So I tried giving this guy Weakness Policy and I think it's got potential.
Anonymous
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>>14740296 bump for interest
Anonymous
>>14740296 I think Hidden Power is its only special move.
Anonymous
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Weakness Policy seems like it has a lot of potential on bulky attackers.
Anonymous
Does it activate when the move is used or when your Pokémon takes damage? It's probably the second but if it's the first that thing is broke as fuck
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>14741073 When it takes damage of course.
Anonymous
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>>14741075 Flash Cannon, too.
Anonymous
Considering that only 2 types do neutral damage to Aegislash, this seems like a viable strategy.
>>14740917 Flash cannon works.
>>14741073 I heard it activates for Will O' Wisp
Anonymous
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>>14741073 The move has to connect, it didn't work with King's Shield
Anonymous
>>14740296 >I caught a Brave Honedge for my in-game team not caring for Natures >It's the best one >See this Welp, time to rack up BP for weakness policy.
>King's Shield >Shadow Sneak >Iron Head >Sacred Sword Should I go with 252 HP 252 Atk
Or something else?
Anonymous
So in an effort to have both Kings Shield and Sacred sword, I should postpone my Doublade's evolution until level 51 correct?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14740296 He really looks like he's just laughing to me.
Makes sense though. Fighting him is a bitch.
Anonymous
>>14741385 Don't use Shadow Sneak, you'll move first and as a result get hit with your no defences.
Use Shadow Claw.
Anonymous
>>14741881 Use shadow sneak if you're running swords dance.
Shadow Claw if you're not.
Anonymous
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>>14741706 nah just grab two heart scales and visit the move relearner. you can evolve doublade immediately.
Anonymous
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OP here,
As near as I can tell, my Aegislash is very bad IV wise. According to the judge he's 'decent overall', his attack is 0 and his best stat is speed, which he says is 'rather decent' and he has a negative speed nature anyway.
He and Pangoro are still essentially trolling the Battle Maison anyways.
>>14741253 Yeah I think I'll swap out iron head for flash cannon and keep sacred sword and shadow sneak.
Anonymous
>>14741912 He's running Weakness Policy though.
Anonymous
>>14741967 Yes. In this case Claw is better.
But I wanted him to know that if he uses swords dance that Sneak would be better.
Anonymous
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Is weakness policy one-time use?
Anonymous
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>>14740296 this would mean that anything that doesn't outright kill it first turn could get a STAB sacred sword/iron head followed by a STAB shadow sneak, both at +2.
You could also run pursuit as well in a pursuit, KS, iron head, shadow sneak set so that if they opponent knows they will die to the +2 shadow sneak they will likely switch out and eat the pursuit.
It looks like a nice mind game poké
Anonymous
>>14742010 Actually I hadn't thought of that. You think I can forgo priority after I've accumulated buffs/debuffs?
Anonymous
He's so beefy that he's bound to survive one hit at least.
Anonymous
>send out my Doublade against Pyroar which was several levels higher than Doublade >it keeps getting super-effective hits on me >does hardly any damage
Anonymous
>>14742141 Yes.
If you get +4 on him, then a stab priority attack would do fucking wonders.
Anonymous
I'd rather have SD with leftovers.
Anonymous
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>>14742207 45-48 Iron head.
51 Sacred Sword.
>>14742224 Anonymous
I'm still trying to decide on a team to get BP quickly. >mfw getting haxed to death by a fucking purugly on my first run
Anonymous
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>>14741881 Nobody is advocating to use Shadow Sneak as you do the other moves. You use it against fast revenge killers and quick KOs on frail targets, and with a boost, late game cleaning.
If you're using SSneak when you know you can be KOed afterwards, you're either doing a last ditch for another to revenge kill (an option SClaw doesn't have) or you're using it wrong.
My biggest issue was trying to run both KShield and Swords Dance, so the reminder of Weakness Policy definitely makes my preferred set much more viable
Anonymous
>>14742189 My Aegislash has been killed by a single Fire Blast from Mega Charizard Y in defensive form. This tactic is very risky, but with great reward.
Anonymous
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So what move to sacrifice for shadow sneak. Iron head or sacred sword
Anonymous
>>14742219 I get that, what I'm asking is if shadow sneak isn't good enough without the guarunteed boosts from swords dance and I'd be better off eating a hit to use shadow claw.
