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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:34:55 No.14463278 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14463355 >>14463413 >>14463468 >>14463536 >>14465359

More nerfs, according to Serebii:
>Low Seep now has 65 BP (fuck you Techniloom)
>Surf, Ice Beam, Flamethrower and Thunderbolt now have 90 BP

On the better side, Will-o-wisp has 85% accuracy now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:38:24 No.14463355 Report

Quoted By: >>14463452

>>14463278
These nerfs, yet Moonblast has 95 BP. How odd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:38:46 No.14463361 Report

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>All the major special moves got nerfed
>people still trying to argue that physical > special in pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:40:10 No.14463394 Report

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>Will-o-wisp has 85% accuracy now.

Good.

Goooood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:41:07 No.14463413 Report

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>>14463278
Preorder cancelled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:41:41 No.14463431 Report

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any changes to hurricane accuaracy?

it got a damage nerf, despite being useless without rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:42:47 No.14463452 Report

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>>14463355

Sludge Wave might still be 95BP(Sludge Bomb is 90BP), Game Freak might be thinking of making Poison/Fairy counterparts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:43:15 No.14463468 Report

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>>14463278

Nerfs are always lame, but I'm glad to see that it wasn't only the 120 BP ones that got nerfed, so there's still a reason to take them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:43:29 No.14463472 Report

Quoted By: >>14463503 >>14463565

If any thing is going to be nerfed, it should be Outrage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:44:44 No.14463503 Report

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>>14463472
The mere existance of fairy-type is enough of a nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:46:35 No.14463536 Report

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>>14463278
Fuck, I loved Low Sweep Ambipom.

Annoying that they nerfed if by increasing the power though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:47:48 No.14463565 Report

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>>14463472
people with think twice about possibly locking themselves into 2-3 turns with something that they cannot hit and is super effective against them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:50:19 No.14463623 Report

Quoted By: >>14463644 >>14463721 >>14463722 >>14463765

>Ice Beam gets nerfed to 90 BP
>Ice-types gain 60 BP Frost Breath

I actually lke this. So basically a water-type using an ice attack will deal about half damage compared to an ice type with comparable special attack.

Electric types got screwed big time though. 90 BP thunderbolt and 60 BP HP ice? Ouch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:51:18 No.14463644 Report

Quoted By: >>14463675 >>14463702 >>14463824

>>14463623
Electric still only has one weakness. It's not that bad off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:51:54 No.14463656 Report

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Nerfing moves is a REALLY smart move on gamefreaks part because it will mean less damage is being dealt without having to lower pokemons stats and god knows the utter rage that would cause. Even though its minor im glad they are at least showing that they know power creep is happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:52:57 No.14463675 Report

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>>14463644
That fighting weakness on teh new line as well
The pikachu clone is garbage so it doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:54:02 No.14463702 Report

Quoted By: >>14463776

>>14463644
Yeah but generally electric types have terrible learnsets, they need HP ice/grass for coverage because they rarely learn moves of those types otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:54:50 No.14463721 Report

Quoted By: >>14463810 >>14463843

>>14463623
I think maybe they realized that HP was a major design mistake. It took away their ability to balance pokes around a lack of type coverage and while we all liked that flexibility it broke one of the basic "rules" of the game; that pokes got the moves they go and thats it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:54:53 No.14463722 Report

Quoted By: >>14465132

>>14463623
Nice to see that GF finally acknowledges that water types have been crapping all over ice types all these years.
I just hope Kyurem gets frost breath in gen 6. He wasn't able to learn it in gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:56:44 No.14463765 Report

Quoted By: >>14463808

>>14463623
Wait what? Frost Breath has 60 BP now? Does it still crit 100% of the time? Jesus, that's like RBY Blizzard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:57:14 No.14463776 Report

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>>14463702
If only all electric types got the electivire/eelektross treatment, those guys learn basically everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:58:48 No.14463808 Report

