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Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:23:38 No.15008444 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15008936 >>15008996 >>15009713 >>15009745 >>15011276 >>15014761

This is the newest version of the Guide.
Corrected some spelling/grammar mistakes and updated information.

Please leave a comment!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:27:45 No.15008543 Report

Quoted By: >>15008713

Don't supposed they're tips on trying to obtain certain Hidden power types?

Zach: 2208 5570 0613

Zach: 2208 5570 0613 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:27:45 No.15008544 Report

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Saved, this should help my girlfriend a lot, she just got into Pokemon and wants to compete with me.

Looks good overall.

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:34:03 No.15008713 Report

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>>15008543
Its very hard to choose your own Hidden Power. There is even a Calculator for it :/

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:42:14 No.15008936 Report

Quoted By: >>15009100

>>15008444
Could you add something about egg moves? Like: if I want to pass an egg move through the generations, how can I make sure that it doesn't get overridden while the pokemon is growing in the daycare?

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:44:20 No.15008996 Report

Quoted By: >>15009100

>>15008444
Also the background hinders the readability a lot

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:48:24 No.15009100 Report

Quoted By: >>15009202 >>15009240

>>15008936
have to move it to the bottom manually, new moves bumps it to the top

>>15008996
Wanted to do something dark, but it didn't seem right. maybe ill change the yellow colors or something

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:52:58 No.15009202 Report

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>>15009100
So if the move is accidentally forgotten I need to relearn it before continuing on with the breeding, right?

maybe add this to the guide, for completeness

> Wanted to do something dark, but it didn't seem right. maybe ill change the yellow colors or something

Yeah, the palette is good, it would probably be better without the drawing in the bg

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:54:54 No.15009240 Report

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>>15009100
I'd take it to the Move Deleter and delete all the other attacks to give you some leeway.

Or level it yourself to the point where it doesn't learn any other attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 07:58:57 No.15009335 Report

Quoted By: >>15009602

>Pokemon like Lucario and Togepi has to be evolved before they are ready to be bred
You mean Riolu don't you?

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:11:01 No.15009602 Report

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>>15009335
dammit, V1.3 inc lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:13:44 No.15009662 Report

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I just found a shiny togepi, it has a hardy nature should I just ditch it and try to a perfect IV with the right nature or you think this is decent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:14:57 No.15009694 Report

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>picture of Nidoqueen
>Nidoqueen is infertile
change it to Tauros and Miltank unless they finally fixed that stupid glitch, in which case, disregard me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:15:43 No.15009713 Report

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>>15008444
>Different genders
>Picture of Nidoqueen
>Nidoqueen which CAN'T FUCKING BREED

Put something like Tauros/Miltank or Illumise/Volbeat

Or Male/Female Jellicent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:17:12 No.15009745 Report

Quoted By: >>15009771

>>15008444
Characteristics are wrong. 31 HP is now "Takes Siestas" or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:18:35 No.15009771 Report

Quoted By: >>15009916

>>15009745
Also I just noticed you didn't put what any of the characteristics mean, or how the second row is the row that you want to look for for max IVs.

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:24:11 No.15009916 Report

Quoted By: >>15010026

>>15009771
Also, apparently, the characteristics is the LAST perfect IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:24:35 No.15009926 Report

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>specie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:28:53 No.15010026 Report

Quoted By: >>15010092

>>15009916
False. My 31/31/31/x/31/x is Capable of Taking Hits, and I've had several Likes to Thrash About with perfect SpDef and HP.

Rhyme !t5hNWqHKt.

Rhyme !t5hNWqHKt. Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:29:14 No.15010036 Report

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typo in the part about species, 'specie'

grammatical error next to the nature chart, "female pokemon has', no space between 'chance on' in same paragraph, 'hidden abilities has'

'your~t~ first perfect pokemon', 'PLUSS 4'

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:31:00 No.15010092 Report

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>>15010026

You are right, it was just a coincidence (only 3 cases tested, all same nature).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:33:15 No.15010143 Report

Quoted By: >>15010171

How does one check all the IVs if the guy in Kiloude only tells me what my highest IV is?

