It's that time again. How many times has a Blaziken swept your team?
Anonymous
What's a good, annoying pokemon that would piss people off?
Anonymous
>>14880982 Whimsicott, Togekiss
Zig 2723-8832-2351
Anonymous
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So, I keep running into loses and don't know why. Can anyone give me good basic teambuilding tips?
Anonymous
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>>14881016 Is there anything that's also anti-ice?
Branson 3995 7221 0325 (Oddish Petilil Quilladin)
Branson 3995 7221 0325 (Oddish Petilil Quilladin) Sun 20 Oct 2013 02:41:30 No. 14881169 Report Gonna try to make a viable Delphox. Don't know egg moves so I'm going off TMs.
Anonymous
How does one beat the Blazikens?
Branson 3995 7221 0325 (Oddish Petilil Quilladin)
Branson 3995 7221 0325 (Oddish Petilil Quilladin) Sun 20 Oct 2013 02:42:42 No. 14881250 Report Quoted By:
Anonymous
I'm new to team building. I've never done any of it. I'm looking to get competitive with some of my friends. Any good advice to get started? I have no clue where to start. I know of EVs, IVs, breeding, etc.. just nothing else.
Anonymous
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>>14881181 Choice Scarf Imposter Ditto, Trick Room, Gale Wings Talonflame, Aqua Jet Azumarill just to name some common options
Thomas 3797 - 6208 - 7051
>>14881253 I'm the same way. Any guides I look up or reading Smogon shit just confuses the hell out of me.
Anonymous
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Blaziken has never swept me.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
>>14881169 I've seen people recommending Psyshock, either instead of Psychic, or with it.
Wil (1822-0183-3332) [Safari: (Ice) Snover, Beartic, Piloswine]
Wil (1822-0183-3332) [Safari: (Ice) Snover, Beartic, Piloswine] Sun 20 Oct 2013 02:46:24 No. 14881450 Report Quoted By:
I'm trying to make a team with Mega Mawile, but I'm not very experienced at this whole competitive battling shit. The only thing that has caught my eye is Reuniclus, which I can use with Trick Room and help turn Mawile into a beast. Are there better options than this? I'd really like some suggestions to help get me going.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
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>>14881181 People keep on discovering more ways, it seems. For me, I've been using a Flygon with Earthquake. Even if they protect, they sometimes get outsped by him. Not as a secure method as other, more specific counters, but yea.
Branson 3995 7221 0325 (Oddish Petilil Quilladin)
Branson 3995 7221 0325 (Oddish Petilil Quilladin) Sun 20 Oct 2013 02:47:41 No. 14881505 Report Quoted By:
>>14881400 Yeah I was thinking that as well. Really depends, but can be a work around to Special Walls.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
>>14881253 >>14881341 It's easier to help fi you ask more specific questions. What's confusing you especially?
Anonymous
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>>14881253 Watch some videos, try shit out on showdown so you don't have to dedicate a bunch of time into making something that might not quite work like you hoped. Gen 6 showdown isn't quite there yet, but gen 5 is good enough to get basics down.
Anonymous
>>14881534 Just the basics of building a well rounded team. What all the terms mean for example: sweep and stall.
I've just been a player that's done the story and some occasional shiny hunting.
Thomas 3797 - 6208 - 7051
>>14881534 I don't understand the Team Comp stuff. Like, what makes a good team? What am I shooting for here? What if I like a Pokemon like Scizor, is it possible to build a team around that, with a play-style catered to what I like? I just don't really get it.
Anonymous
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>>14881181 1. Use an Aegishield and King's Shield, since all of Blaziken's moves are contact.
2. Greninja Water Shuriken and pray you get 5 hits
3. Talonflame with Gale Wings and Acrobatics/Brave Bird
4. Garchomp
5. Mega Gengar with psychic.
These are all methods that have worked for me.
Anonymous
>>14881181 >Mega Banette used Destiny Bond! and then when Blaziken dies, they disconnect; toppest lel
Thomas 2621-3895-0168 (Shuppet, Dusclops, Pumpkaboo)
Thomas 2621-3895-0168 (Shuppet, Dusclops, Pumpkaboo) Sun 20 Oct 2013 02:51:28 No. 14881683 Report Quoted By:
I've been using my Shuckle as a hard counter to Blaziken. It's been working swimmingly so far.
Anonymous
>>14881634 Sweep: Using one pokemon to destroy your opponents entire team
Stall: Stalling.
Anonymous
Does anyone have an idea for a Mega-Banette set with moves and EV spread? Also, can Banette learn Parting Shot?
Anonymous
>>14881690 Mine runs Max Attack and max HP.
Also, no. And use Sub/status inflicting move.
Anonymous
>>14881689 How do you figure out how to make a team? What do I base it around?
Anonymous
>>14881690 Mega Banette needs Will-O-Wisp to cripple other Megas(Lucario, Garchomp, Mawile) and Destiny Bond for a guaranteed kill.
Anonymous
I'm running a Mega Gardevoir. So far it's been awesome and has destroyed several opposing teams, but I'm wondering about what my fourth move should be. The three I'm using are
Anonymous
>>14881669 >>14881690 I thought Bennette was considered a bad pokemon?
Anonymous
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>>14881784 That is completely wrecked by Aegislash.
Anonymous
>>14881741 And what do you use the Attack for? Shadow Claw? Also, what nature?
Anonymous
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>>14881784 Gardevoir learns Moon Blast so replace Dazzling Gleam with it
Anonymous
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>>14881767 Is Destiny Bond solely an Egg move?
Anonymous
So are the recommended natures/move sets for Absol on Smogon still valid, or what?
Anonymous
>>14881817 It has Prankster
>>14881823 Shadow Sneak
Anonymous
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I have no idea how all this competitive pokeman works. Anyone want to teach me? Or a good guide to look up?
Anonymous
>>14881823 Yeah: mine's Brave, and IV guy said it had like three Max IV stats, so I kept it. It's kinda fragile, but its attack is fucking massive.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
>>14881634 >>14881637 Okay so, I'm not a great tutorial guy, but I'll try to give you two some hints.
>You can use your favorites. My usual loadout has Flygon and Heliolisk, neither of which are considered OU tier. Flygon, while having three attacks for sweeping (EQ, Superpower, Rock Slide) also has scouting potential with U-Turn. His boosted speed lets him do that without much issue.
So, if I run into a pokemon with Flygon whom I need an extra hit with, or time, or anything really, I'll use U-Turn, then switch into Lucario. Lucario, being a steel type, is most likely resistant to what they were planning to throw at Flygon (ice, dragon, fairy). And since Flygon is usually faster, I got free damage on them. Then, can either proceed to take them out with Lucario,
OR, if Lucario is wasted, I can switch into Heliolisk, My fastest pokemon. A U-Turn wouldn't be wisely used on him, since he's so fragile. So I have to switch him in the old fashioned way, after a pokemon faints. He then has a special attacking moveset with a great spread (Dark Pulse, Thunderbolt, Grass Knot, Focus Blast) which can cover most pokemon. And he'll outspeed them, winning the match with a sweep.
