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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:15:30 No.14690823 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14690849

What's a good nature and EV spread for mawile? I want to train one since she's so adorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:16:30 No.14690849 Report

Quoted By: >>14690885

>>14690823
>she

You faggots really need to stop with this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:17:30 No.14690885 Report

Quoted By:

>>14690849

>it is so adorable

there fixed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:17:40 No.14690890 Report

Quoted By:

adamant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:17:51 No.14690901 Report

Quoted By: >>14690956

Adamant
Max Attack
Max Def
Watch out for Fire. Maybe Max Sp. Def if Mega.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:18:13 No.14690918 Report

Quoted By: >>14690956 >>14691065

>Nature
Adamant or Careful
>EV Spread
252HP/252ATK/6SP.Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:19:07 No.14690956 Report

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>>14690901
>>14690918
Thanks. I'll breed one like that then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:20:07 No.14690991 Report

Quoted By: >>14691029 >>14691274 >>14691390 >>14696428

I can give you an Adamant one, I've been breeding them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:20:52 No.14691029 Report

Quoted By: >>14691239

>>14690991
Well, anything you want for it? I'm playing Y version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:21:53 No.14691065 Report

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>>14690918
>Careful
Fuck yes the one I used for my playthrough is Careful. Got good attack IVs as well.

Josh 2165-5980-3095

Josh 2165-5980-3095 Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:26:38 No.14691239 Report

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>>14691029
Nope. Any exclusive would be nice but it doesn't really matter. Add me if you want it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:27:29 No.14691274 Report

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>>14690991
I've got a careful one, thanks for the offer!

Nelo: 0774-4272-8190

Nelo: 0774-4272-8190 Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:30:10 No.14691390 Report

Quoted By: >>14691482

>>14690991
Can I have one? I can't find anyone in the wild.

Josh 2165-5980-3095

Josh 2165-5980-3095 Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:32:04 No.14691482 Report

Quoted By: >>14691753

>>14691390
Yep I'll add you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:32:29 No.14691506 Report

Quoted By: >>14691670 >>14691753

what attacks are good to go with this ev spread and nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:36:19 No.14691670 Report

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>>14691506
and yes, I'm pretty new to serious pokemon playing.

Nelo: 0774-4272-8190

Nelo: 0774-4272-8190 Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:38:19 No.14691753 Report

Quoted By: >>14691884 >>14691954

>>14691506
Iron Head
Sucker Punch
Swords Dance
Some Fairy-type attack maybe?

>>14691482
Thank you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:41:12 No.14691884 Report

Quoted By: >>14694085

>>14691753
thanks for the help

Is there any site with the gen VI movesets already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 19:42:43 No.14691954 Report

Quoted By: >>14697391

>>14691753
Play rough is mawile's fairy move. 90 bp with a 10% chance of reducing the target's attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:29:19 No.14694085 Report

Quoted By: >>14694902

>>14691884
I've read that it has the same move set as BW2, plus some fairy moves.
If you have access to the move relearner, head over there and it can learn Iron Head and Play Rough right off the bat.
A side note, these moves cannot be bred on offspring

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:42:46 No.14694689 Report

Quoted By: >>14695415

Foul Play is comedy gold with Huge Power.
-Foul Play
-Pursuit
-Pain Split
-Toxic/whatever you want
It's a fun set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:47:38 No.14694902 Report

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>>14694085
Do you have the move tutor? Can you still teach pain split in XY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:57:48 No.14695415 Report

Quoted By: >>14695523 >>14695539

>>14694689
im sorry im sort of new at this, why use foul play with that boosted attack stat? is it so you can invest all the EVs in defence or is it because most other pokemon have a bigger attack stat and the boost still applies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:59:55 No.14695523 Report

Quoted By: >>14695600

>>14695415
You make a tanky mawile with maxed HP and defense to take hits and use foul play to make up for the lack of attack, which takes the opposing pokemon's attack stat and doubles it for the calc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:00:14 No.14695539 Report

