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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:27:08 No.15111446 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15111492 >>15111544 >>15114146

Are there any Pokémon that get objectively worse as they evolve from either a design and competitive standpoint? Preferably both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:29:50 No.15111492 Report

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>>15111446
None intended so far.

That would make for an interesting idea though.
Eviolite abuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:31:19 No.15111525 Report

Quoted By: >>15113598

Doublade > Aegislash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:31:53 No.15111544 Report

Quoted By: >>15111977 >>15112599

>>15111446
Raichu.
Most definitely from a competitive standpoint, subjectively from a design standpoint, although the majority would side with Pikachu, for being the mascot and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:32:15 No.15111552 Report

Quoted By: >>15113168

Vigoroth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:32:34 No.15111559 Report

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Timburr is fucking perfect. then he only gets more and more retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:33:28 No.15111582 Report

Quoted By: >>15111619

No pokemon have lower stats when they evolve of that's what you're asking. In fact, when scyther evolves into scizor, it has the same base stat total just with different distribution, making it the pokemon with the least significant change in stats when it evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:33:30 No.15111584 Report

Quoted By: >>15114037

Ambipom is a fucking travesty of a design.

Both of Fennekin's evos too. I wanted something Ninetails-ish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:35:01 No.15111613 Report

Quoted By: >>15111704 >>15114031

Dusclops > Dusknoir
It's objectively worse since Dusclops can have eviolite on him and Dusknoir's stats are only slightly higher, not to mention Dusknoir is ugly as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:35:24 No.15111619 Report

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>>15111582
That is unless you count shedinja as an evolution, then that would mean shedinja is the only pokemon whose stats go down when it evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:35:34 No.15111621 Report

Quoted By: >>15111766

isnt scyther and magneton faster than their evos.

also maybe pokes crippled by poor type additions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:37:08 No.15111654 Report

Quoted By: >>15114062

Surskit.

Awesome offensive typing. Then it was taken away with that fucking flying/bug bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:37:55 No.15111665 Report

Quoted By: >>15111704 >>15111832 >>15113232 >>15113373 >>15113482

It's almost universally agreed that Braixen > Delphox

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:40:19 No.15111704 Report

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>>15111613
dusknoir's cooler than that sack of crap dusclops

>>15111665
It's almost universally agreed you suck cock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:43:40 No.15111766 Report

Quoted By: >>15111805

>>15111621

Magneton also has Levitate, which helps it not get fucked by Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:45:19 No.15111805 Report

Quoted By: >>15111924

>>15111766
>Magneton also has Levitate

Guess again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:46:29 No.15111832 Report

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>>15111665
It's almost universally agreed that Fennekin > both of its evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:50:51 No.15111924 Report

Quoted By: >>15111955 >>15113291

>>15111805

Huh. I very distinctly remember Magneton having it at some point, and if I evolved it to Magnezone I'd lose it.

I guess I have brain problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:52:08 No.15111955 Report

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>>15111924
It learns Magnet rise which gives the same effect, you might be thinking of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 08:53:02 No.15111977 Report

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>>15111544
Raichu has its base speed bolstered to 110

Might be more useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:19:05 No.15112449 Report

Quoted By: >>15113725 >>15114395

Slowbro is way better than slowking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:22:36 No.15112507 Report

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elekid

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:28:27 No.15112593 Report

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Charmander

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:28:52 No.15112599 Report

Quoted By: >>15112672

>>15111544
LO Raichu doesn't do that much less damage than Pikachu and can take a hit and sits in a way better speed tier

and substitute just got worse so Pikachu is even more fucked

Raichu is better than Pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:32:54 No.15112672 Report

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>>15112599
Yeah, that Speed buff really helped out Raichu. I told a friend that Pikachu was superior because the power offset the speed, but now I'm compelled to give him the 411.

