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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:06:24 No.14788235 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14788346 >>14788704 >>14790180

>Super Training
Why on earth would anyone give two shits about the pokerus right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:07:18 No.14788249 Report

Quoted By: >>14788272 >>14788277 >>14788368 >>14789388

Because normally training is still faster in every possible way

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:08:12 No.14788272 Report

Quoted By: >>14788291 >>14788328

Does PokeRus not effect super training?

>>14788249

Lol this fuckin guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:08:30 No.14788275 Report

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Doesn't pokerus half training bag time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:08:36 No.14788277 Report

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>>14788249
This. You must be a fucking retard to play this shitty minigames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:09:07 No.14788291 Report

Quoted By: >>14788527 >>14789338

>>14788272
>50 EVs per horde encounter
>not infinitely faster than that shitty minigame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:11:05 No.14788328 Report

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>>14788272
No. No it does not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:11:43 No.14788344 Report

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If you know your EV sources well they'd probably still be faster.

A nice horde encounter with pokerus is going to just dump EVs all over you, helping you to get it done in a few minutes.

The beauty of super training is that it's fast enough to be worth doing while being transparent enough in how it works that you can do it without much thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:11:47 No.14788346 Report

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>>14788235
you know, there is the safari, the perfect place to train a pkm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:13:03 No.14788368 Report

Quoted By: >>14788383

>>14788249
I can get 60 evs in less than a minute through ST. How is that slow exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:13:51 No.14788383 Report

Quoted By: >>14788525

>>14788368
You can, if you already have 5 12EV bags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:21:16 No.14788525 Report

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>>14788383
Or if you aren't fucking retarded and can play the
>easiest mini-game of all time
Tap, tap, tap done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:21:22 No.14788527 Report

Quoted By: >>14788533 >>14788559 >>14788570

>>14788291
>Horde battles are 100% reliable and happen every time guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:21:46 No.14788533 Report

Quoted By: >>14788580

>>14788527
Well, they pretty much are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:22:52 No.14788559 Report

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>>14788527
If you use shit like sweet scent, yeah, they're pretty fucking common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:23:34 No.14788570 Report

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>>14788527
>I've never heard of Sweet Scent guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:23:52 No.14788580 Report

Quoted By: >>14788591

>>14788533
they are not. and thanks to X&Y's huge amount of wild pokemon there's no guarantee that you'll get the horde of a pokemon you want.

so you'll spend 15 minutes looking for the horde you need to get those 50 ev's while I've already maxed out a stat in super training

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:24:21 No.14788591 Report

Quoted By: >>14788640

>>14788580
>what is Sweet Scent
>what is Honey
Just stop talking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:25:53 No.14788640 Report

Quoted By: >>14788656 >>14788682

>>14788591
>sweet scent and honey fix everything! oh shit mixed horde, now I got random sp def ev in my speed def group

haha. fucking tards defending your shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:26:43 No.14788656 Report

Quoted By: >>14788787

>>14788640
Seriously, stop talking if you have no idea what you're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:28:01 No.14788682 Report

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>>14788640
>mixed horde

In Connecting Cave you get hordes of Zubat for Speed and hordes of Axew for attack. Sometimes there are hordes of Whismur, but running from them doesn't take nearly as long as it does just to repeat the super training minigame. Not to mention that you can EV train an entire party at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:28:38 No.14788704 Report

Quoted By: >>14788729

>>14788235
Does anyone have a list of EV training spots in X/Y? I cant stand those stupid minigames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:29:38 No.14788729 Report

Quoted By: >>14788755 >>14789110 >>14792184

>>14788704
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/vp/image/1382/07/1382074824605.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:30:39 No.14788755 Report

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>>14788729
That was quick, thanks anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:31:48 No.14788787 Report

Quoted By: >>14788948 >>14789006

>>14788656
>oh no he countered my bullshit with logic and reason again! better tell him to shut up because I can't come up with anything else!
>N-no my system isn't flawed guys! I-it's faster! Sweet Scent! Fuck, another horde of geodudes instead of zubats. Fuck, random pokemon in the horde throwing off my count! This is so much better than a guaranteed amount of EV's

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:37:51 No.14788948 Report

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>>14788787

You haven't countered anything. You're trying to discredit things that you know nothing about. There are bunches of hordes available that don't mix Pokemon, KOing 5 weak Pokemon is bar far faster the 30 seconds it takes to complete a super training sessions and the additional 30 it takes to get through all of the crap just to do it again, and you can EV train multiple Pokemon at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:40:44 No.14789006 Report

Quoted By: >>14789189

>>14788787
The big difference is that you can also ev train multiple pokemon at the same time.

You could argue that super training is faster under specific circumstances. But for a lot of people who are ev training a lot of pokemon, hordes are the way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:41:32 No.14789027 Report

Quoted By: >>14789070

how many stat points are available trough super training?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:42:48 No.14789055 Report

Quoted By: >>14789070 >>14789072

Somone please help me out. If my pokemon was cured from pokerus it still gonna get 2x EV??

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:43:36 No.14789070 Report

Quoted By: >>14789131 >>14789189

>>14789027
4 per session from level 1, 8 from level 2, 16 from level 3.

