Alright ..
Anonymous
God I wish every pokemon had a unique egg.
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce]
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce] Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:18:26 No. 14960757 Report I'm breeding:
Anonymous
Do I want him to be saying my pokemon have "generally superior potential" or "outstanding potential" as far as perfect IVs go?
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce]
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce] Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:19:32 No. 14960792 Report Anonymous
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>>14960704 One of the few better elements of the anime.
We'll be stuck with yoshi eggs forever.
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce]
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce] Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:20:39 No. 14960811 Report Anonymous
>>14960757 Not OP but from what I understand the female has a larger chance of passing down the ability than the male. But the male does have small chance. If you can try and replace the parent with a new one that has the desired ability and your chances of getting it will go up.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14960757 Determined by the parent holding the Everstone
>>14960791 "generally superior potential" <"outstanding potential", higher overall stats. Go for the Desired IV>Overall IV
>>14960812 Female has 80% chance to pass down ability, when paired with one from the same egg group. Note that the hidden ability wont be passed down when paired with a ditto.
Anonymous
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Can a mother pass on a hidden ability?
Anonymous
>>14960811 Awesome.
Also: that fucking feel when I get a Breloom to level 52 with perfect IVs, Bullet Seed, Adamant Nature, and Technician and then it turns out you can't fucking remember spore and you need to keep an everstone on your shitty shroomish for fucking ever.
Kill me. I bred an entire new box with two parents that have 4 perfect IVs each and Adamant w/ everstone and both with Technician.
I'm getting another perfect one, and I'm not going to fuck it up this time.
Anonymous
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>>14960792 Female determines Species and ability.
I assume you are trying to go for a Gooey Goomy? If so, just keep trying. You've probably just been unlucky.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14960838 Correction, 60% chance to pass down hidden ability, 80% chance to pass down regular abilities.
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce]
Sergio 1762-3519-3090 [Minccino, Eevee, Dunsparce] Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:24:26 No. 14960888 Report Quoted By:
>>14960838 I guess I just keep falling in the 20%, thanks!
Yolo 0576-4335-3855 (Aipom, Kelceon, Eevee)
Yolo 0576-4335-3855 (Aipom, Kelceon, Eevee) Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:26:21 No. 14960932 Report >>14960870 holy fuck that feel
I only managed to bred out a HP, ATT and SPD shroomish and I think I'm done.
That hidden ability RNG kills me
Thanks for the lesson btw
Anonymous
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Do we know the chances of a male passing on a hidden ability yet?
Theo 0903-3212-5845
>>14960664 i'm trying to have a perfect IV's timid Froakie (already have a good - but not perfect - naive one) so i'm looking for something like 31/x/31/31/31/31.
Problem is i don't know how to do at some point. I have a male one with DW ability, which is 31/31/31/31/31/x (close enough...), but I can't have the one I want even if i reproduce it with a 31/31/x/x/x/31 ditto.
I tried both ways, putting the destiny knot on my close enough Froakie and the everstone on a 2 perfects IVs dittos (don't have a 3 IVs' one which is timid), or everstone on froakie and destiny knot on 3 perfect IVs' Ditto.
Another problem is the DW ability. When i reproduced perfect Honedges, there was no problem because i found very quickly a male and a female with very good IVs I could cross-breed again. This time, there is about 85% males, and i couldn't find a female with the DW ability.
So, any advice please? ;) I know I must do something wrong, or maybe I'm just not lucky enough and should make more eggs, but don't know in which combination.
thanks dude
1075-0768-1553
Is it possible to breed a Slowpoke with Regenerator if it's father is a male Regenerator Corsola?
Anonymous
Can the Speedboost Torchic be bred to have Baton PAss and its Speedboost?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961023 Destiny Knot passes down 5 IVs from any of parents which means: Its not important which one gets to hold the item. Everstone should be held by the parent which you desire to pass down its Nature.
In your case, you should put the Everstone on whichever parent that actually has the Nature you want for your baby. Then put Destiny knot on the other.
Lee 1607-2712-5715 (Lampent, Phantump and Spiritomb)
Lee 1607-2712-5715 (Lampent, Phantump and Spiritomb) Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:44:17 No. 14961264 Report So in my day care I have Ditto and Heracross. Between them they have HP, Attack, Defense Sp. Def and Speed IV's, so I know I'll be getting that perfect heracross eventually.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961044 Apparently, after some research there is a very slim chance that the male will pass down a hidden ability, but very few has actually gotten it to work. I'd rather find a Female with it.
>>14961169 Yes, It should work. Get a male Eevee or from any of its evolutions and level it until it learns Baton Pass, then put the female torchick (rare) with the eevee, and theres a chance the next egg will be the one you described.
Theo 0903-3212-5845
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>>14961177 Ok thanks, i though it gave the IVs from ONE of the parents!
