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Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:18:46 No.14903165 View View Reply Original Report

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My current moveset is

Dark Pulse
Surf
U-Turn
Icebeam

Do you guys think I should swap out Icebeam for extrasensory?

Which do you think would help me more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:21:00 No.14903237 Report

Quoted By: >>14903256

Unlearn Surf and Learn Hydro Pump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:21:05 No.14903244 Report

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phys build
and keep it as it is, extrasensory sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:21:39 No.14903256 Report

Quoted By: >>14904054

>>14903237
the lack of accuracy is kind of much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:22:50 No.14903296 Report

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Depends on what else is on your team. I kept Extrasensory since my team has a moderate fighting weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:46:35 No.14904054 Report

Quoted By: >>14904169

>>14903256
Wide Lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:50:04 No.14904169 Report

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>>14904054
but life orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:51:10 No.14904196 Report

Quoted By: >>14904358

>not teaching him Thunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:53:18 No.14904264 Report

Quoted By: >>14904406

How should I EV train my Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:56:15 No.14904358 Report

Quoted By: >>14904376 >>14904750

>>14904196
>implying it can learn thunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:56:42 No.14904376 Report

Quoted By: >>14904443 >>14904495

>>14904358
It can

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:57:38 No.14904406 Report

Quoted By:

>>14904264
speed and SpAttack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 13:58:39 No.14904443 Report

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>>14904376
But that's wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:00:16 No.14904495 Report

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>>14904376
No it can't you fucking shithead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:02:19 No.14904560 Report

Quoted By: >>14904677 >>14904828

Scald > surf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:06:47 No.14904677 Report

Quoted By: >>14904797 >>14904828

>>14904560
how high is the chance of burn?

is it really that much better then the extra damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:09:04 No.14904750 Report

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>>14904358
Why would you even want it to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:10:29 No.14904797 Report

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>>14904677
scald is 80 damage, surf is 90
30% chance to burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:11:29 No.14904828 Report

Quoted By: >>14904866 >>14904977 >>14905088

>>14904560
>>14904677

Scald should be used on tanks/walls to phaze and shut down physical threats. Surf is better on Greninja since he's so frail, he needs to dish out as much damage as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:12:48 No.14904866 Report

Quoted By: >>14904977

>>14904828

there is only a 10 BP difference though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:15:16 No.14904952 Report

Quoted By: >>14905155

Mine has Surf, Icebeam, Dark pulse

What else would be good to have? U-Turn like OP?

1779-0294-5105 (Ninetales-Growlithe-Larvesta)

1779-0294-5105 (Ninetales-Growlithe-Larvesta) Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:16:05 No.14904977 Report

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>>14904828
>>14904866

If he learns Hydro Pump I'd take it over Surf even because of his subpar spAtk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:19:23 No.14905088 Report

Quoted By: >>14905155

>>14904828
Gotta think, though, landing a burn on a fast physical sweeper is incredibly valuable. It's often worth trading the damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:20:37 No.14905125 Report

Quoted By: >>14905448

I have u turn on mine but I'm not sure how to feel about it, I send in greninja first and scope out the field, if I don't like what I see I swap out with it, but the damage it does is pathetic. Should I keep it?

+SPD -SP.DEF btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:21:52 No.14905155 Report

Quoted By: >>14905180

>>14904952
U-turn is a godsend because it allows Greninja to get the fuck out when there's something he can't OHKO.
Say the enemy throws out a mega mawile or something, he can't kill it and if it hits him, he's dead.
That is what U-turn is for.

>>14905088
I'm gonna have to go with hydro pump, 30% burn is always nice, but I feel like scald will more often than not let him down, because if the enemy survives it, even with a burn, he's gonna get wrecked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:22:36 No.14905180 Report

Quoted By: >>14905234 >>14905256 >>14905784

>>14905155
Would switching out not have an identical effect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:24:15 No.14905234 Report

Quoted By: >>14905253

>>14905180
It's switching out while dealing damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:24:57 No.14905253 Report

Quoted By: >>14905317 >>14905320 >>14905329

>>14905234
Potentially fuck all damage.
But alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:25:08 No.14905256 Report

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>>14905180
even poke damage is nice.

