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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 05:49:42 No.14668241 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14670202

>http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com

It's up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:02:09 No.14668725 Report

Quoted By: >>14669421

Thank you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:20:56 No.14669421 Report

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>>14668725
None of the beefier features are not currently up yet. That's coming out in December. But the base set of the site is all there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:22:05 No.14669455 Report

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Where is ##le stickyman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:34:23 No.14669904 Report

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bump

Danny: 0001-3566-0901

Danny: 0001-3566-0901 Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:36:05 No.14669961 Report

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dreamworld is avalible for x and y/

Danny: 0001-3566-0901

Danny: 0001-3566-0901 Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:38:30 No.14670047 Report

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er / is supposed to be ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:40:43 No.14670111 Report

Quoted By: >>14670214

So what can you do with this shit? The manual doesn't say anything useful about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:44:05 No.14670202 Report

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>>14668241
Is there a way I can find out where the medals are I haven't unlocked yet? Rare Candy as the best thing in the mileage store is a huegg let down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:44:28 No.14670214 Report

Quoted By: >>14670333 >>14671289

>>14670111

At the moment the only real feature is the pokemile club, you generate miles by walking around/trading in the game and can then use those points to buy stuff at the website and then transfer those items to the game. Rare candies, potions etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:44:49 No.14670227 Report

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http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/I-447-1342-B/profile

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:44:58 No.14670232 Report

Quoted By: >>14670478

>Wonder Trade history is shown to all PGL users

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. OH WOW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:45:31 No.14670255 Report

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can you switch the points from BW DW over yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:47:31 No.14670333 Report

Quoted By: >>14670386

>>14670214

Where can you see your pokemiles in the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:49:00 No.14670386 Report

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>>14670333
Trainer card, IIRC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:50:07 No.14670429 Report

Quoted By: >>14670474

>Looking at Medals
>Trash Master
>A Medal for curiosity seekers who checked trash cans even though they knew they were empty.
One of these days I'll find an item in there!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:50:47 No.14670454 Report

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I'm sorry, what? I live in the U.S. What gives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:51:02 No.14670459 Report

Quoted By: >>14670712 >>14671511

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/gp/pokecen/birthday/?ep002=news

Holy shit japs get a free eeveelution for birthdays

I wonder if someone would leak the program that gives out the free eevees

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:51:31 No.14670474 Report

Quoted By: >>14670529 >>14670581 >>14670630 >>14676531

>>14670429

I think in the whole series history there was only like one trashcan that actually had something in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:51:39 No.14670478 Report

Quoted By: >>14670536

>>14670232
Where is this at? my autism is curious

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:52:53 No.14670522 Report

Quoted By: >>14677211 >>14678646

God damnit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:52:58 No.14670529 Report

Quoted By: >>14670630 >>14676297

>>14670474
red and blue, where you get the leftovers iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:53:05 No.14670536 Report

Quoted By: >>14670603 >>14670616

>>14670478
Check your profile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:54:33 No.14670581 Report

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>>14670474
you find rotom in a trash can from what I've heard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:54:31 No.14670582 Report

Quoted By: >>14670678 >>14670858 >>14679429

Anyone else having trouble opening this on Firefox? It just shows a blank page for me on it while it displays perfectly fine on Internet Explorer.

Boshean 3539-9650-1751

Boshean 3539-9650-1751 Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:54:57 No.14670603 Report

Quoted By: >>14670621

>>14670536

Here is my GTS profile. http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/T-550-8554-B/gts

>dat trade

God i love japs sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:55:27 No.14670616 Report

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>>14670536
I did, all I can see is my GTS history, not my Wonder Trade history

Unless I'm even more retarded than I thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:55:32 No.14670621 Report

Quoted By: >>14670687

>>14670603
>having everything set to private

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:55:44 No.14670630 Report

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>>14670474
>>14670529
There's a few berries in the SS Anne trash cans in FRLG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:56:45 No.14670667 Report

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I got past the maintenance page by allowing with noscript and disabling adblock on 3ds.pokemon-gl.com if anyones stuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:57:07 No.14670678 Report

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>>14670582
Blank, white page for me too in FF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:57:14 No.14670686 Report

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>A consolation Medal for Trainers who made the cute mistake of using noneffective moves.
Pokemon-sama called me cute...