Anonymous
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>>14961279 >very slim Not really. I was breeding off a male hidden ability Eevee today and it was honestly like a 50% rate.
Anonymous
>>14960932 No problem. Just make sure you fucking remember.
On the bright side I just went back and found I had TWO perfect Shroomish. One had 5/6 IVs (excluding Sp.Atk because none of his moves use that anyway) and the other was 6/6 perfect IV's.
Both male though so a little sad. But time to go power EV train with Pokerus, power items, hordes, and an Odish with sweet scent. Good thing it only takes 7 minutes tops in comparison to the hour of shit mini games and slow as fuck animations.
After that it's rotation battles with a level 96 in the front and lucky egg on the level 8. Official power leveling theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8SLkNfQItU Anonymous
This is probably the dumbest question here but how are you guys determining your IV's?
Anonymous
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>>14961351 50 IV's per horde battle is a beautiful thing.
Anonymous
Am training a 31/31/31/31/31/31 Timid Greninja.
Anonymous
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>>14961392 Talk to the guy in the poke center. That's it. Make sure you get outstanding instead of superior. You CAN calculate shit but you need help to do it from what I understand.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961264 If your Heracross is a male, then you're in bad luck. Because You will either have to catch or receive a female with hidden ability for it to work since you only get the hidden ability from non-ditto pairs (given the female has the ability). So in theory, you'll need to:
*Breed a Male Heracross
*Then get a Female with the ability
*Then put everstone on Male and Destiny knot on female (not sure if the female has the nature you want) and destiny knot on female)
*Then you'll have to replace your special female with another HA female with higher IVs to ensure higher success rate in breeding high stat Heracross
*Keep replacing until both heracrosses has same perfect IVs or you have gotten your perfect heracross or
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14961397 Nope, you're doing fine.
Lee 1607-2712-5715 (Lampent, Phantump and Spiritomb)
Lee 1607-2712-5715 (Lampent, Phantump and Spiritomb) Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:55:36 No. 14961500 Report Quoted By:
>>14961443 Luckily, the hidden ability for Heracross is moxie. Guts is just a secondary. However, I have bred about 12 eggs so far and not a single fucking one has Guts. All Swarm.
Sorry for not being very clear with my first post.
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:57:15 No. 14961528 Report >>14961279 It's not a "very slim chance", if you breed a male Pokemon with a Ditto there's a 60% chance that the baby will have the hidden ability too.
I think when people say "slim chance" they mean male and female of a same species, and after breeding a good 120 Bulbasaurs, I'm fairly sure that the slim chance in that case is 0%. The mother having the hidden ability in that couple has a 60% chance of passing it down, but I never once got a Chlorophyll Bulbasaur off a couple where the female didn't have it.
Anonymous
>>14961443 You can breed males with hiddens with a ditto and get a female with the hidden.
Anonymous
So I got a Togepi with 31 in HP, Sp. Attack and Sp Defense.
Anonymous
Did one of you try Destiny knot and Power item ?
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:01:00 No. 14961600 Report >>14961561 You either get a Ditto or a Togepi of the opposite gender that has 31 in Speed as well as 31 in at least 2 of these 3 stats. Then you get the eggs and check them at the IV checker until it has those 3 IVs and Speed.
It may take a while, you need to be patient.
Who you give the Destiny Knot doesn't matter, but give the Everstone to the parent who has the correct nature of course.
Anonymous
Anyone know the best place to run around to hatch these suckers?? sorry for being a total noob to this. first time breeding
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961532 >>14961528 So .. The conclusion is breeding with a ditto theres a 50% chance of a hidden ability being passed down, and <1% when breeding with two of the same species?
I don't see this being very logical at all. Unless you've tested the breeding yourself I'd like to see any scource on this.
Anonymous
>>14961600 So basically a good strategy would be to catch a shitload of safari dittos with different IV combinations, yeh?
Anonymous
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>>14961620 This is how I got my female bulletproof Chespin. Bred a male with a ditto till a female popped out. It didn't take long.
Not going to take a picture of it just to prove it. Ask around, people will tell you the same.
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:03:11 No. 14961647 Report >>14961589 I think Destiny Knot possibly disregards Power Items, or rather it has a chance to pass down the IV that the Power item is passing down as well, which makes the Power Items pointless.
Anonymous
>>14960664 Is there any way to get egg moves onto a tyrogue
I need this for important reasons
Anonymous
>>14961602 Lumiose City.
Fly to the center and ride the bike around Prism Tower.
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:04:59 No. 14961680 Report Quoted By:
>>14961623 Yup. Go catch a box's worth of Dittos until you have a few with 3 31s, hopefully in different combinations and covering all stats. So for example, one with HP/ATK/DEF, one with ATK/DEF/SPE and one with DEF/SPA/SPD.
