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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:17:38 No.14427203 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14427289 >>14427510 >>14428099

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:19:22 No.14427236 Report

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Calm down, eh.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:19:26 No.14427240 Report

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:21:18 No.14427289 Report

Quoted By: >>14427391 >>14427461

>>14427203
Thats a good thing ya idgit.
The shittier megas will be the good ones. Obviously shit like mega blaziken are getting booted to ubers, but stuff like mega mawile might get to have fun powerhousing in the normal tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:26:08 No.14427391 Report

Quoted By: >>14427514

>>14427289
You're seriously underestimating GF's talent for fucking up.

Most people expect godly defensive stats even with only 100+ BST like 50/130/110. The stats are barely going to break 100 because they're going to be retards and dump 50 points in special attack. I'm calling it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:29:35 No.14427461 Report

Quoted By: >>14427561 >>14427940

>>14427289
>implying everyonje plays by smogon rules
>implying smogon isn't going to hold a death grip on broken as shit megas because it's what the mods use to win

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:31:51 No.14427510 Report

Quoted By: >>14427535 >>14427739

>>14427203
>this nigga

Huge Power-boosted 85 base attack with + nature, max EVs/IVs is fucking 590, equivalent to about 220 base attack; none of the Megas come close to this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:32:08 No.14427514 Report

Quoted By: >>14427574 >>14427638 >>14429493

>>14427391
Mega Gengar confirmed for 65/60/80/170/95/130
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-xy-data-collection.3489182/

130 Speed, 170 SPAtk (wtf?? Fucking base-Reshiram had 150 SPAtk), Shadow Tag

>Making Pokemon more balanced they said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:32:56 No.14427535 Report

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>>14427510
er, I meant 590 attack at level 100, 220 base

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:33:54 No.14427561 Report

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>>14427461
This.

Fuck Smogons shitty rules. Nobody gives a flying fuck unless they are a tryhard MLG fag anyway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:34:36 No.14427574 Report

Quoted By: >>14427693

>>14427514
That's what I'm saying. They're doing absurd shit like that to already OU's and barely giving a piddly fuck feather to the ones that needed boosting.

Yes, I mad. Fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:37:30 No.14427638 Report

Quoted By: >>14427691

>>14427514
Uh. Just so you know the 170spatk is not the important part here, as he'll end up doing LESS damage than a LO gengar. The important factors are the huge speed buff and SHADOW TAG.

So many bads in this bread ;(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:39:20 No.14427691 Report

Quoted By: >>14427737

>>14427638
you have no life orb recoil and can't be tricked/stolen/knocked of your item

if you'd do the same damage and no other changes i'd stll be an upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:39:24 No.14427693 Report

Quoted By: >>14427814 >>14428092

>>14427574
So stop playing with stupid fucking smogon tiers that aren't enforced in any way, shape, or form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:39:52 No.14427703 Report

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ps most people in that thread are obvious morons who can barely play the game. They've come from other forums seeking leaks, read through the thread more and you'll see. But hey, you're obviously lurking smogon so you should know that already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:41:08 No.14427729 Report

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Megas aren't all that. Of the ones revealed I think only 2-3 exceed the damage of their LO variants:

Mega Lucario, Mega Charizard X, Mega Blaziken.

Any other megas will have to get REALLY good abilities to top the damage of Life Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:41:23 No.14427737 Report

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>>14427691
I never said it wasn't an improvement? You're putting too much emphasis on the spatk boost.. When in reality nothing changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:41:28 No.14427739 Report

Quoted By: >>14427797

>>14427510
>what is mega lucario
Which outspeeds and outdamages Mawile even with 85 Atk Huge Power (and it'll be less than that).

Holy fuck, even Mega fairies are beyond shitty. Gardevoir can't even break 100 Speed. Megamawile's probably getting a shitty defensive spread like 50/105/105, and why use that instead of Heatran or Rotom-W

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:44:10 No.14427797 Report

Quoted By: >>14427839

>>14427739
When Heatran and Scizor found out about Megardevoir's stats, they giggled like little school girls.