Anonymous
>>14881766 You figure out how to make a team based around what pokemon you want to use, provided they're decent.
If you want to base a team around something, like spore or trick room or setting up Mega Garchomp to sweep then you just need to consider what you want that set to do and there probably won't be a ton of viable pokemon for it so you pick the best ones.
Anonymous
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>>14881817 Prankster, and Groudon-tier Attack with a Mega Evolution.
Anonymous
how do I use shedinj to his max potential? Strategy wise
Anonymous
>>14881950 >>14881938 Alright, thanks guys. Last question, what are all these tiers y'all are talking about?
Anonymous
>>14881181 Delphox fucks Mega Blazikens up pretty hard.
I'm more worried about Mega Charizard Y to be honest.
Anonymous
Stall rain team > Offensive rain team
Thomas 3797 - 6208 - 7051
>>14881938 >>14881950 So, basically, use the Pokemon I like, but just make sure I have good coverage across types?
Zanza 2707-1693-7612
>>14881988 Add me.
Also, no one's told me what my zone is, so can you enlighten me?
Anonymous
So gang, what move should I dump for Swords Dance on Scizor?
Anonymous
Could anyone point me to a basic starting team I could build to get started? I just want to battle some of friends, and get some practice in before I try to build a team.
Anonymous
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>>14881766 There are some decent/good team building videos out there to help you out. For me, I generally find a pokemon or strategy I want to use and build around it. If you want to find a team you can win a lot with, you gotta start battling first to get a feel for the metagame. Just dive in with it; try out showdown and all that stuff before you start jumping on wi-fi. You see a lot of samey stuff in OU, but try some other tiers (perhaps UU).
>>14882024 Smogon tiers, they rank in terms of usage and banlists.
Ubers (technically ou banlist)
ou
Borderline (banlist for uu, rest are the same style)
uu
Borderline 2
ru
borderline 3
nu
You can use any pokemon from a lower tier in a higher tier, and you generally will.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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For the 3v3s that is online I'm planning on this:not sure on item Handles most of the popular mons like mega lucario, charizard, blaziken, etc.
Anonymous
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>>14882024 Tiers usually refer to the tiers Smogon uses which are created based on a pokemon's usage in competitive battling
Anonymous
>>14881899 >>14881925 Okay, so how's this as a set?
Banette@Banettite
Brave Nature
Frisk/Prankster
252HP/252Attk/4SpDef
Moves
-Will-O-Wisp
-Shadow Sneak
-Destiny Bond
-Taunt/Substitute
Anonymous
>>14882024 http://www.smogon.com/bw/tiers/ Tiers are a rough approximation of how good a Pokemon is. Most legendaries are in Uber or Overused tier, for instance, while something like Caterpie is in Neverused.
>>14882072 Provided your favourite pokemon aren't Magikarp, Sunkern, and Unown, yes.
Anonymous
Perhaps it's a good idea to share our battle videos here as well?
Thomas 3797 - 6208 - 7051
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>>14882186 SHIT THOSE ARE MY TOP THREE
Zanza 2707-1693-7612
>>14882172 Sounds good to me.
Destiny Bond is an Egg Move for certain now?
Anonymous
>>14882193 The only battle videos I bother to save are the ones where I win hilariously easily so I'm not sure /vp/ would be interested.
Anonymous
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>>14882172 Put the last 4 EVs in Defense
Anonymous
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>>14882250 The one I saved was where I got hit with hypnosis 7 times in a row.
Anonymous
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>>14882247 Dreamworld Shuppets also have it, but well, you can't get them until December. So yeah.
Anonymous
What's a good moveset for Tyrantrum? Is it required to get egg moves on it, and if so which ones?
Anonymous
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>>14881181 Trick Room
Chandalure
Gale Wings Talonflame revenges the fuck out of Blaziken or even counters it as long as it doesnt use Rock Slide or a +2 anything
Aegislash can force it out if you can predict good.
Slowbro
Choice Scarfers with base 105+ speed
etc
Anonymous
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>>14882247 Yup, just get a Wobbuffet from Reflection Cave
Anonymous
>>14882316 You want the dreamworld ability for it and a choice scarf.
Anonymous
>>14882250 Still, would be at least fun/entertaining to watch if whatever happens is interesting enough.
I'll probably upload one of mine soon, actually, because why not?
>How many times has MegaBlaziken sweeped your team
Anonymous
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I'm convinced there's a way to make Greninja absolutely indestructible in online with a combination of Substitute, Power-up Punch, and Water Shuriken but I can't figure it out for the life of me.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
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>>14882106 >>14881988 You guys are in the wrong place.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Where can I get a Flying Gem for my Scizor?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>mfw Mega Lucarios and Mewtwos use Aura Sphere on Mega Banette
Anonymous
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>>14881997 focus sash
>or lefovers Anonymous
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>Person starts with SB Blaziken >Send out my Gardevoir >Trace SB >Proceed to sweep his team >mfw
Anonymous
are ranked battles on wifi 6v6 and legendaries banned?
Anonymous
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current goodra
Anonymous
>>14882541 flying gem isn't in the game anymore
Anonymous
Anonymous
So, where can you find leftovers in X/Y?
Anonymous
Hey I spent hours getting an adamant super size pumkaboo but I have no idea where to distribute his stats since no one has a moves list. Can I please get some help?
Anonymous
Zig 2723-8832-2351
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>>14882124 Vensaur
Garchomp
Blaziken
Any Eeveelution aside from Flareon
Alakazam
Greninja
Remember, Smogon and Serebii are your friends. Look up which natures are best for the pokemon you're running with. The team I listed has pretty great stats, and will help you learn the ropes with minimum risk. I'll let you figure out the movesets.
Serebii has every move a pokemon can learn on its specific page, and Smogon has recommend nature/moveset combos for every pokemon in the book.
You should decide a moveset after you look at their stats, so, since Vensaur is slow and defensive, maybe you want to run Toxic/ Leech Seed/ Giga Drain/ Sleep Powder.
You get the idea. Good luck.
Anonymous
Is Venusaur seriously only meant to be played as permaweather? I loved Mega Venusaur ever since the first day I saw him and picked the Venu stone on day one, one of my first battles he tanked a drought flamethrower from Charizard, but when I ask for optimal builds to EV train people just tell me to not even bother if there's no Chlorophyll.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>14882356 No egg moves to shoot for like dragon dance or the fangs?
And how do you get a DW ability?
Anonymous
>>14881045 >running a fire weak pokemon LEL
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>14882835 Seriously does anyone know this qt's base stats?
Anonymous
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>>14881181 Choice scarf Garchomp
Anonymous
Why is azumarill suddenly popular again?
Anonymous
>>14882563 >Mega Blazikiens who use hi-jump kick on Aegislash Anonymous
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>>14882948 Fairy
MegaChicken counter
Anonymous
>>14882948 He got a Sp. Atk buff and he counters Mega Blaziken like a mad thing
Anonymous
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>>14881997 Baton pass some speed onto him, give him shadow sneak. Use him mostly on dragons or water types as well as certain psychics.