Then you can pass down all of these stats to any other Pokemon in stages with the Destiny Knot.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14961647 i am experiencing the reverse.
with Knot on my 3 perfect IV mon i should always get at least 3 perfects. But i keep getting 2 and 1.
I will switch to everst
one for now and see what happens.
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:08:10 No. 14961745 Report >>14961620 Well, the only source I could site is Serebii, which says that males now have a chance to pass down hidden abilities as well, as previously it was only females.
However, extensive testing has shown that that's only when breeding with a Ditto. In hundreds of eggs total, I can tell you that not a single one had the hidden ability if the mother didn't have it.
So:
Male with HA + Ditto = 60% egg with HA.
Male with HA + female with HA = 60% egg with HA.
Male without HA + female with HA = 60% egg with HA.
Male with HA + female without HA = 0% egg with HA.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14961700 Keep in mind that the Knot wont pass down 5 IVs from the parent holding it. It calculates for BOTH parents. so theres a 1/2 chance for each of the parents HP to be passed down, Atk, Def and so on.
Anonymous
Let's say I hatch a pokemon that has an egg move, I then want to breed it with a ditto with the desired IVs.
Anonymous
Would breeding with a ditto that has Imposter effect the chance of getting a hidden ability at all?
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:11:12 No. 14961812 Report >>14961780 Male parents pass down egg moves 100% of the time, female parents have an unknown % chance to pass down egg moves as well. I'm estimating that the chance is about ~10%.
So you're probably better off by getting the egg moves on a male parent if possible.
Anonymous
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>>14961812 Alright thanks.
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:12:39 No. 14961844 Report Quoted By:
>>14961802 No, none whatsoever.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961745 Since:
Male with HA + Ditto = 60% egg with HA.
Male with HA + female with HA = 60% egg with HA.
Male without HA + female with HA = 60% egg with HA.
Male with HA + female without HA = 0% egg with HA
Would:
Female with HA + Ditto = ??% with HA
pass down the hidden ability at 60%?
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo
Pride 4124-5086-0799, Breloom, Sawk, Mienfoo Mon 21 Oct 2013 12:16:17 No. 14961920 Report Quoted By:
>>14961889 Yup. Sorry, forgot that one scenario.
Anonymous
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>>14960664 why are you mentioning lectures in the op? do you want to us to ask about your life?
Anonymous
When I catch a ditto from safari, when I talk to the IV guy, every stat he points out is gauranteed to be 31? Or does he have to say something about it specifically?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14961780 When breeding, your offspring will be of the same Pokemon as your Mother thus requiring you to catch a father with the move you want to be passed down.
Anonymous
Theo 0903-3212-5845
>>14961889 So, i've got another question for you kind sir ;)
Back with my froakies. I got a protean male one with 5 perfects IVs, and a torrent female one with 4 perfects IVs. I breeded them, and i only got Torrent Froakies... There's no way I could have Protean by breeding them?
Anonymous
>>14961937 He names 2-3 (sometimes 4) stats followed by "Can't be beat!"
On occasion he'll mention another stat in which is just very low. Like "How could you win with a defense like that?"
Anonymous
>>14961980 So basically any stat he mentions in particular is either 31 or 0?
Anonymous
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>>14961999 idk if it's 0 when he talks shit about a stat, but when he mentions it Cant Be Beat, yeah it's 31.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961958 Yes, but only from Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan/Hitmontop. Tyrogue is a Male only pokemon so it cant get any moves from any other than themselves. It has to breed with a ditto that is.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14961962 According to the new game mechanics, breed it with a ditto and you should have plenty of Protean Forakies.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14961958 Also, you will need to evolve it first. Tyrogue wont breed since its a baby pokemon.
Theo 0903-3212-5845
>>14962055 Yeah, but Ditto has 3 perfects IVs, and the female froakie with torrent has 4 :(
BTW I start to think there's no way a female can have protean... Every female I hatched has torrent...
Ryan 0817-4393-0423
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>>14962112 My Greninja is a female with Protean.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14962112 If your froakie has Perfect stats in:
HP
Def
Sp.A
Speed
And your ditto:
HP
Sp.D
Speed
You might even end up with a forakie with:
HP
Def
Sp.A
*Sp.D
Speed
The Mechanic of Destiny Knot, makes it possible to pass down 5 stats from any of the parents. So If you're lucky enough The destiny knot might even take with it all froakiedads stats + the Sp.D from ditto!
Only reason why you don't see any fem with Protean is because your female dont have Protean. If you pair your ProteanMale with the ditto you might end up with a female with protean, but that chance is greatly reduced, because only 12.5% froakies bread are females.
Anonymous
How do you check the IVs?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14962268 Kiloude City Poke Center (Post-Game)
Anonymous
What would be a good reference website to learn the basics of IV training and breeding?
