X/Y: These Pokémon make up for the smallest amount of new Pokémon in a generation, with only 69 Pokémon available from launch.>69 pokemon
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>>14432082 Nice blog post, OP.
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99.9% of the casual fanbase and most of /vp/ is upset about this besides the GF defense force so no, you arent alone
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>>14432106 EPIC BUZZWORD NIGA
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Maybe, just maybe it's because they've been translating the game into full 3D instead of reusing sprites? Also thats not counting Mega Evolutions which is fucking stupid because Mega Evolutions will freshen the game up more than having another 20 box cloggers ever would. There are over 700 mons now OP, fucking find some you like and catch them without whining about how you want somethign new and shiny that doesn't add anything of value to the game.
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>>14432082 Oh look it's this thread again.
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>>14432082 You forgot megas
>b-b-but they don't count yes they do you autist
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>>14432082 youre a little late with that, dont you think?
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>>14432168 IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE FUCKING EXCUSE IS NIGGGA I DONT NEED TO HAVE A REASON TO NOT LIKE SOMETHIN THIS ISNT CORPORATE ROUND TABLE
ITS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT CATCHING NEW POKEMON ITS PART OF THE MOTHAFUCKING CATCH PHRASE
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>>14432168 >reusing sprites Anonymous
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Already raged about it days ago. I'm cool with it now.
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Why is everybody so upset about this? Older pokémon are great too, and it's a lot nicer to see them bring all the old generations together rather than just replacing them with copies of old ones, like how Timburr was just a copy of machop.
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>>14432168 >want somethign new and shiny that doesn't add anything of value to the game. Apparently adding new Pokemon to a game doesn't add anything of value. "Let's just stop at this generation but keep the series going for another 10 years." Yeah, no.
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>>14432204 STUPID BITCH IF A POKEMON HAS THE SAME FUCKING NAME OR 92% OF THE SAME NAME NOT COUNTING NICKNAMES DONT TRY TO PLAY ME BUSTA THEN ITS THE SAME FUCKING POKEMON WITH A DIFFERENT FORM
IF A POKEMON EVOLVES OR IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEN IT HAS A NEW NAME IN THE DEX AND GENERALLY LOOKS DIFFERENT WITH DIFFERENT MOVES ECT CETERA FEEL ME NIGA
THIS IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS BITCH
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>>14432269 >King of Reddit Your post makes perfect sense
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>I hate newer designs! The original Gen 1 was best >What the fuck? Only 69 new designs? Why are the rehashing Gen 1 so much?
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>>14432283 NICE COPOUT RESPONSE NIGGA
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>Sure, they're trying to slightly go back to their roots in the anime
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>>14432305 NIGGA YOU ARE IMPLYING WITH YOUR MONEY TEXT THAT THIS ORIGINAL POSTER SUPPORTED SAID PERSPECTIVE THAT GEN 1 WAS THE BEST
THATS PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH NIGGA THAT SHIT IS GAY
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>>14432246 It really doesn't. If Game Freak spent more time balancing out the game then that would be just as good if not better than adding new mons since you'd be able to use all the ones that are in the dumpster right now, like Beedrill. The longevity of Pokemon doesn't come from single player, which is where new mons are relevant, it comes from battling against people online or in person and the vast majority of pokemon used there are from previous gens with maybe the latest pseudo plus 3 or 4 others that happen to have good enough stats to be relevant.
If you want to whine about needing more fodder to fill out your dex, whatever, but it's not like Pidgey or Ratatta 2.0 are going to make the game any more fun to play once you catch them and leave them to rot in your box.
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>>14432117 I'm not. I've actually been wanting this to happen.
....di-did you get that? I said, I've wanted this to happen. Why, you might ask? Because after 600+ so pokemon, there comes a time when creative block will occur. I just want them to sit back now, work on the game itself and take their time designing pokemon. Not churning out shit.
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Gaffy (X) 4682 - 9352 - 4250
>>14432305 You dumbfuck. The lowest they introduced was 100 and highest 156, meet in the middle that's 128. That's 10 less than two times this generation is introducing. Nothing about Gen 1 being the best was or is being implied.
>>14432359 This OG will tell you how it is.
Anonymous
>>14432082 Quality not quantity, anon.
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Gen 2 had ten new pokemon.
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>>14432390 I'M NOT AVATAR FAGGING THATS ACTUALLY WHAT I LOOK LIKE I POSTED IT 3 TIMES BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT MIGHT PLEASE YOUR EYES
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>>14432215 The phrase was "Gotta catch em all" but that was back in 96 when there were only 150. Now there are over 600 pokemon for you to choose from. Also they just added 70 or so more. I don't understand y u bein a busta.
Anonymous
>>14432371 They didn't spent time balancing out the game considering we got like 30 300bst fairies, another useless early bug/flying, another useless slow defensive ice type, a fucking physical dark/psychic type and a bunch of useless single and double stagers.
This gen is utter box fodder
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>>14432229 OP just found out about it, so he needs to clutter the board with more threads about it obviously.
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....... But there's also meant to be 20 older pokemon that have indiscovered evos.
>>14432394 Also this. Thank you for spreading the message, anon.
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I've always felt there is a big jump in new Pokemon every 2 gens.
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>>14432394 That's another part of the problem though. The designs these gen are the worst of the six.
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LISTEN ITS GREAT THEY GOT THE 3D ALL THAT GOOD SHIT BALANCING THE GAME AND WHAT NOT NOT LIKE ANYONE WOULD KNOW SINCE THEY HAVENT PLAYED IT BUT WHATEVER LOL
Anonymous
>>14432377 >creative block Do you ACTUALLY think they have creative block? Like, not only do you think they are creative, but that they are creative enough to have creative block? You are so fucking stupid. So goddamn fucking stupid.
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>>14432371 Games should be fun and playable on their own. Interactions with others should be a bonus regardless if it's a big bonus in the case of certain games.
