Anonymous
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They didn't release a bunch of shiny Giratina 3 days ago just for them to be perpetually stuck in B/W.
Anonymous
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>Make a big deal about being able to keep your old friends throughout the series >implying they're going to get rid of the transfer because you're mad at hackers
Django 3995-6815-5779 (DARK_ Sneasel, Mightyena, ???)
Django 3995-6815-5779 (DARK_ Sneasel, Mightyena, ???) Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:12:10 No. 15008150 Report Quoted By:
>>15007948 >Never being able to get any of my other shiny bros, legendaries or perfect IV/EV bros from old games Yeah nah. Go fuck yourself Brent.
Anonymous
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In all honesty, I think a fresh start would be nice.
Anonymous
Would be better but they can't do it
Anonymous
No. I want my pokemon I'm transfering since gen 3. They simply have to find a good method to identify hacked pokemon and let only normal pokemon to be transfered.
Anonymous
Just don't let any bullshit hacked pokemons go trough and we're set
Anonymous
>>15008705 Easier said than done, you can hack a "legitimate" Pokemon. So what's the problem with that? You can hack a legitimate "shiny" in, transfer it over and therefore decrease the value of shiny Pokemon. That's bad for Pokemon because lots of people spend ages trying to find a shiny after they finish the game as opposed to never picking it up again.
Anonymous
>>15008748 What about hacked Pokemon that imitate normal Pokemon? Those are the real problem.
Anonymous
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>>15008806 At least gen 6 ones retain value
Anonymous
>>15008808 I'm talking hacked pokemon in general
If game freak can't come up with something that blocks them, considering they're gonna have total control over the new box thing and have potential updates to patch problems, they should be able to block them
Anonymous
>mfw my friends send over all there legendaries and EV trained pokemon and shinies If gen 6 just cut the ties to older games like ruby and sapphire did I would be completely happy So far this game is devoid of cheating and everything. Its just a fresh start for everybody
Anonymous
So THATS where that TF2 gif is based on
Anonymous
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>tfw December will be the cancer that kills Pokemon. Rest in piece.
Anonymous
>>15008895 >>15008808 >>15008806 They're the company that has been doing the games for ages and has accepted hacking as a big problem
they say on the page they will block any hacked pokemon and frankly, if they can't do that with a system that hasn't been cracked they'd have to be really fucking retarded
Anonymous
>>15007948 I hope you die in a fire, I want my Counter Gengar and nothing is gonna stop me from using it online.
Anonymous
>>15008643 They have done it.
All they have to do now is cancel poke bank
Anonymous
>>15008806 A legitimate pokemon made with hacks can still be somewhat good, better than having an hacked pokemon with uber-retarded stats.
With shiny pokemon it can be a problem, yes. But isn't now easier to find shiny in this gen?
Besides, don't forget that the bank will be behind a paywall. The first free month can be used to transfer whatever you want but after the trial period you have to pay.
And I doubt people that make hacked pokemon are so eager to pay.
Anonymous
>>15009058 >5 dollars Oh wow, it's fucking nothing
Anonymous
In my opinion, there's a way to prevent hacked pokemon. It's a bit unfair to all honest trainers but in my opinion it's the only way: What if when you transfer an older pokemon, all it's EVs get reset and the IVs get slightly modified (just one value)? This way you have you beloved pokemon but you have to train him propely. And hackers get fucked.
Anonymous
>>15009303 >hackers get fucked. How?
>make 31 IVs perfect mon >transfer it >now have 31 - 31 - 27 - 31 - 31 mon >EV training takes 5 minutes Anonymous
>>15009243 5 dollars for every year to be more fair.
My reasoning is that if someone is so a sad person that he have to hack a pokemon to feel superior, then I doubt he will pay 5 dollars every year for the 5 years to come just to transfer a shiny Snorlax.
Anonymous
>>15009365 Oh my sides, it's not even 5 dollars a month? It's 5 dollars a year? What are you, a third worlder?
Anonymous
>>15009334 Well, now its IVs aren't perfect anymore. And while EV training is easier, he actually have to work on it, instead of just using a PC to make an hacked pokemon.
