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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 01:56:07 No.14456592 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14456806 >>14456834 >>14456835 >>14456900 >>14457045 >>14457244 >>14457249 >>14457251

Is Froakie still the best starter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 01:57:22 No.14456592,1 Report Delete

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no.
but you were close. the answer starts with an f.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 01:58:24 No.14456673 Report

Quoted By: >>14456830

Does the pope enjoy the company of small children

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:00:00 No.14456736 Report

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Actually everyone loves Chespin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:01:06 No.14456771 Report

Quoted By: >>14456816 >>14456835,1 >>14459177

Does a cop shoot an unarmed African American man and call it self defense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:04 No.14456806 Report

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>>14456592
Greninja's base stats are the lowest we've seen in a starter EVER.

His highest offensive stat is just 95. That's embarrassing. His physical attack is 90, and his speed is 125. His defenes are 80/70/70.

He's weak to 6 of the 8 gyms.

Embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:15 No.14456816 Report

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>>14456771
when the black guy is a well known criminal, then it's a good thing to shoot him at any moment

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:31 No.14456830 Report

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>>14456673

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:37 No.14456834 Report

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>>14456592
All of the day, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:37 No.14456835 Report

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>>14456592
Does Fox create laughable news?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:48 No.14456835,1 Report Delete

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>>14456771
you can't flim flam the zim zam

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:02:55 No.14456847 Report

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doez ur mom suk my dik xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:03:20 No.14456855 Report

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>>14456736
ahaahaa
good joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:03:41 No.14456869 Report

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>>14456816
That's called violating the law, you dense fuck: you're not supposed to do it, and thus it is frowned upon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:04:01 No.14456885 Report

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>>14456806
Well, I enjoy a challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:04:13 No.14456900 Report

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>>14456592
Is Pikachu based on a mouse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:04:21 No.14456904 Report

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Nope, and it never was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:05:02 No.14456931 Report

Quoted By: >>14458153

What a joke.

>Ash picked him
Confirmed for weakest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:05:14 No.14456936 Report

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>>14456869
Sometimes you have to violate the law to do a good deed and protect innocent people

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:05:56 No.14456970 Report

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>>14456885

Alright Green

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:06:00 No.14456973 Report

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>>14456806

Really?How would he compare competitively to other starters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:06:03 No.14456977 Report

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Does a bear shit in the woods?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:06:12 No.14456981 Report

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>>14456806
>"Greninja's base stats are the lowest we've seen in a starter EVER."
8/10, made me check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:07:05 No.14457014 Report

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>>14456936
But that's not how the world works, you pseudo-philosopher cunt: if you could justify killing people because "muh liberty," you could also use this power to kill whoever the fuck you want, and can justify it by saying someone was a threat.

Stalin says good job, though.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:07:44 No.14457040 Report

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>>14456806

>mfw he only has 4 weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:07:47 No.14457045 Report

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>>14456592
Is Ash Ketchum bad at being a pokemon master?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:08:03 No.14457054 Report

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worst of the three
overall good poke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:08:04 No.14457055 Report

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>>14456973
Its stats total is 530, like every other water starter. Every grass starter is 525, and every fire starter is 534.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:08:48 No.14457091 Report

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>>14456981
80/90/70/95/75/125 is Gen 1 tier. The only starter that has lower stats is Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:09:05 No.14457105 Report

Quoted By: >>14458979 >>14459088

No, because Greninja turned it into a horrible abomination

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:09:13 No.14457111 Report

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>>14457040
Elec, Grass, Fighting, Fairy, Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:09:49 No.14457142 Report

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>>14456936
Watching a little too much batman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:09:51 No.14457143 Report

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>>14457055
Swampert and its 535 BST disagree
Swambro's got the highest BST of any starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:10:46 No.14457186 Report

Quoted By: >>14457265 >>14457360

>>14457040
>mfw all his weaknesses are common as balls and dangerous

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:10:53 No.14457190 Report

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>>14457111
>Implying you'll have a Greninja by the 1st gym.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:10:53 No.14457192 Report

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>>14457014
you took the bait
why would you take the bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:11:58 No.14457244 Report

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>>14456592
Is anime stigmatized in all forms of western art education?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:12:07 No.14457249 Report

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>>14456592
It depends on egg moves and hidden abilities. Can't say yet. I will say that this is a huge improvement from gen v.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:12:10 No.14457251 Report