Be sure you give him nothing but
defense EVs. :^)
Raven (Y: Ezekiel) 5214-9979-6838
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>>14882835 HP for sure, since Super size raises HP and lowers speed.
Maybe Defense as well.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
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>>14882707 Ranked battles are 3v3, legendaries are banned.
Anonymous
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>>14880858 >How many times has a Blaziken swept your team? That thing you posted is the best thing against Blaziken.
Anonymous
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Suggestions for a Trevenant moveset?
Anonymous
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So I caught a Timid Mewtwo, which is fucking gay because I wanted to use the X Stone. What should I do now?
Anonymous
>>14882874 They're full of shit. With the nerf to weather and his mega losing two weaknesses, he's a more dangerous tank than before. Helps that his poison typing gives him an extra resistance this gen.
Anonymous
>>14882976 >He got a Sp. Atk buff How much are we talking here?
Anonymous
>>14882967 >Dragons using outrage on Fairies Anonymous
>People lead with Blaziken into my DD Dragonite >I set up 2 dances while they can't do anything >Dragon Claw everything to death
Zig 2723-8832-2351
>>14882368 Here's one. I'm planning to build a Gogoat after seeing this guy's. Made for a need encounter. Do you think he was running HP EVs, or defense EVs?
SV7W-WWWW-WWWX-GJAW
Anonymous
>>14883166 Is Outrage even worth using over Dragon Claw or something with the Fairy switch so obvious?
Anonymous
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>>14883139 I don't happen to know off the top of my head, sorry bro
Anonymous
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>>14883219 No, use dragon claw.
Anonymous
>trying to find a good Scyther for my team >first 4 I catch have natures that detract from attack or speed >5th is adamant >check its IVs >28/0/20/26/18/0
Anonymous
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>>14882976 >Sp.Att buff mattering on a physical attacker with Huge Power Anonymous
is a counter wobbuffet a good counter to speed boost blaziken?
Anonymous
>>14883117 How does this sound for running Venusaur with the Stone?
Ability: Overgrow (Thick Fat)
IV: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDef
Nature: Calm
- Synthesis / Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
Anonymous
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>>14883185 >megachicken sets up sd >megachicken rapes your dragonite in turn 2 with one of the plethora of physical attacks he can learn Anonymous
> take my ingame bros online > do surprisingly good.
Anonymous
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>>14883413 He might boost to +6 and OHKO you unless you use Destiny Bond.
>>14883506 Sludge Bomb over Synthesis. You have enough health to gain through your other two moves and SB gives you an option against grass and fairies.
Zig 2723-8832-2351
>>14883611 Are you running ranked or free?
Cohnur [2148 - 9176 - 7873]
Any advice on where to grind? I've already battled my rival today and i'm kinda clueless
Anonymous
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Is there a move that nullifies the Fairy-type's Dragon immunity like Gravity on Flying-types or Odor Sleuth on Ghost-types?
Anonymous
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>>14883659 Free.
Keep in mind I EV trained them with super training so that must be it
Anonymous
>>14883695 Restaurant battles (3* rotation is good if you have multiple to level up and have something way overleveled)
Battle Chateau once you get to a high enough rank, audino trainers begin to appear that you can further beef up with challenge writs
Tigrex 3480 3702 1922 - Bug - Beautifly - Vivillon - Butterfree
Tigrex 3480 3702 1922 - Bug - Beautifly - Vivillon - Butterfree Sun 20 Oct 2013 03:31:03 No. 14883821 Report How do you guys even level up?
Anonymous
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>>14883821 see
>>14883758 If you're just going to 50, that's fine. To 100 you should probably just trade poke miles for rare candies.
JHawk: 3153-3396-7729 ; Ghost !tr.t4dJfuU
JHawk: 3153-3396-7729 ; Ghost !tr.t4dJfuU Sun 20 Oct 2013 03:32:38 No. 14883909 Report I was planning on using a Volcarona on my team as my special sweeper, but seeing as it can't get Giga Drain in this generation to my knowledge what are some other viable OU Special Sweepers now?
Anonymous
TRSM 4854-6447-5184 (Corsola, Dwebble, Barbaracle)
TRSM 4854-6447-5184 (Corsola, Dwebble, Barbaracle) Sun 20 Oct 2013 03:36:01 No. 14884077 Report Quoted By:
Did a battle with a guy at my yugioh locals today, he chose double so that was meh. He led with Mewtwo and Yveltal, my with Furfrou and Talonflame, TWave the Yveltal, U-turn from the mewtwo, took down mewtwo fast, yveltal lasted until the end thanks to oblivion wing one shot his gengar with Furfrou Sucker Punch eventually got to his Blaziken vs my Medicham and Reuniclis, he one shot my Cham and I psychic'd his blaziken. Fun match
Anonymous
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>>14883909 Espeon.
Bitch gets dazzling gleam which is a big fuck you to dark types
Balm 2680-9607-7880 (Psy safari: wobufet, abra, duosion)
Balm 2680-9607-7880 (Psy safari: wobufet, abra, duosion) Sun 20 Oct 2013 03:37:59 No. 14884175 Report >>14883344 how do you check its exact IVs?
Anonymous
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>>14884175 It has known base stats, so just see what they're at with autolevel 50 and calc with it
Anonymous
I'm having trouble thinking up the right set for my Gliscor. My planned team so far is.
Anonymous
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How important are IV's? Should I put in the time to breed for max ones?
Anonymous
>>14884303 >252 hp 252 def sword dance aegislash >actually using sticky web galvantula >no stealth rock user >using something 4x weak to fairy type that is completely walled by that same type >using something as overpowered as mega gengar toppest of lels
Anonymous
>>14884303 Sub, Roost, EQ and Ice Fang
Also where did you find a Gligar?
Anonymous
I don't EV train or really put any effort toward making a competitively-viable team, but I went into Battle Spot the other night and had some laughs from ragequitting elevens due to my Shedinja. I have a quick claw on it with phantom force and toxic, and through sheer luck I've managed to wreck some of the typical parties (Yveltal/Mewtwo/Blaziken/Charizard/Lucario/etc.) with it during the last down-to-the-wire one-on-one moments of battle, which almost always resulted in a disconnect just before faint.
Anonymous
Is Aegislash.. worth it? I saw people commenting how running an Eviolite Doublade was better.
Anonymous
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I had a laugh at his Aegislash. It was too fast for its own good.
Anonymous
>>14884710 Do disconnects prevent you from getting a win?
Anonymous
>>14884641 I've actually tested this set on showdown quite a few times. Its pretty powerful especially with Sticky Web Galvantula.
>Relaxed 252 Def Aegislash has worked well so far, though I am flexible when it comes to EV distribution/nature. >Gliscor can learn Stealth Rock, though I've had no need for it so far >Thats why Hydreigon has U-Turn, and works well with Aegislash, and Shadow Tag Gengar Anonymous
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>>14883207 It took the hits like a champ, but I just don't like Gogoat.