>>14432394 But the new pokemon aren't good quality, and I'm not anon at the moment.
>>14432431 A total of 69 wasn't mainstream until recently, and I don't F5 /vp/ and 2chan while fapping every 5 seconds.
Anonymous
Has anyone tried evolving old Pokemon yet? Hell even Gen V?
Anonymous
>>14432418 physical dark/psychic
wait who?
>>14432454 I think they're better than Gen 4 and most of Gen 3 but this is all a matter of opinion.
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>>14432393 You don't know how to read don't you?
He was posting about how everyone fucking complains about new pokemon not being as good as the first ones, and when they get more of gen 1 than new pokemons everyone complains too.
It's people being absolutely retarded and making no sense.
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>>14432471 Malimar is physically based
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>>14432454 >this gen's designs are worse than gen V hahahahahaha
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>>14432471 Worst gen is 2. For every good pokemon you had 9 overinflated balloons.
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>>14432393 Oh another trip/namefag. Nigga bitch get this through your thick fucking skull. 70 pokemon! 70! It may not be 150! It may not be a thousand throw away pikaclones, pidgey clones, rattata clones, legendaries, and pixie legendaries but god damnit, it's still 70...oh on top of basically updating every other aspect of the game like they haven't since 1998.
Anonymous
>>14432454 Opinion. However, look at all the new things added BESIDES just new Pokemon.
Anonymous
>>14432465 If you don't think they are creative why do you even play fucking pokemon.
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>>14432481 >Nothing about Gen 1 being the best was or is being implied I believe it's you that doesn't know how to read.
Anonymous
They should have just added 25 legendary pokemons instead of just 3.
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>>14432470 There is literally no room left in the pokedex except for maybe event legendaries.
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>>14432082 I'm not annoyed. Even though it has the smallest amount of new pokemon, it has so many pokemon from the older games that I'm more than satisfied.
In fact, I'm
hyped .
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>>14432508 THATS A FRIEND CODE NIGGA SO IF YOU PLAY POKEMON YOU CAN ADD HIM AND PLAY POKEMON
THIS IS A POKEMON BOARD THE ONLY THING THATS STUPID AND OR GAY IS JUST PLAIN TRIPFAGGING AND ALSO AVATAR FAGGING
Anonymous
>>14432418 Actually I kind of agree. This all makes me even more content they only did 70 this gen. I'm afraid if they felt committed to fill everyones' arbitrary quota, we'd have just a ton of throw away shit mons that would just stand as a blight forever etched in our pokedexes for generations to come.
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>>14432546 You forgot to post an avatar, dear.
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>>14432524 You mean a bunch of gimmicks that they'll probably work out of the game by next gen just like the VS seeker, dream launcher and contests.
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>>14432508 It's called 3DS thread, fucking lurk moar until you find one and then learn to add people that feel sorry enough for your ass to add you.
Anonymous
>>14432503 Yeah gen 2 had some pretty shit designs and probably the most useless Pokemon of all time
>Stantler >Snubbull looking like a fucking sock puppet >Delibird a useless gimmickmon >Gligar and Sneasel completely useless til Gen 4 >Sunkern >Remoraid and Octillery being shit for so damn long. So much god damn filler. Gen V was supposed to be the reboot of the franchise and Gen VI can't help but have a similar feeling with all the damn filler.
But hey maybe Pumkaboo will get a useful evo in the next two gens.
Anonymous
>>14432556 You mean like a keychain pokemon and another bug/flying butterfly? Thank god gen 6 didn't give us such useless box fodder.
Anonymous
>>14432581 Fucking delibird wishes he was a gimmickmon. Even chatot is more useful than him.
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>>14432578 >that post You strike me as someone under the age of 18.
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>>14432587 Every gen added another useless bug/flying
Literally every generation. It's almost a tradition now, one I wish they'd break.
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>>14432455 My nigga, what kind of bitch made fan stands by for years lapping up 100 or so, mostly redundant, pokemon each generation without a word of improving the other aspects of the game and then bitches and moans when they take a step back and evaluate what they really need to focus on now?
Besides gangstalicious is a way better rapper. Word.
Anonymous
>>14432587 >>14432625 at least bug types are getting some more neat moves and Vivilions gimmick is really great.
Anonymous
>>14432566 Ya got me. Also why the fuck would they not include your first pokemon following you like in HG/SS? What the fuck GF?
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>>14432606 Delibird's the worst kind of gimmickmon, since his gimmick is just having ONE MOVE normally. Not even a GOOD move.
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>>14432566 and a challenge mode.
Anonymous
>>14432671 HG/SS was supposedly developed around the same time as BW and they simply chose not to reuse those assets.
Also, following Pokemon was generic as fuck and played out by the time you caught enough mons to realise it just cycles through a bunch of random shit.
Anonymous
>>14432578 gaffy(x)
completely neccessary riiiiiight.
neccessary to keep it on riiiiiight. in a thread that isn't about exchanging lonely neet codes riiiiight?
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Anonymous
>>14432671 Following pokemon is the worst gimmick ever. It slowed down the game so much because of all the extra shit.
Anonymous
>implying no X/Y esequels summer 2k14 with 30-40 new pokes
Anonymous
>>14432648 Infestion and powder are really shit.
Powder is overly situational as hell
And a bug type fire spin is just bad
Anonymous
Generation 5 was great. I loved playing a game where the only Pokemon available in the main game were the new ones. In that sense, G5 captured the spirit of G1 more than any other game by having all the Pokemon in the main game be new ones.
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>>14432587 That's pretty much what I said. There are some great ones but things like keychain mon just make me feel like; had they continued contriving pokemon to meet a quota, it'd be more of this quality. Thank mew they didn't. Keychainmon is almost too much as it is.
