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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 21:54:11 No.14514289 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14515399 >>14515453 >>14520803

>Fury Cutter's power has been doubled
>Roar/Whirlwind can't miss anymore
>Pin Missile is finally useful
>Several 20 BP utility moves had their damage buffed
Holy shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 21:55:45 No.14514337 Report

Quoted By: >>14515195 >>14517156

>Bubble is now 40 BP and hits all opponents
It's useful for a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:07:44 No.14514738 Report

Quoted By: >>14515156 >>14515165 >>14515546 >>14516243 >>14517533 >>14518578 >>14520949

>Electrify+Motor Drive/Volt Absorb/Lightning Rod
Broken as shit.
>Sticky Web as a new entry hazard
Great, more reliance on set-up hazards and making priority even MORE important.
>Pledge buffs
Still won't be used, I'd imagine, but at least they aren't total shit anymore.
>Hidden Power nerf
SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT
>WoW accuracy buff
Bulky physical mons get shat on again.
>Frost Breath now the strongest Ice-type move
>Storm throw just as strong as Close Combat
And so does defensive play in general. HYPER OFFENSE CONFIRMED AGAIN THANKS GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:19:23 No.14515075 Report

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>Strong shot buffed
>Now lowers speed by 2 stages
THAT'S HOW ONIX LOST GF KNEW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:21:45 No.14515156 Report

Quoted By: >>14515184

>>14514738

Crits were nerfed to x1.5 damage. They're only an effective 90BP now. Same as Ice Beam except it can miss and can't freeze.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:22:08 No.14515165 Report

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>>14514738
>mfw stallfags get what they deserve

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:22:36 No.14515184 Report

Quoted By: >>14515403

>>14515156
Serebii hasn't confirmed this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:22:52 No.14515195 Report

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>>14514337
It hits all? Shit, why did I get rid of it for Water Pulse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:26:16 No.14515313 Report

Quoted By: >>14515346

Weren't roar/whirlwind 100% accurate before?
Unless they can hit things using Fly/Dig/Dive now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:27:00 No.14515346 Report

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>>14515313
yes but they could miss from accuracy/evasion modifiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:28:28 No.14515389 Report

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We finally have an effective counter for evasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:28:50 No.14515399 Report

Quoted By: >>14515491

>>14514289

>Weather abilities nerfed to the ground, making Charizard Y useless in comparison to X
>Stealth Rock no longer stacks

What utter bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:28:56 No.14515403 Report

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>>14515184

It's Smogon confirmed.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:30:30 No.14515453 Report

Quoted By: >>14515684

>>14514289
Your Brawl hacks are shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:31:34 No.14515491 Report

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>>14515399

Don't you mean Spikes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:33:06 No.14515546 Report

Quoted By: >>14515609 >>14515640 >>14517533

>>14514738

>>Sticky Web as a new entry hazard

Please tell me it reduces the opponents speed on switch in or something and they didn't just give us a Bug type Spikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:34:33 No.14515609 Report

Quoted By: >>14515632

>>14515546
Yes, it reduces speed and does no damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:34:59 No.14515620 Report

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>Pin Missile is finally useful

How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:35:15 No.14515632 Report

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>>14515609
So priority will be on everything then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:35:26 No.14515640 Report

Quoted By: >>14515685 >>14517250 >>14517533 >>14519797

>>14515546
It does exactly that, which is shit. -1 speed means you can practically guarantee that you'll outspeed your opponent all the time. Say goodbye to revenge killing outside of priority moves, and you better believe that all "good" teams will have Sticky Web on them.
No buff for Rapid Spin, either. Seriously, what the fuck are you doing, GF?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:36:53 No.14515684 Report

Quoted By: >>14520732

>>14515453
Your brawl hacks are shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:36:53 No.14515685 Report

Quoted By: >>14515807

>>14515640
they are currently balancing their game around doubles, and have been doing so for 2-2and a half generations already

hazards are rarely used in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:40:35 No.14515807 Report

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>>14515685
They still won't use this shit in VGC because it only slows 2 mons at the cost of one of the first turns. It might be used in 6v6 doubles, but nobody fucking plays that. All it does is fuck with Singles even more.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:43:12 No.14515893 Report

Quoted By: >>14515973

How is Pin Missle useful now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:45:21 No.14515973 Report

Quoted By: >>14516173

>>14515893
now it's 25bp and 95 acc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:47:10 No.14516045 Report

Quoted By: >>14517474

>Hydro Pump is now 110p...

