>>15144905>I'm saying that they're exceptions, dumbass. It isn't "100% contrary evidence" if literally every other forme doesn't increase BSTs Except those two that do. And in the three generations that we've had formes at all, and in the 9 or so Pokemon that have even had formes, that's almost a fourth of them with stat boosts. You can't just ignore that from such a small sample size.
>Most formes don't increase BSTs, therefore formes generally don't increase BSTs. Every Mega Evolution does, therefore Mega Evolutions as a whole increase BSTs.How does that prove they're not formes then? If the Rotom formes exist, that just means they could all be formes in the same vein as Rotom, and all be "exceptions" to the "no forme can gain BST" rule that you've had to ignore 4 full years to claim.
>"A different kind of evolution">What is a misnomerJust because it's called something doesn't mean it can't be entirely something else. Cheesecake isn't a cake, it's a pie. Mega Evolution isn't an evolution, it's a forme.
Hell, how do you know by "a different kind of evolution" he didn't just mean "forme", because he didn't have the right word for it? That's as stable of a point as anything you're trying to point out.
>Generally can be changed outside of battle Darmanitan, Aegislash, Cherrim, Meloetta and Castform don't change forme out of battle ever.
>Generally can change back at will If you're referring to out of battle, you can just not give them the item. Like Giratina. If you're talking about after they mega evolve, only like four formes can change mid-battle. Giratina can't, Shaymin can't, Rotoms can't, Kyurems can't, Therians can't.
>Listed as such in Pokedex They're listed where every single other forme is.
They're not listed where every single other evolution is.
>You're a fucking idiot.Great argument.
You're still arguing about how they aren't formes, while providing zero support as to how they're evolution besides vague dialog.