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:34:33 No.15010171 Report

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>>15010143
He tells you if an IV is 31 or 0, even if it's all 6. To check, you need to run through a calculator at an higher level

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:37:21 No.15010244 Report

Quoted By: >>15010349

So I have a breeding question. I'm trying to get a Froslass with her Hidden Ability Cursed Body, but as she changes abilities upon evolution from Snorunt, I'm not sure what I have to do to get have her get that ability. Would I have to evolve a Snorunt with its Hidden Ability? Or am I fucked and there's no way to get a Froslass with its Hidden Ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:41:24 No.15010349 Report

Quoted By: >>15010381

>>15010244
Hidden ability Snorunt evolves into hidden ability Froslass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 08:42:43 No.15010381 Report

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>>15010349

Awesome. Thanks for the help.

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

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Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:00:45 No.15010802 Report

Quoted By: >>15010858 >>15010987

Good. But very stale and bland, like a textbook. I read enough of those as is. Make it funny, you know, and a little bit condescending, like this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:03:07 No.15010858 Report

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>>15010802
We should start open sourcing this shit on Github or something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:04:11 No.15010883 Report

Quoted By: >>15010935 >>15010987 >>15011183

Wait a minute, you can only max out 5 stats (with 31 IV's)? I thought you could do all 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:06:14 No.15010935 Report

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>>15010883
Yes, you fuck. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you not just read that in the image?

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:07:58 No.15010987 Report

Quoted By: >>15011034

>>15010802
Oh, another thing that this one does that I liked is that it walks you through an example. I wouldn't have 3 boxes filled with 9 generations of Pumpkaboos all leading up to the (very nearly) perfect one I have now if I hadn't seen how simply it was all possible in this guide.
>>15010883
Only 5, chap. Pick a stat you're not gonna use (I went with Speed on my Pumpkaboo since it'll have Shadow Sneak) and throw it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:09:43 No.15011034 Report

Quoted By: >>15011095

>>15010987
What? You can have 31's across the board. It's just going to take forever and not usually worth it.

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:12:20 No.15011095 Report

Quoted By: >>15011131 >>15015486

>>15011034
Oh. I'd heard it was 5 at the outset of my pumpymilling. Damn! Now I'll have to get that perfect 6 to satisfy myself. Someone ought to fix that in the image as well; seeing it stated up there served as confirmation for me.

One more thing: I'm a very good writer and can likely inject a healthy dose of the sardonic snark that I mentioned the guide could do with. I'll be going to bed soon but I'll leave the thread up if any of the creators want to tell me how to get in touch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:13:59 No.15011131 Report

Quoted By: >>15011193

>>15011095
Don't do it dude, you'll go crazy. Even with two 5IVs parents that cover everything, you'll go batshit insane before getting that [unrelevant, mostly] hexaperfection

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:16:13 No.15011183 Report

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>>15010883
It's possible to get 6 perfect stats, but it's not possible for all those stats to be inherited from the parents. Let's say you have two parents with perfect IVs in everything except HP. One of the parents is holding a Destiny Knot. Your chances of passing down all 5 of your parents' perfect IVs is pretty good, and for every child that inherits all 5 perfect IVs your chances of getting perfect IVs in the last stat are 1 in 32. It may take a couple of hundred eggs, but getting perfect IVs across the board is easier than getting just 4 or 5 perfect IVs in previous generations.

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:16:49 No.15011193 Report

Quoted By: >>15011239

>>15011131
You shut your whore mouth! I can have nothing less than perfection!

I actually told myself that if I'll stop when I get a shiny or perfect 6, whichever comes first. And my last batch had 3/5 with 5 31 IV's. Honestly I'm shooting more for natures now, since out of all these tens of Pumpkaboos I've yet to bust an egg that has a careful pumpkin inside of it.

On that note, once all's said and done I'll have boxes and boxes (well, at least 2 boxes) of Pumpkaboos all with 4+ perfect IV's ready to go for that big Halloween thing we're gonna do.

Or if I end up busy on Halloween I'll distribute them to all you wonderful /vp/eople

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:19:16 No.15011239 Report

Quoted By: >>15011261

>>15011193

That's why I always breed for nature first, I could never take a perfect 5 with the wrong nature

Any intention of throwing one of your pumpkins my way for an imperfect 5IVs Ho-nedge?

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:20:30 No.15011261 Report

Quoted By: >>15011327

>>15011239
I'll send you a friend request, but I simply must be getting to bed soon and if I start trading I'll see all those eggs in my party and think "aw, what the hell". Is J your Trainer name, too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:21:26 No.15011276 Report

Quoted By: >>15011359

>>15008444
thanks op. just found out my mawile has a perfect attack IV, and a 0 Speed IV

what should i go for if i want a good mawile? shes going to be my mega. I should into attack and speed right? now i just need to find something that can breed for speed...