Also Choice Specs Voltswitch doin me gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:51:10 No.15113056 Report

Quoted By: >>15113140

But... But every one of Raichu's stats are higher than Pilachu's... What are you all getting at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:55:40 No.15113140 Report

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>>15113056
light ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:56:56 No.15113168 Report

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>>15111552

Thread was over right here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:57:58 No.15113187 Report

Quoted By: >>15113214 >>15113335

Dusclops is better than Dusknoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 09:59:10 No.15113214 Report

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>>15113187
Came here to post this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:00:12 No.15113232 Report

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>>15111665
I wish furries would fuck off from /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:03:20 No.15113291 Report

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>>15111924
"I guess I have brain problems"

I chuckled, cheers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:05:14 No.15113335 Report

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>>15113187
Porygon-Z is like this as well. Any other evolutions rendered useless because of Eviolite?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:07:29 No.15113373 Report

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>>15111665
'no'

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2191 7639 5863 Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:08:29 No.15113388 Report

Quoted By: >>15113446 >>15113598

Vigoroth, Scyther, Pikachu, Chansey, and Dusclops are the only Pokemon I can think of that are competitive and not fully evolved.
That said, Doublade has some potential, since it can have eviolite, always has base 110 attack and the same defense as its shield form evo, and "good enough" special defense with the eviolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:12:15 No.15113446 Report

Quoted By: >>15113486

>>15113388
Yeah, I'd rather run Slaking than Vigoroth. Vigoroth is OK. At least better than most NFEs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:14:26 No.15113482 Report

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>>15111665
>It's almost universally agreed that Braixen > Delphox for the furries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:14:45 No.15113486 Report

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>>15113446
I kinda wish Slaking got a mega evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:18:05 No.15113539 Report

Quoted By: >>15113598 >>15113699

Doublade is much better than Aegislash, both competitively and by design.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:20:56 No.15113598 Report

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>>15111525
>>15113388
>>15113539
Mah Niggas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:25:31 No.15113699 Report

Quoted By: >>15113769

>>15113539
Considering it's immune to the only Special priority attack in the game, it's actually not bad at all.

110 attack is kinda mediocre though, especially when it doesn't have a nice damage-boosting ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:26:38 No.15113725 Report

Quoted By: >>15114395

>>15112449
These are alternate evos, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:29:40 No.15113769 Report

Quoted By: >>15113873

>>15113699
I agree that no-guard sucks, but it's slightly better than having no defence/sp.defence for a turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:34:18 No.15113873 Report

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>>15113769
Except that only applies with Shadow Sneak. Like any other priority move there's no point in using it unless it's going to secure a kill anyway.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:39:57 No.15113973 Report

Quoted By: >>15114023 >>15114084

>ctr + f
>no Dragonair
I'm losing hope in you guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:42:58 No.15114023 Report

Quoted By: >>15114061

>>15113973
Dragonair is competitively shit and only fucking retards state opinions as fact. Admittedly there are some in the thread.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:43:27 No.15114031 Report

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>>15111613
Duskull > Dusclops was retarded too.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:43:45 No.15114037 Report

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>>15111584
>Ambipom is a fucking travesty of a design.
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:45:19 No.15114061 Report

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>>15114023
I think he was referring to the design, which is much much much better than his evolution Dragonite.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:45:22 No.15114062 Report

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>>15111654
>love Masquerains design
>Gamefreak still doesn't give it Water/Bug
Flying/Bug is bullshit typing and they know its.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:45:59 No.15114072 Report

Quoted By: >>15114107 >>15114233

Surskit

Only because it has a unique and interesting typing that gets thrown away in favor of the oh so common Bug/Flying type

This little bugger could have become a water spider

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:46:44 No.15114084 Report

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>>15113973
Don't worry, many of us feel this on a design level.

I'll never forget the disappointment as a child, seeing my beautiful dragon evolve into some clumsy ugly blob.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:49:00 No.15114107 Report

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>>15114072

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:49:28 No.15114114 Report

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HARDURF
Meganium ashit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:49:36 No.15114118 Report

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Sneasle.

I wish. Weavile is fucking ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:51:40 No.15114146 Report

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>>15111446
Haunter changing into Gengar. Sure final stage garbage and whatnot, but his final stage looks nothing like the stages beforehand and it feels like he belongs to the cleffa line more than anything else.

Also a lot of people aren't liking Goodra, despite its two previous forms looking more... drippy.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:55:01 No.15114178 Report

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Goodra and Dragonite. Seriously, they fucked it up for Goomy/Sliggo and Dratini/Dragonair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 10:58:19 No.15114233 Report

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>>15114072
This reminds me that when I first played RSE I caught one and tought it had awesome typing, so I trained it and it evolved but I never bothered to check the evolution's typing thinking it wouldn't change (it didn't make sense for it to change to me) imagine my surprise when 2 generations later I get one in White Forest and notice that it turns Bug/Flying. Biggest disappointment of my life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 11:07:36 No.15114395 Report

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>>15112449
>>15113725
so many people make this mistake. look on GTS, heaps of people with kings rock on slowbro. lel.

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