Theo 0903-3212-5845
Anonymous
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>>14962304 Ah, fuck. I guess I should just stick to playing through the game instead of breeding and such.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14962329 Information may be outdated, thats why I'm researching :)
Anonymous
I'm currently breeding Sneasels, with two egg moves. When I changed the parents they had leveled up and removed their own egg moves, yet all their offspring still seems to have gotten the egg moves. Did I just get lucky and got lots of eggs just before both their egg moves were replaced or can they still give eggs with egg moves if they've known the move before?
Anonymous
>>14962268 >Save the game >Put the Pokemon in the daycare >Use an IV calc online >Every 2-3 levels enter the Pokemon's stats until you narrow them down to 1-2 possibilities That's how I got my 31/31/31/3/31/1 Honedge pre-second badge, anyway.
Anonymous
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>>14962019 god dammit
i really wanted to breed the ultimate hitmonchan
iron fist seems really neat, and i wanted to abuse it
Anonymous
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>>14962400 This is exactly what i need to start off
Thank ya kindly
Anonymous
>>14960664 Just stopping by to say that I just became champion and am now looking to get into the world of breeding and such. I think I saw your topic a few days ago talking about breeding perfect Pokemon, but I forgot to copy it all down. Looking forward to this guide. Any idea when it'll be completed? I guess I'll just pass the time until then by picking up Pokemon I like in Friend Safaris.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14962477 Currently working on the structure of the guide. I might even be done this evening EU time :)
You can save yourself some time by catching perfect IV dittos
Anonymous
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>>14960664 Make sure you put in the '31' Characteristics
HP: Takes Plenty of Siestas (changed from Often Dozes Off)
Attack: Likes to Thrash About
Defense: Capable of Taking Hits
Special Attack: Mischievous
Special Defense: Somewhat Vain
Speed: Alert to Sounds
Any other characteristic is releasable without having to check IVs.
Anonymous
>>14962534 Great. And if I remember correctly, I can tell if its IVs are perfect by bringing it to the Judge, yes? He'll say something like, "It's X can't be beat! And it's Y, Z, et cetera are good too!" right?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14962661 The Judge will only comment on stats if they're 0 or 31. Else he will just tell you the total sum of the stats very vaguely and the strongest stat.
Anonymous
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shit is so easy now that Destiny Knot has some use and mother's and father's can pass down nature/ability/moves
Anonymous
I haven't been around since DP. What's the basic gist of getting 31s all around? Just keep grinding and combining pokes with destiny knot until you get it all?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14962995 Friend Safari offers pokemon with minimum 2 perfect IV stats. Keep farming until you have oll of them then feed each offspring with their parents ivs until you have one bloated IVstronk pokemon.
Anonymous
So I've done pretty basic breeding before, passing natures and moves and such for trade bait or whatever, but I'm sort of interested in getting into IV's for special cases in XY.
Anonymous
>>14963063 how do i get a friend with dittos for me to catch though
Anonymous
>>14963303 Add a friend with a Normal type Safari and hope that it contains Dittos.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14963177 Yeah, I would recommend using a female scyther as it has a higher chance of passing down Technician.
If you're not going with the full IV spread I recommend having a friend or someone trade over a foreign ditto with the same IVs as its much easier to hatch a shiny pokemon this gen.
>>14963063 Could ask nicely if anyone has a ditto on /vp/. They're rare thouhg and most of them have loads of requests already. I personally don't even have one with a ditto on my list :/
Anonymous
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>>14963346 shit nigger i dont even know how to add friends
Anonymous
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thanks for the tochic info, im breeding it with ditto and out of 10 eggs 7 had speed boost.
Anonymous
>>14960880 60+80=140%
what the hell, anon?
Anonymous
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>>14963618 Exactly, so 60% of that is hidden ability and 80% of the time is regular ability.
Anonymous
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>>14963618 I won't outright insult you because that isn't my style.
If it has a hidden ability the chance of passing it down is 60%.
If it has a normal ability the chance of passing it down is 80%.
Anonymous
>>14962406 Anyone know this?
Anonymous
>>14962734 Thats rightout wrong. He will always comment on the highest stat.
Anonymous
>>14963729 Egg moves are set when the parents are placed in
So if I put in a level 20 Thunder Fang Arbok with a Tyrunt, all the babies will have Thunder Fang up until I take Arbok out of the day care, even after it learns 5-6 different moves and replaces Thunder Fang
Anonymous
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>>14963366 >Yeah, I would recommend using a female scyther as it has a higher chance of passing down Technician. Thanks OP, definitely keeping that in mind.
And yeah, Masuda method is a whole other level of crazy I might just save for later. Maybe for Gastly, eventually.
