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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:21:16 No.14693706 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14694035 >>14694325 >>14694779 >>14695166 >>14696558

How do you think you can stop the rape?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:22:00 No.14693740 Report

Quoted By: >>14693847 >>14694049

Imposter ditto with a scarf. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:23:23 No.14693792 Report

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Noivern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:24:31 No.14693847 Report

Quoted By: >>14693979

>>14693740
How do dittos work with megas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:24:39 No.14693857 Report

Quoted By: >>14693912

That third eye looks so out of place.

They should have colored it like his other eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:25:26 No.14693894 Report

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Destructo Disk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:25:47 No.14693912 Report

Quoted By: >>14694041

>>14693857
After i tell you this you'll still think it's out of place, but eh.

You do know why it's yellow, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:27:10 No.14693975 Report

Quoted By: >>14694705

Aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:27:15 No.14693979 Report

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>>14693847
they can transform into them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:28:07 No.14694027 Report

Quoted By: >>14694281

The correct answer is "don't play ubers/OU."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:28:18 No.14694035 Report

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>>14693706
with aerodactyl or mega aerodactyl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:28:23 No.14694041 Report

Quoted By: >>14694202 >>14694256

>>14693912
No, I don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:28:33 No.14694049 Report

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>>14693740

Best revenge sweeper of all time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:29:11 No.14694080 Report

Quoted By: >>14697157

So how come they give you this guy halfway through the campaign and leave Mega Mawile for after? I wanted to use Mega Mawile but couldn't so I'm using Mega Gengar instead and it's ripping shit up, it's clearly too powerful to be used in the single player considering it has higher Sp Atk than Mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:29:27 No.14694093 Report

Quoted By: >>14694142

Mega Banette and priority Destiny Bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:30:43 No.14694142 Report

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>>14694093
This nigga right here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:31:52 No.14694193 Report

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Tyranitar/Mega Tyranitar

40% !//v.13zk5M

40% !//v.13zk5M Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:31:56 No.14694197 Report

Quoted By: >>14694245

Does Mega Evolution occur before switching Pokemon?

Because if so, that would mean you could switch out before Shadow Tag actually comes into effect. In which case, wouldn't Gengars usual counters work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:32:01 No.14694202 Report

Quoted By: >>14695073

>>14694041

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mean_Look_(move)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:33:04 No.14694245 Report

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>>14694197

People would expect that. They'd sub up, Megaevolve, then switch out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:33:16 No.14694256 Report

Quoted By: >>14695051

>>14694041
Look up its ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:33:44 No.14694281 Report

Quoted By: >>14694433

>>14694027

How are Smogon dealing with Mega? are they amending Item Clause to ban all megastones to their own tier?

Because RU/UU aren't really capable of dealing with the Megas for their tiers
[Aerodactyl/Mantric, Abomasnow/Houndoom]

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:34:08 No.14694290 Report

Quoted By: >>14694372

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:34:49 No.14694325 Report

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>>14693706
>earthquake
its doomed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:35:11 No.14694346 Report

Quoted By: >>14694391 >>14694479 >>14694507

>send gengar out on an enemy that isn't ghost or psychic type
>gengar misses hypnosis
>enemy uses psychic

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:35:43 No.14694372 Report

Quoted By: >>14694447

>>14694290
>ghosts can't be trapped

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:36:00 No.14694391 Report

Quoted By: >>14694476

>>14694346
>Using Hypnosis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:36:56 No.14694433 Report

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>>14694281
>Smogon fixing a small problem by banning everything ever

No, they wouldn't. It's so uncharacteristic of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:37:16 No.14694447 Report

Quoted By: >>14694512

>>14694372
is it confirmed for abilities? i thought it was just moves like mean look

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:37:54 No.14694471 Report

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What an ugly mofo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:38:01 No.14694476 Report

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>>14694391
I know I should just nuke them with shadow ball or whatever but god dammit I love dream eater too much NOT to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:38:07 No.14694479 Report