Boshean 3539-9650-1751

Boshean 3539-9650-1751 Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:57:21 No.14670687 Report

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>>14670621

My bad. I must have not clicked save. should be up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:57:57 No.14670710 Report

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I can't log in. It says my information is processing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 06:58:03 No.14670712 Report

Quoted By: >>14670780 >>14670880

>>14670459
You have to go to a Pokemon Center to claim the stuff though. That means sad importers like myself don't get jack shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:00:45 No.14670778 Report

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>A Medal commemorating battles that earned 1,000,000 Exp. Points in a day.

Holy fuck. I didn't even realize I did this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:00:56 No.14670780 Report

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>>14670712
I know which means they use a 3DS cart or a computer program to give out the free pokemon

If it was leaked it would be pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:01:11 No.14670794 Report

Quoted By: >>14670887

Am I the only one being told the site is down for maintenance?

Taerune - 2535 4525 9123

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Taerune - 2535 4525 9123 Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:03:06 No.14670852 Report

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I'm logged into the site fine, and I've got my game sync ID and etc., but when I try to sync it, it says "Game Sync ended because the server is busy. Please try again later"

I want to upload my trainer pics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:03:23 No.14670858 Report

Quoted By: >>14670895

>>14670582
I'm getting a white page on Chrome

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:03:53 No.14670880 Report

Quoted By: >>14670954 >>14671075

>>14670712
If someone leaks the SSID you might be able to use it by renaming your router to that. Didn't work with the 7-Eleven items in AC:NL though, so I'm not sure if it will work with this.

JP 3DS+JP game still required though.

Eclair 2578-3155-5879

Eclair 2578-3155-5879 Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:03:58 No.14670887 Report

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>>14670794
no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:04:20 No.14670895 Report

Quoted By: >>14670923 >>14670929 >>14670938

>>14670858
>I'm getting a white page on Chrome
You have to turn adblock plus off for the site. At least that was why I was getting a white page in chrome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:05:19 No.14670923 Report

Quoted By: >>14670990

>>14670895
I use chrome with adblock up and it loads fine.

Boshean 3539-9650-1751

Boshean 3539-9650-1751 Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:05:26 No.14670929 Report

Quoted By: >>14670990

>>14670895

I have adblock on and it's working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:05:46 No.14670938 Report

Quoted By: >>14670990

>>14670895
What the fuck are people doing that ABP is doing that? You're not the only one that's said that. I still have mine up and it's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:06:17 No.14670954 Report

Quoted By: >>14671075

>>14670880
>JP game

Aren't all cartridges around the world identical and not region-locked?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:07:21 No.14670990 Report

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>>14670923
>I use chrome with adblock up and it loads fine.
>>14670929
>I have adblock on and it's working.
>>14670938
>What the fuck are people doing that ABP is doing that? You're not the only one that's said that. I still have mine up and it's fine.
I'm obviously subscribed to different block lists than you. I just tested, I get a white page when adblock is enabled. When I disable adblock for the site it works fine. I'm subscribed to 6 block lists. I am not using noscript.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:07:22 No.14670992 Report

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it says it's down for maintenance?

Boshean 3539-9650-1751

Boshean 3539-9650-1751 Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:07:39 No.14670998 Report

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Trash Master A Medal for curiosity seekers who checked trash cans even though they knew they were empty.

HA. this entertains me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:10:33 No.14671075 Report

Quoted By: >>14671159

>>14670880
It's not going to work. Especially since you have to present government ID proving it's your birthday to gain access to the DLC.

>>14670954
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:13:01 No.14671159 Report

Quoted By: >>14671246

>>14671075
Wow, they seem pretty serious about these Eeveelutions. Anything special about them, like the Breakout Eeveelutions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:15:34 No.14671246 Report

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>>14671159
There are four presents total. The eeveelution is just one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:17:25 No.14671289 Report

Quoted By: >>14671499

>>14670214
However, at this point, the only items available are the exact same items the man in the Lumiose Pokemon Center is selling.

Coupled with the connection problems Game Sync is currently experiencing ("The server's too busy!), thereby preventing you from transferring your purchased items online, there's no real reason to transfer anything to the site just yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:25:03 No.14671499 Report

Quoted By: >>14671569

>>14671289
Except they are half price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:25:23 No.14671511 Report

Quoted By: >>14671564 >>14671607

>>14670459
BULLSHIT.