Anonymous
>>14960838 >Note that the hidden ability wont be passed down when paired with a ditto. This is wrong. Ditto can now pass down hidden abilities. Have a box of Magician Fennekin and Protean Froakie with only ditto and respective poke in the day care.
Anonymous
Tim 2766 8381 4091 (Octillery, Gyarados, Poliwhirl))
Tim 2766 8381 4091 (Octillery, Gyarados, Poliwhirl)) Mon 21 Oct 2013 13:44:30 No. 14963848 Report Quoted By:
>>14963802 No, what that meant is that Imposter Ditto plus (for example) a Swinub with Oblivious or Snow Cloak will never result in a Swinub baby with Thick Fat. Thick Fat Swinub with Ditto (regardless of gender) will, though.
Taerune - 2535 4525 9123
Read through the thread and didn't see it posted;
someone already has a pretty decent (albeit short) guide on IV breeding perfect mons for this gen.
it's their 7th post
http://froakiedokie.tumblr.com/ Tabris 2852-7545-5792
Can males pass natures in this gen with the everstone?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14963744 Strongest stat == Highest stat
>>14963729 Egg moves can be relearned by using move reminder, even if they're overwritten.
>>14963802 Already commented on that further down.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14963884 All pokemon can pass down with an everstone in this gen.
>>14963875 If so I'll make a better one (Move images and visually attractive)
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
Alright, I'll pause for now and start on my guide. Thanks for the accurate information posted here. I'll include it.
Anonymous
Does Destiny Knot really take 3 stats from one parent and 2 from the other, or is it completely random?
Anonymous
>>14964141 Don't forget that wild baby pokermen (such as Riolu on route 22) will always have 3 perfect IVs.
Anonymous
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>>14964188 Completely random.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
Anonymous
This might be a repost, but it seems like my first attempt to post this vanished.
Anonymous
>>14962410 How long does this take, getting a perfect pokemon?
Where do you start?
Anonymous
Ok, there's a core thing I'm missing with all this new IV breeding. I get that Destiny Knot carries over 5 IVs. That's fine. But where the fuck do I get a Pokemon with 5 perfect IVs in the first place to carry down?
Anonymous
HOW DO I PASS DOWN POKEBALLS
Red Ryu (りゅう) 0963-0284-1161
>>14965211 for starters use dittos from the safari, then cycle in offsprings
Anonymous
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>>14960664 Why do all pokemon eggs look the same, OP? Why don't they look like what they'll hatch into, like your pic?
Anonymous
>>14965002 >>14965211 From experience, getting 4 perfect IVs + right nature/ability takes a little less than 30 minutes. Five perfect IVs takes up to an hour, and I don't know why you'd need 6 perfect IVs.
Start with the parents having a perfect IV on different stats, breed until an offspring has at least the IVs of one parent plus one more from the other parent, then replace said parent with said offspring. Rinse, repeat. Safari caught Pokemon/Dittos make this easier.
Anonymous
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>>14965301 I'm trying to understand the mechanics behind it. Like, I understand Friend Safari Pokemon have 31 IV stats, but how many? And are you saying you want to breed Dittos together to combine their IVs to get one Ditto that has 5 IVs?
Anonymous
>>14965380 Alright, that makes sense to me. How many Perfect IVs do Safari Pokemon have?
Anonymous
Anonymous
So is there something about abilities and breeding I missed on?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14964957 EVs are stats which will determine the strength of your pokemon. These should be maxed out before you even consider using them in battle. But be cautious, EV stats are distributed whenever exp.share is on.
Look at the picture posted somewhere above.
>>14965211 You're not given any pokemon with 5 IVs, these are VERY hard to find. Fortunately for you, in gen VI, you can obtain pokemon with 2< maxed IVs in Friend Safari. Use the destiny knot to weave inn the Maxed out IVs on the offspring. Thats what the item is for.
>>14965002 Depends whether you're lucky or not, but It'll take you at least 1 hoursdepending on how efficient you've been.
>>14965284 http://www.serebii.net/xy/breeding.shtml Female's pokeball should be the inherited one.
Anonymous
>>14965479 Straight up bad luck. There's no way to guarantee an ability. Worse case scenario, you get/use an Ability Capsule.
Kala 3411-0670-7376 (gyarados, poliwhirl, krabby)
Kala 3411-0670-7376 (gyarados, poliwhirl, krabby) Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:00:08 No. 14965645 Report I have a couple of dumb questions because I'm knew to breeding.
Anonymous
Thom [Tyrogue/Pancham/Mienfoo] 2638-0636-2133
Thom [Tyrogue/Pancham/Mienfoo] 2638-0636-2133 Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:02:58 No. 14965719 Report Ok, so if I wanted to MM a Noivern with perfect IVs (been doing it and have regular ones with Sp.ATK and Speed), would I need to trade for more foreign females/males for breeding?