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>>14695415
Because it uses the opponents attack stat and doubles it thanks to Huge Power. Basically it makes any sweeper that can't kill it explode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:01:39 No.14695600 Report

Quoted By: >>14695790

>>14695523
damn i spent ages super training it to have equal EVs in attack hp defence and spdef, i guess im doing it wrong? ah well ill sort it out post game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:05:27 No.14695790 Report

Quoted By: >>14695966 >>14696029

>>14695600
I don't really like the foul play strategy myself, I was just explaining it. Mine's 252 HP/252 ATK/4 SpD which is probably the best spread you can do for an offensive one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:08:45 No.14695966 Report

Quoted By: >>14696134

>>14695790
IIRC Mega Mawile has one of the best attack stats in the whole game, you'd be a fool to not use that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:10:15 No.14696029 Report

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>>14695790
well thanks anyway, i generally prefer to
play defensive so ill probably use a modified foul play strategy, plus i got a relaxed nature on a shiny first try, it doesn't really get much better than that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:12:09 No.14696134 Report

Quoted By: >>14696328 >>14696448 >>14696652

>>14695966
the thing is its normal stat isnt that great and its only good because of the huge power boost, im pretty sure huge power still factors into damage calculation when you use foul play so it just depends on the pokemon your facing really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:16:01 No.14696328 Report

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>>14696134
Imagine crumpling something like Kyu-B with it's own attack stat.

Joe 2766-8654-5294

Joe 2766-8654-5294 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:17:58 No.14696428 Report

Quoted By:

>>14690991

Could I have one with intimidate if you have any?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:18:28 No.14696448 Report

Quoted By: >>14696542 >>14696702

>>14696134
It's 110 IIRC (so way over 220 since huge power also doubles nature, IVs and EVs), and Foul Play would only work against a physical sweeper
There's also the intimidate that Mawile may have triggered before turning Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:20:34 No.14696542 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696448
Huge Power works with it's base stats so Foul Play isn't affected by Intimidate.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:20:36 No.14696545 Report

Quoted By: >>14696689 >>14696735 >>14697055

Best Mawile Set is:

Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Iron Head
Play Rough

Sweepin' Bitches everyday

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:23:08 No.14696652 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696134

It doesn't really need Foul Play
It has a good Atk Stat that has a base of 120 something in Mega Form. Careful Nature with ATK Evs makes it fairly tanky especially with its typing. Give it Swords Dance/Sucker Punch and its a real beast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:23:52 No.14696689 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696545
Anyone know if mawile can still get pain split from xy tutors? You could use it for recovery on a fresh enemy then pick them off with sucker punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:24:11 No.14696702 Report

Quoted By: >>14696796 >>14696808 >>14696926

>>14696448
according to smogon its base attack is 85 which, is great at 170 after huge power but it could be significantly better

plus mawile is a physical defensive pokemon so your only really going to be using it against physical attackers, basically its just very specialized for its role (and pain split really doesnt hurt its potential either)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:25:02 No.14696735 Report

Quoted By: >>14696815

>>14696545
When does she get Swords Dance, my current setup is the same but with Iron Defence instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:26:44 No.14696796 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696702
Its base attack gets boosted when it mega evolves (Huge power aside)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:26:57 No.14696808 Report

Quoted By: >>14696998

>>14696702
Mega Mawile has 105 for its attack stat, not 85.

