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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:29:14 No.14414891 View View Reply Original Report

Let's get some BST calcs on this. I think his SpA is higher than initially reported.

This was caught at lv 47 as a noibat and evolved at 48.

Also
>Hurricane

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:30:11 No.14414935 Report

Quoted By: >>14415040 >>14416858

I'm trying to get past the part where he has Frisk as an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:30:23 No.14414948 Report

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Sorry, i got it wrong, it was caught at 57 and evolved at 58
So it basically has very little EVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:32:37 No.14415040 Report

Quoted By: >>14415908 >>14416899

>>14414935
it allegedly has soundproof as an alternate, but no proof has been provided. i wouldn't be surprised if it was true though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:41:01 No.14415383 Report

Quoted By: >>14417679

>Noivern
>Noi
>Noise

That'd be pretty fucking lame if it didn't have Soundproof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:42:44 No.14415459 Report

Quoted By: >>14415754 >>14415841 >>14415902 >>14416012

>>14414891

>Hurricane

Did they nerf that one too? Also, I hope it gets Nasty Plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:49:41 No.14415754 Report

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>>14415459
What do you mean "too"? Were other moves nerfed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:51:25 No.14415841 Report

Quoted By: >>14416012

>>14415459
Fire Blast, Thunder, and Blizzard all lost 10 base power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:51:35 No.14415849 Report

Quoted By: >>14415923

nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:52:01 No.14415871 Report

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Looks like is spa is 105. its sp.d is also surprisingly high

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:52:49 No.14415902 Report

Quoted By: >>14416012

>>14415459
Yes. Lost 10 base power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:52:56 No.14415908 Report

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>>14415040
That's probably worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:53:17 No.14415923 Report

Quoted By: >>14415973 >>14415997

>>14415849
looks like Naive, +spe -spd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:54:30 No.14415973 Report

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>>14415923
It's actually Sassy, mate. Red = the stat that's increased.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:55:03 No.14415997 Report

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>>14415923
Got it switched buddy, it's Sassy. +SpD, -Spe

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:55:38 No.14416012 Report

Quoted By: >>14416132

>>14415841
>>14415902
>>14415459

>Nerfing the 120 BP attacks

They still have shit accuracy, don't they? Yay, now there's even less reason to ever use them!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:57:30 No.14416102 Report

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Remind me of TWEWY

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:58:10 No.14416132 Report

Quoted By: >>14416813 >>14417519

>>14416012
Statistically, Flamethrower, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt are now superior options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 00:59:20 No.14416177 Report

Quoted By: >>14417110 >>14417199 >>14417226 >>14421257 >>14422007

90/80/80/105/80/115
My estimates, assuming 15 IV, no EV

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:07:49 No.14416510 Report

Quoted By: >>14416588 >>14416978

Please get volt switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:09:29 No.14416588 Report

Quoted By: >>14416723 >>14422058

>>14416510
Why the fuck would it ever get Volt Switch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:12:26 No.14416723 Report

Quoted By: >>14416764

>>14416588
It hasn't stopped pokes from getting out of place moves before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:13:23 No.14416764 Report

Quoted By: >>14416980

>>14416723
That makes absolutely no sense in any way. That's like Magnezone getting Ice Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:14:48 No.14416813 Report

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>>14416132
they've almost always been superior options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:15:56 No.14416858 Report

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>>14414935

>Berries. I need berries. You have berries?
>Choice Scarf? Not a berry. Sad now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:17:11 No.14416899 Report

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>>14415040
Anons who said that were joking. I'm pretty sure the first instance of that claim was in the first BST thread for this guy and some anon said

>yfw his other ability is soundproof

Besides why the fuck would something that uses echolocation be soundproof?

Duster

Duster Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:19:21 No.14416978 Report

Quoted By: >>14417072 >>14417443

>>14416510
That would actually make Frisk pretty good. Come in, check your item, volt out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:19:24 No.14416980 Report

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>>14416764
Or like Slowbro getting Fire Blast! Wait...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:22:01 No.14417072 Report

Quoted By: >>14417381

>>14416978

I hope it gets Trick too. Knowing what the opponent has and swapping it for something bad sounds fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:23:14 No.14417110 Report

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>>14416177
i hope this is accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:25:18 No.14417199 Report

Quoted By: >>14417224 >>14417330

>>14416177
OU? Great speed, ehhh decent bulk, and good special attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:25:49 No.14417224 Report

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>>14417199
uu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:25:54 No.14417226 Report

Quoted By: >>14417283

>>14416177
This is probably closer to reality than what we were expecting prior to this.