I can just imagine those two steel faggots giggling at their computers. Giggling at the stats and dress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:44:53 No.14427814 Report

Quoted By: >>14427866 >>14427905

>>14427693
So then you'll just be fighting ubers? Cool.
Do people like you even understand what a tier system is for?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:46:02 No.14427839 Report

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>>14427797
The very wide and thick dress.

Guess that's why they call her "Mega" Gardevoir...!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:47:40 No.14427866 Report

Quoted By: >>14427879

>>14427814
>Implying every Karenfag uses ubers
Except that doesn't happen unless you run into some retarded 13 year old who doesn't use smogon anyway.

Maybe one or two, MAYBE. But an entire team? Yeah no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:48:19 No.14427879 Report

Quoted By: >>14427908

>>14427866
>he really thinks children doesn't play this game
kek top

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:49:08 No.14427895 Report

Quoted By: >>14427940 >>14428008 >>14428186

So far, Mega-Gengar is gonna be one of the most detrimental to the meta

>130 Speed
>Shadow Tag

This means that nothing can Rapid Spin ever, including Gengar's eternal archnemesis Starmie.

No Rapid spin means rock weak setup sweeper lile DNite, Volcarona, Cloyster, Salamence etc (e.g. good pokemon with workable flaw) become obselete. Stall team will also become obselete without Rapid spin because SR hurts switching so much - so there goes an entire playstyle

I hope people just realize that Shadow Tag should just be banned entirely, it is detrimental to an ideal metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:49:16 No.14427905 Report

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>>14427814
Nobody on /vp/ does, as far as I can tell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:49:24 No.14427908 Report

Quoted By: >>14428033

>>14427879
>Implying children follow smogon
You're an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:50:52 No.14427940 Report

Quoted By: >>14428067

>>14427895
see >>14427461
which is exactly why they never suspected autoweather in gen v

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:55:10 No.14428008 Report

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>>14427895
mega gengar itself is just going to be banned. Theres absolutely no way OU could handle that thing anyway, even without shadow tag.
Same goes for mega lucario and blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:57:01 No.14428033 Report

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>>14427908
What? He didn't imply that. The other guy was talking about children not following smogon but still using ubers because they're children.

Also, using whatever pokemon you want is fine, you can do that. It's just that naturally people will tend to use the more powerful pokemon because they'd like to win, and you'd end up with similar pokemon to the OU category even if smogon wasn't being considered. That's just what happens when you want to be competitive, so blame Gamefreak for terrible balance.
And that's fine if you want to say that winning isn't all you care about, but don't complain if you lose to better pokemon for the majority of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:58:07 No.14428046 Report

Quoted By: >>14428091 >>14428128

I can't wait for the addition of the Uber2 tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:59:21 No.14428067 Report

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>>14427940
Autoweather is a complex thing though.
having a couple broken as fuck pokemon that destroy absolutely everything in OU isn't?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 07:59:42 No.14428073 Report

Quoted By: >>14428111 >>14428310

>mfw I want to get back into Pokemon again, haven't played since diamond an pearl
>decide to dip down to /vp/ to collect hype for x and y
>confused as fuck

what the fuck does mega mean? Does every old Pokemon get one? Is it like a fourth evolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:00:36 No.14428091 Report

Quoted By: >>14428141

>>14428046
List of smogon tiers in X/Y
>Mega-Uber (only members are Mewtwo X and Mewtwo Y)
>Uber
>Mega-OU
>OU (no megas)
>UU
>RU
>NU
>PU
>Shit (+200 evolved mons)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:00:40 No.14428092 Report

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>>14427693
He can't. None of us can.

Do you know what the tires are even called? They stand for Over Used, Under Used, ect. Not playing with smogen rules changes nothing about how much a pokemon is used due to BSTs, typing, moves and other factors. Saying OU, NU, Ubers are just shorter then typing "really really strong" "completely useless and worthless in every way" "grossly overpowered."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:01:18 No.14428099 Report

Quoted By: >>14428112

>>14427203
>GF
>Stimulating "balance"
Why does everything think GF honestly cares about perfect balance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:02:12 No.14428111 Report

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>>14428073
Mega = Powered up form

It's like Goku going super saiyan.

