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>>14434909
Oh that thing? I didn't think it was an ability, anyway the way that works is that if it uses a defensive move it puts the shield infront (left one) and gets massive defense stats, if it uses an attacking move in changes to the right one and gets massive a massive damage stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:05:34 No.14434945 Report

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i saw that honedge and doublade get no guard, but i read somewhere that it gets a new ability called stance change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:10:55 No.14435030 Report

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>>14434941
Fucking cool as tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:11:33 No.14435047 Report

Quoted By: >>14435062 >>14435089 >>14435452 >>14436391

#681 - Aegislash (Ghost/Steel)
Base 60/150/60/150/60/60 (Sword Stance)
Base 60/60/150/60/150/60 (Shield Stance)
Stance Change

Pre-evo (close)
Doublade (Ghost/Steel)
Base 60/110/150/55/50/30
No Guard
Evolution: Dusk Stone

Honedge (Ghost/Steel)
Base ?/?/?/?/?/?
No Guard
Moves (close)
Aerial Ace
Autotomize
Fury Cutter
Iron Head
Iron Defense
Night Slash
Head Smash
Power Trick
Pursuit
Sacred Sword
Shadow Sneak
Slash
Swords Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:12:15 No.14435062 Report

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>>14435047
How does Honedge -> Doublade evolve?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:13:41 No.14435085 Report

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>>14435062

Level up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:13:51 No.14435089 Report

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>>14435047
Guys eviolite Duoblade

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:32:36 No.14435452 Report

Quoted By: >>14435553 >>14435595 >>14435906

>>14435047
Wasn't Sword Stance a lot faster? Like, the Sword Stance is a glass cannon while Shield Stance would be a great wall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:36:29 No.14435553 Report

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>>14435452
I thought so too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:38:35 No.14435595 Report

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>>14435452
they're both slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:39:45 No.14435628 Report

Quoted By: >>14435796 >>14435828

>>14435595
serious? Aww man that's so disappointing... Still total bro worthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:47:32 No.14435796 Report

Quoted By: >>14435853 >>14435874 >>14435898

>>14435628
actually
>protect
>switches to shield mode
>slow speed means opponent strikes first while you have your bulk
>attack move which switches for the extra stats
>repeat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:48:08 No.14435813 Report

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When you have unresisted coverage with Ghost/Fighting, who needs grass or electric moves?

Captcha: apnage fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:48:42 No.14435828 Report

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>>14435628
Trick room will give him defensive stats for the turn he uses it, then the next turn you can hammer the enemy for a fuckton

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:49:44 No.14435853 Report

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>>14435796
You can always tank a hit while using Autotomize and sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:50:46 No.14435874 Report

Quoted By: >>14435896 >>14435919

>>14435796
Wait what? Could you please explain how Stance Change works? I think I've read some wrong info about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:51:50 No.14435896 Report

Quoted By: >>14435976

>>14435874
Before it uses a non-attacking move, it switches to defensive mode. Before attacking, it switches to offensive mode.

Protect is not an attacking move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:51:55 No.14435898 Report

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>>14435796
yeah I thought of that just after I posted my comment. He's gone back up to mega ultra bro tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:52:23 No.14435906 Report

Quoted By: >>14435976 >>14435992

>>14435452
You seem to not understand how the Stance ability works.

Let me throw out the Aegislash flowchart for you.

Battle Begins!
King's Shield ( Priority "Protect" type, if opponents move is physical its -2 ATK stages)
or
Sword Dance

Next turn if King Shield went through..

Battle start!
Opponent outspeeds Aegislash and smacks him while in shield form, tanks the hit because DEFENSE. Aegislash goes second, changes to sword form and uses Sacred Sword with HUEG ATK.

Next turn, priority King's Shield -> Repeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:53:04 No.14435919 Report

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>>14435874
this is what the leaker at the time said about it
"stance change works so if you use an offensive move, you change into sword forme, and if you use a non-offensive move [[think like prankster classifications]] then it switches you to shield mode, the change happens before the attack"

I'm paraphrasing, but that's the jist of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:55:31 No.14435973 Report

Quoted By: >>14436003

>Wanting to attack first
>Aegislash

What the fuck is wrong with you faggots, how about you use your fucking brains.