Quoted By: >>14694576 >>14694636 >>14694733

>>14694346

Mega Gengar with Hypnosis, Dream Eater and Nightmare sounds like a fun gimmick build.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:38:52 No.14694507 Report

Quoted By: >>14694848

>>14694346
>Hypnosis
>Not using Spore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:38:56 No.14694512 Report

Quoted By: >>14694574

>>14694447
My Honedge can switch out of Trapinch with Arena Trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:40:12 No.14694574 Report

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>>14694512
ok then, my mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:40:14 No.14694576 Report

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>>14694479
>Dream Eater

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:40:44 No.14694597 Report

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if it is still ghost poison Snorlax or Lickylicky can take a special attack and use earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:41:37 No.14694636 Report

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>>14694479
>Making a mega Gengar that weak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:42:57 No.14694695 Report

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Houndevil should do just fine.=-}

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:43:12 No.14694705 Report

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>>14693975
Too bad Steel doesn't resist Ghost anymore, and Mega Gengar might just encore his King's Shield, yes, status moves go through King's Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:43:42 No.14694728 Report

Quoted By: >>14694818

>hypnosis has 80 accuracy this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:43:46 No.14694733 Report

Quoted By: >>14694864

>>14694479
The problem with is hypnosis is that it has something like 60-70 accuracy. Gengar is fast as shit but gets fucked raw by ghost and psychic moves, so if you miss the attack and your opponent happens to know either of those move types you can kiss your ass goodbye.

I've been thinking of replacing it with Confuse Ray and Hex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:44:57 No.14694779 Report

Quoted By: >>14694919 >>14695014

>>14693706

any dark type with sucker punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:45:40 No.14694818 Report

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>>14694728
no wait, I'm wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:46:19 No.14694848 Report

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>>14694507
gengar can learn spore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:46:40 No.14694864 Report

Quoted By: >>14695143

>>14694733
Hex doesn't double with confusion

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:47:58 No.14694919 Report

Quoted By: >>14695011 >>14695225

>>14694779
>playing dark types this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:49:48 No.14695011 Report

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>>14694919

Yeah Dark got kind of fucked this gen, I'm not sure they were so strong that Fairy needed to counter them but whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:49:50 No.14695014 Report

Quoted By: >>14695068

>>14694779
>dark type sent out
>disable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:49:52 No.14695016 Report

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Greninja might just be able to deal with it.

If Mega Gengar tries to Focus Blast, Greninja could just Shadow Sneak, change to Ghost and avoid it, then he would be able to switch out too.

2621-2749-8430 (Dean)

2621-2749-8430 (Dean) Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:50:34 No.14695051 Report

Quoted By:

>>14694256

THIS IS KINDA COOL!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:51:02 No.14695068 Report

Quoted By:

>>14695014
Toxicroak sucker punch ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:51:11 No.14695073 Report

Quoted By:

>>14694202
>perma mean look
oh god

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:52:23 No.14695143 Report

Quoted By: >>14695191

>>14694864
Aww fuck, really?

Okay how about using Toxic with Hex? If the enemy happens to know a super-effective move and kill me before I can nuke them with Hex, they'll still end up being badly poisoned. Either that or just say fuck it and teach it Shadow Ball like I probably should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:52:43 No.14695157 Report

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Mega Mawile. Niggas got sucker punch and huge power. Also the plus of fairy type while being immune to poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:52:58 No.14695166 Report

Quoted By:

>>14693706
Those hand things look ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:53:26 No.14695191 Report

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>>14695143
Tentcruel with toxic spikes and hex is a fun gimmick.

But most will argue hex is too unreliable and doesn't give that good of coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:54:04 No.14695225 Report

Quoted By: >>14695313

>>14694919

>lol faeries rape darks!
>90% of faeries are shit
>the faeries that are not shit are super slow
>there are fuckloads of types to combine with dark, fitting slots in any team
>steel no longer resists dark
>fucktons of dark types learn steel and poison attacks

I will sure enjoy sludge bombing stupid faeries with megahoundoom and poison jabbing the rest with weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:55:44 No.14695313 Report

Quoted By: >>14695551

>>14695225
Good thing non-Fairy pokemon can't learn Fairy attacks right?