Anonymous
>>15009398 >people that actually spent hours training lost their progress too Amazing
Anonymous
>>15009378 I don't have problems paying 5 dollars a year.
But I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about hackers, got it?
Anonymous
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>>15009422 I said it was unfair. But still, it's a better way than saying "duh duh I don't want older pokemon to be transfered, close the bank and let gen 6 to be pure!"
Anonymous
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>>15007948 Only if I get a Misdreavus, I don't give a fuck then.
Anonymous
>tfw I can transfer my bros to a new generation game using new generation moves with new generation mechanics >tfw I can't really use them for the initial adventure since theyre OP and would make the game too easy
Anonymous
>Gen 6 perfect as is >All my competitive Pokemon bros are back on my Black version >Have to make due with imperfect replacements in the mean time >My X version Volc doesn't have Roost or Giga Drain >My X Garchomp doesn't have his perfect IVs and am too lazy to fuck with that in breeding >Have a dozen more competitively built Pokemon all just sitting there I want them back dammit, I love them
Anonymous
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>>15008898 >EV trained pokemon >Cheating ultra casual detected
Anonymous
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>>15007948 Fuck your shit I want my Genesect
Anonymous
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>>15009495 Stick them in your battlebox and use them to battle other players whenever you start missing them.
Anonymous
>>15009495 >>15009499 >All of my gen 5 mons are stuck on an SD card I need to find some super kind anon to remake all of them using pokegen and then upload them to his X/Y version and trade them to me. I must have them back, they muh niggras
Anonymous
>>15008898 The reason why Gen 3 severed the ties with Gen 2 is simple. Till Gen 2 you could give all Pokémon 255 EVs on every stat. Since Gen 3 a Pokémon can only have a sum of 510 EVs.
Anonymous
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>>15009048 They can keep pokebank for future use since the 3ds games won't be cracked
Anonymous
>>15009671 No you daft bastard, the games were simply incompatible. There was no way to get the two games to talk to eachother because the hardware didn't support.
Anonymous
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>>15008898 I'm pretty sure someone found a cloning glitch today.
Anonymous
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>>15009725 You are too stupid to stay here.
>hardware didn't support it Do you even know what are you talking about?
Anonymous
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>>15008970 There's no way to determined if a pokemon has been hacked or not
Unless the trainer is retarded and puts stupid shit like caught in the wrong place/knows illegal moves
Anonymous
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honestly I agree, I'm having so much fun with the online features and it's just going to become a pile of shit once people can transfer. rare pokemon won't be rare anymore and battles will be full of hacked pokemon
Anonymous
December will be the end of Pokemon. Mark my words.
Alexander 3695-0573-5304
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>>15009006 I love using that build on PS. Shadow Ball, Focus Miss, Counter, Destiny Bond, and a focus sash. Usually nets 2 - 3 kos right off the bat.
Anonymous
We still don't even know HOW Game Freak will handle the transfer. What if they somehow find a way to see the difference between an hacked pokemon and a normal one? A method we can't even imagine? After all pokemon are just datas, pure numbers. There must be a value that makes you to see the difference. We just don't know.
Anonymous
pokebank resets your pokemon to level 1 and randomizes their IVs
Sympleasya 3952-7622-5947 --- (Steel) Mawile, Metang, ???
Sympleasya 3952-7622-5947 --- (Steel) Mawile, Metang, ??? Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:28:05 No. 15010007 Report >>15007948 >got a shiny milotic through a trade, no fake stats >loved it like it was my own baby >didn't care if it was legit or not, I didn't even care that it was a shiny >know I'll probably never be able to transfer it to X Anonymous
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Fuck this friend safari bullshit. I don't want to have to bow and scrape so some asshole I don't know can add me for the ten seconds I need to catch a pokemon.
Anonymous
>>15009880 Yeah sure. And X and Y are the worst games in the series and they will bomb hard in sales. Oh wait...
I'm sick of you doomsayers. It's like for you people GF doesn't know what they are doing, like they didn't worked on it for months.
Why you are even here if you are so eager to see pokemon's end? Fuck off.