Cj 0232-7665-1900
>>14965645 with the friend safari, you are guaranteed at least 2 max IVs from pokemon caught there from what I've read and I added you, can I has poliwhirl?
Anonymous
>>14965625 >>14965699 Bull.
the parent's ability has a huge amount of impact on the ability received.
I bred about 50 ralts with a synchronize parent trying to get traces, only got like 5. Switched to trace ralts and damn near all of them had trace.
Anonymous
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>>14964560 Just go catch like a dozen. That's proof enough.
Zachary 1821-9410-5479
So if one Beldum has "Outstanding" with 31 Attack and Speed and another is "Superior" with 31 Attack, HP, and Defense, I should use the latter as breeding stock?
Anonymous
>>14965719 You'd want a better foreign one to bring up the average. You can stick with the one you have but the average will be so low that it will take a while before you have what you want.
>>14965744 Still not guaranteed. Still chance.
Kala 3411-0670-7376 (gyarados, poliwhirl, krabby)
Kala 3411-0670-7376 (gyarados, poliwhirl, krabby) Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:06:18 No. 14965818 Report >>14965741 EH, you didn't answer my question, but you may still has a poliwhirl.
Anonymous
Nimble X:0731-6116-6480 [Poison; Seviper, Garbador, Whirlipede] !bdB08On366
Nimble X:0731-6116-6480 [Poison; Seviper, Garbador, Whirlipede] !bdB08On366 Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:07:14 No. 14965849 Report >>14965645 the guy who tell you your pokemons IVs does name off all the stats that you have as 31, and subsequently those that you have 0 in as well.
"A stat in particular I noticed was it's HP."
"And it's Defense..."
"And it's Speed..."
"In that regard...It can't be beat!"
"But that Attack stat...it's terrible..."
Anonymous
>>14965802 Use the superior with 3 IVs, and breed it with the ditto. What Id do in your case is destiny knot the beldum and then use the ditto. That's how I got my 5 perfect IV Litwick after 5-6 eggs.
Cj 0232-7665-1900
>>14965818 oh whoops, yeah he tells you which ones are the highest stat and which ones have low stats
Zachary 1821-9410-5479
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>>14965855 I have an everstone on the Beldum to guarnate Adamant nature.
Anonymous
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>>14965802 >>14965855 Precisely, and replace that Beldum as soon as you get a Beldum with the three from it plus one more from the Ditto.
Kala 3411-0670-7376 (gyarados, poliwhirl, krabby)
Kala 3411-0670-7376 (gyarados, poliwhirl, krabby) Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:12:27 No. 14965998 Report Quoted By:
Thom [Tyrogue/Pancham/Mienfoo] 2638-0636-2133
Thom [Tyrogue/Pancham/Mienfoo] 2638-0636-2133 Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:12:31 No. 14966000 Report >>14965811 It had a Timid nature, luckily. So basically now I should just keep trading online and hope I get males/females that have perfect IVs, correct?
Anonymous
>>14960664 honedge and ditto stopped laying eggs. No matter how much I walk, the guy simply tells me that "they don't seem to like each other very much". 30 minutes whitout a egg. Any explanation?
Anonymous
>>14966010 Extremely bad luck.
same trainer different species is always hell to breed, only 20% chance per cycle.
Anonymous
Is there any way to get a hidden ability when neither of the parents have it?
Anonymous
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>>14966119 I guess I'll have to keep trying, then... thank you
Anonymous
>>14966000 Yes, with at least perfect IVs in the stats you're missing.
Anonymous
Thom [Tyrogue/Pancham/Mienfoo] 2638-0636-2133
Thom [Tyrogue/Pancham/Mienfoo] 2638-0636-2133 Mon 21 Oct 2013 15:23:31 No. 14966318 Report Quoted By:
>>14966201 Excellent. Thanks for the help m80.
Anonymous
>>14966258 Shit, well, does anybody want to trade me a Protean Froakie? I have Dittos, not sure about their IVs.
Anonymous
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Just curious, but if someone were to breed pokemon with perfect IVs, would they be willing to give them to a fellow /vp/er? I don't have much to offer in return, but pretty soon I should have some Lv. 1 Eevees with Baton Pass, Wish & Curse. I also can trade any starter or fossil Pokemon.
Zachary 1821-9410-5479
>>14966328 I'll give you one
Anonymous
>>14966395 What would you like in return?
Eg !GPlanttyCw
>>14966424 Your friend code.
Just give me a derp or whatever m8
Anonymous
>>14966461 0447-6227-3692
Thanks dude, do you have other HA starters?
Zachary 1821-9410-5479
>>14966492 No sir, sorry. Just have Froakies.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14960664 Serious Question:
Is there any way to keep the breeders from deleting a certain move?
