I see lots of you are getting sick of getting a bunch of route trash over Wonder Trade (even though it's not meant as a way of getting guaranteed good mons, but whatever).

So I propose a game. Choose any mon that you want. Say what mon you want to end with. See how many trades it takes for you to get that mon. Logic says not to pick one that's route trash or obvious but if you must, add difficulty by saying mon with correct Nature, or even Nature + Level.

Hard Mode: Name one that can only be gotten through Friend Safari.

Arceus Mode: Get a shiny.

FUUUU- Mode: Name a specific mon's Shiny.

Good luck, /vp/