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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:18:35 No.14896940 View View Reply Original Report

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What do you guys think of this Barbaracle?

Barbarcle
Careful (+Sp. Def, -Sp. Atk)
Tough Claws
White Herb
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Sp. Def, 4 Def
- Shell Smash
- Bulk Up
- Razor Shell
- Stone Edge/Earthquake/Poison Jab/X-Scissor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:23:21 No.14897050 Report

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Getting there is no joy ride. My Binacle is getting outclassed by his peers, and has no good moves. Feels like a post gamer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:28:53 No.14897183 Report

Quoted By: >>14897305

>Careful
>Shell Smash AND Bulk Up
>Poison Jab/X-Scissor
God no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:33:28 No.14897297 Report

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Don't use 2 boosting moves. What the fuck are you doing?

Careful isn't ideal, either. I'd go for Adamant, probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:33:54 No.14897305 Report

Quoted By: >>14897491 >>14897493

>>14897183
I was thinking Cross Chop as well, but does it really have a good type coverage?

Also, is its speed really good enough to be buffed against opponents that much? Serebii seems to be saying its speed is awful.

Wouldn't X Scissor take care of grasses better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:40:39 No.14897491 Report

Quoted By: >>14897753

>>14897305
You're forgetting that Shell Smash doubles your speed. It isn't nearly as bad when it's doubled. I'd still probably run Adamant over Jolly, though.

He's wrong on Poison Jab / X-Scissor. Those are fine, but it depends on what sort of coverage your team needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:40:41 No.14897493 Report

Quoted By: >>14897539

>>14897305
>Does Fighting have good Coverage
Bug is also the shittiest Attacking type in the game and shouldn't be used on anything that isn't a Bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:42:25 No.14897539 Report

Quoted By: >>14897733

>>14897493
You have no idea what you're talking about.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:48:57 No.14897733 Report

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>>14897539
What in all hell would you be using Poison Jab or X-Scissor for when they offer narrow coverage and when SE are barely stronger than STAB Stone Edge, Cross Chop (Tough Claws) anyway, and are weaker than Razor Shell which gets both boosts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:49:42 No.14897753 Report

Quoted By: >>14897799 >>14897831

>>14897491
>You're forgetting that Shell Smash doubles your speed. It isn't nearly as bad when it's doubled.
Good point.

Not putting the 252 EVs in Sp. Def lowers it to 210. Is that enough for him to survive some special attackers, or if I make him a fast physical sweeper, would I have to keep him out of the way of Special attackers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:51:30 No.14897799 Report

Quoted By: >>14897821 >>14897836

>>14897753

Shell smash lowers your defences anyway man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:52:33 No.14897821 Report

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>>14897799
Yeah. If you're running Shell Smash you really just want to avoid getting hit after you use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:52:49 No.14897831 Report

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>>14897753
Why are you worried about taking hits? Shell Smash is an all-or-nothing strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:52:55 No.14897836 Report

Quoted By: >>14897949 >>14898100

Also, does anyone know what tier you can battle with Gen 6 mons on showdown so I can test all this?

>>14897799
Not if you use White Herb, which I'm going to try out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 09:56:55 No.14897949 Report

Quoted By: >>14898022

>>14897836

oh...k.
But where do you guys check your stats? Smogon has base stats way higher than serebii and I don't know which one to trust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 10:00:11 No.14898022 Report

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>>14897949
And it has learnsets that are different too.

Fucking Hell, I just want to know what Binacle to try for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 10:02:58 No.14898100 Report

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>>14897836
Only time I've really felt like White Herb was worth it was like Little Cup.

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