I'm currently trying to breed a Skrelp with HP, Def, Atk, sp def, and sp atk WITH toxic Spikes
THe problem is, they erase Toxic spikes more than half of the time.
I tried to test if making Toxic SPike the first skill would keep them from deleting it, but it doesn't.
For the moment, I'm just using the move deleter, it's just annoying when I get a new generation with more passable IVs, I have to visit the move deleter at least 2 times, Skrelp learns lots of moves from level 1 to level 15.
One more question, aside from Pure Luck, it's impossible to have 6 31 IVs, yes? Destiny Knot only passes down 5, and if you use a power item for the sixth stat, you'd be grinding for the nature... right?
Anonymous
>>14966656 Destiny Knot passes down 5IVs out of 12IVs. (6IV from each)
Anonymous
>>14966707 so chances of having 5IVs from only one of the parents is kinda slim
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14966785 1/2 chance for each stat. its not too difficult.
>>14966656 The moves deleted are according to the latest move learned. Still, you can get it back using move reminder woman, in exchange for a heart scale.
Anonymous
>>14966707 That's.. exactly what I'm trying to say.
Unless you somehow get extremely lucky, 31 IVs in all six stats is near impossible, right?
4 is easily manipulated, and 5 perfect IVs is a bit more work, correct?
Leon - 3969-4803-6478 (Gloom - Garbodor)
Right now I'm breeding my perfect team, starting by Froakie.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14966656 Power Items override Destiny knot, so no it wont work. The chance of having a perfect 6IV pokemon is as slim as getting perfect in one particular stat when catching a random pokemon.
Anonymous
>>14966862 What would you say is more time efficient?
Grinding heart scales or just deleting moves so that Toxic spikes is the only move it has?
Anonymous
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>>14966875 yeah that'll take more effort than it is worth, imo.
tbh as long as the IV stats that actually matter are maxxed and is identified as having "Outstanding" potential then it's competitively viable.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14966920 I'm struggling to keep track of what you're trying to do. Breeding has nothing to do with leveling and overwriting moves. Putting the pokemon into day care may overwrite your move,but its easily accessible again after visiting move relearner.
Anonymous
>>14966881 It's impossible to get 6 perfect IVs.
The highest you can go is 5. Greninja doesn't really need attack, as he should be a special attacker. You can drop the 31 IVs on his attack.
But yes, you pretty much sift through each generation until the offspring is better than the parent, and then you use that new offspring for breeding until the offspring produces a newer offspring with better stats, so on and so forth.
Anonymous
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>>14966920 Exchange Pokemiles for Heart Scales.
Or just level your best Skrelp to a point it won't learn new moves. Sounds like a pain but at least you won't have to worry about losing Toxic Spikes.
Anonymous
>>14966990 Okay, I want to have Skrelp with Toxic spikes, yes?
Every time I get a new offspring with better IVs than the original parents, I will replace the original parents with the new offspring.
However, new offsprings come at level 1, and obviously they will level up via daycare from grinding for eggs. When they reach a certain level, Toxic spikes is Deleted BY the day care people, and then the new offspring don't get toxic spikes, so the chain is effectively broken.
To remedy this, I've started deleting every move except for toxic spikes on the new offspring, so that it ensures toxic spikes is passed down. Skrelp learns a LOT of moves from level 1 to about level 23.
Anonymous
I want to super train Yveltal, and I was thinking of pumping everything into Speed and Sp. Atk because he has the Naughty nature, but I'm not sure.
Anonymous
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>>14967112 Just level it up to 15 and drag and drop the move into the 4th slot.
Anonymous
>>14967154 Are you just getting into competitive battling? It's more so about whether or not you're interested in competitive battling rather than being interested in EV training.
Anonymous
>>14967218 I am, but from the few link battles I've done Legendaries have all been banned, so I figured it was just for fun getting him to 100.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
>>14967112 Dont worry about that. Moves are set by the moment you register it into daycare. If otherwise is proven, I'll let you have one of my max 5 IV Arons ;)
Anonymous
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>>14967260 If you're new to competitive battling in general, I would suggest you start by learning tiers and which tier you would find yourself most comfortable in.
Because with Yvetal, he is more than likely going to be put into a tier known as "ubers" which basically means he will be permanently banned unless you play in the uber tier.
Because of this, it would be a waste of time to train him at all, since you can't even use him.
Lazlo 4656-7052-7828
Question: how do you people do this and still enjoy pokemon?
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14967260 Post-Game, quickest way to do it is to get a power lens (Sp.A) and Power Ancklet (Speed) and infec your pokemon with pokerus. Go to route 8 (with a gloom on route 6) and use sweet scent. Kill all winguls with surf or any AOE skills. it gives you 50 EV stats per encounter. and you cna also power train up to 5 other pokemon. this takes roughly 15 minutes to max out.