Anonymous
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>>14742422 >got OHKOed by a high power sun boosted SE STAB attack from a strong attacker Stop the fucking presses
Anonymous
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>>14741869 He's laughing so hard that he's DOUBLED-over.
eric 1478-3722-5329
what stats should I try to max on a brave honedge, if I had to choose 2?
Anonymous
>>14742890 I'd say HP and Attack would be the most basic.
But you could also do HP and SpD seeing as how King's Shield doesn't drop SpA.
eric 1478-3722-5329
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>>14743108 just asking so i can get the proper safari ditto.
Anonymous
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>>14742502 run the item and swords dance? SD first turn and if they SE hit you and you survive you now have a one turn +4 attack boost, unless they are running some major ghost resists on their turn you will do some great damage.
Anonymous
Fastest way to farm heart scales without fishing please. I hate fishing in this game.
Anonymous
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>>14742316 Mega Blaziken. Have fun.
Anonymous
I got Shadow Sneak, Night Slash, King's Shield, and Swords Dance.
Anonymous
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>>14743929 Night slash. It overlaps too much with Shadow Sneak, which is more useful IMO.
Anonymous
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>>14743929 Shadow claw for night slash. Sacred sword for Shadow sneak.
Anonymous
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>>14743562 None, Thief fishing is the way to go. If compoundeyes still stacks you should add those to your party to speed it up.
Anonymous
I just realized Malamar is this guy's worst nightmare.
Anonymous
Who is laughing now?
Anonymous
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>>14744488 Aegislash can just carry Swagger. Haha!
Anonymous
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>>14744509 Uber or at least OU.
Same with Malamar.
Anonymous
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>>14740296 I feel it would be beneficial to still have Swords Dance, in case they don't have a SE move?
You can open up with Iron Head/Sacred Sword
how come nobody uses Gyro Ball? and, if they didn't/couldn't take the bait, you King's Sheild up and continue to SD and sweep.
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
Give this fucker some leftovers.>turn 1 king's shield >turn 2 foe is faster and will attack your shield forme. then you transform into attack and ohko or something >turn 3 revert with king's shield >repeat turn 2 and turn 3 forever
Anonymous
>>14745092 >This strategy dies to priority moves, though. No it doesn't.
Kings shield is a faster priority.
Anonymous
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>>14740296 >Has anyone found any special attacks for Aegislash? It does get flash cannon, and I guess shadow ball, but you should be using Shadow Sneak
Axel 0774 5189 5767
Any spare with brave nature please?
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
>>14745183 In paper it's a wonderful strategy. I wonder how does it fare in practice. Can't wait for my Brave quadflawless Honedge to be born.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14745292 I have like 40.
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
>>14745445 Do they have flawless HP and/or Attack? If so, I'll take one. What are you looking for?
Axel 0774 5189 5767
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>>14745445 And can I have one please?
Anonymous
>>14745433 >quadflawless ?
It works great in practice.
Fighting a well built one is a major fucking pain.
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
>>14745533 Quad Flawless = 31/31/31/x/31/x IVs.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14745497 Foreign stuff, I guess.
If I had a foreign ditto, I'd pump out shinies for people like nobodies business, but a foreign Honedge would be neat, too.
Anonymous
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Does anyone know if King's Shield can be used in succession with Protect without it failing? Does Weakness Policy activate if your sub is hit?
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
>>14745573 I do have a Spanish and a Japanese Ditto, if you're into those.
Have plenty of non-Ditto international mons, so just ask.
Anonymous
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>>14745571 Jesus.
That sounds like a pain in the ass to breed.
I don't think I could ever get into IV's unless I struck gold on a ditto.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14745625 It would be amazing if I could get either of those dittos. I'll drop an everstone on the Honedge. Just tell me what gender.
The one I bred and trained for my brother the other day is Judged as "It could not be better" by that judge guy, but I can't promise everything. I'll check a few of them. Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14745682 >everstone Dusk stone, fuck.
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
>>14745682 Don't really care about the gender as long as it's Brave and has decent IVs, really.
Something like that spoiler. I'll give you both Dittos for it.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14745779 "Stats like those...They simply can't be beat. That's how I judge it."
I'm guessing this is good.
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
>>14745824 That's a flawless IV right there. I'll add you now!
Send me the Honedge and any random derp; I'll provide both Dittos.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14745872 >random derp Fuck you, I'm
sending two Honedges.. Axel 0774 5189 5767
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>>14745730 Thanks a lot for the Scyther but I wanted the swordguy. It would make my day.