Anonymous
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>>15009997 I would be almost ok with this.
Anonymous
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>>15009997 Just random the IV, I don't care about level
Anonymous
>>15009966 same way they do with credit cards. checksums.
Anonymous
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>>15010056 >actually taking that post so seriously u bloody wot m8
Anonymous
>>15009365 so what is stoping them from just transfering during the free period
Switch | Dragon | Dragonair, Gabite, Druddigon | 5069 - 5351 - 3588
Switch | Dragon | Dragonair, Gabite, Druddigon | 5069 - 5351 - 3588 Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:33:05 No. 15010138 Report >>15010007 Off topic, but could I interest you in exchanging friend codes? I'm hunting for more steel type coverage zones.
Sympleasya 3952-7622-5947 --- (Steel) Mawile, Metang, ???
Sympleasya 3952-7622-5947 --- (Steel) Mawile, Metang, ??? Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:33:54 No. 15010156 Report >>15010138 With your Dragonair? Of course. I'll add you now.
Anonymous
>>15010114 Hashes wouldn't be useful for very long. Either someone is going to start pumping out tons of Pokemon and attempt to crack the hash or someone is going to dump the game and decompile it to find the salt.
The only way you could maintain perfectly legit Pokemon would be to require the game have a constant internet connection and generate the Pokemon on a server and sign them with a private key.
Anonymous
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way I see it, they can tell if it's hacked in gen 5, but what about hacked in gen 3 or 4, then transferred to 5, then transferred to pokebank/6? their anti-hack checksum probably hadn't been implemented that early, so it's generating them one when they swap gens. Ergo, you could make a max stat shiny raquaza in gen 3, I think you could probably transfer it.
Anonymous
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>>15010135 Nothing. But what if the trial period exipires and they are forced to pay to transfer other hacked pokemon?
On my opinion, they won't pay. Or they will bitch and moan for years about it.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:38:29 No. 15010277 Report >gen 6 >Scizor is missing Roost, Bug Bite, Superpower and Knock Off As much as I love Gen 6... I really, really need these.
Anonymous
>>15010220 people have been trying to crack 3DS games since launch. still no dice. not a single rom.
Switch | Dragon | Dragonair, Gabite, Druddigon | 5069 - 5351 - 3588
Switch | Dragon | Dragonair, Gabite, Druddigon | 5069 - 5351 - 3588 Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:39:26 No. 15010294 Report >>15010156 Excellant. I'll leave myself online a bit so you can make sure you get my third unlocked and such.
Anonymous
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I'd rather not have to keep visiting Gamespot over a three year period to get all the event pokemon again, thanks.
Anonymous
>>15010277 Isn't Roost a TM?
Anonymous
>>15010277 it can get roost via TM, x-scissor is basically the same as bug bite, and knock off isn't that useful compared to its other options
Anonymous
An actual poke-economy would be neat- the game's already borderline-MMO as it is- but other than that GF doesn't have that kind of dedication. Pokemon's too fluid. Gotta go with the flow, enjoy what you have when you have it.
Anonymous
>>15010277 >Scizor is missing Roost, Bug Bite, Superpower and Knock Off >While Gallade has no manner of learning Drain Punch At least Scizor is now a staple of many competitive teams, while Gallade effectively fell out of competitive use for good.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:42:40 No. 15010380 Report >>15010353 Hasn't been since Gen 4, unfortunately.
It returned in B2/W2 as a tutor move.
Anonymous
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>>15010380 Except it is in Gen 6. Check Serebii.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:44:08 No. 15010407 Report Quoted By:
>>15010353 >>15010371 Wait a fucking minute, Roost is a TM again? I just looked it up.
This changes everything.
Anonymous
>>15010375 Welcome to NU, Gallade. I hope he and Charizard get along well.
Anonymous
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>>15010290 Been able to dump 3DS carts for awhile. Just nothing you can do with them.
Sympleasya 3952-7622-5947 --- (Steel) Mawile, Metang, ???