Also that's not how Huge Power works you dimbis.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:27:05 No.14696815 Report

Quoted By: >>14697000 >>14697075

>>14696735

TM is in the Lumiose pokemart

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:29:00 No.14696926 Report

Quoted By: >>14697072

>>14696702

Thats Mawile's base attack. Mega Mawile has 105 base attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:30:27 No.14696998 Report

Quoted By: >>14697172

>>14696808
oh really? i was under the impression that the only attack boost it got was thanks to huge power, and i know huge power doesnt double the base stat but it was just and easy example

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:30:28 No.14697000 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696815
Which one? They're are like three pokecenters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:31:29 No.14697055 Report

Quoted By: >>14697133 >>14697172

>>14696545

Is play rough naturally learned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:31:49 No.14697072 Report

Quoted By: >>14697172 >>14697220 >>14697283

>>14696926
do you know the full base stats? im curious to see how much defence is increases

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:31:49 No.14697075 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696815

I'm pretty sure it's the South Boulevard one, and if it's not, only one of them has the TM salesman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:32:10 No.14697093 Report

Quoted By:

Does Mega Mawile really need swords dance? With huge power her attack is already astronomical, like well above 700. Swords Dance seems like overkill, especially when the least of Mega Mawiles problems is doing enough damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:33:05 No.14697133 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697055
Yes, at a late level. You can get it early with a Heart Scale.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:33:42 No.14697172 Report

Quoted By: >>14697292

>>14697055

yea

>>14696998

my Mawile w/ Huge Power has something like 500atk

>>14697072

50/105/125/55/95/50

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:34:39 No.14697220 Report

Quoted By: >>14697286

>>14697072
50/135/105 defenses IIRC
Mega Mawile's biggest flaw is dat shitty HP
Also her speed is really low so she's ideal for a trickroom party

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:35:59 No.14697283 Report

Quoted By: >>14697439

>>14697072

Smogon has them listed as:
>Base 50/105/125/55/95/50

So the defense increases are significant, but her HP and Speed are still awful. Her offensive capability is ridiculous but shes doing to have serious problems utilizing it unless you use Trick Room or lean heavily on Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:36:06 No.14697286 Report

Quoted By: >>14697383

>>14697220
>Mega Mawile's biggest flaw is dat shitty HP
Pain split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:36:14 No.14697292 Report

Quoted By: >>14697420

>>14697172
damn, was gonna make it mixed defensive but looks like its gonna be purely physical, not that im complaining with dragalge on backup duty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:38:06 No.14697383 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697286
Oh, nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:38:16 No.14697391 Report

Quoted By: >>14697430

>>14691954
do you need to breed for play rough or does it need to be relearned?

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:38:48 No.14697420 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697292

I just gave it a careful nature and it turned out pretty decent Sp. Def. It usually only needs to tank 1 hit to OHKO anyways with it's monster Atk, and thats if not using Sucker Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:39:10 No.14697430 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697391
Move relearner or late level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:39:21 No.14697439 Report

Quoted By: >>14697523 >>14697640

>>14697283
everyone seems to be going on about it being offensive, but with that speed couldnt it play heavy hitting defensive as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:40:15 No.14697477 Report

Quoted By: >>14697572 >>14697640

Is she a solid lead for setting up Party Pebbles or is it too much of a 'waste' to not go mega-offense with her Evo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:41:17 No.14697523 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697439
Mega Mawile is at its best in Doubles in a trickroom party in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:42:15 No.14697572 Report

Quoted By: >>14697704

>>14697477
id say yeah, mawiles stats aren't really usable without its mega imo (they've worked for me but im only at the 3rd gym and im a bit overleveled)
>tfw my friend loaned me mawilnite just after the second gym

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:43:52 No.14697640 Report

Quoted By: >>14698010

>>14697477

She's ok at it. There's far better options though.