Anonymous
With all these ghost types I decided it'd be fun to try to make a ghost team revolving around trick or treat and trick room. So my team is Rotom, Gourgesit, Golett, Litwick, Spiritomb. I need a 6th slot and I'm not sure what to use. Any good suggestions? It has to be a ghost type though.
X: Sheldon 3308 - 4593 - 9899 !rHutTKu1dI
X: Sheldon 3308 - 4593 - 9899 !rHutTKu1dI Sun 20 Oct 2013 03:52:48 No. 14884848 Report Quoted By:
Just starting competitive team building for the first time.
Anonymous
>>14884775 Also I'm definitely planning on using Sticky web either way, so do you have a actual suggestion on how to improve this team?
Anonymous
>>14884775 >relying on shadow tag gengar, something that will be banned soon >getting wrecked by any special fire/dark type. Mixed zoroark wrecks half your team >thinking that current showdown is a good show of if your team is any good or not Anonymous
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>>14884770 I wasn't playing ranked matches. I don't think the stats in free battle are even tracked, which is why I find disconnects in free battle so hilarious.
Anonymous
>>14884762 If you want a wall, Doublade. If you want a high risk, high reward attacker, Aegislash.
X: Sheldon 3308 - 4593 - 9899 !rHutTKu1dI
X: Sheldon 3308 - 4593 - 9899 !rHutTKu1dI Sun 20 Oct 2013 03:54:04 No. 14884900 Report Anonymous
>>14884858 Replace Hydreigon, thats my advice.
Anonymous
>>14884906 Hydreigon has good synergy with Aegislash though, and is pretty powerful with Sticky Web support.
Also what do you think I should replace it with?
Anonymous
>>14884900 Golett evolves into Golurk
Anonymous
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>>14883219 Dragon Claw is better now that Fairies exist.
The only reason Outrage even got its Button reputation is because the coverage was retarded and anything that got hit by it was guaranteed to bleed, even if it was steel.
Anonymous
I really want to use megatoise but i think he's just a clawitzer?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14884860 Banned from where? Official Ranked battles? Or Autisgon forums?
Cohnur [2148 - 9176 - 7873]
Nature/Moveset for Clawitzer? I'm not good with EVs but I was guessing Sp. Att and Speed
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14884967 Right now I'd swap it for some other dragon like noivern and get a lati in december
Anonymous
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Suicide Lead Galvantula, the one everyone is using.M-Blaziken
Anonymous
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>>14885010 You are right.
Better off with a Clawitzer for the ability, so you don't waste a mega evo.
Anonymous
>>14884864 Suggestions for EV spreads?
Anonymous
>>14885057 >thinking anyone will do a 6v6 against you when you have mega gengar I wouldn't.
Anonymous
>>14885089 Eh.. I'll consider Noivern, but I have a thing against using Legendaries. Yeah I know, its stupid.
Anonymous
>>14885146 >6v6 Only 3v3 in ranked battles.
Anonymous
>>14880858 >A win been lost due to a disconnection? DC results in a win for you
>A smogofag wrecked you or been wrecked? Oh I get it, this is "karenfaggotry teambuilding general", not actual competitive team building
sage
Eric 0877-0591-4878 (Pancham, Mienfoo, Riolu)
Eric 0877-0591-4878 (Pancham, Mienfoo, Riolu) Sun 20 Oct 2013 04:00:38 No. 14885234 Report Quoted By:
>>14885073 He's slow as fuck, HP might be better than speed. His Sp.D is good too, but HP would be more versatile.
Anonymous
>>14884986 use shedinja with focus sash and shadow sneak. guaranteed first hit, and can take 2 ko's
Anonymous
In super training, is there a way to see how many points your put into a stat? I've been pumping my Pupitar with attack, but I forgot that it will max at 255 and not 252 if I don't do something about it.
Anonymous
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>>14885073 Modest
Aura Sphere
Water Pulse
Dragon Pulse/Ice Beam
Dark Pulse/Aqua Jet
Clawitzer has shit speed, so I'd guess that its better to invest in HP.
Anonymous
>>14885265 EVs now cap at 252, you can't go over.
Anonymous
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What's the best moveset for Barbaracle? Right now I'm planning to goI hate that it can't get Crabhammer or Waterfall
Anonymous
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>>14885211 >3v3s You still get wrecked by zoroark.
Anonymous
>>14885265 It maxes at 252, don't worry. You can just save and use a reset bag to find out exactly how many EVs it has, though.
Anonymous
>>14885150 Noivern isnt a legendary
Anonymous
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>>14885137 I honestly haven't played X or Y yet, but based from what I've seen on stats I would say max out HP and Sp.Def or Att depending if you want it to be more offensive or defensive.
Anonymous
>>14885377 Talking about Latios.
Anonymous
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>>14885232 You took a lot of offense to that.
Anonymous
What would be a good build for Infiltration Noivern?
Anonymous
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>>14885404 Whoops. Missread.
Anonymous
Is Dragonite worth the effort without Multiscale
Eddie 1590-4969-5089 (Ghost Type Phantump, Shuppet, Drifblim)
Eddie 1590-4969-5089 (Ghost Type Phantump, Shuppet, Drifblim) Sun 20 Oct 2013 04:07:49 No. 14885587 Report Quoted By:
>>14882436 This, the only people I've battled online have been swept, by my Ageislash.
Anonymous
>>14885445 Choice Scarf/Specs
Draco Meteor
Hurricane/Boomburst
U-Turn
Flamethrower/Focus Blast
You could stick a Life Orb on him and drop one of the moves for Roost too. Or run Taunt/Roost/Boomburst/Dragon Pulse or U-Turn with lefties.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14885698 Sounds good, EVs?
Spe and SP Atk?
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>>14885528 Not even close. He's useless without it.
Anonymous
>>14885790 No. Def and SpD.
Anonymous
>>14885445 Max SpA and Spe with Timid if you have it.
Anonymous
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>>14885235 I like that. So then max the attack but then what else do I do?
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can anyone trade me a rotom?
Anonymous
I'm trying to run a Subpunch Gengar and I realized how shitty of an idea this is, but only after seeing that I don't have access to Focus Punch in this gen.
Anonymous
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>>14885838 Hasty.
But it shouldn't make much difference if we are going 2fast
Anonymous
I don't really know if this guy is worth training, but does anyone know of a decent build for him?
Anonymous
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>Have mega gengar >max hp/def Avalugg coupled with max hp/sdef Blissey
Anonymous
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Hey does anyone have a gastrodon, corsola with recover? thinking of breeding a quagsire.
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>>14885918 If you're using Zor, you could get away with setting up a sub as a guise to boost. From there you can use disable, pain split, or just sweep with three of his many attacks.