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>>14432700 >Not liking your Onix splashing around in the water >Or that your Gardevoir is nibbling at your feet >Or that your Wailord suddenly hugged you. Gaffy (X) 4682 - 9352 - 4250
>>14432648 It's apparently just different colors. That doesn't make up for anything, it's just a careless option sidequest you give yourself (finding all the different kinds of Vivillons by spending countless hours bugging people from different parts of the world and then giving up and crying when you can't get one or two of them).
>>14432704 Right. I ain't scared to be non-anonymous in a debatable-topic thread unlike someone. Plus aint nobody got time for backspacing.
>>14432707 Maybe so, but it gives dat Pokemon Yellow feel.
Anonymous
>>14432578 >lurk moar Hello did you know that you live in the year 2013 and that this isn't /b/
Anonymous
>>14432737 Bug types have been getting fucked in the ass since Gen 1, just take your Bug Type Fire Spin and keep a stiff upper lip.
Anonymous
>>14432648 You know how it feels to have bug as your favorite type and be shit on for almost 20 years by GF, have gen 5 actually give you hope that GF would finally start giving bug types something cool, and then have all that hope shat on because the only gen 6 bug is a fucking shitty gimmick early game butterfly?
Seriously.
Anonymous
>>14432707 >slowed down How?
I'll never understand why people would take an actual disliking toward such a feature. I mean I can live without but to actively dislike it.....do you hate that gen 2 is popular, THAT much?
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>>14432578 This isn't the 3DS thread though.
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im a little annoyed, but im just banking on dlc/more pokes in z
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>>14432817 HGSS isn't gen 2
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>>14432781 >doesn't make up for anything. Didn't say it does, just that it's the best butterfree we've had.
>pointless sidequest, not having fun bugging people all over the world. where's your whimsical spirit
Anonymous
>>14432738 Typical smogonfaggotry. Pokemon X&Y is about moving to 3d. Your binary mind can't hold all that awesomeness.
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>>14432817 >do you hate that gen 2 is popular, THAT much? Nice projecting.
I hate that the feature is so god damn soulless and empty. I've said it a million times before but it's just far too generic to feel like I'm actually bonding with anything. Also would love if that damn thing was at least optional or let me choose which one of my pokemon would be out of their balls instead of it always being the lead.
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>>14432788 It's like when they made Gen 5 the guy who watched over the team was asleep, and everyone else was like "Shit boss isn't watching MAKE BUGS NOT SUCK" and that's how we got Volcarona and Leavanny and Scolipede and shit.
And then XY is business as usual, or even punishment because they dishonored him by going against his wishes.
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>>14432566 >Contests How I much i missed these things. They were so much fun and gave Pokemon that weren't good competitive their own field to excel, whether they were fully-evolved or not. Alas, the fun didn't last long as gen IV ruined them and Gen V completely removed them and put in musicals instead. They had so much potential.
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>>14432835 No but that doesn't stop people from hating that it's related to Gen 2.
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>>14432783 Yes and yes.
>>14432788 >>14432804 I'm not even a huge fan of bug type but I feel'd.
>>14432818 Your right, it's not, it's my thread and my choice to have a name. So suck a wailord cock.
>>14432834 Baking on dlc/more pokemon in the third game hasn't worked before and it won't work this time around either sadly.
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>>14432849 >he mentioned OU/UU >HE'S JUST LE STUPID SMOGONFAG All that he's said is true. Besides, the 3D in XY is ass. Just like everything else.
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>>14432854 >Also would love if that damn thing was at least optional or let me choose which one of my pokemon would be out of their balls instead of it always being the lead Seems like a good reason to keep a feature. I mean unlike outright dumping it altogether.
>I've said it a million times before but it's just far too generic to feel like I'm actually bonding with anything. First off, I wouldn't know about that. Secondly, we have Poke Amie now. That feature would work perfectly to solve this problem. Thirdly, the feature had no negative repercussions. There is nothing we give up or lose out on, or pay for by having that feature. The only arguments I ever hear are that it isn't perfect or it could be better. Hey we've had 5 generations of generic overworld blobs representing surfing and flying pokemon but I've never thought...hey they should just not have anything there altogether.
Anonymous
>>14432738 this touches on my problem, the squeezed middle of the Pokemon fanbase who just want a new Pokemon game, not:
>smogon shit that tries to make Pokemon "competitive" because it's not interesting to casual players >tryhard redesigns of old Pokemon that rape your childhood and appeal to mouthbreathing retards The 3D is nice and all but the game suffers compared to generation five when it comes to an authentic Pokemon experience. V is far purer, VI tries far too hard and by comparison fails at the basics.
Anonymous
>>14432862 No they didn't. Not when you've played the vastly superior Pokeathlon.
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>>14432979 Oh cool so a smogonfag and a graphicsfag.
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>>14432804 I know how you feel as a poison type fan. Fuck you dark type.
Anonymous
>>14433012 I loved gen V but will love gen Vl more. Please tell me what gen Vl has done to fail these 'Basics' of which you speak of?
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>>14432979 I WOULD DISAGREE FROM WHAT I CAN TELL FROM LEAKED SCREENSHOTS THE 3D IS FANTASTIC AND IS AS GOOD AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY HOPE FOR THE ONLY PART THAT STANDS OUT AS GREAT TO ME IN THIS GAME
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>>14433092 CATCHING POKEMON OBVIOUSLY LOL
"COLLECT EM ALL"
WELL YEAH I CAN STILL COLLECT THEM ALL BUT SINCE I ALREADY COLLECTED THEM ALL IN BLACK 2 IT STANDS TO REASON I WANT TO COLLECT ALL THE NEW POKEMON AND WOULD BE DISTRAUGHT IF THIS WAS A SHORT ADVENTURE.
FIN.
NIGGA.
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>>14433101 Eh, sometimes the models looks great, other times, they look fucking horrible.
Delphox as a perfect example. The model makes it look like a tent.