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:50:15 No.14516173 Report

Quoted By: >>14516580 >>14516605 >>14516985

>>14515973
SO this motherfucker just got a 95%ac 125 BP STAB move, eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:51:51 No.14516235 Report

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>mfw I thought Fury Cutter was doing more damage
>mfw Honedge rips through everyone now

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 22:52:12 No.14516243 Report

Quoted By: >>14516712

>>14514738
Stick Web? Don't you mean Silly Strings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:01:35 No.14516580 Report

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>>14516173
don't forget his mega HAS Skill Link

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:02:31 No.14516605 Report

Quoted By: >>14516683

>>14516173
he doesnt learn pin missile though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:04:51 No.14516683 Report

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>>14516605
obviously he does

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:05:49 No.14516712 Report

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>>14516243
No I mean goofy strands

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:14:07 No.14516985 Report

Quoted By: >>14517091

>>14516173
hes got a megahorn that wont miss and close combat that doesnt reduce his defense. Too bad mega pinsir will wreck his shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:17:13 No.14517091 Report

Quoted By: >>14517124

>>14516985
Yeah but Scizor or some other Mega should wreck Mega Pinsir. These things work in triangles, man, since Gen I starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:18:03 No.14517124 Report

Quoted By: >>14517215

>>14517091
Scizor wrecks everything, even without his mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:19:05 No.14517156 Report

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>>14514337
Bubble is now better than water gun in every way and I cant stand that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:20:36 No.14517215 Report

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>>14517124
Uh... Camerupt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:21:47 No.14517250 Report

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>>14515640

>Hazard that could have helped slower sweepers like Houndoom actually sweep for a change instead of being too slow for power creep
>Instead makes the game the Scizor and Mega Lucario Show: Featuring boosted Bullet Punches

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:28:45 No.14517474 Report

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>>14516045
and the accuracy is lower. same goes for the other "blasts" (blizzard, thunder, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:30:48 No.14517533 Report

Quoted By: >>14517695

>>14514738
>>14515546
>>14515640
Does Sticky Web work on Flying types and/or those w/ Levitate? If I Mega evolve a Gengar ill it get -1 spd once it loses Levitate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:35:31 No.14517695 Report

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>>14517533
>Does Sticky Web work on Flying types and/or those w/ Levitate?
Probably. It better, considering how fucking common Flying types have been in OU despite boltbeam and sr weaknesses. (Not that I play that shitty tier)
>If I Mega evolve a Gengar ill it get -1 spd once it loses Levitate?
Even if it didn't affect levitate users (why would it not?) it's never worked like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:35:43 No.14517700 Report

Quoted By: >>14517806 >>14517811

Why is no one talking about how a fully affectionate Pok?mon can dodge attacks randomly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:38:04 No.14517806 Report

Quoted By: >>14517892

>>14517700
Because nobody will use it competitively. It only affects casual matches between children using all-Legendary teams with 4 offensive moves each.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:38:06 No.14517811 Report

Quoted By: >>14517892

>>14517700
you can turn of amie effects in multi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:40:26 No.14517892 Report

Quoted By: >>14518176

>>14517806
>>14517811
Ah okay, I just assumed Gamefreak would be Gamefreak and try and put it in every match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2013 23:50:28 No.14518176 Report

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>>14517892
Nah, they didn't do it with the wonder launcher, they wouldn't do it with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 00:02:42 No.14518578 Report

Quoted By: >>14519713

>>14514738
>Electrify+Motor Drive/Volt Absorb/Lightning Rod

Can someone confirm if there is a Pokémon that has this combination?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 00:09:29 No.14518790 Report

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Ive had both roar and whirlwind miss on me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 00:33:24 No.14519602 Report

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Honedge just became my highest level due to swords dance+Fury cutter. HellI beat the The fighting Gym Leader with just that, If it wasnt for the 1/4 damage on the flying/fighting one I would have oneshotted her everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 00:36:32 No.14519713 Report

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>>14518578
it's likely given that everyone with those abilities are electric-types. manectric/jolteon/electivire are probably the best abusers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 00:39:18 No.14519797 Report

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>>14515640

>Seriously, what the fuck are you doing, GF?

Sending Galvantula straight up to OU, that's what.

This monstrous entry hazard is what Bug gets in exchange for Fairy resisting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 01:02:59 No.14520577 Report

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>>Sticky Web
More Trick Room then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 01:08:38 No.14520732 Report

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>>14515684
THAT AIN'T FALCO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 01:11:00 No.14520803 Report

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>>14514289
How was Pin Missile buffed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2013 01:14:31 No.14520949 Report

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>>14514738
>Great, more reliance on set-up hazards and making priority even MORE important.
maybe you'll start playing the only battle format that matters VGC

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