Here's the Noivern's previous stats and form, Noibat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:27:24 No.14417283 Report

Quoted By: >>14417379

>>14417226
>gets Hurricane, super fang, Air slash and Shadow claw on one level up
jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:28:31 No.14417330 Report

Quoted By: >>14417397 >>14417422

>>14417199
UU, he's like a tougher Crobat. OU will be dominated by Goodra, Aegislash, Megas, Scizor, etc...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:29:08 No.14417356 Report

Quoted By: >>14418042

Another Logan on vp

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:29:46 No.14417379 Report

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>>14417283
OP anon found him in Victory Road at 57. We suspect he evolves MUCH sooner.

Duster

Duster Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:29:50 No.14417381 Report

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>>14417072
Oh man didn't even think about trick/switcheroo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:30:14 No.14417397 Report

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>>14417330
>Goodra

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:31:04 No.14417422 Report

Quoted By: >>14417444 >>14417483 >>14417512 >>14417514

>>14417330
Goodra's gonna be OU ya think? Has its BST been calc'd yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:31:39 No.14417443 Report

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>>14416978
It'll probably get U-Turn instead. Volt Switch isn't particularly well distributed. Can you imagine if it has Parting Shot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:31:39 No.14417444 Report

Quoted By: >>14417549

>>14417422
Goodra is absolutely going to be OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:32:42 No.14417483 Report

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>>14417422
Goodra is the pseudo legendary of the Kalos region. 600 BST, it's like a dragon version of Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:33:17 No.14417512 Report

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>>14417422
Pseudo legend, so 600.
80-90/90-100/75-85/115-120/135-150/90

It's an absurd special wall. That thing is going to be so good. It also gets Hydration, so it may even end up in ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:33:23 No.14417514 Report

Quoted By: >>14426566

>>14417422
It's bulkier and stronger than Latias. Its hydration will make it a substantially better vaporeon, who will fall from OU considering the weather nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:33:31 No.14417519 Report

Quoted By: >>14418678

>>14416132
Flamethrower is NOT a superior options statistically, since Fire Blast still had that 85 acc to ride off of.

Everything else is only really to be used with Compound Eyes/(nerfed) weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:34:24 No.14417549 Report

Quoted By: >>14427500

>>14417444
80-90/90-100/75-85/115-120/135-150/90

damn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:35:01 No.14417573 Report

Quoted By: >>14417687 >>14417815

>frisk
Jesus, why do so many new pokemon have such shitty abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:37:56 No.14417679 Report

Quoted By: >>14417719

>>14415383

>noise
>not noir

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:38:08 No.14417687 Report

Quoted By: >>14417817

>>14417573
if it gets volt switch frisk would be pretty dope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:38:58 No.14417719 Report

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>>14417679

Why not both?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:40:07 No.14417764 Report

Quoted By: >>14417816 >>14417821 >>14417834 >>14417873

Please tell me there's a way to get Noibat earlier than Victory Road. I hate getting Poke's I want to use so late, and them evolving after a single level up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:41:18 No.14417815 Report

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>>14417573
>Swirlix and Spritzee both get useless double battle abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:41:21 No.14417816 Report

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>>14417764
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:41:22 No.14417817 Report

Quoted By: >>14417875

>>14417687
It'll probably get U-Turn.

I seriously have no idea why you keep saying Volt Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:41:26 No.14417821 Report

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>>14417764

Maybe you could ask on the Wifi thread when it comes out for an egg?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:41:50 No.14417834 Report

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>>14417764
Can't get him before Victory Road. Sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:42:34 No.14417861 Report

Quoted By: >>14417930

80% of 6th Gen Pokemon got shafted with shit abilities or abilities that their stats/typings make useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:42:57 No.14417873 Report

Quoted By: >>14418896

>>14417764
As soon as you start the game, ask for a Noibat on GTS. By the time we get the game there will be a ton of people done with the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:43:11 No.14417875 Report

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>>14417817
It's a specially based dragon with an an assumed large movepool, though Volt Switch might be asking for too much. It'll definitely get U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:43:21 No.14417887 Report

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>STAB Hurricane
Yes. This pleases me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:44:06 No.14417930 Report

Quoted By: >>14418019

>>14417861
Exactly, the pokemon this gen are especially thoughtless. It's like the artists worked on the stats, movepools, and abilities rather than the battle team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:46:15 No.14418019 Report

Quoted By: >>14418095 >>14418104

>>14417930
Except Hydrate on Goodra is great, Pixilate is cool, Frisk is useful but until now it's only been on shitmons, ect.

