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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:04:50 No.14976415 View View Reply Original Report

>there are people who honestly believe Ice Beam is better than Dragon Pulse on Clawitzer

>inb4 muh smogon says Ice Beam is better

There is nothing that is 4x weak to ice that doesn't also die to 2x fake STAB Dragon Pulse except Gliscor, Tropius, and Skymin, who are all molested by Water Pulse/Sludge Bomb anyway. And Dragon of course gives ridiculous neutral coverage. If Mega Launcher affected Ice Beam it would be better, but it doesn't, so it's not.

>Water Pulse
>Aura Sphere
>Sludge Bomb
>Dragon Pulse

Walled to death by Aegislash, but it isn't worth dropping any of them for Dark Pulse just to fight it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:13:36 No.14976795 Report

Quoted By: >>14976938

I honestly like Dark Pulse more on my Clawitzer instead of what could possibly be Sludge Bomb. But probably because my current team set-up is more sleep based and if another status gets on them it can possibly screws a lot up. Mine has:

Water Pulse
Dark Pulse
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse

But really, I feel Im taking its ability too much into account for its moves, but they're really the only 'good moves' it has. Could Sludge Bomb be more effective? I feel theres more ghost types everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:15:43 No.14976887 Report

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How would togekiss stack up given the weakness to sludge bomb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:16:54 No.14976938 Report

Quoted By: >>14977200

>>14976795

Sludge Bomb is for killing fairies, especially Azumarill, and covers grass types. I would love to fit Dark Pulse on it, but it just doesn't seem worth giving that up. Besides, it's all it has going for it over Mega Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:23:07 No.14977200 Report

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>>14976938

Oh right, forgot about Fairy Type, not use to them existing yet. I was honestly thinking about switching Clawitzer for Volcarona in terms of Sp.A Sweeps. Since Volcarona has Bug Buzz and stuff. More tankyness definitly than Clawitzer. But now that I look back, Azumarill might be a threat. But then I 'can' give it Giga-Drain... Eh I guess its still opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:24:31 No.14977254 Report

Quoted By: >>14977334

>>14976415
Best set is Water Pulse, Ice Beam, Dark Pulse, Aura Sphere. Deal with it. Azulmarill isn't common enough yet to merit Sludge Bomb over Ice Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:26:27 No.14977334 Report

Quoted By: >>14977575

>>14977254

What does Ice Beam kill that Dragon Pulse and his other moves won't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:31:35 No.14977575 Report

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>>14977334
It's about move slot consolidation. Ice Beam covers dragons and grass. To do that you would need Dragon Pulse and Sludge Bomb. Assuming it's not one of the 50 Grass/Poisons out there. In which case you are now hitting your opponent nuetrally while they are hitting you super effectively with a STAB.

Running water pulse + ice beam frees you up so you aren't so constricted in your last two slots.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2013 20:44:32 No.14978103 Report

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>>14976415
Because Dragon moves are totally good for their coverage and not the power behind them

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