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>>14433012 I'll have to disagree. We've had 5 generations of the basics. And I know it's what the creators were aiming for and some of the fans have bought into it, but I don't get any particular feeling from 5 that makes me feel like I'm playing pokemon again for the first time or anything like that. Not to bash 5, it's easily the best so far (sans x and y, couldn't give an opinion yet). I think it's about time GF pays more attention to fine tuning. They've added a lot gradually through the years. I'm glad they've gone over it and asked themselves how to make it work better. I.E. Super Training. I'm not a big fan of megas and don't think that really, truly adds anything to the game tho. That said, I've come to be ok with it being there. It just seemed kinda unnecessary to me.
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I for one doesn't mind. And I find it pretty ironic.
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>>14432082 Im not annoyed or whatever. Every pokemon from previous generations in 3d is more than enough for me. Quality over quantity.
Anonymous
>>14433185 Maybe there are different people with different opinions?
Maybe different people post on this board?
I sure as hell never bitched about too many pokemon and I never saw anyone on this board who did.
Anonymous
>>14433025 >pokeathlon >superior to contests Come on, seriously?
Gaffy (X) 4682 - 9352 - 4250
>>14433185 The people that whine about too many Pokemon are genwunners that don't play it anymore and/or hate most generation designs after that which are different people than the people complaining about there being less pokemon introduced this generation. You didn't deserve this explanation since it should've been obvious but oh well.
>>14433222 This.
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>>14433246 maybe there are different people who don't give a shit that there are 70 new pokemon. Maybe there are people who don't give a shit that your expectations were let down. Maybe there are people who'd rather game freak not make 60 more filler shit pokemon that they can't take back just so that your entitlement is satiated.
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>>14432849 I don't care about 3D. I just want GOOD Pokemon. Aegislash is one of the few that will be relevant outside of the main game filled with A/I who barely have enough mental function to take part in the special olympics. Also, why the fuck are Pokemon like Pyroar and Heliolisk? They should just be pures instead of damning them with a weakness against Fighting Types. Poison types still suck shit because their only "buff" is being strong against Fairies, who have the lowest representation out of all types.
Anonymous
>>14433321 This entire gen is already mostly filler. With 30 more pokemon, we would have had an actual chance at getting something not shit.
Anonymous
>>14433338 >Poison types still suck shit because their only "buff" is being strong against Fairies A-a-nd grass st-stu-stupid
Anonymous
>>14432082 I'm annoyed, sure. Annoyed I have to read threads like this from whining faggots like you when we're about to get a new pokemon game/generation.
get hyped or get the fuck out
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>>14433371 Being strong against grass isn't saying much considering every other type is.
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>>14433321 see
>>14433360 >>14433391 Been hyped, anon...
Been hyped.
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>>14432204 >yes they do you autist no, they don´t since they aren´t permenat..Faggot
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>>14433338 bahhhh. Why are fish water type pokemanz. Why aren't they ghost/dark with wonder guard, 150 all around bsts.
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>>14432390 >Avatars are against the rules No they aren´t Faggot..
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>>14433360 >With 30 more pokemon, we would have had an actual chance at getting something not shit. You can't seriously hold that expectation can you. I mean especially after admitting...
>This entire gen is already mostly filler. >ALREADY Anonymous
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>>14433338 Normal typing is actually good now. They're immune to the best type in Gen 6.
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>>14432581 >So much god damn filler. Faggot..Your mom is a fucking Filler..
Anonymous
Guys this thread has been discussed a million times after the total pokemon amount was released. The absolute best reason for why game freak did this was to attract the older demographic that has long since stopped playing pokemon
Anonymous
>>14433475 A few more darts thrown and they might hit a few more bulleyes.
Considering they made Aegislash, they still have the capability for good design in them.
But no, instead we get stuck with more bug/flying types, a useless pikaclone. a useless ice wall, a useless rodent, most fairies being useless and even a useless pseudo.
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>>14432707 >slowed down >extra shit. Faggot, Confirmed..go suck some dick
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>>14432854 >always being the lead. Yeah, right..and it´´s not that Ash Pikachu is out all the time..Right ?? it´s his Pidgey ??..what a fag
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>>14433509 Trying to bring back customers who left never works. Its best to keep your current base satisfied before expanding to other demographics.
Pandering to people who don't give a shit about the franchise anymore won't get them anymore.
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>>14433509 Or ionno. Maybe they focused more on bringing 600+ Pokemon to 3ds, as well as updating every other system in the game.
On a side note. I get the feeling GF will either start rounding out megas for all starters and some other pokemon next gen or release as dlc.
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>>14433475 I didn't admit this entire generation is mostly filler, but I'm not saying it isn't. But I can say there's an extremely high chance they would've made a few more decent designs if they gave it another 20-30 sad attempts.
Anonymous
>>14433321 >60 more filler Really ?? Filler ?? Just because you suck at Pokemon and only go for Legendary..what a fuckign pure mother fucker faggot..there are no such thing as "Filler" Pokemons..Faggot
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>>14433524 >A few more darts thrown and they might hit a few more bulleyes. And how many hit the wall in the process?
>Aegislash exactly my point (pun intended)
>But no, instead we get stuck with more bug/flying types, a useless pikaclone. a useless ice wall, a useless rodent, most fairies being useless and even a useless pseudo I feel the same way but I see reality still. Well we got GF to reconsider the notion that they are compelled to pump out a set amount of pokemon each generation. That's one down. Next we can convince them to stop making pikaclones and all these patterned mons.
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>>14433371 They've always been strong against grass.
The biggest problem is that Poison types are still, well, Poison types.
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I'm not. I actually like the idea of fewer newer pokemon.
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>>14433577 >if they gave it another 20-30 sad attempts. Wow. I never seen someone actually own up to this. God fucking dammit. I am so happy people like you don't run Game Freak. Pokemon would become so mediocre so fast. It would loose relevance by the time Gen 8 rolled around.
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>>14433651 I'm glad I could make you happy, anon.