And even with his super bad physical attack, it still takes a good chip off of some Pokemon with weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:27:14 No.14905317 Report

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>>14905253
fuck all damage still stops scarfs, and can often make a difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:27:18 No.14905320 Report

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>>14905253
Even potentially fuck all damage can be useful as it can mean the difference between killing or getting your ass beat by a guy with 1 hp left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:27:34 No.14905329 Report

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>>14905253
Fuck all damage still breaks sash and sturdy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:28:20 No.14905340 Report

Quoted By: >>14905492

Where the hell is dark pulse tm? 3 or 4 sites I've checked say R15, but I can't find it at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:31:36 No.14905448 Report

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>>14905125
A Greninja with -Sp.Def is a shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:33:23 No.14905492 Report

Quoted By: >>14905502 >>14905567

>>14905340
Dark Pulse is kind of dickish, you go in from route 16, there's a place where you can surf and then waterfall up to where it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:33:46 No.14905502 Report

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>>14905492
Thanks heaps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:36:20 No.14905567 Report

Quoted By: >>14905592

>>14905492

This might be a stupid question but where do you find U Turn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:37:26 No.14905592 Report

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>>14905567
Couriway town.
Can't remember how though.

Helel 2578 3912 3301

Helel 2578 3912 3301 Sun 20 Oct 2013 14:43:31 No.14905784 Report

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>>14905180
It is also useful if you anticipate a switch. Running Greninja as a revenge killer against, I don't know, a nearly dead Garchomp for example, would probably lead to them switching out for a counter. Because U-Turn is a move you get to see what they switch BEFORE it connects and you can counterpick appropriately.

It's a really nice move for mindgames/prediction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 15:11:16 No.14906663 Report

Quoted By: >>14908791

Is there a way to make my starter Greninja viable without him having Protean? It's sort of a principle thing (doesn't help that he's shiny ether).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:10:05 No.14908791 Report

Quoted By: >>14908840 >>14908853

>>14906663
What does Protean actually do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:11:27 No.14908840 Report

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>>14908791
Switches the Pokemon's type to the type of the move it's about to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:11:51 No.14908853 Report

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>>14908791
gives universal STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:12:54 No.14908900 Report

Quoted By: >>14908994

Mine:

Waterfall
Dark Pulse
Icebeam
Extrasensory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:14:57 No.14908994 Report

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>>14908900
Why waterfall? I see absolutly no reason for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:15:57 No.14909036 Report

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Wide lens

Hydro Pump
Dark Pulse
U-Turn
Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:17:31 No.14909094 Report

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Mine:

Scald
Dark Pulse
Ice Beam
Extrasensory

Thinking of exchanging something for Mat Block.

Souji Seta 3196 - 3956 - 1271

Souji Seta 3196 - 3956 - 1271 Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:28:10 No.14909530 Report

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Mine right now is a Timid Life Orb set with...

~ Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Grass Knot
~ Hidden Power [Bug]

I might switch out HP Bug for U-Turn. But eh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:29:39 No.14909584 Report

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round, night slash, scald, water shuriken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:30:11 No.14909612 Report

Quoted By: >>14909666

Scald
Ice Beam
Extrasensory
Shadow Ball

Souji Seta 3196 - 3956 - 1271

Souji Seta 3196 - 3956 - 1271 Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:31:18 No.14909666 Report

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>>14909612
It can't even learn Shadow Ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 16:43:20 No.14910213 Report

Quoted By: >>14911526

Scald
Explosion
Ice Beam
Waterfall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Oct 2013 17:09:36 No.14911526 Report

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>>14910213
What the fuck.

Everyone who says waterfall must be trolling.

But fuck explosion is just retarded.

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