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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:24:02 No.14442386 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14442669 >>14443549 >>14443904 >>14446279

Those levels. Highest lvl gym leaders ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:29:24 No.14442561 Report

Quoted By: >>14442631 >>14442705

>Only one Gym Leader uses more than one Kalos mon.

Disgusting. But still better than Gen II

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:31:28 No.14442631 Report

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>>14442561
>implying there are kalos pokemon to use

Pokemaniac Steve

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Pokemaniac Steve Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:32:35 No.14442669 Report

Quoted By: >>14442733

>>14442386
More like Anus Star city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:33:43 No.14442705 Report

Quoted By: >>14443089

>>14442561
there was a NUUUUKKKEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:34:36 No.14442733 Report

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>>14442669
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:34:51 No.14442740 Report

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A damn shame that the max is 3 Pokemon once again...
I would have loved them to have more Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:35:49 No.14442773 Report

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>only 3 pokemon each
Disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:36:00 No.14442781 Report

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>still no Dark type gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:36:11 No.14442792 Report

Quoted By: >>14442827

>Just three pokemon per leader
Is there a hard mode this time around again? It really made Black 2 more enjoyable for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:37:14 No.14442827 Report

Quoted By: >>14442876

>>14442792
It was an option that almost every single player adored and wanted in the next games.

Of course it's not in, this is Gamefreak. They don't keep anything they don't absolutely need to.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:37:49 No.14442850 Report

Quoted By: >>14443904

Silly Serebii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:38:06 No.14442867 Report

Quoted By: >>14443959

>3 Pokemon each
>No gym leader rematches

GF really dropped the ball this gen. I understand that they wait for the 3rd version to add shit, but it's going to get to the point where no one will buy the first two, and will just wait for the 3rd game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:38:33 No.14442876 Report

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>>14442827
It will be in Z

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:39:06 No.14442895 Report

Quoted By: >>14442919 >>14442925

Are TMs reusable still?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:39:54 No.14442919 Report

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>>14442895
No, they're DLC only now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:40:06 No.14442925 Report

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>>14442895
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:41:47 No.14442985 Report

Quoted By: >>14443033 >>14443063

The whole 3 Pokemon for Gym Leaders really bums me out tbh.

Any word on how the rematching works or if there is even anything like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:43:21 No.14443033 Report

Quoted By: >>14443117

>>14442985
Viola said she'd occasionally appear at the Battle Chateau, so that's a strong possibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:44:05 No.14443063 Report

Quoted By: >>14443117

>>14442985
rematch is something they didn't have to include so they didn't include it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:44:42 No.14443089 Report

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>>14442705
waaaaaaay in the past, hobo-man is immortal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:45:19 No.14443117 Report

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>>14443033
okay at least there's hope

>>14443063
and then this comes crashing down

god dammit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:49:15 No.14443240 Report

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Emolga and Cryogonal again? Meh. Why not Galvantula and Walrein respectively?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:51:12 No.14443310 Report

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Not surprised, considering how piss easy it is to level up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:53:08 No.14443370 Report

Quoted By: >>14443402

>Gen VI
>Perfect opportunity to have each leader use 6 Pokemon, one per gen
>Three Pokemon, most aren't even new

I don't have an image for this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:54:19 No.14443402 Report

Quoted By: >>14443492 >>14443509

>>14443370
can;t tell if the bird is sad or not so maybe this will work

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:56:24 No.14443492 Report

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>>14443402

I think he's happy. Nigga looks like he loves watermelon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:56:51 No.14443509 Report

Quoted By: >>14443670

>>14443402
that bird might be dead

i've also come to terms with Gen VI potentially being as disappointing as IV then with the release of Z being GOAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:58:03 No.14443549 Report

Quoted By: >>14443677

>>14442386
>He only uses bulky defensive ice types
This has to be a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 19:59:17 No.14443588 Report

Quoted By: >>14444006 >>14446135 >>14446174

>beating last gym with only ember spam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:00:47 No.14443637 Report

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The worst thing about this series has to be how fucking comfortable GF has gotten with leaving out features for the third version

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:01:09 No.14443650 Report

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Wow, a 10 level difference between the 7th and 8th gym? Prepare for plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:01:57 No.14443670 Report

Quoted By: >>14443729

>>14443509
Z won't make goat any more than Plat made GOAT (at least for the reasons you're suggesting). If you're having issues with the pokemon of the game, adding more old pokemon isn't going to fix that too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:02:05 No.14443677 Report