No one got shafted besides weatherfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:46:44 No.14418042 Report

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>>14417356
PG?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:47:56 No.14418095 Report

Quoted By: >>14418301 >>14418392 >>14418740

>>14418019
Explain how frisk is useful please

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:48:01 No.14418104 Report

Quoted By: >>14418740

>>14418019
>Pixilate is cool

On a Physical Fairy MAYBE, but not on all the Special Fairy's who got it, who get more ultimately just using one of the regular Fairy moves.

>Frisk
>Useful

Confirmed retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:52:46 No.14418301 Report

Quoted By: >>14418448

>>14418095

Maybe knowing what item the Pokemon has will tell you what it most likely knows and it's strategy, giving you a heads up on how to react? That might be useful. Like switching your Physical Wall into a Choice Band guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:52:56 No.14418311 Report

Quoted By: >>14418524 >>14418650

>STAB Hurricane
>good speed

please get nasty plot please get nasty plot please get nasty plot

Also dragon pulse

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:55:33 No.14418392 Report

Quoted By: >>14418448

>>14418095

>Go, Noivern!
>Anon sent out Tyranitar!
>Noivern's Frisk found a Choice Specs!

Now you know to get the fuck out of there before Ice Beam. Yes I have seen specs Tyranitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:57:03 No.14418448 Report

Quoted By:

>>14418301
>>14418392
I guess that's true. Noivern seems a lot more appealing now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 01:58:56 No.14418524 Report

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>>14418311
It gets Dragon Pulse. That's one of the moves we've seen it use (along with Draco Meteor and Boom Blast).

Right now Noivern is relying on two things:

- How good its movepool is
- What its 2nd ability and hidden ability are

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:01:13 No.14418615 Report

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Not very useful but wouldn't it be funny if it got Unerve as an ability? It'd put people off their berries because it would just stare and drool at them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:02:05 No.14418650 Report

Quoted By: >>14418848

>>14418311

Good speed will land non-defensive Pokemon in the UU tier if they're lucky

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:02:36 No.14418678 Report

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>>14417519
Yes it is.
To statistically run it you multiply the payout (damage in this case) by the probability of it happening to get your expected value or the average damage for each turn.

For flamethrower: 95*1=95 (100% accurate)
Fire Blast: 110*.85=93.5 (85% accurate)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:04:08 No.14418740 Report

Quoted By:

>>14418104
>>14418095
>Implying scouting out enemy sashes, bands, specs, and other such items isn't useful?

You goddamn stupid fucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:07:13 No.14418848 Report

Quoted By: >>14418898

>>14418650
>Implying he isn't one of the bulkier mons out there

If his BST is correct, he almost has the same bulk as Hydreigon, who is constantly paraded around as "bulky"

Plus if he really does have base 105 Sp. Atk, he won't be struggling to kill anything, especially with STAB Hurricane, STAB Draco Meteor, and the newest Doubles terror: Boomburst

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:08:24 No.14418896 Report

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>>14417873
whats GTS stand for? i was planning on making a thread on here since ill be working all weekend and wont get very far

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:08:26 No.14418898 Report

Quoted By: >>14418985

>>14418848
>hydreigon
>bulky
who claims this? Mine dies to almost everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:10:54 No.14418985 Report

Quoted By: >>14419432

>>14418898
A surprising amount of people. The same people that claim Eelektross and Mence are bulky, when IIRC, Noivern and Hydreigon outclass both of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 02:23:30 No.14419432 Report

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>>14418985
Eelektross is pretty bulky if properly invested. Coil + Drain Punch with no weaknesses does wonders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 03:17:22 No.14421257 Report

Quoted By:

>>14416177
>550
Try 540.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 03:41:36 No.14422007 Report

Quoted By:

>>14416177
Improvement from last estimates
Lost 15 speed but gained it back in Sp Att
Would be completely fine with this spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 03:43:19 No.14422058 Report

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>>14416588
If we're talking about moves it's not going to get I'd rather see it get Quiver Dance, which is honestly more believable than Volt Switch. Chances are it's already getting U-turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:04:00 No.14425515 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:51:40 No.14426566 Report

Quoted By: >>14426599

>>14417514
>It's bulkier and stronger than Latias. Its hydration will make it a substantially better vaporeon, who will fall from OU considering the weather nerf.
wait, what happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:53:00 No.14426599 Report

Quoted By: >>14426672 >>14426711

>>14426566
weather "only" last 5 turns now so the babies are crying that refuelling it every 5 turns kills their epic strategy because it lowers their damage per turn ratio

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:55:44 No.14426672 Report

Quoted By: >>14426700 >>14426732 >>14426838 >>14426879 >>14426923 >>14427097

>>14426599
the fuck?
So the auto weather abilities only last 5 turns?
Drought isn't permanent?
fuck that
what's even the point of the ability now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:56:59 No.14426700 Report

Quoted By: >>14426899

>>14426672
So you don't have to waste a moveslot on Rain Dance/Sunny Day, I guess?
But at least we'll never see weather in OU again.