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>>14433589 Sure there is. We got legendary filler. We have things like ice cream stalagtites that gain an extra face when they evolve. We have pikaclones every generation, a shit ton of fairy types this generation which were primary made to fill up the ranks, and so on and so forth.
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>>14433605 Even if they give up this shit for next gen, that doesn't stop this gen from being a whole lot of disappointment pokemon wise. They didn't even bother to make any of the few new ones good with the exception of shit like Aegislash and Barbaracle. I'd be fine with 70 pokemon if they were all usable. At least half of them anyway.
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>>14433684 The Vanillite line is actually really fun to use in-game. It completely wrecks ass with that SpA.
Not to many pokemon this gen can claim to actually be good with all the bloody Frisk users and shit.
Anonymous
>>14433690 Well that's reasonable. I can understand that notion. On that topic. I'd really like to see them spend some time going over old mons and updating their stats and what not. Shit like onix having a weaker attack stat than joltik is just onixectible.
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>>14433720 That's cool. I'm just saying, two stages would have been fine.
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>>14433713 You're welcome.
>>14433720 I've never heard anyone even hint that the Vanillite line is remotely fun to use.
>>14433756 I agree.
Anonymous
I think the problem is less dramatic than it looks
Anonymous
>>14434008 Bullshit chinese communist math.
Gen 2 added 100 new species that did not exist before.
Gen 3 added 135 new species that did not exist before
Gen 4 added 107 new species that did not exist before
Gen 5 added 156 new species that did not exist before
Gen 6 added on 69 new species that did not exist before.
Gen 6 is the most low-balled, half-assed piece of shit generation in this regard. People have every right to be fucking furious for paying full price for a game that isn't even equal to prior games.
Anonymous
In almost every new gen., GF updates the sprites: palettes, pose, animation.
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>>14434103 >isn't even equal to prior games. Isn't even hyperbole
>paying full price for a game Then don't
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>want to not spoil myself with new Pokemon this gen >decide the sword was the last Pokemon I'd know about >find out that just 15 more Pokemon after the sword was introduced was it and I had already seen all the Pokemon
Anonymous
>>14434103 >forgetting megaevolutions >implying that the massively expanded content, both ingame and postgame, don't make up for less Pokemon. I'd love more, but seriously?
Anonymous
>>14434105 That's not an excuse. Working with 3D models is actually easier than creating and animating sprites.
This is just a sign of gross incompetence, like the fact that the overworld isn't in 3D and the 3D shuts off in double battles. Not to mention the framerate collapsing in double battles.
Anonymous
>>14434186 >massively expanded content >postgame I've been hearing different.
Anonymous
>>14434186 Megavolutions aren't new pokemon.
Gyarados: Dildo version isn't a new pokemon.
Therian Landorus isn't a new pokemon despite having more more different to the base Landorus than any mega is to its regular form.
>postgame existing in X and Y HA
Anonymous
I#m annoyed and pissed off for the people who've played every generation since 1, i feel you guys have been fucked over
Anonymous
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>>14434157 Can't you see he's being mad for you Anon? He's such a good boy.
Anonymous
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>>14434223 You take care of those 500+ anon. They're good buddies.
Anonymous
>>14434186 Do you not understand what "NEW POKEMON SPECIES THAT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE" means?
Mega-Evolutions are not new pokemon species. They are not permanent. They don't have their own dex entries or numbers in the pokedex. They are not considered distinct pokemon. They are nothing more than powered up forms.
That's like calling Rotom's forms "new pokemon species" or Giratina's Origin form a "new pokemon species". Or how about the 26 Unown forms, are those new pokemon species? By your metric, they would be.
Gen 6 introduced 69 new pokemon species, the smallest number of any generation by far. Period.
Anything else is an excuse and denial.
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>>14434203 You should take a good look at /vp/ again, then.
>>14434211 It's new content, you cockmongrel.
And yes, there's post game. Kanpachi was trolling and reviewers are retarded. Everyone else has confirmed that there is, in fact, a post game.
Anonymous
>>14433577 Are you fucking telling me this entire thread is just a cesspool of whining and bitching due to you holding the completely baseless assumption that if there were 30 more Pokemon there would automatically be less filler?
Is this it? Is this really what this thread is about?
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>>14434103 you seem to be mad bud
I was talking about evolutionary lines,
If you want to claim that:
Rhyhorn turned into an entirely new experience to catch for you because it now evolved with an item during trade.
Or Porygon Z is an entirely new species because it evolves from a pokemon you already know since 3 generations if you give him an item during a trade, which isn't even part of the main story
Or that you catch nosepasses and then level them up in a specific area of the region just to evolve them into a glorious new species of Probopass and all this for 27 Pokemon you already know from earlier generations DURING the main story of the game
Then yes, you can claim that Generation added noticably more pokemon than Generation 6 will add based on our current knowledge
Anonymous
>>14434272 They're new content.
Are you implying they aren't new content?
Because that would be very retarded of you.
Anonymous
>>14434308 Don't move goalposts. They're not new pokemon species. They're not new pokemon.
Gen 6 only introduced 69 new pokemon species, the smallest generation to date.
Anonymous
>>14434353 I wasn't. The 'forgetting megaevolutions' thing was aimed at 'not even equal to previous generations'. When there's more metrics to judge a game by than how many Pokemon it adds.
Anonymous
>>14434366 You mean the gimmicks that are only gonna be for this gen? Amie is going the way of pokemon contests.
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>>14434189 >This is just a sign of gross incompetence What planet are you from? I think it's safe to say that that's not common knowledge. I don't even know if I believe you on that one either.
Anonymous
>>14434386 It's still content. That's in the game. That previous generations didn't have. Meaning that there's more to the game than just the new Pokemon it added.
>I-I was only pretending to be retarded! Anonymous
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I think it has more to do with a development point.