Anonymous
I'm new to competitive battling (been using Showdown so new to competitive cartridge battles) and I don't know how to get a Venusaur to get Giga Drain. How do you get one to learn it and what's the best nature and EV's for a Venusaur? The one I got in Lumiose has a shit nature that decreases its defence and ups its speed so I want to start fresh.
Anonymous
>>14885960 Nah, I'm already running a team of Alakazam/Gyarados/two others
That with Gengar/Zoroark, I'm trying to run a team that keeps the opponent guessing. I'm probably gonna use Alakazite if anything.
>>14885983 Unburden, enough speed to devastate enough speed tiers, and your choice between physical and special for the sake of both of its offenses not being very good, but not very different
Anonymous
>>14885983 Smogon came up with an Unburden sweeper that seemed good on paper. He has a good special move pool so it was basically Calm Mind until berry (the ones for weakening super effective attacks) activates and sweep.
Anonymous
>>14885983 Either a cleric with Wish/Draining Kiss/Aromatherapy/Toxic or Flamethrower
or you could run a Calm Mind set with Unburden which would be Calm Mind / Draining Kiss (or Dazzling Gleam if you don't mind the lack of recovery) / then two coverage moves from Thunderbolt / Flamethrower / Surf / Energy Ball / Psychic
Anonymous
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>>14886137 >>14886181 >>14886222 Thank you, you guys are awesome.
Anonymous
I've got a shiny Shuppet I want to use. However it has a neutral nature (Docile).
How should I train him, and what moves should I use?
pic can be found here
>>14885070 On a somewhat related note, what does shiny mega Banette look like, and can I change my system clock to unlock megastones, or does that not work?
Anonymous
I need some help building my team. So far its:
Anonymous
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>>14886354 I should also mention I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff so I don't really know what I'm doing or what he's good for.
Anonymous
>>14886381 >mega-blaziken Well then, how about Xerneas and Yveltal for the last slots?
Anonymous
>>14886432 Im trying to not have any legendarys on the team
Anonymous
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Does clawitzer get any good recovery options or is it stuck to protect and leftovers?
Anonymous
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>>14880858 You have to predict like your life depends on it for this guy to do well or he gets melted by just about anything in attack mode.
Anonymous
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>>14886354 Don't change your system clock, it stops all time based events for 72 hours.
Anonymous
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Gliscor has been a godsend. He can deal with the hyper offense very well and even safely sub/sword dance baton pass under massive amounts of pressure.
Zach: 2208 5570 0613
>>14886461 Blaziken > Legendaries
Anonymous
What item is good on a Modest Protean Greninja? Expert belt?
Anonymous
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why can i only use 3 pokemon in rated battles this is bullshit
Anonymous
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>>14886641 I know blaziken is an uber class but I just dont want any legendarys on the team is all
Anonymous
>>14886692 Probably Life Orb, Greninja wants all the power it can get
Or Choice Scarf if you want to stick U-Turn on it and let it scout and revenge kill shit
Anonymous
What's a good Yveltal counter?
Anonymous
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Is there a way to get Disable on Gengar that doesn't involve breeding?
Anonymous
>>14886841 What's a good Yveltal counter that can be gotten in game?
(I'm not sure how Terrakion will work when they carry that flying move so often either)
Anonymous
>>14880858 not really a competetive battler, but sometimes a passerby will challenge me to a battle and I'll say screw it.
I go full 9 year old and roll with a Kingdra, Goodra, and Mega Charizard X. Most of the time the person challenging me is using a Talonflame with a bunch of eggs and spams bravebird, but sometimes it's a jap using nothing but legendaries.
Then the blazikens come out. Everytime I fight one though they forget Goodra has a cranked Sp. Def and get swept out the room.
Why do japs insist on using legendaries? I had one use a mega mewtwo and all he did was use recover until it ran out of PP
Anonymous
>>14886803 Tyranitar walls any set without Focus Blast and KOs with Stone Edge
Anonymous
>>14885983 So unburden is the only thing this guy has over clefable, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14886875 Terrakion can actually nearly OHKO most of the time with stone edge and there's not much that Yveltal can do in return besides try to set up in his sub. Tyranitar is also good against almost every Yveltal set
Anonymous
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>>14886949 Higher Speed and Special Attack too
Anonymous
>>14886762 U-Turn
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Sound good?
Anonymous
>>14886942 >>14886997 Neat.
Now I have to raise yet ANOTHER t-tar (or wait till December)
Anonymous
Figure this is the best thread to ask this.
Anonymous
>>14887050 Or Hydro Pump > Surf but yeah
Anonymous
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I was bored and fucking around with the new guys on showdown. This looks like it might be fun.Think technician mime will get it?
Anonymous
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>>14887157 They're not really that deep.
Anonymous
>>14887165 Actually, would Energy Ball be a better choice over Grass Knot?
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I have>Gardevoir >Lucario >blaziken >aegislash >venosaur >talon flame >greninja >Tyrunt (about to evolve, night now :( ) >beartic >Haunter (gengar with Gengarite soon)
Anonymous
>>14887157 >Where should I start? There are all kinds of guides on places like Smogon, Serebii, Bulbapedia etc. Try re-reading them or whatever, they will be helpful and it's not too confusing once you get the basics down.
>Is there a good level to start doing the training? Straight from the egg is best.
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>>14887067 I am in this same boat, only for different mons
I want my bro's now, but don't want to invest the time it would take when I could just wait to move them up
Anonymous
I have no idea what i'm doing with this considering its just mostly favorites so I need some help
Anonymous
>>14887212 I'd rather run Dark Pulse to be honest as it would hit things like Starmie/Jellicent/Tentacruel considerably harder, or HP Fire if you can get it. Energy Ball v Grass Knot varies, though I tend to prefer E-Ball for its higher effectiveness on things like Starmie again, and Vaporeon.
Anonymous
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>>14887157 Try youtube videos
Anonymous
>>14887237 Thanks, I'll give 'em a shot again.
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So I played my first online match (free) and one. It was really exciting. The team I used was all pokemon I liked, but I made sure they were well balanced, decently EV trained, and had good natures and movesets. Could you guys give me some suggestions on how I can improve my team without changing the pokemon on it?
Anonymous
Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)
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sup cunts
Anonymous
>>14887381 I don't know if it'd help to have a visual, but here you go. EVs are basically "add on" points, 4 EVs gets you one add on point at level 100.
Anonymous
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>>14887332 I'm gonna take your advice and run Dark Pulse instead, thanks.
Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)
sup cunts
Anonymous
>>14887474 >having to reset EVs at 252 SATK and 219 SPE that sucks bruh, i guess berries are too hard to find? you would've just needed 4 to be honest
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>>14887641 I actually just did it at that point to demonstrate the principle at 100. IV rater tells me its SpA IV is shit anyway.
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>>14882948 Belly drum+aqua jet is legal now from what I understand
Anonymous
>Get back into Pokemon after quitting with a shitload of time on Ruby, just being a casual >Getting addicted as fuck to breeding and shiny hunting >Getting addicted as fuck to breeding perfect Pokemon and making a good team now
Anonymous
>>14887618 It'll probably stay a terror in UU, not in the least because of its newfound power over fairies (even Mawile/Klefki thanks to Earth Power). Still can't compete with the higher ups but it'll still be a nice threat to lower tiers.
Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)
>>14887732 yes, natures have a bigger impact than IVs
Anonymous
>>14887732 If you're breeding, nature should be the first thing you get right.
Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)
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>>14887783 i suppose there will be better poison STAB users like gengar
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>>14887732 If you want a speedier Delphox, breed away. However, you could also salvage this one and make it into a special wall.
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>>14887787 >>14887805 And just when I thought I was taking a break from riding in front of the Day Care Center. Thanks for the help, guys.
Anonymous
What's a good nature for a tanky offense Dragalge?
Anonymous
Any better Clawitzer setup than
Anonymous
Adamant Tyrantum with 252 HP/Atk is the way to go, right?
Anonymous
>>14887783 Nidoking is pretty great lategame if you have good paralysis support, but I could see him getting more usage because of Sticky Web. His power and movepool have really saved me from some tight spots.
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>>14887922 Adamant 252 HP/252 ATK tyrantrum with Weakness policy is what I've been using.
Nobody expects it.
Anonymous
I've been messing around rather than completing the E4
Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)
>>14887930 yeah hes coverage is amazing and his power can stand up to standard teir stuff with life orb
i was wondering if he had a new niche as a fairy slayer
Anonymous
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>>14887863 Modest, or depending on how bulky you want to go, Calm
>>14887880 Life Orb
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>>14888013 It did in Gen V, can't speak for 6 as I haven't started training mine yet.
Anonymous
Does super effective stealth rock damage proc weakness policy?
Anonymous
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>>14888014 I don't see why not, especially with most of the fairies being slow already. The only complaint I have about him is how retarded he looks in the game. He was menacing in the previous installments compared to now.
Anonymous
If I want to give my 5 perfect IVs to a mammoswine but also need to breed icicle crash onto him, what is the order I want to do all of this?
Anonymous
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>>14888166 Get one with good IVs, then you can use Destiny Knot to pass them onto whatever you want alongside the egg moves.
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>>14882932 It fucking learns Trick-or-Treat 4 separate times.
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>using Talonflame >swords dance >brave bird >OHKO everything >communication error
Anonymous
>>14888145 Whoa that could be potent. I really hope it does. I like that item, really interesting.
Anonymous
What's a good EV spread for T-Tar?
Anonymous
Is Salamence still relevant or should I stop breeding for it?
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>>14888456 It isn't triggered from status moves (Will O, Toxic, etc) so it's not looking likely that it will from entry hazards. Still saving up BP for it anyway.
>>14888463 Depends what role you want it to fulfill. You'll want at least a little speed, and if it's bulky a lot of HP.
>>14888492 Very relevant.
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>>14888492 He's always relevant
Just remember to pack Fire blast for those walls and Aegislash
Anonymous
>>14888492 Like all Dragon-types it's taken a hit but it's still pretty damn powerful.
Silent 3969 4267 4070 (Psychic: Grumpig/Espurr/Girafarig)
Silent 3969 4267 4070 (Psychic: Grumpig/Espurr/Girafarig) Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:18:10 No. 14888635 Report Quoted By:
>>14886803 So far I haven't had a single problem killing any of the ones I have random battled. Moonblast/Play Rough eat it's face, so does sneaky stones, stone edge, and the list goes on.
Anonymous
This is what I've got so far. I sort of want to make the last slot Chatot because it is one of my favorites, but I feel like I might need a pokemon that can use fire attacks.
Meesh/Morgan Poison: (Seviper, LITERAL Trashmon, and Whirlipede): 3711-7440-5015
Meesh/Morgan Poison: (Seviper, LITERAL Trashmon, and Whirlipede): 3711-7440-5015 Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:18:40 No. 14888666 Report Quoted By:
>>14882030 Unless it's a defensive Charzard (Just pointing out a possibility) a sunboosted flare blitz from said Blaziken should 1HKO it.
Meesh/Morgan Poison: (Seviper, LITERAL Trashmon, and Whirlipede): 3711-7440-5015
Meesh/Morgan Poison: (Seviper, LITERAL Trashmon, and Whirlipede): 3711-7440-5015 Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:20:07 No. 14888722 Report >>14888659 Check your pokemon for HP fire, maybe?
Also, doesn't slowking learn Flamethrower?
Silent 3969 4267 4070 (Psychic: Grumpig/Espurr/Girafarig)
Silent 3969 4267 4070 (Psychic: Grumpig/Espurr/Girafarig) Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:20:59 No. 14888765 Report Quoted By:
>>14886906 I've noticed that as well.
Best part was a jap that used and Ylvetal and then proceeded to forget dragon rush doesn't work on a Mawile.
I've actually been having a lot of fun on free matches just using Noivern/Mega Mawile together.
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>>14888607 I dunno, so far only Togekiss and Azumarill fucks him up if you're caught unboosted or locked into outrage
M.Gards can also catch you off guard, though it has speed issues
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Is there a way to do lvl 100 online battles? this lvl 50 shit is weak.
Anonymous
>>14888722 Nope, no Fire HP.
I was planning on going Slowbro for more of a physical defender. Although he can learn Flamethrower and Fireblast from TMs.
Anonymous
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I'm really liking mega mawile but I'm not sure how competitive it is.
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>>14883926 > thick fat > no leftover support Double lel
Anonymous
>enemy mega scizor was running hidden power fire
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>>14888659 Garchomp gets Fire Blast
Greninja works very well with HP Fire if you've got it
Anonymous
Golurk or Noivern? I already have a Ghost type in my party, though I suspect ghost time is the least disadvantageous to have duplicates of.
Anonymous
Eviolite Scyther or Mega Scizormore fun?
Anonymous
god damn I want to run mega absol but I don't think it would be good without superpower to prevent getting walled, any other good ways to get around dark-resistant stuff?
Meesh/Morgan Poison: (Seviper, LITERAL Trashmon, and Whirlipede): 3711-7440-5015
Meesh/Morgan Poison: (Seviper, LITERAL Trashmon, and Whirlipede): 3711-7440-5015 Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:26:40 No. 14889013 Report >>14888898 Yeah- Slowbro is better. I stroked for a second there.
But yeah, teach that bro a firetype move and go wild with your Chatot. Does it learn Boomburst? Could run a specs set on it.
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>>14888978 Noivern is a fun scout/revenge killer thanks to it having sanic levels of speed.
Just have to look out for sneaky stones. Haven't used Golurk though so I am biased obviously.
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>>14887311 > not using U-turn on Greninja > using Chesnaught at all > King's shield over Protect into the trash it goes
Anonymous
>>14888936 Lemme guess, for Forretress? Also, affected by technician right?
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>>14889009 Choice Band/ Life Orb Scyther nigga
Aerial Ace all day.
