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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:13:41 No.15115464 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15115479 >>15115497 >>15115503 >>15115573 >>15118720 >>15120434

So how is Noivern? My team could use a dragon type and Goomy looks retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:14:30 No.15115479 Report

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>>15115464
he's shit
subpar sp atk
mediocre speed
fucking TERRIBLE defenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:15:34 No.15115497 Report

Quoted By: >>15115526 >>15115562

>>15115464
>4x weak to ice
>anything but NU
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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:15:52 No.15115503 Report

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>>15115464
>Goomy looks retarded
GTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:16:01 No.15115508 Report

Quoted By: >>15115566

He's basically Crobat the dragon type, just with a slightly worse base attack.

Get over Goodra's look; it's infinitely better than this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:17:02 No.15115518 Report

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He's great.

Solid special attack

Great speed

Interesting movepool and good ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:17:29 No.15115525 Report

Quoted By: >>15115556

What about Malamar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:17:38 No.15115526 Report

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>>15115497
>NU
>4x ice weak pokemon dominate the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:18:31 No.15115542 Report

Quoted By: >>15119041 >>15121571

Great Sp. Attack and Speed, learns Hurricane and Dragon Pulse.

Dies if sneezed on, so ya GOTTA GO FAST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:19:15 No.15115556 Report

Quoted By: >>15121622 >>15121755

Can probably make a decent cleaner/scout. His Sp.Atk isn't all that high but he has decently powerful moves to compensate. Too bad he doesn't get Fire Blast or some other better moves, really.

>>15115525
Malamar's pretty crap, sadly. I imagine he'll be fun in lower tiers. Shame, just wish he had a higher BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:19:38 No.15115562 Report

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>>15115497
this had better be a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:19:48 No.15115566 Report

Quoted By: >>15121357

>>15115508
Which is especially awful considering this gen's dragon nerf and poison buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:20:05 No.15115573 Report

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>>15115464

Fantastic as a scout (one of the fastest speeds in the game, learns U-turn, boombox draco meteor and air cutter / hurricane) but subpar as a special sweeper. Make him timid, give him Speed / SpAtk EVs, and slap choice specs on him (or king's rock, my luck's good enough to get flinch u-turns a fair amount of the time)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:22:04 No.15115603 Report

Quoted By: >>15115640

okay so, did Kingdra get anything? Goodra still looks too stupid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:23:06 No.15115622 Report

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its pretty bad. but use one anyway because its a fucking bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:23:59 No.15115640 Report

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>>15115603
It got the Drizzle duration nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:24:16 No.15115651 Report

Quoted By: >>15115931

>Goodra
>Alright stats
>Alright movepool
>Looks weird as fuck
I won't run Goodra just because of its looks. Maybe if the shiny isn't such a repulsive white colour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:25:18 No.15115669 Report

Quoted By: >>15118663

Man, I just need something that Earthquake won't kill.

Why is this so hard to find this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 12:41:25 No.15115931 Report

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>>15115651
>alright stats
It's the fucking Pseudo this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 14:46:35 No.15118435 Report

Quoted By: >>15118858 >>15119041

Jesus. So much uninformed idiocy in this thread.

Noivern's great, but his game revolves around moving first. Good Spc Atk and Speed makes him a terrific sweeper, particularly with moves like Draco Meteor and Hurricane to back him up, along with coverage from moves like Flamethrower.

He's pretty feeble though, with average defences. Not bad, just average. Most things will be a 2HKO, but Ice absolutely cuts through him. If confronted by an Ice type, Flamethrower or get out of there. If confronted by a Water type, switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 14:55:15 No.15118663 Report

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>>15115669
Gourgeist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 14:57:31 No.15118720 Report

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>>15115464
Go Timid.
Sp.Att & Spe EVs
Boomburst does more damage than STAB Dragon Pulse & Air Slash
Frisk is a good ability since Boomburst already hits through substitutes and if paired with Taunt and U-Turn makes Noivern a fantastic scouter.
Your choice for the fourth.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 14:58:51 No.15118751 Report

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I always assumed he was a horrible Pokemon because he looks like Batty Koda from FernGully.

Calvin 3496 9929 2621

Calvin 3496 9929 2621 Thu 24 Oct 2013 15:02:51 No.15118858 Report

Quoted By: >>15121402

>>15118435
Problem is that his offense just isn't good enough.
His flamethrower will barely do more than throw mawile down to yellow.
If he doesn't get a kill, then he is dead and with fairy his biggest STAB has a slight issue.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 15:09:03 No.15119041 Report

Quoted By: >>15121534

>>15115542
>>15118435
>Using a great scout as a mediocre sweeper
>Not getting the hint from the abilities frisk and infiltrator
>No Boomburst mentioned despite it being his best move that can hit through subs
>Using Dragon Pulse

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 15:53:53 No.15120434 Report

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>>15115464
If i ever get to do a rom hack i'll have to slap huge power on this fucker cause he's weak as fuck and only good for scouting and fucking up subs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:10:23 No.15120915 Report

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I haven't used one yet, but I intend to soon.

Is he really that frail? 85/80/80 doesn't sound that bad, and he has a pretty good amount of resistances.