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>>14434189 If you consider they had to make models and animate (texturing, painting, rigging, applying some physics) not only to battles, but also for Pokémonamie and what not for 717 (maybe more) and Mega Evolutions, not to talk about what they had to do for moves, 70 new pokémon is still a viable number. None of the new is an evolution or pre-evolution, except for Sylveon.
The Pokébank coming in December, the games are going to get filed with previous pokémon, so GF thought ahead.
Also, story-wise there's a satisfying reason why there're only 70
>Not to mention the framerate collapsing in double battles. This is a limitation of the 3DS, so GF is not the one to be entirely blamed for that
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14434416 >Grinding is content Wow
Gaffy (X) 4682 - 9352 - 4250
Anonymous
>>14434272 I takes the developers just as much time designing a mega evolution as a regular pokemon. So yes they count. Just as evos for old pokemon counted in Gen IV
Anonymous
The thing about this gen is it feels like there are less "useless" pokemon. Honestly, Gen 1 has a ridiculous amount of forgettable pokemon. All those pure waters and grass/poisons. Gen 5 had a fucking trash pokemon, a god damn ice cream pokemon, and a few other useless mons.
Anonymous
>>14434454 >stick a few dildos on an aerodactyl takes as much time as designing an entirely new concept of pokemon with all that entails Yeah no.
Anonymous
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>>14434473 Another butterfly. pikaclone, slow defensive ice type, a keychain, a bunch of useless Frisk and Unnerve users, a bunch of useless double stagers.
Wow, real good pokemon.
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>>14432222 They did this in Gen V, reused old gen 4 front sprites but gave them animations and an updated back sprite. Hardly lifting it without doing anything, but it isn't designing all new sprites. At least that's what I assume that anon meant.
Anonymous
>>14434483 Sticking an armor mod on a rhydon takes as much time as designing an entirely new concept of pokemon with all that entails.
I agree but watch those double standards. Still either way, It takes time to design these things. There were probably many iterations and revisions before anything was finalized.
Anonymous
>>14434454 Are you saying they count as new Pokemon? Because Mega Mawile is just a Mawile. They will never find a way in gen VII to make Mega Mawile permanent.
Anonymous
>>14434560 Yes they are new pokemon in the sense that they are new creations, new designs. In the sense that time and effort was put into them.
Anonymous
>>14432533 ... I-i would have preferred a few more legendaries actually.
at least a trio Anonymous
>>14434583 If it's a brand new Pokemon, why doesn't it have a dex number or unique name aside from 'mega' 'mawile'?
Anonymous
>>14432377 You are just trying to trick yourself into thinking you want it.
If you actually want them to stop making pokemon you obviously don't know anything about it. There are still a lot of type combinations and evolutions that need to be made.
Game Freak are fucking idiots for not making more new type combinations. We are lucky we got the Poison/Dragon, but there are still more. They should have focused on that instead of giving us barely anything new and halfassing most of it (pure ice type two stage, 2 ghost/grass(they are awesome, but come on, 2?)).
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>>14433050 At least you got a dragon this gen.
Anonymous
>>14434620 Because GF conned everyone into thinking this mega idea was revolutionary when really they just broke the 3 stage rule and denied some pokemon true evolutions.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14434549 >Rhyperior is just Rhydon with an armor mod It isn't.
Mega Aerodactyl literally took 5 minutes to pump out.
Anonymous
>>14434629 I don't really understand where you guys are coming from with these type combination expectations. For instance; someone mentioned the absurd Grass/Fire matchup. Like there is any kind of pokemon that would match that description. Then there is the whole issue of the possibility, actually the probability, that it wouldn't even be competitively viable. Now ask yourself; do you really want these new type combinations if chances are they will suck?
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>>14434703 MegaAero is so disappointing every single time I look at him. Almost every mega form seems to be plastered with spikes.
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>>14434703 And Tangrowth isn't just a bigger tangela with dildo hands. It obviously took much more time to make than megadactyl
Anonymous
>>14434715 >every pokemon has to be ou >being a smogonfag >being a fag >being this fucking autistic Anonymous
>>14434715 You just have no imagination.
Jack o Lantern.
Chili pepper.
Sun Flower.
3 grass/fire types there.
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>>14434715 >grass/fire with chlorophyll >not amazing >grass/electric >not amazing Anonymous
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>>14434703 >>Rhyperior is just Rhydon with an armor mod >It isn't. lel
Anonymous
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Do we really need this same post 10 times a day?
Anonymous
>>14434764 I'm actually a karenfag. It doesn't really work from karen or smogon perspective.
>>14434774 Those work. I just don't like the idea of arbitrary type combinations for the sake of it. Just for the sake of it would be bad design direction imo.
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>>14434764 The Smogon tiers do a decent job of balancing a very unbalanced game but there's still the issue that a lot of Pokemon are just not that good. It actually hurts casual players way more than hardcore smogfags because casual players won't adhere to the tiers so you'll get your ass beaten down by Mewtwo Ys and Xerneas' all day long. Having balanced mons is important for people who just want to play the game, smogfags can just go play RU or whatever if they want to use some underplayed pokemon, casuals won't.
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>>14434854 I want to add. I think the bigger issue is why there isn't a dolphin water starter that evolves into a narwhal yet?
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I keep hearing this, but I don't see any proof.
Anonymous
>>14434715 So instead of getting cool, unique pokemon you think it is a good idea to shit out the same old crap over and over again? No.
There are so many combinations they haven't explored and they wasted their chance to try them this generation.
Fuck man. They did Nordic themed legendaries and didn't even make a Fire/Ice type.
Anonymous
My problem is that there are not enough Gen 6 Pokemon I'm interested in to make a full team. It sucks
Anonymous
>>14434905 I know how you feel, I've got myself covered though.
Anonymous
>>14434905 Well thats your issue. Gen 6 has a lot of great mons.
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>>14434598 They can always add Pokémon since the 3DS can have DLC, right?