Quoted By: >>14443755 >>14443800

>>14443549
I know, the gyms have gotten ridiculously easy all in the past few years.
Shit, Gym Leaders should be having six Pokemon, not three. It can't be that hard to design full teams and it's not like the game is that hard anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:03:54 No.14443729 Report

Quoted By: >>14443824

>>14443670
for whatever reason I loved Platinum and it saved Gen IV for me (not including HG/SS). i'm hoping for that if I find this gen disappointing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:04:38 No.14443755 Report

Quoted By: >>14443824 >>14443915 >>14443919 >>14446054

>>14443677
Kids in Japan allegedly bitched about Platinum's difficulty.

I wouldn't have minded GF making the base levels this easy if they just offered a hard mode for older fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:06:08 No.14443800 Report

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>>14443677
Last time a Gym leader had more than 4 pokemon was Wallace/Juan in Gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:06:39 No.14443824 Report

Quoted By: >>14443876

>>14443729
Oh, platinum was good and it fixed a lot of issues with DP, but one of those issues was too few pokemon, which this game can't fix without tossing in the last of the pokedex.

Also gonna say, HGSS disappoints because they didn't fix it's personal leveling issues either.

>>14443755
IIRC the difficulty came from level spikes rather than number of pokemon everyone had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:08:18 No.14443876 Report

Quoted By: >>14443961

>>14443824
yeah that's why. D/P didn't have like any fire pokemon pre E4 and platinum added more in general.

yeah that blew for HG/SS. highest wild pokemon was around 40s iirc. it's been awhile since i played anything from Gen IV so i'm rusty

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:09:03 No.14443904 Report

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>>14442850
>>14442386
>Gym leaders with two or three pokemon
Three should be the bare minimum one has. They should have around 3-5 each (maybe 6).

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:09:34 No.14443915 Report

Quoted By: >>14446256 >>14446340

>>14443755
>DP had lesser Pokemon than Platinum
>Candice,Volkner and Flint didn't had a mono-type squad
>E4's levels was through the roof
>Fucking Cynthia
>Platinum fixes all of these things
>Somehow harder than DP was

Are kids in Japan casuals or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:09:36 No.14443919 Report

Quoted By: >>14444034

>>14443755
Oh, boo fucking hoo. Platinum was a cakewalk.
I'd like to see today's Japanese kids deal with the shitty level gap of Gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:10:46 No.14443959 Report

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>>14442867
>No gym leader rematches
Where was this confirmed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:10:47 No.14443961 Report

Quoted By: >>14444452

>>14443876
It had the fire starter and ponyta. They added a couple more as well. The game also boosted the speed of text some movement speeds, animation speed and cut levels off of the trainers in the E4. Cynthia was still a bit of a bitch, IIRC.

And yeh, peaking at 40 with the E4 getting huge level gaps ruins the pacing/challenge in that game since you're either overleveled for the start or underleveled for the end (was the same for DP)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:11:53 No.14443990 Report

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>>14443117
well i dont really know, i don't have the game, but i've read that the elite 4 doesn't change after the first time, or ever. that's what i was thinking of actually.

i doubt rematches are in either though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:12:13 No.14444006 Report

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>>14443588
>Still using ember at level 50

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:13:01 No.14444034 Report

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>>14443919
You could deal with it pretty well since most of the Kanto leaders in Gen 2 had shit levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:24:13 No.14444371 Report

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Holy shit, these gym teams suck. And it would only take a minute to make a decent team.

I hope they'll update the option to do something about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 20:26:07 No.14444452 Report

Quoted By: >>14447428

>>14443961
>And yeh, peaking at 40 with the E4 getting huge level gaps ruins the pacing/challenge in that game since you're either overleveled for the start or underleveled for the end (was the same for DP)

No, it wasn't the same for DP. What kind of bullshit is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:13:54 No.14446054 Report

Quoted By: >>14446209

>>14443755
Isn't that the same reason why they changed up the card game so much? Because Japanese kids were getting rekt by baka gaijins

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:16:07 No.14446135 Report

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>>14443588
>beating ANY GYM with your SE move of choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:16:56 No.14446167 Report

Quoted By: >>14446227

level curve is much sharper to compensate for if you use the exp all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:17:08 No.14446174 Report

Quoted By: >>14447181

>>14443588

>tfw you wouldn't even have to spam it

I Fucking hate GF sometimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:18:00 No.14446209 Report

Quoted By: >>14446227

>>14446054
Yeah, GF responds to complaints.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:18:30 No.14446227 Report

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>>14446167
The teams are so shit you don't even need to outlevel them.