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:23:50 No.15011327 Report

Quoted By: >>15011372

>>15011261
Yep, it is. I added you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:25:35 No.15011359 Report

Quoted By: >>15011379

>>15011276
Mawile's speed is shit anyway, a 0 speed IV doesn't really matter. Sucker Punch it up.

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:25:56 No.15011372 Report

Quoted By: >>15011409

>>15011327
OK. I'm too tired to likely remember who you are, so send me a swapnote or something saying you want a pumpkin.

The vast, VAST majority of them have 31's in Defense, Sp.A,Sp.D, and Speed. HP and Attack only started showing up in the last generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:26:21 No.15011379 Report

Quoted By: >>15011401

>>15011359
So i should aim for defense or something instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:27:10 No.15011401 Report

Quoted By: >>15011441

>>15011379
Yeah, you want to be somewhat bulky, and that 31 attack IV is definitely gonna wreck shit.

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:27:25 No.15011409 Report

Quoted By: >>15011440

>>15011372
It's ok, I imagine it's late on the other side of the globe. I'll send you something, or we will forget about everything and remain almost-bros forever

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:28:41 No.15011440 Report

Quoted By: >>15011455

>>15011409
You know, I've always wanted to get a swapnote from someone, so that's your mission: Swapnote (and that Honedge, I guess) for a pumpkaboo. Draw the best Pumpkaboo you can from memory and send it to me. Should be kewl

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:28:44 No.15011441 Report

Quoted By:

>>15011401
cool beans. I just need to find something with good defense IVs then. My Chesnaught has between 26-30 defense I know...

thanks friend

J - 0748 2749 5863

J - 0748 2749 5863 Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:29:45 No.15011455 Report

Quoted By: >>15011511

>>15011440
I like that, you shall get your terrible drawing

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados]

Kyle [2423 3196 5239] [Gloom, Toxicroak, Ariados] Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:32:16 No.15011511 Report

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>>15011455
OK, I'll see it tomorrow. Hopefully either you or I will pull a really late night again soon so we can make the trade. With that I bid both you and /vp/ good night.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:36:31 No.15011605 Report

Quoted By:

I put this one together for myself since I just began this entire IV breeding thing.
Feel free to do whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:53:12 No.15011948 Report

Quoted By: >>15011971

If I'm breeding Staryu and the one I have has Illuminate (I want Natural Cure), since Staryu is genderless, is there a 50% chance of the ability being either?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:54:34 No.15011971 Report

Quoted By: >>15011991 >>15012057

>>15011948
It's always 50%, regardless of gender, unless we're taking Hidden Abilities into account.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:55:54 No.15011991 Report

Quoted By: >>15012057 >>15012089

>>15011971
OP's pic says female Pokemon have 80% of passing the ability, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 09:59:42 No.15012057 Report

Quoted By:

>>15011971
>>15011991 again
Like right now I have a Illuminate Staryu with Illuminate breeding with a DItto and so far the first 4 eggs have been Illuminate. I'd like Natural Cure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 10:01:22 No.15012089 Report

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>>15011991
Huh. I never got that impression, but maybe I've just had shitty luck. Just keep trying, I guess, there's not really any way to manipulate this for Staryu.

Alternatively, save up for an Ability Stone, but they're expensive as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 10:03:49 No.15012139 Report

Quoted By: >>15014714

If I have a ditto with 4 perfect IV's and my pokemon i'm trying to breed has 2 perfect IV's would it be better to use a destiny knot or a power item to pass down to try and get 3+ perfect IV's?

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 12:13:08 No.15014714 Report

Quoted By:

>>15012139
Destiny knot has a chance of passing down 5
Power Items has guaranteed effect o passing down 1. I'd suggest pushing your luck for all 5 IVs passing down.

Anyways, thanks fo the updats guy. I need more comments so I can correct the picture!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2013 12:15:15 No.15014761 Report

Quoted By: >>15014861

>>15008444
Why not super training

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 12:20:08 No.15014861 Report

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>>15014761
Super training takes about 1-2 minuts for every 12 points of EV. Its even slower for pokemon who doesn't have some Vs already, including the fact that some pokemon has a special ability that let them shoot multiple bllas instead of one poerful ball which gives lots of points.

Super training is effective pre-league because thats the only way to do it.

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808

Charlie: 3411-1576-5808 Tue 22 Oct 2013 12:48:05 No.15015486 Report

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>>15011095
Can add me on Skype: charli2203
I'm looking forward to it.

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