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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:20:03 No.14677878 View View Reply Original Report

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hey /vp.

Decided I wanted to raise a proper Agieslash.

So I want to breed some.

Just want to know your opinions on what nature It should have.

Also how does passing on natures work now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:22:12 No.14677923 Report

Quoted By: >>14677950

Everstone seems to grant a 100% chance to pass down nature, I have a box full of modest Noibats. No idea on what Aegislash needs, haven't really bothered with them yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:23:56 No.14677950 Report

Quoted By: >>14677973

>>14677923
>Everstone seems to grant a 100% chance to pass down nature

cool thanks.

I think he should be relaxed.
Lowers speed, buffs defense.

But I wanted other opinions.

buddy 4656-6560-5788

buddy 4656-6560-5788 Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:25:03 No.14677973 Report

Quoted By: >>14677988

>>14677950
i'm really liking adamant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:26:08 No.14677988 Report

Quoted By: >>14678029 >>14678039

>>14677973
Wouldn't that also lower his SPdef though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:26:46 No.14678001 Report

Quoted By: >>14678147 >>14678178 >>14678377

Brave. (+attack, -speed)

Also, what is better for Aegislash : Shadow Sneak or Shadow Claw ?

buddy 4656-6560-5788

buddy 4656-6560-5788 Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:27:58 No.14678029 Report

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>>14677988
sp attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:28:31 No.14678039 Report

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>>14677988
It raises atk, lowers sp. atk. His physical movepool is far better than his special one so it's a decent nature overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:32:34 No.14678141 Report

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besides the nature.

No real egg moves or anything that he needs.

Should be easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:32:54 No.14678147 Report

Quoted By: >>14678171

>>14678001
With swords dance, shadow sneak (priority meaning you can't take any hit and must KO the oponent)

Without swords dance, shadow claw (you can take the hit with shield forme and hit hard without setup)

They are both good options

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:33:52 No.14678167 Report

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My Aegislash : Relaxed nature
-King's shiled
-Shadow claw
-Sacred Sword
-Swords Dance

Ev's 252 Hp

Should i put 252 into attack or def or Sp.def?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:34:05 No.14678171 Report

Quoted By: >>14678231 >>14678318 >>14678455

>>14678147
Can't I use Sword Dance and Shadow Claw ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:34:21 No.14678178 Report

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>>14678001
Shadow Sneak. You need that guaranteed attack to go first if you find yourself in a bind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:36:31 No.14678231 Report

Quoted By: >>14678431

>>14678171

You can but there's no point.

Swords Dance + Sneak will give you an 80 damage ghost move with Priority, thereby nullifying any issues with Aegislash's speed.

Shadow Claw is really only if you need coverage, but with Sacred Sword and Shadow Sneak you really don't need it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:40:03 No.14678318 Report

Quoted By: >>14678431

>>14678171
You can but Swords Dance+priority is a nice combo (see Scizor)

And for a slow and strong neutral hit you have the superior Iron Head

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:42:19 No.14678377 Report

Quoted By: >>14678431

>>14678001
Definitely Shadow Sneak. It gives it priority and can be set up pretty easily with Sword Dance thanks to Aegislash's Shield Mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:44:35 No.14678431 Report

Quoted By: >>14678584 >>14678611

>>14678231
>>14678318
>>14678377
Ok thanks. And what do you recommend for his 4th move, Sacred Sword or Iron Head ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:45:29 No.14678455 Report

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>>14678171
You could, but his defences are complete shit when he's in sword form, so really you need a priority move to make up for his lack of speed. If you're running shadow claw, you'd be better off running shadow sneak as well, but that means wasting a move slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:50:19 No.14678584 Report

Quoted By: >>14678756

>>14678431
Iron Head for stronger STAB
Sacred Sword for great coverage

I'm considering dumping King's Shield in favor of 3 attack moves+swords dance

Aegislash gets back to shield form when you switch it out right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:51:29 No.14678611 Report

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>>14678431
Sacred Sword. Ghost + Fighting offenses aren't resisted by much. Also, Fighting has better SEs than Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 12:57:06 No.14678756 Report

Quoted By: >>14678947 >>14679099

>>14678584
Yes, it returns to shield stance.
I find Sacred Sword + Shadow Sneak too good to be true. I find King's Shield an absolute necessity. Say you set up two Sword Dances, kill something with Shadow Sneak and suddenly a Normal or Dark type switches in that could take the hit and KO you back. You need King's Shield to get back into shield stance so you can take a hit and go sword dance after taking the hit to KO them back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:01:36 No.14678842 Report

Quoted By: >>14678885

Where should I invest EVs with a brave nature? Max out attack and HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:03:09 No.14678885 Report

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>>14678842
Yeah, HP helps taking hits on both sides while ATK allows maximum damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:03:37 No.14678894 Report

Quoted By: >>14679057

Here's Doublade's move list:
Lv<11 - Tackle-Prevo
Lv<11 - Swords Dance-Prevo
Lv<11 - Fury Cutter-Prevo
Lv<11 - Metal Sound-Prevo
Lv13 - Pursuit-Prevo
Lv18 - Autotomize-Prevo
Lv20 - Shadow Sneak-Prevo
Lv22 - Aerial Ace-Prevo
Lv26 - Retaliate-Prevo
Lv32 - Iron Defense-Prevo
Lv35 - Night Slash-Prevo
Lv45 - Iron Head
Lv51 - Sacred Sword

TM & HM Compatibility
TM17 - Protect
TM27 - Return
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM54 - False Swipe
TM65 - Shadow Claw
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM94 - Rock Smash
TM - Brick Break
HM - Cut

If you want him to learn King's Shield evolve him after learning Sacred Sword and go to the move relearner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:05:05 No.14678922 Report

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Does Honedge learn Sacred Sword too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:06:04 No.14678947 Report

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>>14678756
Huh I don't think Aegislash can take that many hits even in shield forme, special attackers will murder it with if it tries to pull another swords dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:11:03 No.14679057 Report

Quoted By: >>14679154

>>14678894
so aegislash doesn't learn sacred sword? fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:13:04 No.14679099 Report

Quoted By: >>14679120 >>14679127

>>14678756
>Say you set up two Sword Dances, kill something with Shadow Sneak and suddenly a Normal or Dark type switches in that could take the hit and KO you back
Problem with your theory is that its speed is complete shit in your setup. You wouldn't be able to outspeed most Pokemon to use King's Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:14:14 No.14679120 Report

Quoted By: >>14679155

>>14679099

Kings Shield has a +4 priority to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:14:29 No.14679127 Report

Quoted By: >>14679155

>>14679099
King's Shield has +4 priority, like protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:15:41 No.14679154 Report

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>>14679057
It's a stone evo, they rarely (never?) learn new moves by level

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:15:55 No.14679155 Report

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>>14679120
>>14679127
Shit, really? Guess I'm Heart Scaleing it back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:22:32 No.14679302 Report

Quoted By: >>14679413

So brave nature is better than adamant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 13:27:22 No.14679413 Report

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>>14679302
yea.

Why would you lower your special attack over your speed?

You never want to outspeed someone.

And lower SPAttack makes your Sp Def lower as well.

Though that is less important.

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