Anonymous
Breeding pokemon is just like real life selective breeding of animals. You breed for the best traits ie always use the pokemon with best potential out of their generation and breed them for the next generation
Anonymous
>>15028233 I have 100 friends even from before getting the game, and none have a ditto, so I just said fuck it, there is no fucking way.
So I just keep breeding gastlys that have "above average" potential until I get "relatively superior", and then I should eventually get "outstanding" or whatever the next rank is?
I thought IVs were completely random?
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Anonymous
>>15028336 I made a quick guide for another anon in a different thread. It may not be perfect but I think it's pretty easy to understand.
Anonymous
>>15028550 >1. Catch a bunch of Ditto in the Friend Safari. (All pokemon in the FS have at least 2 perfect IVs) Not only am I fucked already since I'll never find one but I also have no clue what you just said in everything else
Guess I'm just too dumb for this shit
Time to go back and get raped by pokemon faster than me even though we have the same mon in wifi
Sorry for wasting your time
Anonymous
Anonymous
I'll try to explain OP..
Anonymous
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>>15028860 In case you didn't know, the item Destiny Knot guarantees that 5 random IVs from both parents are passed down to the egg.
If you have any questions let me know
Anonymous
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>>15028733 no, fuck you OP, this defeatist attitude is exactly why you failed high school.
it doesn't need to be a ditto, it has to be anything that can breed with ghastly (and it has to be male, you want a ghastly after all) SURELY you have a FS like that, if not, go spam the FSGeneral thread
if you don't understand something, ASK, heck, go step by step and ask when you hit a rock, just don't give up.
Nikita 2680-9914-7070 (DITTO / Audino / Aipom)
Nikita 2680-9914-7070 (DITTO / Audino / Aipom) Tue 22 Oct 2013 19:44:16 No. 15028988 Report >>15028371 Want a ditto farm, buddydude?
Anonymous
Quick question.
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 19:45:38 No. 15029048 Report This may seem like a dumb question, but how does a person check the IV on HP?
Anonymous
>>15028115 This picture is a simple as it gets.
If you can't wrap your head around it, then you should stay away from breeding.
Breeding has never been easier, seriously.
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>>15028860 Oh and in case it wasn't obvious, this takes time usually because it might take a while for your Eevee parents to make a perfect baby, but eventually you'll get it.
Friend Safari is post-game material, so if you havent beaten the main storyline, don't bother trying to get an optimal potential pokemon.
In other words OP- you're doing it wrong.
Anonymous
>>15029048 The same way you'd check for anything else. He'll say if the HP is good or not.
By the way, will you add me? I need some gogoat's for breeding. I'll post my FC when you reply.
Anonymous
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>>15029122 Oops, forgot the pic.
Tyler: 0516-7273-9039
>>15029048 Kiloude City Pokemon Center. The IV checker says something along the lices of "Its greatest potential lies in its HP" just like it would for any other stat.
Anonymous
>>15029048 The man in the pokemon center of the town where the Friend Safari is will say his HP has optimal potential if it is 31.
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 19:51:55 No. 15029326 Report >>15029177 Sure, always looking to get more friend safaris.
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>>15029037 One of them is t what you think it is. If they are all 31 there is no possible way for the children to have bad IVs when one is holding destiny knot
Anonymous
>>15029326 Alright! I'm not actually sure what mine is.
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Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 19:55:06 No. 15029457 Report Quoted By:
>>15029235 >>15029194 >>15029177 Thought it would be that. Was curious if there was a way other than that, like with the guide for "43 in nature neutral, 47 in nature positive, 38 in nature negative stats" regarding dittos from Friend Safari.
Anonymous
>>15029037 I've heard that it can pick the same IV multiple times.
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>>15029037 Perfect IVs means 31 in every stat. If they both really have 31 IVs in everything then 5/6 stats in your egg will be perfect when holding Destiny Knot. Period.
It's impossible for the egg to have "Shit IVs"
Brandon 3153 4120 5558 (Pyroar, Magmar, ???)
Brandon 3153 4120 5558 (Pyroar, Magmar, ???) Tue 22 Oct 2013 19:57:05 No. 15029544 Report Quoted By:
Anonymous
>>15029458 Nope. 5 different IVs.
Aden 0576-4063-7988
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>>15028988 Would you be kind enough to add me?
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 19:58:41 No. 15029625 Report >>15029409 Water: Krabby, Floatzel, ???? (Won't know till you log in)
3265-5547-8658 (Emolga, Zebstrika, Helioptile)
3265-5547-8658 (Emolga, Zebstrika, Helioptile) Tue 22 Oct 2013 20:00:08 No. 15029685 Report Quoted By:
>>15028988 C-can I have a ditto farm?