What notable things does he outspeed with timid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:19:04 No.15121210 Report

Quoted By: >>15121295

Is there any use for Crobat anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:21:44 No.15121295 Report

Quoted By: >>15121324

>>15121210
Crobat is faster and has a less-targeted typing if that makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:22:48 No.15121324 Report

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>>15121295
yeah I get that.

Most people prepare for a dragon type, compared to Crobat.

How should I set my Crobat though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:23:42 No.15121357 Report

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>>15115566
>Dragon
>nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:25:17 No.15121402 Report

Quoted By: >>15121564

>>15118858
>His flamethrower will barely do more than throw mawile down to yellow.
>Base 55 Sp. Def

You're an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:29:25 No.15121534 Report

Quoted By: >>15121571 >>15121583 >>15121613

>>15119041
It doesn't say Dragon Pulse anywhere on that post, silly anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:30:29 No.15121564 Report

Quoted By: >>15121685

>>15121402
Mega has 95, and who uses regular Mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:30:43 No.15121571 Report

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>>15121534
see >>15115542

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:31:08 No.15121583 Report

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>>15121534
not the guy you're responding to but it does.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:31:57 No.15121613 Report

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>>15121534

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:32:15 No.15121622 Report

Quoted By: >>15121713

>>15115556
>Malamar used Super Power
>Malamar used Super Power
>Malamar used Super Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:32:34 No.15121630 Report

Quoted By: >>15121678 >>15121699

So what does everyone think, OU or UU once the metagame settles down?

I'd vote high UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:34:16 No.15121678 Report

Quoted By: >>15121763

>>15121630
absolutely 0 chance of being OU

solid UU most likely

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:34:37 No.15121685 Report

Quoted By: >>15125468

>>15121564
>and who uses regular Mawile

People who want to use its Mega Evolution?

Also base 95 is dealable anyhow.

>252+ SpA (custom) Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 194-230 (56.89 - 67.44%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:35:05 No.15121699 Report

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>>15121630
Being one of the few pokemon that get Boomburst and also not being crappy will probably get it a slot in UU atleast.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:35:24 No.15121713 Report

Quoted By: >>15121739 >>15121748 >>15121817

>>15121622
King's Shield bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:36:19 No.15121739 Report

Quoted By: >>15121815

>>15121713
Malamar's attack rose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:36:35 No.15121748 Report

Quoted By: >>15121786 >>15121815

>>15121713
>Malamar's Attack Increased 2 stages

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:36:55 No.15121755 Report

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>>15115556
Malamar is pretty great, just give it sticky web or trick room support so it can get the first move off. I run it like this.

252 HP
252 attack
4 DEF
@Roseli Berry
Trick Room
Foul Play
Superpower
Light Screen

If it can start getting superpowers off before it gets hit, it can tear through all kinds of things, especially if you bring it in on Intimidate. In fact the only check I have encountered was mega mawile's Play Rough, so I gave it the berry to reduce that damage and it's worked out solidly so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:37:07 No.15121763 Report

Quoted By: >>15121889

>>15121678
I think UU too, but 0 chance in OU is a little harsh imo. I mean with high speed, u-turn, frisk, and decent special attacking potential I could see him being a competent enough scout to do well in OU.

Stelle 0490-5495-2462 [Pikachu, Dedenne, Galvantula]

Stelle 0490-5495-2462 [Pikachu, Dedenne, Galvantula] Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:37:37 No.15121786 Report

Quoted By: >>15121827 >>15121860 >>15121940 >>15121990

>>15121748
>Steel/Ghost
Hello?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:38:24 No.15121815 Report

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>>15121739
>>15121748
And then? he's still gonna get wrecked after that attack Boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:38:26 No.15121817 Report

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>>15121713

MALAMAR WENT SUPER SAIYAN

THERE AINT NO STOPPING CTHULHU BITCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:38:41 No.15121827 Report

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>>15121786
>Malamar used Night Slash

Hello? Who would use Superpower on Aegislash in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:39:39 No.15121860 Report

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>>15121786

>Malamar used night slash

DEAD BITCH

FUCKING DEAD AS SHIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:40:42 No.15121889 Report

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>>15121763
it's way worse than it sounds, compared to other dragons it's too weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:42:08 No.15121940 Report

Quoted By: >>15121973

>>15121786
no, contrary means that using king's shield will RAISE your attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:42:51 No.15121973 Report

Quoted By: >>15122101

>>15121940
He's talking about using Superpower on Aegislash, which nobody would do anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:43:40 No.15121990 Report

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>>15121786
>Contrary
Hello?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:46:58 No.15122101 Report

Quoted By: >>15122136

>>15121973
The person who even brought Aegislash up was talking aboutusing King's Shield which would be the stupidest thing to use against anything with Contrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:48:01 No.15122136 Report

Quoted By: >>15122394

>>15122101
Yes, that one.

but then
>Ghost/Steel

Which would imply Superpower against Ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 16:57:13 No.15122394 Report

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>>15122136
Hypothetical situation.

Malamar leads, opponent switches for Aegislash.
Malamar uses Superpower. It hits nothing.
Aegislash uses King's Shield. Malamar uses Night Slash. Malamar's attack increases.
Malamar uses Night Slash until King's Shield fails, or hits anyway because Aegislash used another move.

One way or another, Malamar's getting his increased stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Oct 2013 18:34:29 No.15125468 Report

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>>15121685
The optimal megawile spread has 252 hp so it's probably not guaranteed, unless you're going modest i guess.

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