It was my birthday yesterday and the US versions have no such features.

The Pokemon Centre will wish you happy birthday, but you don't get anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:27:07 No.14671564 Report

Quoted By: >>14671602

>>14671511
you're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:27:13 No.14671569 Report

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>>14671499
Not him but thanks for that, wouldn't have noticed otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:28:19 No.14671602 Report

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>>14671564
Sorry, that came out the wrong way. Obviously it's legit, since the link is the official site.

What I meant is that it's BULLSHIT that other countries don't get the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:28:35 No.14671607 Report

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>>14671511
It's the Pokemon Center store, not the ingame one. So maybe NYC will do something similar.

Jouten - 2535 3644 5838

Jouten - 2535 3644 5838 Wed 16 Oct 2013 07:31:23 No.14671684 Report

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>Your member information is currently being processed. Please come back later.
>If this message continues to appear after a few hours, please contact customer service.

This was happening BEFORE it went down.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 08:44:45 No.14673485 Report

Quoted By: >>14673673 >>14674182

Glad I didn't spend my miles while they could not sync.

Online prices are half that ingame.

FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk

FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk Wed 16 Oct 2013 08:52:58 No.14673673 Report

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>>14673485
I noticed that as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 09:13:27 No.14674182 Report

Quoted By: >>14676406

>>14673485
>heart scale
Do want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 09:16:27 No.14674257 Report

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I cant do anything here yet since i dont have the games yet. I was hoping we could some demo version thing that BW had

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 10:56:19 No.14676283 Report

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So it even keeps track of minor shit like this? Neat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 10:57:20 No.14676297 Report

Quoted By: >>14676372

>>14670529
>red and blue
>leftovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 10:59:26 No.14676335 Report

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where do i find all my Wonder trades?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:01:13 No.14676372 Report

Quoted By: >>14676406

>>14676297
You get Leftovers in Red in Blue, the wild Snorlax have them, you cant use them till you send them over to G&S

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:03:41 No.14676406 Report

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>>14674182
You can just teach a mon Thief and go old rod fishing right outside of almost any town and farm them pretty easily.

>>14676372
He's talking about the garbage can in SS Anne.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:05:39 No.14676458 Report

Quoted By: >>14676507 >>14676639 >>14676917

http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/O-040-4504-G/medal/

Post dem medals, /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:08:12 No.14676507 Report

Quoted By: >>14676519

>>14676458
>This information cannot be viewed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:08:47 No.14676519 Report

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>>14676507

Should be open to everybody, that's annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:09:24 No.14676531 Report

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>>14670474
recycle tm i think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:13:51 No.14676624 Report

Quoted By: >>14676720

Does the Mileage thing not work for anyone else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:14:52 No.14676639 Report

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>>14676458
3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/R-033-3976-W/medal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:19:08 No.14676720 Report

Quoted By: >>14676727

>>14676624

Define "not work"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:19:31 No.14676727 Report

Quoted By: >>14676791

>>14676720
It shows 0 miles when I actually have 3000

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:22:35 No.14676791 Report

Quoted By: >>14676848

>>14676727
Make sure you update Game Sync.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:23:57 No.14676821 Report

Quoted By: >>14676830

>Your member information is currently being processed. Please come back later.
are you fucking kidding me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:24:23 No.14676829 Report

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>Game Sync ended because the server is busy. Please try again later.
Kill me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:24:28 No.14676830 Report

Quoted By:

>>14676821
You can't really do all that much right now anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:25:24 No.14676848 Report

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>>14676791
Shit, thanks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:29:34 No.14676917 Report

Quoted By: >>14676970

>>14676458
>http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/O-040-4504-G/medal/
It's viewable, you just need to be registered and logged I think. I can see them just fine.

Also, here's my paltry sum so far.
ffs this game is making me spend forever on little things instead of focusing on the story...

http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/W-387-4854-Z/medal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:32:39 No.14676970 Report

Quoted By: >>14677136

>>14676917
You have your profile set to private.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:32:55 No.14676978 Report

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Jesus fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:37:22 No.14677049 Report

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http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/L-390-8033-W/timeline

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:41:32 No.14677136 Report

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>>14676970
>http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/W-387-4854-Z/medal

Fixed. Sorry about that. I thought I had set it to public, but then I noticed you have to go into the privacy settings and manually do it for each thing. Herp derp.

FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk

FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:43:52 No.14677170 Report

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>50 medals
http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/K-261-0079-N/medal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:46:37 No.14677211 Report

Quoted By: >>14678646

>>14670522
I am still getting this too. Bullshit.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 11:47:40 No.14677225 Report

Quoted By: >>14677751

Aw...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:07:47 No.14677612 Report

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Does anyone know how to remove a game sync code I started a new game and I want to register that one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:10:23 No.14677662 Report

Quoted By: >>14677711

Anyone figured out how to claim the items from the Miles shop? Bought 5 heartscales, no idea how to claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:12:57 No.14677711 Report

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>>14677662
You have to do game sync again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:13:07 No.14677719 Report

Quoted By:

Can you get Pokemons with hidden abilities yet from GL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:14:12 No.14677751 Report

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>>14677225
How do you get to this for x/y? I love Dreamworld.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:16:49 No.14677800 Report

Quoted By: >>14677817

Cant seem to add my game card, can you have both a black 2 and a pokemahn y on the same account, or do i have to create a new?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:17:39 No.14677817 Report

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>>14677800
You can.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:17:58 No.14677827 Report

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I thought Dream World was the dumbest, most boring thing. Needing to go on your computer to play Pokémon.

I hope that isn't this game's main online feature like it was with Gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:19:00 No.14677847 Report

Quoted By: >>14678104

Where's my free 10 000 pokemiles for having over 100 000 DW points in gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:24:20 No.14677958 Report

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>Your member information is currently being processed. Please come back later.
>If this message continues to appear after a few hours, please contact customer service.

I wonder if 96 hours constitutes "a few".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:31:05 No.14678104 Report

Quoted By: >>14682953

>>14677847
You'll get them in January, apparently. On the plus side, you seem to have time to get to 200,000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:33:02 No.14678149 Report

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>Game Sync ended because the server is busy. Please try again later.
;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:40:06 No.14678321 Report

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Wonder Trade has already given me potentially 600 or so Rare Candy, this shit is a gold mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:42:57 No.14678390 Report

Quoted By:

>54 Medals
http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/B-372-2299-F/medal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:52:32 No.14678646 Report

Quoted By:

>>14670522
>>14677211

Go on Pokemon.com, log in and change your username. You'll be able to log in, then.

I had the same problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:00:23 No.14678823 Report

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It says it's still under maintenance for me, am I missing something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:21:48 No.14679287 Report

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>Game Sync ended because the server is busy. Please try again later.

Welp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:27:55 No.14679429 Report

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>>14670582
Yeah, but it loaded after a few seconds. Firefox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:29:42 No.14679472 Report

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Fuck, timeline is pretty cool

Esker [0104 - 0325 - 2224]

Esker [0104 - 0325 - 2224] Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:34:05 No.14679582 Report

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Some shit has already taken my screen name. What a cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:41:35 No.14679762 Report

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Lv. 1 Bulbasaur -> Duskull
Lv. 1 Bulbasaur -> Larvesta
Female Mawile -> Japanese Ditto
Male Mawile -> Noibat
Female Mawile -> Rotom

Mawile breeding seems to be a fucking gold mine as of now. I'm so happy with my trades.

FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk

FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:59:17 No.14680201 Report

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The hell, game sync'd for me but now I cannot log in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 14:05:28 No.14680356 Report

Quoted By: >>14680402

>• Players may use only newly discovered Pokémon from the Kalos region (excluding some Legendary Pokémon)

Why GF?

Kuhni 3711 7984 6081 (IGN: Hibiki)

Kuhni 3711 7984 6081 (IGN: Hibiki) Wed 16 Oct 2013 14:07:52 No.14680402 Report

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>>14680356
This only applies to Special game mode
Special is another ladder that was added, with specific rules each Season. This Season's Special ladder only allows any of the new Kalos Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 15:35:33 No.14682953 Report

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>>14678104
I just wish the DW hack would work for me

It keeps giving me an error when I try to run it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 15:58:15 No.14683657 Report

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Game sync'd but I apparently have done no wonder trades?

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