Anonymous
>>15029458 >>15029588 Just realized I failed to attach the destiny knot to the father.
GG no re
Anonymous
>>15029625 On! Thanks for letting me know, btw.
oklys 2878-9759-1773
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>>15028988 Fuck hate to get in on this begging but might as well. Add me please?
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 20:02:47 No. 15029793 Report Quoted By:
>>15029691 Frogadier for #3! That might be useful
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>>15028550 >4. Use the PC's marking system to mark which stat the Dittos have a 31 in. Holy fucking shit is this why some of my traded Dittos actually bother to use those? Fuck this is way better than what I've been doing, arranging them in a 2D matrix by their max stats.
BRB fixing all the shit I have broken
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>>15029686 You dun goof'd.
Anonymous
>>15028550 >>15028860 >>15029122 This doesn't seem very complicated, but I have a question.
Say I want to MM for a shiny whatever. Let's say Froakie.
Once I have my Froakie with 5 perfect IVs, what happens when I start breeding it with my Jap Ditto with not so great stats?
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>>15028988 I'd love one. Mine is Electabuzz/Dedenne/Galvantula
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oklys 2878-9759-1773
You still pass on all the great IVs with Destiny Knot. Give it to the Froakie with perfect IVs, and if the Jap Ditto has a nature you want, then give it an everstone. Then start breeding your ass off and eventually you'll get a shiny with a good nature and 5 perfect IVs. A glorious abomination.
Anonymous
>>15029847 Yer fucked. It will probably nab a few of the good stats though.
Anonymous
>>15030007 Hmm.
What is the rule for Masuding? Different language or just region?
Anonymous
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>>15029965 it grabs 5 iv from BOTH parents, so the froakie will probably be worse than the dad
oklys 2878-9759-1773
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>>15029965 Just kidding I'm a dumb fuck I thought Destiny Knot only worked on the Parent holding it.
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 20:11:23 No. 15030156 Report >>15030071 Different language. If it has a language tag next to its name it's good.
Anonymous
>>15030156 So in theory, if I posted on here looking for someone from a different language code who was also trying to get a shiny Froakie, we could both create a perfect IV Froakie set and trade to eachother for the MM?
Anonymous
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon)
Minty 2079-6825-2426(Grass: Gogoat, Tangela, Swadloon) Tue 22 Oct 2013 20:16:23 No. 15030356 Report Quoted By:
>>15030239 In theory, yes. Or at least in the same egg group, though Froakie breeding seems to be common enough it shouldn't be too big of a problem to find one.
2552-1088-1672
Figured I'd ask here. Is it worth getting pokemon with 5-6 perfect IVs for comp, or would 3-4 suffice?
Dynamod 1306 - 5915 - 2706
>>15030293 This, OP. this should clear things up a bit
a few minor notes though: Females can pass down egg moves now, and males can pass down hidden abilities if you breed with a ditto.
Anonymous
>>15030672 >males can pass down hidden abilities if you breed with a ditto. Is this proven?
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Hey guys, I've been trying to get a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Torchic for awhile and so far I've only got some 4 IV ones and 3 boxes of duds. I have a 4 IV Jolly Torchic Male with Everstone and a 2 IV Ditto with Destiny Knot.
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I wrote this for a friend OP, and maybe you can use it too:
pastebin.com/aWbbwjwF Dynamod 1306 - 5915 - 2706
>>15030486 If you really have your heart into playing competitively, get the 5 max IV's. The difference is whether a sweeper will one or two shot you many times. The only reason why your IV's shouldn't be maxed is because you want them deliberately slow, either for trick room / Aegislash / Focus Sash shenanigans.
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>>15030707 Yes, I've done it a ton. The rate is close to 50%
Anonymous
>>15030707 Yes, and they pass down abilities at a significantly lower rate than female.
Want x ability? Use a female.
Dynamod 1306 - 5915 - 2706
>>15030707 yes it is. I have proof in my breeding box, Marill who knows both belly drum and Aqua tail, which would be impossible any other generation.
Anonymous
>>15030784 Does both of them having the hidden ability affect it?
Most of my Froakies had Protean once I had a male and female with it.
Dynamod 1306 - 5915 - 2706
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>>15030808 LOL sorry guess I didn't read the question closely enough.
Anonymous
>>15030838 Female always passes hidden ability
2552-1088-1672
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>>15030760 So for instance, Aegislash with max IVs in everything but Speed and Sp.Atk, seeing as you want him slower for shield forme fun. Alrighty, thanks man.
Anonymous
So, does MM works on different languajes only or also with different countries? I know a japanese Gastly says "JPN" next to its name, but what if that japanese dude is playing in english... does MM work? is it region based or language based?