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>>14456592
He's still my bro, but I'm gonna use Chespin this time around. Nothing against Froakie. I just like Chesnaught more than Greninja. I'll use him for Z version or X2 or whatever they'll call it.
My headcanon for Greninja is that his tongue froths up forming a bubble scarf but it wasn't shown in his 3D model because Game Freak dropped the ball as usual.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:12:29 No.14457260 Report

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>>14457192
Wow: if that was b8, anon sure trolled me by wasting five seconds of my life.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:12:32 No.14457265 Report

Quoted By: >>14457297 >>14457375

>>14457186
>Grass
>Bug
>Common attacking types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:13:25 No.14457297 Report

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>>14457265
>uturn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:13:52 No.14457322 Report

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>>14456806
Actually, that's 535, which is identical to swampert and higher than every other Water starter.

1 point higher than infernape and 5 higher than Blaziken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:13:56 No.14457326 Report

Quoted By: >>14457420 >>14457439

>>14457040
>Bug, Fighting, Fairy, Grass, Electric
>4

Learn to count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:14:55 No.14457360 Report

Quoted By: >>14457444

>>14457186
Good thing for protean then, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:15:06 No.14457371 Report

Quoted By: >>14457402

>>14457322
And it's all wasted on his speed stat. No pokemon needs to be that fast.

Anything more than 105-110 is a fucking waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:15:10 No.14457375 Report

Quoted By: >>14457470

>>14457190

exactly.

>>14457111

Don't pure grass types have 6 weaknesses on there own anyways?

>>14457265

What about U-turn? Even though it probably doesn't do good damage anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:15:59 No.14457402 Report

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>>14457371
>And it's all wasted on his speed stat. No pokemon needs to be that fast.

Except that for its hidden ability moving first is going to be critical?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:16:33 No.14457420 Report

Quoted By: >>14457698

>>14457326

I meant out of 4 gyms you fucking moron. If you had a level 36 pokemon by the time you reached the bug gym you'd win anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:16:56 No.14457439 Report

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>>14457326
>5
>still not 6
no u

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:17:02 No.14457444 Report

Quoted By: >>14457499 >>14457554 >>14457604

>>14457360
Protean completely ruins Greninja, it makes him super predictable, forces him to use shit moves for the sake of changing his typing, he doesn't get STAB because he's a mono-type, and it only changes his type AFTER he uses the move (not during).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:17:50 No.14457470 Report

Quoted By: >>14457698 >>14457824

>>14457375
They do, and Chestnaught has a 4x.
He's weak to
>fire
>4x flying
>ice
>psychic
>fairy
>poison

The fox is weak to
>water
>dark
>ghost
>rock
>ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:18:09 No.14457483 Report

Quoted By: >>14457698

>>14457040
5 with fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:18:37 No.14457499 Report

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>>14457444
Well, the types the Greninja would turn into would depend on what moveset you gave him, for one.

And from there it's a guessing game for both parties. A good prediction allows you to knock him out. A bad prediction means you're doing very little.

On the right enemies he might switch to a type that effectively walls them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:19:38 No.14457554 Report

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>>14457444
>is looking forward to a Protean gimmick set where you keep changing type to exploit immunities
>prays that Greninja will learn enough Normal, Ghost, Flying, Dark, or Fairy moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:19:57 No.14457574 Report

Quoted By: >>14457693

Protean is such a huge gimmick, it's not even funny.

Let's assume he has access to Steel, Fighting, Ghost, and Ground moves (highly unlikely). Since he goes first he'll be able to change his type depending on the situation. Unfortunately, it locks him into the same move to get STAB.

Metronome could be his friend in this situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:20:28 No.14457604 Report

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>>14457444
>That Speed.
>Not knowing Greninja's movepool yet.
>Nonetheless, labelling this set-up as "predictable."

Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:21:23 No.14457646 Report

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Protean would be better on a pokemon with base 100 defenses and 90+ HP. They'd make the most of any resistances they'd gain in those other types. Even a Steel Greninja would be half-dead for a resisted hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:22:29 No.14457693 Report

Quoted By: >>14457945

>>14457574
His speed is high enough to almost definitely go first before priority is accounted for and the monotype choice means that if you can anticipate your opponent's coverage you can switch to a type they can't do jack shit to.