Quoted By: >>14464516

>>14463765
Yeah, the tradeoff is that only ice types get it, unlike blizzard and ice beam. Which is great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:58:50 No.14463810 Report

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>>14463721

Am I the only who thinks they should retcon Secret Power to be a physical Hidden Power?

it'll help make physical attackers on equal ground as special ones, especially ones with shit movepools like Escavalier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 08:59:56 No.14463824 Report

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>>14463644
Immune to para now too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:00:49 No.14463843 Report

Quoted By: >>14463949

>>14463721
I don't really feel that restricting the type coverage of electric types balances them, they aren't exactly OP right now.

One weakness is neat, but it's to the most common (and arguably the best) offensive move in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:01:18 No.14463853 Report

Quoted By: >>14463869

>existance of fairy types
>grass types being immune to spore
>low sweep not being boosted by technician anymore

Poor Breelom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:02:04 No.14463869 Report

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>>14463853
He get's Power Up Punch, though. Probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:03:29 No.14463897 Report

Quoted By: >>14463989 >>14464006

>>14463824
So they can't get paralyzed by something like body slam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:06:10 No.14463949 Report

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>>14463843
I mean you can pull out all sorts of specific examples of pokes who it benefited and have shitty movepools, and it is unfortunate for them, but im talking from a design perspective. As a designer/developer trying to account for any poke having a 70 BP move of any type can make things constraining. Hell i wouldn't be surprised if thy beefed up some movepools because it is safer to do so now that you cant "cheat" on type coverage.

Then again GF doesnt have the best history of balancing properly so who knows heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:07:38 No.14463989 Report

Quoted By: >>14464015

>>14463897
yep

Did they ever specify that fire types cant be burned, or do we have confirmation of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:08:22 No.14464006 Report

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>>14463897
Yep. Full list of the mechanics changes at the bottom of this PDF. http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Type-Matchup_chart_EN.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:08:49 No.14464015 Report

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>>14463989
I'm pretty sure Fire Types couldn't be burned even before this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:31:09 No.14464413 Report

Quoted By: >>14464427 >>14464433 >>14464444 >>14464460 >>14464469 >>14464478

CLOSE COMBAT NOW LOWERS SPEED RATHER THEN DEF AND SDEF, JUST CONFIRMED ON STREAM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:31:55 No.14464427 Report

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>>14464413
Fuck you infernape.

[Y] ToryTerror 4227-1915-3134 (NL-EU)

[Y] ToryTerror 4227-1915-3134 (NL-EU) Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:32:10 No.14464433 Report

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>>14464413

Oh jesus fuck. pls nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:32:46 No.14464444 Report

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>>14464413
But doesn't that just make it Hammer Arm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:33:57 No.14464460 Report

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>>14464413
WHAT FACKIN STREAM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:34:27 No.14464469 Report

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>>14464413
This is an ebic trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:34:51 No.14464478 Report

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>>14464413
I'll need a picture or video or something. That seems fishy since Hammer Arm does the same thing. Was hammer arm changed to compensate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 09:36:18 No.14464516 Report

Quoted By: >>14465868 >>14466220

>>14463808
And if your opponent has Battle Armor...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 10:04:38 No.14465132 Report

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>>14463722
>Nice to see that GF finally acknowledges that water types have been crapping all over ice types all these years.
What makes you think this adjustment is going to change shit? Ice types go unused because they SUCK. This alone is not going to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 10:16:11 No.14465359 Report

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>>14463278

Breloom will just have to run force palm now. 60BP with chance of paralysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 10:45:20 No.14465868 Report

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>>14464516
SALAC BERRY ANGER POINT TAUROS CONFIRMED FOR BEST POKEMON

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2013 11:08:20 No.14466220 Report

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>>14464516
How many Pokémon get that though?
I can only think of Armaldo, and as much as I love it, it gets taken down pretty quickly.

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