Anonymous
>>14744488 Thats what shadowsneak is for in the first place
Marisa 4828 - 4137 - 9567
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>>14745906 May the RNG bless you with sweet shinies forever, kind Anon.
Anonymous
Aegislash@Weakness Policy
Anonymous
>>14745983 Shadow Sneak is for Gengar.
It's nothing special against Malamar.
Anonymous
>>14746028 Automize
why the fuck.
Anonymous
>>14746076 If its in a situation where topsy turvy is going to severely cripple it a neutral stab sneak should be able to do it.
Anonymous
>>14746133 I dunno, maybe I'm underestimating how slow this guy is
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
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>>14746133 Because that guy likes Fire Punches in his pooper.
Axel 0774 5189 5767
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>>14745906 You made my day man, thanks.
Anonymous
>>14746225 topsy turvy is pretty beefy though. especially against physical.
>>14746226 No, dude.
You want him to be slow.
Slow as possible.
slow nature and all.
Anonymous
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>>14746226 Low speed is beneficial for him though, tank shit in Shield Stance, wreck ass in Sword Stance.
This isn't a minmax Pokémon, it can use 5 of his stats incredibly well.
Anonymous
>>14746304 I know that, but I'm just trying to variation. Like, instead of switching between wall and sweeper. Just straight up glass cannon sweeper.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>This (Japanese Ditto's) stats are decent all around. >But you're going nowhere fast with that speed stat.
Anonymous
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>>14746422 that doesn't make any sense.
He's not tough enough to take 2 SE hits, so that Automize will just get him killed.
And since it's not a Swords dance he's gonna do shit damage.
Anonymous
>>14746462 >he didn't get a friend safari japanese ditto with perfect IVs in HP and Attack Step it up.
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
>>14746462 you lucky fuck you.
any chance you could breed me one?
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14746535 Ffffuck.
>>14746548 The ditto? Naw, but I'm making Honedges.
Prepare for the slowest creeping death you've ever seen.
About to put these two fuckers into the daycare. Can I send eggs? Anonymous
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
>>14746614 >Can I send eggs? yes
Anonymous
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>>14746422 If you want a straight up sweeper that can't wall you might as well just stick with doublade
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
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>>14746642 Sp attack is bad for him because he gets no nasty plot.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14746719 Got one. Adding you.
I don't care what I get.
Anonymous
This Pokemon is broken as fuck, incoming Ubers classification
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
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>>14746888 >broken as fuck >dies to Charazard Y naw
Anonymous
>>14740296 Confusion fucks this guy over.
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14746888 Toxic says hi.
Sleep fucks it over, too. Especially if the powderer is slower.
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
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>>14747058 if it triggers, it fucks everyone over.
Anonymous
>>14747122 >Toxic says hi. >On a steel type. Ok.
>Sleep fucks it over. He can still change forms in sleep I think.
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
>>14747122 >Toxic a Steel type You fucking what mate?
Paul: 1848-1675-4406
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>>14747122 You can't use toxic on a steel type if I recall correctly.
Anonymous
>>14747122 >poisoning a Steel And there's not many sleeps that will be slower than it.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14747185 >>14747198 Oh shit, right.
Just anything that hurts it gradually.
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
>>14747235 He'd be worried about burn, that's about it.
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
>>14747215 >slower then it I don't see how that's relevant with sleep effects,
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14747272 Burn, sleep, and paralysis. Especially on one of them static body guys that gives you paralysis after physical attacks. If he loses the ability to protect next turn, he's a tad bit fucked. He's not AS sturdy as people think.
Anonymous
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>>14747279 Sleep is useless anyways because switch out kill the sleeper/counter and then switch back in defense mode and tank it til awake
Anonymous
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>>14741881 I like using shadow sneak, since Aegis is designed to take hits eventually he is gonna go down, might as well get in one last hit if you know he is gonna fall
Guy: 4785 4221 0610
So I heard that King's Shield doesn't protect against non damaging moves such as taunt, will-o-wisp, and leech seed. Would protect be better than king's shield, or does protect not revert aegislash back into shield mode?
Anonymous
>>14747401 King's Sheild is the only thing that changes him, barring switching him out.
Anonymous
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>>14747279 >Use Sleep Powder or any sleep inducing move >Aegislash falls asleep in Shield Form Or
>switch in sleep user >Aegislash attacks >Aegislash uses Protect Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
>>14747418 really?
are you sure?