I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW, THE RAIN IS GONE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:57:18 No.14426711 Report

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>>14426599
I wonder if Kyogre and Groudon get new abilities to compensate for their loss

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 06:57:50 No.14426732 Report

Quoted By: >>14426830 >>14426872 >>14426899

>>14426672
>what's even the point of the ability now?
Free 5 turns of weather perhaps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:01:53 No.14426830 Report

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>>14426732
Damp Rock and Heat Rock and the like reportedly work with them so weather teams might still be viable, it just means the entire fucking metagame won't revolve around muh weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:02:14 No.14426838 Report

Quoted By: >>14426899

>>14426672
Saves a turn and a moveslot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:03:56 No.14426872 Report

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>>14426732
Sand still provides bulk to t-tar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:04:11 No.14426879 Report

Quoted By: >>14426899

>>14426672
Rocks extend weather, even on weather inducers.

Turns 5 turns to 10. It's just that infinite weather needed to die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:05:18 No.14426899 Report

Quoted By: >>14426963 >>14427151

>>14426700
>>14426732
>>14426838
>>14426879
It seems like this gen is mostly batle mechanic changes, and tbh, I really don't like any of them.
meh.
Infinite weather is shit, I can give yoyu that, but make the abilities 10 turns or something, fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:05:45 No.14426913 Report

Quoted By: >>14426988 >>14427183

We need to get a campaign going leakers who have the games already start distributing some female Noibats so everybody can have this great Pokemon early on. Fuck Victory Road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:06:17 No.14426923 Report

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>>14426672
still better than sunny day, but not as OP. i like it imo, it increases the need of a more balanced game, and I even have a sun team

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:07:53 No.14426963 Report

Quoted By:

>>14426899
10 turns feels like infinite weather.

So if you REALLY want that, you'll make the trade-off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:08:56 No.14426988 Report

Quoted By: >>14427015

>>14426913
Agreed, breed some Noibats and trade them to folks online. GF is fucking retarded for putting a non-pseudo so damn late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:10:02 No.14427015 Report

Quoted By: >>14427049

>>14426988
A non-pseudo that's been so prominent in promotional stuff and such an early reveal no less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:11:14 No.14427049 Report

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>>14427015
This shit just has me scratching my head. If you want this thing to become popular, make it available fairly early. It's not overpowered by any stretch of the imagination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:13:00 No.14427097 Report

Quoted By: >>14427887

>>14426672
>muh metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:15:36 No.14427151 Report

Quoted By: >>14427887

>>14426899
This. I wouldn't mind the changes if they'd fixed the things that were actually broken. I'll give them permaweather, but what about Stealth Rock, and Ice and Bug type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:16:39 No.14427183 Report

Quoted By: >>14427376

>>14426913
You can just trade for it on the GTS. You don't have to have seen the Pokemon anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:20:02 No.14427252 Report

Quoted By: >>14427887

Anyone have Pyroar's stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:21:19 No.14427291 Report

Quoted By: >>14427330

>Goodra looks like complete shit
>Noivern looks baller as hell
>Goodra is the pseudo
> noivern gets a shit ability
Fuck you gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:23:08 No.14427330 Report

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>>14427291
>insulting goodra
GET RIGHT THE FUCK OUT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:25:27 No.14427376 Report

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>>14427183
>You don't have to have seen the Pokemon anymore.
If they fixed nothing else I would call this gen a success

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:28:09 No.14427430 Report

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Are we certain that Noibat isn't available until Victory Road?
It seems like the sort of mon that would appear early-game with a 1% appearance rate in some difficult-to-access room of some Zubat-filled cave with nothing but a shitty item in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:31:23 No.14427500 Report

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>>14417549
I just wish its defense stat was just 5-10 points higher

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:48:50 No.14427887 Report

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>>14427097
To be honest with you, I don't even play the meta game really, because I always lose.

>>14427151
>Ice and Bug type?
DINGDINGDING WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS
That's the ROOT of my fucking complaining; "fixes" for things that weren't priorityies.
>new type to take dragon down a notch
>not just more dragon killing moves, pokemon, abilities, and wider distribution of ice moves
>not buffing ice
meh
meh
meh

I wish I could call Masuda and cuss him out or something, Ice getting shafted AGAIN really pisses me the fuck off.
>>14427252
no.
keep waiting.
Between you and I it'll probably be a special leaning Luxray.

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