And welcome back, anon. There are 225 new pokemon waiting to meet you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:02:13 No.14428112 Report

Quoted By: >>14428127 >>14428148

>>14428099
Because they literally said MUH BALANCE in the interviews, idiot. Most of us would rather that they never tried, at least then they won't fuck up as hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:03:19 No.14428127 Report

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>>14428112
Link to these interviews?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:03:20 No.14428128 Report

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>>14428046
Basically. Mega and Mega Ubers will come into existence, and what exists as OU will slip into BL and UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:04:14 No.14428141 Report

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>>14428091
you for got LC

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:04:32 No.14428148 Report

Quoted By: >>14428393

>>14428112
Correction, they said "popularity, appearance, and game balance."
In that order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:06:26 No.14428186 Report

Quoted By: >>14428200 >>14428235

>>14427895
What if Starmie magically gets Refrigerate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:07:40 No.14428200 Report

Quoted By: >>14428211

>>14428186
Starmie's not Ice-type, silly. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:08:23 No.14428211 Report

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>>14428200
And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:09:43 No.14428235 Report

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>>14428186
And it'll still get trapped. And raped by 170 SpAtk Super Effective Shadow ball

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:11:58 No.14428280 Report

Quoted By: >>14428333 >>14428375 >>14428401

At least mega gengar is good unlike the other shitpile megas we've seen.

Seriously, megasaur, megachomp and megadactyl are so bad it hurts my brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:13:35 No.14428310 Report

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>>14428073
How about you visit Serebii or Bulbapedia, or even the official Pokémon site, m8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:14:50 No.14428333 Report

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>>14428280
Too bad they'll be the only OU megas :^)

Megamawile will be BL at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:17:33 No.14428375 Report

Quoted By: >>14428684

>>14428280
>Megadactyl
Oh my god, he might as well not even mega evolve. What a sad fucking bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:18:19 No.14428393 Report

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>>14428148
then why the fuck mention game balance at all. they know they suck at it, they might as well not even tried. just like last gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:18:51 No.14428401 Report

Quoted By: >>14428446

>>14428280
What's up with its limb being flat? Is it like Diglett now that it requires land surface?

Also, Megas in general are retarded idea. It's just GF laziness of making a decent art/concept of new pokemon, so they're banking on the popularity of old pokemon instead.

Mega forms are given literally just based on popularity, hence mega lucario, blaziken, charizard, mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:22:16 No.14428446 Report

Quoted By: >>14428617

>>14428401
If that were true, we'd have a mega-dunsparce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:22:31 No.14428452 Report

Quoted By: >>14428584

Not everything needs to be OU. OU is shit these days anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:29:17 No.14428584 Report

Quoted By: >>14428635

>>14428452
I agree, Gen V UU is like the ideal metagame for every smogonfag who bitches about weather

>No Weather spam
>Diverse playstyle
>Diverse pokemon selection

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:30:37 No.14428617 Report

Quoted By:

>>14428446
MAYBE WE DO!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:31:30 No.14428635 Report

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>>14428584
>implying it wasn't just Chandelure and Heracross: The Metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 08:33:40 No.14428684 Report

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>>14428375
What's wrong with Megadactyl?

Doesn't he get 130 atk and tough claws?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 09:09:04 No.14429231 Report

Quoted By: >>14429276

>I have seen 3 mega stats I can predict the new MUH PATTERN
toppest of kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 09:12:33 No.14429271 Report

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>gamefreak
>caring about some shitty fan tiers

Maybe you'll understand when you start playing VGC like real men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 09:12:48 No.14429276 Report

Quoted By: >>14429313

>>14429231
>implying that wasn't ALL the mega stats
>implying mawile won't be a shitty 480 with nodefense
b-but muh waifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 09:15:38 No.14429313 Report

Quoted By: >>14429386

>>14429276
>dat geen text failure.

You are actually an autist unironically spouting "muh ...." congrat, tard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 09:20:52 No.14429386 Report

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>>14429313
>nitpicking greentext use isn't being a full-on autist
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 09:29:08 No.14429493 Report

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>>14427514
i hope that shit is banned. For life's sake

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