Anonymous
>>14434933 Like what?
The keychain and cake dog?
Pfft
Anonymous
>>14434885 How would you make a Fire/Ice type?
I'm not opposed to unique typings. In fact, I think it's great. I'm opposed to unique typing just for the sake of unique typings. The way I see it, is the Design always comes first.
Anonymous
>>14434958 0/10
Cake dog is probably my favorite this gen
Anonymous
>>14434854 Setting limits like those actually help you be MORE creative. Its actually harder to be creative when you are given very open option.
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>>14434933 >>14434905 >My problem is >WELL THATS YOUR ISSUE Nigga what did I just say?
Anonymous
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>>14434960 How about you design a big fist to go up your ass?
Anonymous
>>14434991 >not liking pupcake Shittier taste Anonymous
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>>14432718 >implying that won't break the entire fucking gen Anonymous
>>14434438 >getting megaevolutions is grinding >new battle frontieresque thing is grinding. >grinding is not content. You're wrong on all counts. Get out.
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>>14434926 I don't really see Megas as new Pokemon. I wouldn't use them anyway because only 2 out of 18 don't look like shit to me.
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>>14434960 Off the top of my head?
Two headed dragon with a fire head and ice head.
Rudolph the red nosed reindeer with glowing red nose of fiery death.
Anonymous
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Half The people in this thread are annoying as fuck, damn
Anonymous
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>>14432454 Gen 6's designs are better than Gen 1's, though.
Anonymous
>>14435036 >having to jerk off your pokemon in amie an hour every day to make them useful isn't grinding Nice delusion
Anonymous
>>14434964 Not even anon. But you can get rek'd. Any. Day. Of. The. Week. I hate your guts. You are filth. YOU HEAR ME! Filth. I hope that when you die, It is as slow and painful as possible. I hope your soul burns in hell or where ever the fuck people with shit taste go. I hope that where you are buried, the plates subsist and your remains are crushed as they make their way deep underground where they will be turned into fossil fuels and that no one will so much as dig you up to use you in the combustion cycle because by that time people will either not use fossil fuels or will be dead and gone. Then one day you'll crystallize into diamond somehow, then you and your taste will be solidified into a caricature of the worst game in the franchise.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14434975 Not necessarily. Besides the limits you set can be every other aspect of designing a pokemon. For instance, let's make a god dam dolphin already. "Hey lets make it Ghost/Normal". "...h-How? Why?". "There isn't one yet, that's why silly?"
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14432082 that's not confirmed, Megas count, shut up OP, stop it with this shit.
Anonymous
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>>14434598 Wasn't there supposed to be an Ice Wolf or has that been deemed fake?
That Guy
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I must be one of those few who don't absolutely hate the little amount of new Pokemon. It makes sense with the stories of X and Y. Still wish we had at least 80 or something.
Anonymous
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>>14434211 Yep Tangrowth is a whole lot more different from Tangela than MegaMawile is from Mawile.
I mean what.
MegaEvos might not be new Pokemon but I'd count them just as much as I'd count all the evos and preevos in Gen 4. This either lowers Gen 4's count or ups Gen 6's.
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>>14435124 But the ones you mentioned were interesting dual types that takes a bit of creativity/imagination to work with.
Anonymous
>>14435146 >Giratinas origin form is a new Pokemon Anonymous
>>14432082 Because OP. They wanted the Genwunner crowd. And they got it.
God if you'd see the amount of hipter faggots coming to my workplace asking for the games.
That Guy
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>>14435171 Gen 6 confirmed as the shitty hipster generation?
Anonymous
>>14435170 It is, since the forme can't get changed during battle. It was just too early in gens to get a proper mechanism.
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>>14432377 That would be fine if the Gen VI pokes were anywhere close to the level of quality of the Gen V pokes.
Anonymous
>All new 3d game world. ( much better environments ) >All new assets for all pokemon. >All new assets for attack animation. Most of which are light years beyond what they were see brave bird. >combat over hall, most typical competitive moves have been confirmed to be nerfed,buffed, changed. >new types/changes to old types. >mega evos
Anonymous
>>14435208 If it explains it, then how are there still 600 pokemon in the regional dex assuming the mass extinction?
Anonymous
>>14435195 Just stop it.
Origin form is Giratina in another dimension. That's all there is to it.
It's the exact same pokemon in different forms.
Forms. Let's look at that. Forms. Giratina, has a different form. Charizard has a different form, but they call it a mega evolution. It's just a Charizard.
That Guy
>>14435234 >what is migrating Anonymous
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Quality thread.
Anonymous
>>14435208 >No rebalancing of old Pokemon >Removal of challenge mode and gym leader rematches Anonymous
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>>14435234 Pokemon were importeing, and they migrated from other areas, to repopulate the area. This happens in the real world as well.
Anonymous
>>14435257 >migrating to a shit wrecked wasteland >a bunch of landlocked migration incapable pokemon are present Anonymous
>>14435273 You are grasping at straws now. That's an ACTUAL evolution of a Pokemon. It happens outside of battle and realistically - inside of battle.
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>>14435208 >All new 3d game world Looks like they put a giant main character in a BW overworld.
Anonymous
>>14435269 Pokemon get rebalanced every gen, they gain new moves and shit. Also weakness and resistances were changed.
>>Removal of challenge mode and gym leader rematches Not confirmed nobody has talked about it in the post game. Also it's not that big of a deal.
Anonymous
I think it was probably a knee-jerk reaction to Gen 5 having so many pokemon. Gen 5 was a disaster design wise and had such an excess of new pokemon that most were forgettable. (especially the bajillion useless legendaries they tacked on).
Anonymous
>>14435075 But you don't have to. You can just ignore Amie.
Anonymous
>>14435373 I'd honestly rather have what gen 5 brought, than a few Pokemon and a mass of random evolutions that don't matter
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>>14435303 >migrating to a shit wrecked wasteland Lol you act like this shit never happens in real life. the vegetation can grow back, and eventually birds and shit come back.