>>14446209
The dumbest complaints only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:19:14 No.14446256 Report

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>>14443915
I might be misremembering but I feel as though Platinum AI seemed like it was better.

Might have contributed if true.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:19:50 No.14446279 Report

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>>14442386
>Wulfric is last gym leader this gen

Its about time a manly gym leader was considered the strongest.

Too bad his team is so ass holy shit.

No I don't count Drayden because Iris.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:21:22 No.14446340 Report

Quoted By: >>14446678

>>14443915
Level curve was steeper throughout up to the e4.

Most of platinum was harder, only the e4 was easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:23:35 No.14446413 Report

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Speaking of Cyrogonal, can it actually make use of Attract now?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:24:08 No.14446444 Report

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>tfw Wulfric has Freeze dry or whatever that ice type move that hit water types super effectively was

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:28:37 No.14446621 Report

Quoted By: >>14446712

>Wulfric's highest level pokemon is only one level lower than Blue's highest level pokemon in HGSS.

Granted, 3 pokemon instead of 6 but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:30:04 No.14446678 Report

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>>14446340
This. The E4 was left alone and the rest of the game was raised up to the E4's level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:30:59 No.14446712 Report

Quoted By: >>14446862

>>14446621
>2 regions

Kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:33:22 No.14446812 Report

Quoted By: >>14446967 >>14446993 >>14447235

Abomasnow (mega stone)
Aurorus (focus band)
Jynx (dry skin, occa berry)
Mamoswine (thick fat)
Avalugg (sitrus berry)

Took whole 10 seconds to make able to survive a couple more turns of ember or karate chop spam. But guess GF couldn't be bothered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:34:47 No.14446862 Report

Quoted By: >>14447033

>>14446712
>2 regions with NOLEVELS
Reminder that Pryce's Piloswine is a lower level than Jasmine's Steelix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:37:23 No.14446967 Report

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>>14446812
to be fair even with its easy mode setup, you can't sweep its team in 3 turns unless you have an overleveled special attacker. cryogonal takes special hits just as well as avalaugg takes physical ones.
unless you play in retarded easy mode with switch battle mode lol.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:38:05 No.14446993 Report

Quoted By: >>14447511

>>14446812
>Jynx
>Aurorus

Are you fucking serious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:39:12 No.14447033 Report

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>>14446862
It doesn't count faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:44:01 No.14447181 Report

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>>14446174
Cryogonal has super high Sp Def so you'd have to spam it on him

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:45:41 No.14447235 Report

Quoted By: >>14447511

>>14446812

Cloyster and Cryogal are decent enough

and no Lapras?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:50:50 No.14447421 Report

Quoted By: >>14447974

>All these gym's weak to fire.

So fennekin confirmed for "easy mode"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:51:02 No.14447428 Report

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>>14444452
Yes, it was. It wasn't a peak of 40 in the wild, though.

Wild pokemon peaked at 48, and cynthia peaked at 66, creating an 18 level gap after your 2-3 level gaps from before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 21:53:26 No.14447511 Report

Quoted By: >>14447949

>>14446993
>>14447235

Well, yeah, if you want to make the strongest possible team. I forgot to add Cryogal back in though, it's good to have alongside Avalugg.

The reason for a weaker team is just that it would be stupid to make a gym leader's team as good those that E4 would (should) have. And I wanted to add as much from gen 6 as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 22:06:24 No.14447949 Report

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>>14447511
You kind of have to make the team fit the trainer y'know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 22:07:28 No.14447974 Report

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>>14447421
Its the girl pokemon so yes, its only naturall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 22:10:40 No.14448069 Report

Quoted By: >>14449031

There must be a shitload to do in between 7 and 8. Obviously the Team Flare climax, but more than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 22:36:58 No.14449031 Report

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>>14448069
That or just a pumped number of trainers between everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 22:40:13 No.14449163 Report

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>>14444444

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 23:46:58 No.14451670 Report

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ALL Hail the High King of Kalos, Jarl Wulfric

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2013 23:58:53 No.14452115 Report

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No E4 and Champion yet?

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