Sympleasya 3952-7622-5947 --- (Steel) Mawile, Metang, ??? Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:46:02 No. 15010442 Report Quoted By:
>>15010294 Oh, no, it's fine. I'm not doing the FS any time soon, I just see a lot of people asking for Mawile and I'd rather them see my FC and add me for it then explain it to them. Thank you, though.
Anonymous
>>15010374 shinies have already become the unusual hats of pokemon.
Do we really need more microtransactions?
Anonymous
>>15007948 No, fuck you. I've had my broloom since fucking emerald, I'm taking him with me, you piece of shit
I hope there's a special room in hell for you where Giratina is waiting to cram his ghostly dragon dick in your ass for all eternity.
Anonymous
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>>15009449 You mean the people who dedicate time and energy to finding loopholes to more efficiently create powerful Pokemon won't want to pay $5 a year? Okay buddy.
Anonymous
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>>15010375 >>15010424 >implying gallade needs drain punch it's always about that close combat
Anonymous
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>>15010450 It's not microtransactions if the primary company isn't generating and selling them for money. It's just stable value of in-game content.
Anonymous
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>>15010455 >not wanting anti matter god ghostly dragon dick your doing it wrong anon
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I kinda agree with this. Like I dont mind hacking whatsoever, I mean I did it myself in Gen 4 and 5 because it was a lot easier to make teams. But now in Gen 6 making a perfect team isnt even that hard plus it is really rewarding to know you actually obtained shit legitimately. And I dont care that others hack as long as its stuff you can obtain legit but I just know that if hacked pokemon get into gen 6 I will stop working for my pokes and just gen them even tho I want to obtain them legit. Idk Im autistic like that. Its kinda the same way with Pokemon Showdown. Why even play the actual game if I want to battle competitively?
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If they did this, it would be ruthless to the players that went through previous generations. I think we should have a little faith. They might have a new way to detect hacked pokemon.
>>15010156 >>15010294 Oh gosh, mawiles and dragonairs... all my safari has to offer is charmeleon, magmar, and ninetales. I would aporeciate it if you added me, 3754-7383-4799. Anonymous
>>15009725 >>15009671 You're both fucking retarded. You couldn't transfer because of the new nature mechanic
Anonymous
>>15010424 >Welcome to NU, Gallade. I hope he and Charizard get along well. Funnily enough, I recall one special snowflake amongst Smogonfags who said how he/she wished for Gallade to become NU so he could -potentially- be used in all tiers.
I wonder how that person will feel now that Gallade really has been reduced to a shitmon that nobody uses anymore save for pokemon hunting -an option he got by sheer luck of draw, rather than by GF's intention.
Brian 1263-6156-0864
>>15010769 >implying Smeargle with Spore, False Swipe, Block, and Ingrain doesn't do the job of Pokemon Hunting better. I can't wait to transfer that guy to Gen VI. He took forever and a day to make, but once I got those moves on him nothing escaped my balls.
M-my Pokeballs that is.
Anonymous
>>15007948 Get rid of 10 years worth of Pokemon to stop some hackers from transferring their pokemon.
I don't know who is getting the short end of the stick here. The people who spent time raising their pokemon or the people who generated them in seconds.
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>>15010630 If you want to look at it like that, that's the least of why you couldn't transfer. Gen 3 added like 12 bytes of random data that were used to generate all sorts of things present and future. They could have just generated the numbers on transfer if they wanted to, but they chose to cut it off for many reasons both technical and stylistic.
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>>15009365 Hey! I have a Shiny legit snorlax I want traded over asshole.
Anonymous
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>>15010885 I don't often wish I saved gifs from 4chan, but that Rex Banner Roadblock image would sure come in handy about now.
Anonymous
Nine to Five Hero !xPOSER9PtU
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>>15009630 How did that happen?
Nine to Five Hero !xPOSER9PtU
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>>15009671 >255 EVs on every stat They were called Stat Exp and it was 65535 on each stat. And it was until gen III, but I think that's what you meant to say.
>>15010630 And then there's this fucking retard.
>>15010874 I have, like, half a Smeargle on Soul Silver and there are no fucking Double Battles. I desperately need to transfer it to Gen V sometime and finish it up.