Why would you want to attack first, leaving yourself exposed with 60/60 defences. Idiots.

You attack last, and defend first. That's how this pokemon works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:55:32 No.14435974 Report

Quoted By: >>14436905

Has there been any info on how early you can catch Honedge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:55:37 No.14435976 Report

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>>14435906
>>14435896

Ah, thanks a lot. The slow speed isn't a problem at all then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:56:20 No.14435992 Report

Quoted By: >>14436070

>>14435906
what exactly does King's Shield do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:56:53 No.14436003 Report

Quoted By: >>14436070 >>14436117 >>14436141 >>14436143 >>14436171

>>14435973
That's predictable though, so if it gets Autotomize or something to boost speed, it might be better.

...Imagine if it gets Gear Shift

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 15:59:56 No.14436070 Report

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>>14435992
It's priority, like Protect. Nullifies all damage, and if they used a contact move like crunch its a -2 ATK stage loss for them.

>>14436003
You.. don't seem to understand that this thing isn't for sweeping, it's for killing things outright. It would be better if it was able to get a recovery move than increase it's speed to be a glass cannon and get shot by priority moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:02:05 No.14436117 Report

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>>14436003
I'm hoping for magnet rise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:03:00 No.14436141 Report

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>>14436003
It DOES get Autotomize... keep up dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:03:06 No.14436143 Report

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>>14436003
Also one more thing. So what if it's predictable, thats where the mind games come in. If they try to set-up or otherwise then you set-up with Swords Dance or another status move while in Shield forme, which he's a ghost so who can say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:04:19 No.14436171 Report

Quoted By: >>14436929

>>14436003

It might be predictable, but even so, there's not a lot that can counter it without being overly specialised, so it hardly matters.

In b4 smogon b&

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:07:56 No.14436270 Report

Quoted By: >>14436349 >>14436613

so, what you're saying is, when he switches stances his attack and defense stat switches.

so you use a priority defensive move (King's Shield) turn 1 to switch to defensive form and absorb a hit, then an attacking move turn 2 to switch to offensive form and deal out tons of damage?

that's pretty neat actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:08:21 No.14436283 Report

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>>14434836
Can't it learn Leaf Blade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:10:52 No.14436349 Report

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>>14436270
It's in devensive form by default so you can just start hitting things if they have a setup move or something else

I'm still kind of torn on this, i think people overrate it's defenses
the hp is just too low

That Guy

That Guy Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:12:16 No.14436391 Report

Quoted By: >>14436431 >>14436471 >>14436521 >>14436578 >>14436686 >>14436691

>>14435047
>60 Speed
Into the trash it goes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:13:24 No.14436431 Report

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>>14436391

Really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:14:49 No.14436471 Report

Quoted By: >>14436662

>>14436391
I don't understand why people aren't getting this. Not only that but it has Autotomize as a learned move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:16:19 No.14436521 Report

Quoted By: >>14436662

>>14436391
>He doesn't know the secret

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:17:52 No.14436578 Report

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>>14436391
another retarded namefag, ignore and move on people

That Guy

That Guy Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:19:05 No.14436613 Report

Quoted By: >>14436714 >>14436741

>>14436270
So basically we all know how this nigga is going to work? That takes the fun out of battling since everyone who has Aegislash will have King's Shield.

That Guy

That Guy Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:20:35 No.14436662 Report

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>>14436431
>>14436471
>>14436521
>>14436578
Forgive my retardation. Didn't read it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:21:12 No.14436686 Report

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>>14436391
You do realize the way it works, right?
It WANTS to be slow.
It wants to be as slow as shit. Like 0 speed IVs and speed reducing nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:21:21 No.14436691 Report

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>>14436391
don't be that guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:22:04 No.14436714 Report

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>>14436613
>"wow this thing is slow and useless trash I'll never use him"
>"oh so we all know everything about him already? I'm never going to use him"

please stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:22:44 No.14436741 Report

Quoted By: >>14436828

>>14436613
Nigga, think about how cool Aegislash vs Aegislash fights would be.
Ultimate prediction like real sword fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:25:26 No.14436828 Report