There's also the possibility for unusual combinations, such as the possibility to use the fighting mat move to change to fighting (Assuming non-damage moves can trigger protean) and then follow up with a fighting STAB attack. This limits the number of types he can change to but allows for an interesting setup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:22:40 No.14457698 Report

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>>14457470

In terms of weaknesses compared to the others, he seems well off actually. Most of the foxes weaknesses are less common attacking types though so he might be better.

>>14457483

See >>14457420

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:23:17 No.14457733 Report

Quoted By: >>14458068

Steel -> Flying -> Ground -> Dragon

Perfect 4 types for Protean. A good combination of offensive STABs and abusable immunities to cycle through.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:25:21 No.14457824 Report

Quoted By: >>14457838 >>14457905 >>14457908 >>14457932 >>14458121

>>14457470
Do you know who else has a 4x weakness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:25:45 No.14457838 Report

Quoted By: >>14457880

>>14457824
Tyranitar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:26:54 No.14457880 Report

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>>14457838
MY MOM

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:27:23 No.14457905 Report

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>>14457824
YOU MAMMA

#REKT
#OWNED
#HEH
#PWNED
#SWAG

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:27:25 No.14457908 Report

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>>14457824
Charizard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:27:55 No.14457930 Report

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>>14457880
TO MY DICK LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:27:58 No.14457932 Report

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>>14457824

Seismitoad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:28:16 No.14457945 Report

Quoted By: >>14458080

>>14457693
Wow, if Mat Block actually fucking works to switch his typing you could get away with some shenanigans.

Mat Block - Fighting
Fighting STAB move
Steel (Resists galore, too useful)
----

That last slot can go either way. Ghost would be a good switch on a predicted fighting, but flying would save your ass from an EQ. I think Ghost would be better because of the fewer common weaknesses and immunity to two types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:28:34 No.14457957 Report

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>>14456806

Protean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:31:11 No.14458068 Report

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>>14457733
Replace Dragon with Water. Water can switch to ground on predicted electric moves or steel on predicted ice or grass. Ground can switch to Steel on predicted ice or water on predicted water attacks.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:31:32 No.14458080 Report

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>>14457945

I'm hoping to god he learns metronome

>1 v 1 a friend with mirror greninjas
>only move is metronome
>100% luck, shit gets intense

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:32:36 No.14458116 Report

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Actually no, the answer is Hoppip. It's 4x weak to poison. Nice try though.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:32:44 No.14458121 Report

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>>14457824

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:33:35 No.14458153 Report

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>>14456931
What about infernape? nigga be mvp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:34:03 No.14458171 Report

Quoted By: >>14458355 >>14460703

>>14456855
>tfw play through y with chespin
>after end game pick up my froakie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:38:30 No.14458355 Report

Quoted By: >>14458612 >>14458659 >>14458726 >>14460703

>>14458171
I'm annoyed that they are pushing chespin on me, being as I'm choosing fennekin. I have never liked chespin at all, and I am practically forced to take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:45:23 No.14458612 Report

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>>14458355
So box it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:46:31 No.14458659 Report

Quoted By: >>14460703

>>14458355
tell me about it. I'll have to take that abomination of a fox humanoid piece of fuck.
gosh how i hate that fucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:48:28 No.14458726 Report

Quoted By: >>14458766

>>14458355
Yeah, I wish they'd give me a Froakie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:49:28 No.14458766 Report

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>>14458726
and i wish i'd get a chespin ;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:54:43 No.14458979 Report

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>>14457105
My nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 02:57:47 No.14459088 Report

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>>14457105
My nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:00:09 No.14459177 Report

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>>14456771
>implying george zimmerman was a cop

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:02:39 No.14459290 Report

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Delphox's hidden ability is Magic Guard. Not looking so stupid now, is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:03:44 No.14459331 Report

Quoted By: >>14459930

what would greninja's stats be if 252att 252speed 4hp at lvl 100, and if 252sp.att? or somewhere i could calculate it myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:03:50 No.14459337 Report

Quoted By: >>14459405 >>14459412

Is it pronounced Gree-ninja or Gren-inja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:05:37 No.14459405 Report

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>>14459337
if taking its french root into acount, it would be the latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:05:45 No.14459412 Report

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>>14459337
The latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:20:28 No.14459930 Report

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>>14459331
any good website for this?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:44:23 No.14460703 Report

Quoted By: >>14460834

>>14458171
>>14458355
>>14458659
Can I get sauce on after game starter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:48:02 No.14460834 Report

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>>14460703
It's been confirmed by several leakers. Go find it yourself, it's been known forever.

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