>>14697439

Sucker Punch is a good option for her, if you wanted to make her mega-offense you'd prob want a trick room in doubles or maybe Ninjask Baton Passer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:43:57 No.14697646 Report

Quoted By: >>14697703

Does Mawile still get Iron Head and Sucker Punch by level up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:45:16 No.14697703 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697646
Yes.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:45:16 No.14697704 Report

Quoted By:

>>14697572

I actually used Mawile throughout the whole game. W/out Mega I used her to sweep literally everyone of the Champ's pokemon. Course, it is AI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:51:10 No.14698010 Report

Quoted By: >>14698180

>>14697640
thats the opposite of what i want to do though, i was thinking invest in def and HP and have her be a tricky tank, foul play, sucker punch, pain split, stuff like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:52:32 No.14698074 Report

Quoted By:

Mawile @Mawlite
Careful/Impish
252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
Substitute
Iron Head
Play Rough
Sucker Punch

Is what I'm currently running

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:54:44 No.14698180 Report

Quoted By: >>14698376

>>14698010

That works too but I don't think you really need Foul Play. Her Atk. Is good in Mega-Form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:58:29 No.14698376 Report

Quoted By: >>14698518

>>14698180
could just substitute it for crunch or play rough for coverage, idk its all up in the air at the moment anyway

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:01:44 No.14698518 Report

Quoted By: >>14698670

>>14698376

I still recommend Swords Dance/IronHead/PlayRough/Sucker Punch

Its HP just kinda prevents it from being a very effective tank. Theres a good amount of moves like Fire Blast and Earthquake that can 2HKO it. I think it's better to use its typing and defenses to take those couple hits and just wreck everything. The two immunities and 11 resistances make Mega-Mawile really easy to switch in and get a free Swords-Dance off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:02:15 No.14698542 Report

Quoted By: >>14698643 >>14698649 >>14698831

Mega Mawile or Mega Gengar, which do you think is competitively better? I have Gengar and it tears shit up. I originally wanted a Mawile but I feel like I might as well just use Mega Gengar for my Mega pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:04:09 No.14698643 Report

Quoted By:

>>14698542
Unfortunately, Gengar.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:04:14 No.14698649 Report

Quoted By:

>>14698542

Mega Gengar blows Mawile out of the water competitively speaking. I'd argue it's guaranteed Uber, especially with Shadow Tag. Incidentally though Mawile would probably win that match up because of Sucker Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:04:38 No.14698670 Report

Quoted By: >>14698746

>>14698518
Pain Split, Pain Split, Pain Split.

Akira - 5370 1199 6639

Akira - 5370 1199 6639 Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:06:05 No.14698746 Report

Quoted By:

>>14698670

Congrats, you just pain-split 3 times and died

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:06:32 No.14698764 Report

Quoted By: >>14698841

I'm planning on using:

Mawile @ Mawilite
Intimidate--->Huge Power
Adamant 252 HP 252 ATK 6 SPE
-SD
-Play Rough
-Iron Head
-Sucker Punch

Even being slow as balls, with 8 resists, 2 immunities, and only two weakness (albeit to fire and ground...), and intimidate firing before evolving, getting in a SD will be easy. After that it's just a matter of having decent prediction with Sucker Punch while those great defenses keep it alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:08:08 No.14698831 Report

Quoted By:

>>14698542
In singles, Mega Gengar
In doubles, I'd like to bet Mega Mawile is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:08:21 No.14698841 Report

Quoted By: >>14698898

>>14698764
>of having decent prediction
This is the hardest part. I can see myself totally blowing the limited pp on bad calls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:09:26 No.14698898 Report

Quoted By:

>>14698841

Yeah Sucker Punch is kind of annoying to use, especially since it only has a max of 8 PP, but that's why it has 80 BP...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:12:34 No.14699049 Report

Quoted By: >>14699199

I can totally see myself using her now that Garvantula has Sticky Web that allows Mawile to outspeed practically everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:18:21 No.14699199 Report

Quoted By: >>14699281

>>14699049
>Sticky Web
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:20:13 No.14699281 Report

Quoted By: >>14700370

>>14699199
Entry hazard that lowers the speed of any non-flying / levitating Pokemon by one stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:41:32 No.14700370 Report

Quoted By: >>14700421

>>14699281

Electroweb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 22:42:36 No.14700421 Report

Quoted By:

>>14700370
http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/stickyweb.shtml

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