>a bunch of landlocked migration incapable pokemon are present People imported them.
Anonymous
>>14435408 Outside of a small handful of evolutionary chains, can you honestly say that Gen 5 has memorable pokemon?
I played b/w and b/w2 a helluvalot and I barely remember any of them. I even remember gen4 pokemon better.
Anonymous
>>14435404 And then my pokemon stop being optimal.
I'm forced to use the system.
Anonymous
>>14435463 Outside of Sylveon, there is no necessity to using Amie.
Anonymous
>>14435444 The fuck are you talking about?
Gen 5 brought us goddamn Reuniclus, Scrafty, Krookodile, Volcarona, Galvantula and so many memorable pokemon. You just have fucking awful taste.
Anonymous
>>14435493 Clearly you did not read when I typed "Outside of a small handful of evolutionary chains"
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>>14435491 The in-game bonuses, you mollusk.
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>>14435463 Bullshit.
Also
>muh optimization. And I thought I was autistic.
Anonymous
as a supposed "genwunner," i'm actually pretty excited about this game.
69 new pokemon and most of them look great. where's the floating ice cream cones and bags of garbage? nowhere, that's where. love it
>>14435444 part of that is because you're older. did you spend as much time playing gen5 games as you did playing w/e you started off with when you were a kid?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14435516 There's more than a handful. There's very little that isn't memorable.
Gen 5 was like the only gen that didn't assram bug types.
Anonymous
>>14435547 >where's the floating ice cream cones and bags of garbage? Next to the bloody keychain pokemon
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>>14435547 >did you spend as much time playing gen5 games as you did playing w/e you started off with when you were a kid? Yes, much more time actually.
I had to "share" my gameboy with other family when I was little, so I got very little time with it.
So this isn't a case of nostaligia-faggotry on my part.
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Most of my team will still be older gen stuff this gen so I couldn't care less.
Anonymous
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>>14435561 Oh you're a bugfag.
That explains the almost neurotic defense of Gen 5.
Anonymous
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Meh.
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>>14435582 >Bloody keychain That might be pretty cool
and edgy Anonymous
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>>14435547 B-but Anon, there's a keychain! A keychain! Surely you have to be upset about it!
Anonymous
>>14432168 >people still implying it's hard to convert it to 3D It's easier to do than sprites you fuck.
That Guy
>>14435547 >hopping on the trains of hate toward Trubbish and Vanillite And these anons are why /vp/ is shit.
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>>14435709 While I don't disagree with the overall intent of your post, to imply that the conversion to 3D would NOT take up too much time overall, saying that it's easier than sprites is pants on head retarded.
You're stupid. You should feel stupid. Don't post again.
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>>14435743 Well really, they stick out like sore fucking thumbs design-wise.
Anonymous
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funny because most of these pokemon a
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No, your opinion is not the be all end all. My opinion that the new pokemon look fine/good is just as valid as yours.
Anonymous
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where's that leaked chart
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>>14433050 At least you get gym leaders, we got nothing not a single dark gym leader male or female, not even in the gen dark was added in while steel got one and fairy gets one this gen.
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>>14435346 >Also it's not that big of a deal. Yes it is.
Anonymous
>>14435307 How is Tangrowth's design any different from . What makes all the Gen 4 evos count as new Pokemon but not MegaEvos? Just because they don't show up in your dex? Just because you can't pet them in Amie?
The only Gen 4 Pokemon that aren't new lines that are radically different from their previously created lines I can think of are Mime Jr. and Elecvire. All the other evos could easily be "MegaRhydon" or "MegaMagmar" or what have you.
Anonymous
>>14437320 >different from a mega Evo of what Tangela would be? Pardon me
Anonymous
>>14437320 >>14437381 And to put it into perspective:
Remove the evos and pre-evos from Gen 4's new Pokemon listing, and you have 83 Pokemon. 14 of which are legendaries, something which a lot of people COMPLAINED about. Strip it down to gen 1 levels by only having Palkia, Dialga, and the Lake Trio (as the ones relevant in the main game), and then we get... 74! 75 if you count Giratina for Platinum! FUCKING WOW! 5 MORE THAN THIS GEN, DISCOUNTING MEGA EVOS!
So yeah we have slightly less totally new Pokemon designs than Gen 2 (which were mostly all meant to be in Gen 1 but were cut) and Gen 4 (which has a shitload of legendaries and continuations of old lines)so... so what?
Anonymous
>>14437616 What the hell do prevos and evos of old pokemon have to do with anything? Those prevos and evos are brand new pokemon.
mega evolution arent
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I just love how your counting EVERYTHING from the other gens but arent counting Mega Evolutions
Anonymous
>>14437800 >New evolutions count >Mega's dont Nigga, a new Evolution still fucking counts, there is no excuses not to call Mega Evolutions new Pokemon
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>>14437871 Darmanitans zen mode form is not a new pokemon
Anonymous
>>14437800 Not that guy, but I really fail to see the difference between adding inane shit Igglybuff, Cleffa, Bonsly, Mr. Mime Jr to be any more WONDERFUL than the Mega mechanic.
You can also just take Rhyperior or Magnezone and call them MegaRhydon and MegaMagneton.
You're being very closed minded about this.
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Why are there only over 719 pokemon when digimon have over a thousand?
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>>14438050 It's not being close minded. It's the fact that you guys are calling Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y brand new Pokemon regardless whether they have a different look/type.
Since it only happens during battle, it's not a "new" Pokemon, it's just a new "form" that Pokemon has.
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>>14432082 JESUS count the mega evolutions they're new pokemon too
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>Not counting all the Megas >Not counting all the different forms of Pumpkaboo and its evo >Not counting all the Vivillion pokemon >Implying Aegislash's forms are the same pokemon >Forgetting about all the shiny versions as well