Plus the training bags.

So it would take about 3 level 3 training sessions to match one horde with proper preparation.

>>14789055
Yes, it just can't give it to other pokemon anymore.

Also pokerus doesn't count for super training.

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Slops: 3523-3059-9963 Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:43:41 No.14789072 Report

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>>14789055
yes, it just cant infect other pokemon anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:45:23 No.14789110 Report

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Gee guys, it's almost as if both methods work to varying degrees or something (super training requires nothing, proper training needs sweet scent+power items+poker us+game knowledge of where to get correct hordes). ST is great if only for reset bags, normal is harder to set up for a long while but much faster.

>>14788729
This is wrong about 2 ev pokes, which yield 60 in hordes, not 100 (2+4)*2*5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:45:53 No.14789131 Report

Quoted By: >>14789154

>>14789070

Sorry I meant total base stats.

how much for EV training can be allocated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:47:00 No.14789154 Report

Quoted By: >>14789208

>>14789131

510 total, 252 max for any stat.

Incoherent Gentleman

Incoherent Gentleman Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:48:25 No.14789189 Report

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>>14789006
>>14789070

I agree with all of this, I used ST only at the very beginning because I didn't want busted stats on my starter. After I found the hording system I just SSed my way into easy hordes. I never really got a mixed horde when I SSed either. I do admit the ST thing is nice for people who,

A. Don't know the current EV set ups or spots of the game.
B. Are new to EV training in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:49:16 No.14789208 Report

Quoted By: >>14789257 >>14789269

>>14789154

wow. holy shit.

new to all this. Can clearly see why people do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:50:52 No.14789249 Report

Quoted By: >>14789278

horde iv training with pokerus and a macho brace is faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:51:20 No.14789257 Report

Quoted By: >>14789313

>>14789208

I think there may have been a miscommunication somewhere. Each stat can have a maximum of 252 EVs, which gives that a a boost of 63 points at level 100. It's pretty substantial but not as much as I think you were thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:51:48 No.14789269 Report

Quoted By: >>14789313

>>14789208
That's not 252 stat points, it's 63 points

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:52:20 No.14789278 Report

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>>14789249
>macho brace

Couldn't spring for the Power items huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:54:08 No.14789313 Report

Quoted By: >>14789331

>>14789269
>>14789257

yeah yeah max.

And the EVs get added as you level up riht now instant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:55:13 No.14789331 Report

Quoted By: >>14789384

>>14789313
They get added as you level up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:55:21 No.14789338 Report

Quoted By: >>14789435

>>14788291
>implying you'll be able to get horde encounters often enough for that to be true
>implying you didn't just read that somewhere on /vp/ and are just regurgitating garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:57:23 No.14789384 Report

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>>14789331

Neat. Thanks guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:57:43 No.14789388 Report

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>>14788249
Took me 1 hour to max SPD and ATK on blaze. But fuck noivern.

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IGN: Chaos — 0791-1539-4555 — Rock (Dwebble/Magcargo/Shuckle) Fri 18 Oct 2013 13:59:40 No.14789435 Report

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>>14789338

Sweet Scent or Honey will force Horde Battles, dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:06:10 No.14789590 Report

Quoted By: >>14789651

so how do I lower EV's now? grew some berries to lower them but that shit takes a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:07:59 No.14789651 Report

Quoted By: >>14789738

>>14789590
Reset bags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:10:53 No.14789738 Report

Quoted By: >>14789752

>>14789651
do they reset everything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:11:23 No.14789752 Report

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>>14789738
Yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:17:00 No.14789926 Report

Quoted By: >>14790065

You know how Super Training stops at 252 instead of going overboard to 255? Is it the same for normal EV training?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:22:03 No.14790065 Report

Quoted By: >>14790116

>>14789926
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:23:33 No.14790116 Report

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>>14790065

Thanks. The whole making sure you only kill 20 Litwick instead of 21 was the worst part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:24:26 No.14790137 Report

Quoted By: >>14790830

Even if normal training is still faster, this is a lot less monotonous

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:25:58 No.14790180 Report

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>>14788235
You can get evolution stones and other items from super training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:49:28 No.14790766 Report

Quoted By: >>14790831

>secret super training

wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:51:33 No.14790830 Report

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>>14790137
>super training
>not monotonous
They could at last have more minigames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:51:33 No.14790831 Report

Quoted By: >>14791029

>>14790766
Max out the EVs on a poke and you'll see

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:52:34 No.14790854 Report

Quoted By: >>14790889

How do you get a reset bag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:54:18 No.14790889 Report

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>>14790854

luck.

if any of your guys are bouncig then they are well rested. so tapping the bag will bet random bags really quickly. keep going until a reset pops up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 14:59:53 No.14791029 Report

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>>14790831

items and stuff.

cool. is there a purose to having medals or is it just an indicator you habe a high score

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 15:05:33 No.14791183 Report

Quoted By: >>14792184

All this talk about hordes but I haven't yet seen a reliable list of where to go to for which hordes for which EVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2013 15:35:47 No.14792184 Report

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>>14791183

>>14788729

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