Anonymous
>>14967314 I would go and take the time to show you that it gets deleted, which means the offspring don't get it as well, but that would require upwards of 10 pictures.
It's not a huge pain, but it's still annoying to either have to level them to 15 or just delete moves as they come.
I had a huge chain going where my Skrelp had HP, Def, Sp def, and sp atk, and I was excited and checked the moves, and Toxic Spikes wasn't there. I was horrified and checked with the breeders, and they had deleted toxic spikes from both the father and the mother.
I got super sad and now I've restarted the chain since yesterday.
Anonymous
>>14967374 I don't know about others but for me,
it's all about going against the wussy shit like "all pokemons are my friends."
I like to wipe that ideal clean off from those who genuinely believe that, and make them realize that in the end, power is everything.
Anonymous
I really need help with this:
Anonymous
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>>14967374 Because, I like to know that I've created the absolute best Pokemon that is humanely possible.
When your Gengar has the same speed evs and nature, and still loses out to my Gengar with additional 31 speed IVs, I'll spit and laugh in your face.
Why didn't you care enough for your Gengar to be the absolute best? Do you hate your Pokemon or something? You don't deserve to win if you're not gonna put all your heart into making the best Pokemon.
Lazlo 4656-7052-7828
>>14967498 I don't know anyone autistic enough to think all animals ever are their friends, but I just don't see the point in putting in so much work for such a minimal advantage. I mean nature and EVs, sure, but this ruthless math and repetition makes my head spin.
Anonymous
>>14967611 yeah if you hate math this ain't gonna be your forte
Anonymous
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>>14967611 >Minimal Advantage >A game where an advantage of 1 can decide if you go first or your opponent does Anonymous
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>>14967585 Mechanics were changed. Female can pass down moves now as well as males passing down abilities.
Lazlo 4656-7052-7828
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>>14967646 I don't hate math I just don't really include it in the concept of fun. They tried to trick me into thinking otherwise when I was a kid but I ain't fallin for your shit twice, Barney.
Anonymous
>>14967611 >Minimal advantage >Your Gengar has 30 speed IVS >Mine has 31 Mine will always go first because of a single point difference. Is that minimal to you?
Anonymous
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>>14966996 but that's
disgusting Lazlo 4656-7052-7828
I'm trying to think of a way to word this that isn't some kind of /vp/ heresy, I guess I just don't care if a stranger on the internet's imaginary animals can beat my imaginary animals.
Anonymous
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>>14967724 This.
http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw_complete_damage_formula#overview inb4 smogon shit
In order to completely comprehend the system and predict how GF will react to the current meta you must more or less have the same qualifications as the folks at GF do.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14967473 Have you taken the new offspring to the move Relearner and checked if its possible for him to get it?
Lazlo 4656-7052-7828
Anonymous
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>>14967374 It's the only way for me to practice my belief of superior eugenics without social/political repercussions.
I can pretend I'm just playing a kid's game
Anonymous
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>>14967918 Then you just don't like the competitive scene where to be considered a top competitor you need every little edge and advantage. That's fine, as there's no correct way to play Pokemon, but what do you expect in an IV / Breed thread?
Anonymous
>>14967812 >>14967918 Then what does it matter to you?
Why are you here?
Anonymous
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>>14968040 He's just having a hard time swallowing the fact that his childhood game isn't as simple-minded and innocent like he thought it was.
I went thru that phase too.
Anonymous
So to get a perfect Pokemon, I need to breed for perfect IVs and nature, super train to completion, and defeat only specific Pokemon 252 times to boost EVs for one stat at a time? Or is Super training EV training?
Anonymous
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>>14968845 Super training is EV training.
Kid 2294-4330-6219
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>>14968845 Super Training mini game IS EV training.
I still like the old method though, and it's fucking fast with the hordes.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14968845 Regular EV training is now easier than super training if you know where to do it
>Give Pokemon a Power Bracer >Get it infected with Pokerus >Defeat a horde of Weepinbell >Your Pokemon just gained 50 Attack EVs You can max a Pokemon in like 15-20 minutes easily
Anonymous
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>>14969163 Well, in the previous gens, if you had all the right conditions, you could max an EV in 15 battles. That's literally cut down to like 5 battles now.
Heck yeah Anonymous
So, i have a question, to get head smash on Aggron i need to get it from Craniados.
Charlie: 3411-1576-5808
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>>14970290 Well, unless any of the Aron evolutions has Head Smash you'll need to breed it with a Craniados.
When I got mine, it already had Head Smash
Cel: 4313-0545-3222 (Poison)
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>>14967585 Smeargle, is the way to go.
Have him use a physical wall against things with those attacks. That's what I did last gen.
Tenant 2337-2963-9290
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>>14967498 >edgy You can breed for the perfect mon for yourself and still be bros with them.