Quoted By: >>14436880 >>14437000 >>14437041 >>14437085 >>14437113

>>14436741
>toxic
>spam shield
>ultimate prediction

unless he learns some damn good non contact moves i dont see it happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:26:52 No.14436880 Report

Quoted By: >>14437098

>>14436828
>using toxic on a steel type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:27:51 No.14436905 Report

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>>14435974
He comes before the second gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:28:36 No.14436929 Report

Quoted By: >>14436995

>>14436171
I swear upon all that is holy, if Smogon bans Aegislash to Ubers, i will personally suffocate Chaos with Pomfret's remains

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:30:32 No.14436995 Report

Quoted By: >>14437016

>>14436929
Aegislash in ubers.
Doublade in OU with eviolite.
You heard it here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:30:55 No.14437000 Report

Quoted By: >>14437098

>>14436828
literally retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:31:28 No.14437016 Report

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>>14436995
In all honesty, i've been planning to use eviolite duoblade over ageislash ever since it was revealed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:32:29 No.14437041 Report

Quoted By: >>14437098

>>14436828
>toxic
Anon confirmed for having never played Pokemon in his life

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:33:44 No.14437085 Report

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>>14436828
>Toxic
>Steel type
lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:34:18 No.14437098 Report

Quoted By: >>14437122 >>14437142 >>14437152 >>14437166 >>14437185 >>14437188

>>14436880
>>14437000
>>14437041
toxic doesn't work on poison types not steel you faggots

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:34:54 No.14437113 Report

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>>14436828

That Guy

That Guy Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:35:08 No.14437122 Report

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>>14437098
I suddenly don't feel so retarded.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:35:36 No.14437142 Report

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>>14437098
Stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:36:11 No.14437152 Report

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>>14437098
I believed in you man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:36:40 No.14437166 Report

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>>14437098
Anon still confirmed for having never played pokemon in his life

[spoilers]I bet you're a smogonfag who forefits when matched up against a steel monotype team becasue steel resists your precious dragons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:37:00 No.14437185 Report

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>>14437098
Oh god the bait is too strong

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:37:03 No.14437188 Report

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>>14437098
>being even more retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:37:40 No.14437209 Report

Quoted By: >>14437235

> all those zelda related nicknames

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:38:36 No.14437235 Report

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>>14437209
So i'm not the only one naming my Aegislash Biggoron?

I love you ~

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:38:52 No.14437241 Report

Quoted By: >>14437297 >>14437349 >>14437362 >>14437405

Aegislash is seriously going to dominate, like if it had a set somewhat like this:

Aegislash @ Leftovers
Brave Nature
252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spe (Or something along those lines)
- King's Shield/Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Sneak

there you have it folks. One of the best wall breakers in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:41:12 No.14437297 Report

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>>14437241
>And speed at all on him
Why

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:43:08 No.14437349 Report

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>>14437241
get 4 spd and 0 IVs in speed and that will be alright

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:43:33 No.14437362 Report

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>>14437241
>speed
>not using -speed nature
>not using 0 speed IVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:44:52 No.14437405 Report

Quoted By: >>14437474

>>14437241
It kinda has to have King's shield (or protect), so I'm not sure why you listed that as an option. If he doesn't have it, he gets wrecked. Shadow Sneak is pretty pointless on this guy too. Pursuit could be nice, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:47:20 No.14437468 Report

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looks really weak to encore and status, and incredibly prediction-reliant. will probably suffer from the same problems as normal deoxys, in that it can't actually ohko the things it needs to. it can be ohko'd by several common OU pokemon in shield form with max hp/zero defense evs, as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:47:35 No.14437474 Report

Quoted By: >>14437509

>>14437405
what does king's shield do? Is it like Protect or is it a batter variant of Protect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:48:09 No.14437486 Report

Quoted By: >>14437530

>what is taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:49:00 No.14437509 Report

Quoted By: >>14437585

>>14437474
Its protect + if the opponent uses a contact move that would hit, it takes -2 attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:50:09 No.14437530 Report

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>>14437486
An invitation for blade forme to tear you a new asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:52:28 No.14437585 Report

Quoted By: >>14437712

>>14437509
oh nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 16:57:19 No.14437712 Report

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>>14437585
The reason it not being optional is that without a priority defensive move, he will be forced to take a hit while still in sword stance.

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