Anonymous
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>>14889012 Psycho Cut hits anything that isn't steel, and Fire Blast too thanks to its buffed SpA
>>14888978 They fill totally different roles. Golurk is bulky and can set up rocks, while Noivern is a fast scout that hits hard with Draco and Boomburst. It depends on what your team needs more.
Anonymous
>>14888978 Two very different Pokemon: One's a fast sweeper/scouter and the other is a good subpuncher. Really depends on the rest of your team and your main strategy.
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>>14880982 A max Def/S. Def Shuckle with Double Team and Leftovers.
Anonymous
What are the most viable fairies that aren't Azumarill? Is Klefki any good?
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>>14889009 Hyper Mode Scyther holding Focus Sash
>Swords Dance >Reversal >Quick Attack >Aerial Ace Have fun.
Anonymous
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>>14889061 >yfw Scizor now has Flamethrower due to the HP nerf Anonymous
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...What's up with all the casuals?
Anonymous
17-1 at the moment, one loss to an extremely close game to an opponent I have no regrets losing to. Apparently Gliscor takes like 40% from +2 Brave Ageislash Shadow Sneak. My team thus far, still have another three spots to work with:
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>>14889013 Nope. No Boomburst. Was sort of thinking of running it like klefki and have an annoying build with protect, toxic, chatter, and encore.
But his stats are really low. Maybe I should consider a Heracross or Scizor or Mamoswine like I was also thinking.
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>>14889147 For priority Spikes and Calm minds
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So, i have a question. What is the best moveset, nature and ability for
Anonymous
>>14889260 How's Power-up Punch working out for you? It's great in theory and I really want to get it working but I can't figure out the best way to apply it.
Anonymous
New to the competitive battling scene. Shit is intense. Not at all familiar with Smogon rules, power rankings, or whatever. Rockin with a mega gengar, tyrantrum, and whatever helps me win.
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>>14889315 Smogon rules are pretty lenient, the only things that are really banned are stuff like Double team or Sand Veil or Moody that are just insanely broken.
Anonymous
>>14889304 PUP gives an attack boost for each Parental Bond hit; basically, it's a Swords Dance attached to a 70BP move.
Anonymous
>>14889107 A Trick or Treating Gourgeist (my suprisingly powerful pokebro)
A Baton-Pass/Speed Boost Blaziken (Non-Mega)
Mega Mawile
Aqua Ring/Acid Armor/Baton Pass Vaporeon
And Malamar, who isn't as useful as I imagined they'd be.
I'm guessing Noivern would be best to round out my group.
Though I think I would have taken Sylveon/(Mega Gyarados) if I had known at the time it was a superior passer... I'm on the 6th gym... I guess I still could.
There's always Z to plan for.
Anonymous
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>>14889061 Yep.
He was running fucking mixed Mega Scizor.
He basically had flamethrower.
Anonymous
>>14889394 >>14889436 Except this isnt true because it only levels up once per hit, where as swords dance is two levels.
Jacob 4184 2254 1268 Ice: Delibird Sneasel Cloyster
Jacob 4184 2254 1268 Ice: Delibird Sneasel Cloyster Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:37:23 No. 14889473 Report >>14882072 If you base a team around one poke, the other ones have to counter or check that main pokes weaknesses.
Like scizor. Weakness to fire so rain dance is effective in supporting him. Think of things like that.
Anonymous
>>14889456 And Parental Bond makes each move of Megaskhan hit twice, thus a total increase of two stages.
Anonymous
>>14889533 In that one case.
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>>14889147 Togekiss, Gardevoir and Mawile.
Klefki will have an interesting niche as priority spiker, but it'll probably be UU at best.
Anonymous
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>>14889433 Sounds fine to me, though Malamar on a Baton Pass team seems counter productive.
Anonymous
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>>14889561 Which is the case we were discussing.
Anonymous
>>14889433 >Vaporeon >Mega Mawile How's the combo working out anywho? I was thinking of making my threes Mega Mawile, Noivern (or Garchomp), and SubToxic Vaporeon.
If I do take Vaporeon I will probably go Garchomp though.
Anonymous
>>14889260 Trick room?
Marowak@thick club.
Also Bronzong does well in trick rooms.
Ambipom is pretty good for an after trick room clean up crew, chuck ice punch on it. cleans up dragons nicely too.
Anonymous
Do any of you guys use Mega Houndoom? Is he competent at all?
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>>14881169 I ran calm mind on mine instead of grass knot, your mileage may vary
Anonymous
>>14889473 Not him but I want to base a team around Protean Greninja, because he's a motherfucking Ninja Frog.
So, something that would counter Greninja would be electric or grass pokemon. For Electric, would a Jolteon make a good partner with his lightningrod ability? Or a Electivire with Motor Drive?
Or seeing as how he's very frail, have a partner like Aegislash or Scizor to take a hit for him?
Is this the correct line of thinking?
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>>14889612 Eh, he hits hard, but it doesn't feel worth using him over another mega.
Anonymous
>>14889604 It's not really a TR team, I just have a hard-on for that Reinculus set and jam it in whenever I can. As it happens, Aegislash happens to be slow and Kangaskhan has Sucker Punch for the things it outsped, so it's not interfering too much with the rest of the team. But thanks for the suggestions.
Anonymous
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>>14889612 He's good but there are better options for your Megavolution
Anonymous
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>>14881169 I'd rather use Psyshock than Psychic, and Fire Blast rather than Flamethrower.
Delphox makes a really good Scarfer too, if you want to drop Shadow Ball for Switcheroo.
Jacob 4184 2254 1268 Ice: Delibird Sneasel Cloyster
Jacob 4184 2254 1268 Ice: Delibird Sneasel Cloyster Sun 20 Oct 2013 05:46:48 No. 14889869 Report Quoted By:
>>14889654 For type weaknesses yes, but there's more things to think about. Like think about what your protean greninja does functionally, and then think of what you could send against it to stop it from doing its job. Now think of what they could do check their counter.
It requires a lot of prerequisite kknowlede and experience to KNOW what you should look out for.
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>>14889600 I do have a whole attack baton team on Black and a sp. attack baton team on Heartgold so I can mix and match later.
And I'm not sure about Mega Mawile because that's one of the Megas you don't get till postgame. The Pokedex kid just told me Clefable has a mega, but who knows if the stone is even in the game.
I've boxed so many pokemon in this runthrough.
Anonymous
Should I even bother with getting Mawile its Hidden Ability, if I plan on using it as my mega?
Anonymous
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>>14889612 It isn't the best Mega out there, but good enough to be worth using if you like it
Anonymous
>>14889881 No, but you should bother giving it Intimidate.
Anonymous
>>14889881 Nope, go with intimidate
Anonymous
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>>14889774 Ah no worries, I have a thing for trick room teams. it mostly stems from Marowak being my favourite and figuring a way to use him haha.
Anonymous
>>14889881 Mawile prefers Intimidate if it's Mega, to give it a little extra bulk and help it set up.