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>>15028988 oh god would you please add me
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>>15030486 Technically just 1 or 2 would suffice. Especially since all flat battles nowadays are played at level 50. IVs are only a 16 point nerf instead of a 31, and an IV difference of something like 28-31 is the exact same stat.
But the only stats you ever really need are Speed and HP, and the latter is incredibly situational "being at an odd number of HP so you can switch into stealth rocks twice and live" type of things. Your Garchomp with 500 attack isn't going to fail to OHKO the Infernape with 100 defense and 100 HP using Earthquake. So having 497 Attack instead won't really matter much in the long run. And that Infernape has no chance of surviving that earthquake even with 131 HP and 131 defense instead of just 100 each stat because no investment. However, if they had the same base speed and your Garchomp was a single point slower, you'd lose and die to Infernape's ice punch every single time.
Maybe you'll run into like, a single instance of something surviving with like 2 HP left, but that's a situation that barely happens once every like, 50 matches or so at best. And usually you can't even tell if that would've KO'd without the investment or it was all blamed on RNG fucking you over giving you a bad multiplier for that attack anyway.
Anonymous
>>15030874 Not even remotely true
I had tons of fletchlings with BIG PECKS from a Gale Wings mother
Anonymous
>>15031261 Are you giving the female an everstone? Everstone mechanics changed this gen, passed ability is affected by it immensely.
I don't think it's 100% like that guy said, but it's remotely true, something like 75-90. My three boxes of Magic Guard Abra can vouch for it compared to my one box of synchronize/inner focus
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>>15028115 It takes time and luck, keep breeding and each time you get a better poke replace the other one in day care.
If other parent has 31 in speed, HP and def and other has 31 in speed, atk and def use Atk or HP EV training item to pass those down.
TLDR replace the other parent with better offspring
Anonymous
>Have two Gastly in the daycare >One at 31/x/x/31/31/31 >One at 31/x/31/31/31/x >On holding Destiny Knot >3 full boxes and still no 31/x/31/31/31/31
Anonymous
What does the iv judge say if the pokemon has a zero iv I want to know for aegislash.
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>>15028988 mind adding me? I'll give you a dollar. I have wartortals in my safari, not sure what else 4468-1200-2346
Anonymous
Does competitive breeding really lead to fun and profit? Or are online battles just legendaries all day erry day?
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>>15031573 After he comments on your highest IVs, if he finds an IV that's zero or something low like that (Don't know exact value in which he says it) he'll comment on how low the particular stat is.
Carlos (GHOST || Lampent/Phantump/Drifblim) 0946-2330-6291
Carlos (GHOST || Lampent/Phantump/Drifblim) 0946-2330-6291 Tue 22 Oct 2013 20:52:01 No. 15031761 Report Quoted By:
>>15031515 Nah, just made a 31/31/31/X/31/31 Adamant Magikarp. It's possible, but it fucking sucks because it takes forever. Took me 2 boxes and a half.
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>>15031708 I've gotten some good battles so far.
And it's always fun to wreck some dumbshit's team of six legendaries. Aden 0576-4063-7988
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>>15031515 Would you be willing to hand off one of those Ghastlys?
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>>15031708 >Or are online battles just legendaries all day erry day? I still don't get your reasoning.
Celebi can't travel through time in a battle.
Celebi can, however, have 7 weaknesses, the most of any Pokemon in existence, including a few 4x weaknesses.
Entei can't shoot Volcanos. In fact, it's worse at using fire moves than Salamence, a "non-legendary" Pokemon.
What is even the mindset around legendaries? Is it just people being uninformed not looking at the actual data of how, until HG/SS events, Entei's strongest fire move was Fire Fang? How Articuno is defensive, but starts most battles with 50% of its health gone? What do I even have to say about things like Regigias?
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>>15031515 Your RNG is broken, sorry.
Aden 0576-4063-7988
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>>15031708 I think you get the point.
Anonymous
Why are people so obsessed with friend safari dittos? I just went from abysmal adamant larvesta + abysmal something ditto to 31/x/31/31/31/31/ timid larvesta in about two hours while doing some other shit as well. That's a pretty short time for a perfect pokémon, isn't it? Compared to BW at least.
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>>15031345 I can confirm it's not 100%, when I finally got the right nature for Hawlucha he had limber even though I had an unburden with everstone as female parent.
Pom @ 3024-6095-5894
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>>15032119 Because it's overall faster to do the same thing with 3-perfect or 4-perfect IV dittos.
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>>15031898 They're entry level powerful, they have high stats and powerful moves with little to no investment of effort.
A lot of legendaries are only on-level with many other pokemon when it's said and done.
However, cover legendaries are bullshit.