I could have swore Protect did as well.
lipucd 0533 5249 5902
>>14747333 JUST an FYI, but he can change stances even if he becomes Paralyzed or Asleep.
Case in point, I Sacred Sword a Raichu, Static gets me, guy sends out Blaziken to clean up, I use King's Shield to switch, I get the 'Paralyzed and can't move', but I ALSO go back into shield mode.
Guy: 4785 4221 0610
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>>14747418 well fuck so bassically you're screwed against status abusers?
Anonymous
>>14747456 Well, I haven't tried Protect yet, but that's just what I heard.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
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>>14747459 I know he can. I laughed my ass off when he did.
But he's still a steel type vulnerable for like 4 turns.
The reason he's ghost type is because fighting would fucking slaughter him.
Anonymous
>>14747456 Go on ahead and test it. I would but I'm heading out in a few and don't want to farm more heart scales to relearn attacks.
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
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>>14747540 I don't want to test it ether.
Anonymous
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>Enter battle in defense mode >Sword Dance >They huit you with a weakness >Spam +4 Shadow Sneaks
Anonymous
What would you even use in place of weakness policy? Leftovers or life orb?
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
Anonymous
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>>14747626 Using Leftovers for mine.
Anonymous
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>>14747626 WIth how much damage he can do, he doesn't have the HP for Life Orb
Leroy - 1848 -1671 - 1330
>>14747540 >>14747487 tested it.
Protect does not work.
That's too bad.
Anonymous
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>>14747626 Well I think this weakness policy strategy is a lot better for Aegislash in all honesty. I think I'll give leftovers to someone else that's bulky like clawitzer or something
Anonymous
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>>14747699 Well this means prankster pokemon with status will become a lot more popular then.
Brendan 0044-2857-8648
>>14747699 Well, if you needed to stall for something, just use King's Shield first, then alternate wit Protect, then shield, etc.
I'd use it for double battles. Really fuck with people while revving something up. Every once in a while, pull out shadow sneak.
Anonymous
>>14740296 How does Stance Change actually mechanically work?
Does it swap effective Attack and Defensive stats accounting for EVs? Or does it just switch the bases?
Anonymous
>>14748189 Looks like it swaps the bases. EVs stay where you put them.
Anonymous
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>>14747781 You still breeding Honedges? I've got grimers (for disable on your ghost pokemon) if you want.
Anonymous
>>14740296 What attacks have decreased priority? If it can be hit after it attacks, we can nail it with its low defenses.
As of Gen V, I know there's Avalanche and Dragon Tail that hit it, but both of those are NFE and all the other options are Fighting-type.
Anonymous
>>14748548 IIRC, Avalanche/Revenge/Payback aren't decreased priority moves. They just deal more damage if the user is hurt before using them.
>>14748428 Thanks for the input.
Anonymous
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>>14748781 >IIRC, Avalanche/Revenge/Payback aren't decreased priority move Avalanche and Revenge are -4 priority
Anonymous
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>>14748781 Did they change that this gen?
Revenge has been decreased priority since Gen IV, same as Avalanche (Payback has never been decreased priority).
Anonymous
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>>14745092 Wow, wait there, are you saying that we should use the attack form to attack and the defense form to defend? You have some crazy ideas. I like that.
Anonymous
My Honedge evolved into a Doublade, should I evolve it when I get a dusk stone or should I wait?
Anonymous
>>14750040 The earliest Dusk Stone laying around is in a cave before the 8th gym.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14750148 Aaactually, you can get a dusk stone from the Super Training stuff. The one where you challenge the Aegislash balloon, fittingly enough.
Anonymous
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>>14750348 There's that, but the earliest one on the ground is in that Terminus Cave.
Anonymous
>>14750235 Alternatively just do the Aegislash Balloon Training level. Using that you could feasibly get a Dusk Stone before you even battle Shauna.
Anonymous
Anonymous
What are the opinions on Doublade w/ Eviolite? Think the No Guard would make it viable for some Double Battle shenanigans?
Anonymous
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>>14751548 I just don't know if it's attack will be high enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>14747279 It can stance change w/o having to wake up
Anonymous
>You realize Steel lost is Dark/Ghost resistances solely because of this Pokemon
Anonymous
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>>14754326 >You realize Steel was always overpowered and needed a minor nerf
