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Ok, so I have a question. In the past I have run perfectly effective and deadly sets for a mixed Infernape, and a mixed Lucario. Yes, I'm aware those are probably terrible in the meta game but anywhere else they wreck shit. Looking at the stats and movepool and stats, Greninja should be able to do the same thing, yet even after EVing him in both attacks he just seems... lackluster. He's got the speed, he's got the moves, am I just doing something wrong? Any suggestions for a decent mixed Greninja?
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> a mixed Infernape, and a mixed Lucario. Yes, I'm aware those are probably terrible in the meta game If you consider two staples of the Gen 4 OU metagame seen on almost every team before Scizor got the huge buff in Platinum as terrible in the metagame, I guess. Even then both stayed OU throughout the past two gens despite shit like weather and the Platinum buffs to a bunch of Pokemon. They weren't even slightly bad.
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>>15129990 I wasn't saying Infernape and Lucario are bad, I was saying from what I hear mixed sets are frowned upon or laughed at. I'm trying to figure out how to run a mixed Greninja with the same power and versatility that a mixed Infernape and mixed Lucario provided
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>>15129874 >>15129990 Yeah, MixApe was OP as fuck in the early stages of Gen 4 Meta. Then Platinum move tutors came and fucked EVERYTHING. It was almost mandatory to have a Zapdos or Heatran or anything that could check a Scizor on your team.
2062-9731-0406 Snover/Sneasal/Cloyster
>>15130130 Exactly, and I'm trying to replicate that, but so far everyone seems to flip shit for special Greninja. I like mixed mons, and can't seem to figure out why I can't put together a mixed Greninja. Thoughts?
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It's power creep. He has the stats for a gen 4 meta game, but this gen heavily nerfed offense in general, so it doesn't have the same sweeping power as it would in previous gens.
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>>15130230 There's no reason to. What made MixApe viable was that his attacking stats were basically equal, it all depended on EV Spread. With Greninja, his Special outclasses the fuck out of his Attack, so you're better off focusing on just that.
2062-9731-0406 Snover/Sneasal/Cloyster
>>15130426 His attack stat is still viable though. I get that's what the norm, or the meta is, but I'm not trying to build something standard.
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>>15130533 That attack stat would have been viable like 10 ago.