Anonymous
>>14889600 My Vaporeon is Scald/BatonPass/AquaRing/AcidArmor and works great with my Blaziken and Supersize Gourgeist. 2xperiodic heals with it's leech seed.
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>>14889976 >>14889930 >>14889922 Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks, guys.
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>>14889654 You want something that can handle things that Greninja can't
e.g. Fairies, which it can't touch at all outside of U-Turning to something better (a steel type for example). Greninja would work really well with Heatran, but unfortunately that isn't released yet.
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>>14889881 mawile's best ability is intimidate.
Basically it means you have two abilities when you send it out. Intimidate to cut the attack of whatever you switch into, and then huge power to hit back like a train.
Anonymous
>>14890008 Ah, thanks for the tip. Gourgeist was one of the other pokemon I was really looking into actually. As long as I can use my mega Mawile I am happy, the trick is now just getting the stuff to go with. Will have to try those two out together. I assume the Gourgeist is running Wisp too?
Anonymous
So how many battles do you have to win in the battle maison to reach the leader? I need m-muh BP.
Anonymous
>>14890235 If you're looking for a partner to MegaWile, Salamence.
Non-MegaWile can juggle intimidates with Sala to fuck with physical attackers. Steel/Fairy and Dragon/Flying is an almost perfect duo, resisting every single type in the game bar electric and ghost (which hit them both neutral). Salamence also lures in steel types that worry MegaWile and can decimate them with Fire Blast (eg Ferrothorn), and will also draw fairies that give MegaWile free set-up.
Overall they're a very potent offensive core.
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>>14890350 50, she has the Genie Trio.
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How do I prevent my Alakazam from getting rekt by Shadow Sneak?
Anonymous
>>14890235 You'd think so, since it has nice defense, but it has nice attack too so I've just been killing everything with Trickortreat and shadow sneak. It's the only pokemon that learns the enemy-type-change move that makes it's STAB attacks super-effective (or at least negating resistance) to.
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Not really too experienced with breeding, to be honest, but I've got one Protean Froakie and a Ditto. Would that guarantee Protean Froakie eggs? I gotta breed it anyways for natures.
Anonymous
>>14890397 greninja guy here.
Wouldn't Mawile pair up fantastically with Greninja?
It's Steel so that counters fairies, and it's a fairy itself so it can fuck Dragons, then like you said add Salamence, and I think I am starting to look at a cool team.
Bear in mind I am a complete newb to comp battling, so
.....actually
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>>14890397 Yeah, I noticed that type combo is heaven with a MegaMaw, since I run a Boomburst/Uturn/Hurricane/Draco Meteor Noivern with her. I will give salamence a shot as well though. That said, with her rather rough speed and HP, I am considering swapping out Swords Dance/Taunt for a brick break. That and not sure what move on Noivern to swap out for Fire Blast.
>>14890446 Ah, good point. Yeah, It definitely seems like a really fun pokemon worth trying, especially since trick or treat makes typing a null point.
Anonymous
Is the global link server busy for anyone else?
>>14890446 Does Trick-or-Treat overwrite all other typings i.e can you hit a Normal type after Trick-or-Treating it?
Anonymous
>>14890684 Greninja also makes a nice core with Gourgeist, only having to worry about flying, fairy and dragon (all of which can go to Mawile). You can then throw in Salamence to break walls, and a fire type for a cool FWG core.
Anonymous
>>14890901 No, it adds it as a third typing. I also have seed bomb to take care of other types.
Anonymous
Speaking of Mawile, do you guys have any suggestions on what moves I should be giving it?
Anonymous
>>14891246 >fortress or heracross >trevenant uses forests curse does it become 6x weak to fire?
Anonymous
>>14890914 How about this Blaziken?
Adamant/Jolly Nature
252 ATK 252 Speed 4 HP
High Jump Kick
Flare Blitz
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Item: Life Orb
It can wreck shit and then baton pass sword dances to Greninja?
Anonymous
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>>14891288 Swords Dance | Sucker Punch | Iron Head | Play Rough
You could also throw on Brick Break for steel types, possibly Ice Punch. Foul Play is an interesting choice thanks to Huge Power.
Anonymous
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So wonder room.
Anonymous
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>>14891364 Greninja doesn't need the speed and is better off as a sp. attacker anyways. Garchomp would be a better choice.
Anonymous
life orb or choice band scizor?
Anonymous
I am new to competitive Pokemon. Where should I put my ev's in Draglge and Malamar. Right now I have 252 in HP for both of them but I have no idea where to place the rest.
Anonymous
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>>14889260 here) Fucking Gourgeist man, just got trounced by one. It gets Leech Seed AND Will-O-Wisp?
Anonymous
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>>14891986 Band fits onto teams more easily.
Anonymous
>>14892032 Depends on the natures. Dragalge wants to focus on Special Attack and Special Defense, Malamar wants to focus on Attack.
>>14892047 I'm breeding Pumpkaboos right now, SubSeedGeist is going to be amazing. As a bonus, you can't even spin away the Seed because of his ghost typing.
Anonymous
>>14892168 > Can't spin away seeds > Want to use it on my team with Greninja > Greninja can learn Toxic Spikes trough breeding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIC2RV3YS0s Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14892168 The Dragalge is calm and the Malamar is quiet and im trying to salvage it because its a shiny i found in the wild.
I was thinking of putting special defense but I was thinking it would be too much.
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>>14892356 I can finally run ember on my team.
Anonymous
>>14892277 I'd rather regular Spikes to be honest. If you run Toxic Spikes, you limit what Gourgeist can hit with Will-O.
>tfw no friends with Protean Frogadiers Anonymous
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>>14892506 >not getting a Japanese Timid Protean Froakie with perfect Speed via Wonder Trade Anonymous
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>>14892506 Add me bro. I have a friend with those badboys and I caught one.
I'm gonna breed them pretty soon, so I'll trade you one.
Vyomesh = 3394-3691-8529
Anonymous
>>14892386 Calm Dragalge is good. You could max HP and then dump loads into Special Defense or Special Attack.
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Is Ice the new worst type in the game? Now it's Poison's time to shine.
Anonymous
>>14892506 And good point about Wisp though.
I'll just run spikes on him then. Wich is also fucing good in combination with Gourgeist
Anonymous
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>>14892729 thats just your normal entry hazard pus spinblocker combo lol why are you getting so damn hyped up about some tactic that's as old as entry hazards itself
Anonymous
>>14892665 should i split the special defense and special attack or just focus on one
Anonymous
Choice Scarf or Life Orb on the Protean?
Anonymous
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Should I even consider Meowstic on my team? I'd figure female, if at all.
Anonymous
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>>14893038 Depends what you want it to do. If it's more bulky, just max SpD. If you want it to dish some damage out as well, have at least a little SpA.
eg, 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD or maybe 252 HP / 40 SpA / 216 SpD
>>14893328 Life Orb definitely. Locking yourself into a move with Protean completely removes the mind-games and flexibility that Greninja can play with moves like Spikes/Ice Beam/Grass Knot/HP Fire etc.