Haven't many Focus Blast users dropped it in favor of Fairy attacks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 20:55:48 No.14695317 Report

Quoted By: >>14695560

I read that move order is calculated BEFORE any of the Pokémon mega evolve; only when they are already in their mega form does their new speed stat come into play.
i.e. Starmie still outspeeds Mega Gengar on the turn it transforms and can kill it with Psychic. Aerodactyl outspeeds it too, and can even land a hit with Earthquake since it loses its immunity to Ground attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:00:28 No.14695551 Report

Quoted By: >>14695698

>>14695313

darks have always worried on the defensive side because of how almost everything learns fighting and bug moves, fairy attacks being added doesnt really change anything to them. unless there is a fairy priority move out there, I would worry, but not yet.

now, steel no longer resisting dark is great, since most darks already play offensively, this just helps them more.

in fact faeries added to scare darks just encourages poison on their side more (which already where since they resist bug and fighting) this just reinforces poison partners on darks even more than it did before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:00:39 No.14695560 Report

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>>14695317

Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:03:29 No.14695698 Report

Quoted By: >>14695715

>>14695551
I-is Weezing coming back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:04:01 No.14695715 Report

Quoted By: >>14695929 >>14695983

>>14695698
Nah man, based Crobat and Tentacruel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:07:55 No.14695929 Report

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>>14695715
I miss Weezing
fuck heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:09:04 No.14695983 Report

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>>14695715
Probably this. Crobat also gets a boost thanks to Infiltrator bypassing Sub and Tentacruel might see even more use thanks to Clear Body and being able to rapid spin the new bug entry hazard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:15:12 No.14696280 Report

Quoted By: >>14696445 >>14696891

How do you guys have yours set up? I haven't "properly" trained mine, since I just used it for the story. More often than not, it gets wrecked by doing just too little damage, or being just a little bit too slow. Its defenses feel like fucking toilet paper. I'm sure if I full-on EV train the thing it'd be better but I dunno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:15:55 No.14696318 Report

Quoted By: >>14696465

Mega Gengar should probably go to Ubers. Him and Mega Lucario both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:18:25 No.14696445 Report

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>>14696280
Timid + Black Sludge
Substitute
Disable
Shadow Ball
Dazzling Gleam

or

Timid + Focus Sash
Taunt
Destiny Bond
Shadow Ball
Dazzling Gleam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:18:46 No.14696465 Report

Quoted By: >>14696576

>>14696318
Gyarados and Alakazam will probably go up there too.

So many of the mega forms they chose were already in OU or uber.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:20:56 No.14696558 Report

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>>14693706
I can feel what it is feeling, it says it is inevitable; your doom that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:21:19 No.14696576 Report

Quoted By:

>>14696465
Megazam looks like a downgrade seeing as how he loses Magic Guard and loses his Focus Sash or Choice Scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:28:29 No.14696891 Report

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>>14696280
Mega Gengar has such an amazing movepool, you can do plenty of things with him. Here's some builds pulled from smogon's forum.

MegaGengar@Gengarite
Nature: Timid
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 SpA/176 Speed/80 HP or 252 SpA/252 Speed/4 HP

Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Sludge Wave/Sludge Bomb
Icy Wind/Thunderbolt/HP Fire/Destiny Bond

Shadow Ball/Hex (now 60 BP, 120 if opponent has a status problem, eg. sleep)
Focus Blast/Dazzling Gleam
Hypnosis
Substitute/Taunt/ Perish Song

Taunt
Destiny Bond/Substitute
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast/Sludge Bomb

Shadow Ball
Focus Blast/Sludge Bomb
Substitute
Disable

Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Sludge Wave/Icy Wind
Trick/Thunderbolt

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Bryce 0018 1129 1673 Wed 16 Oct 2013 21:33:30 No.14697157 Report

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>>14694080
I think every mega will be too OP for the story. I used Charizard and even slash was destroying everything.

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