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Battle Maison

Mike 4227 0953 0470 Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:20:44 No.15153824 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15153902 >>15154453 >>15154902

Hey /vp/, I just cleared the Battle Maison a few times in singles. What should I spend my BP on first? Some of the TMs? Life Orb/Choice Items?

Weakness Policy and Assault Vest look great, has anyone tested them yet for competitive battling?

Red Ryu 0963-0284-1161

Red Ryu 0963-0284-1161 Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:23:22 No.15153888 Report

Quoted By: >>15153987 >>15154095

if u want to be competitive, get EV power items, then breed good IVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:23:49 No.15153902 Report

Quoted By: >>15153987

>>15153824
I'd start picking up Battle Items first, maybe a TM if you needed it though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:25:34 No.15153948 Report

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How many battles are there?

Mike 4227 0953 0470

Mike 4227 0953 0470 Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:26:40 No.15153987 Report

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>>15153888
>>15153902
Yeah I guess I'll grab them for Ditto breeding
and a TM or two. Maybe Roar or Volt Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:30:18 No.15154095 Report

Quoted By: >>15154179 >>15154219

>>15153888
>breeding with power items instead of Destiny Knot + Everstone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:31:29 No.15154126 Report

Quoted By: >>15154245 >>15154292

Assault vest Sylveon makes me moist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:33:25 No.15154179 Report

Quoted By: >>15154381

>>15154095
My friend does it. It actually ensures faster 5 IVs, when you can then just easily slap the Everstone into it and get the Pokemon you want.

I use the typical Everstone with Destiny Knot because fuck it if I run into a Shiny with a shitty Nature. Which is funny because my friend got a Shiny while breeding that indeed went to the trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:34:57 No.15154219 Report

Quoted By: >>15154266 >>15154288 >>15154294 >>15154461

>>15154095

>He doesn't realize competitive = Destiny Knot+ Power item.

5 IV's are only good for some Pokemon, many top tier Pokemon should always go for full 31 IVs.

That, and superio horde farming, from 0 to 494 EVs in 7 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:35:50 No.15154245 Report

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>>15154126
What the fuck does Slyveon want with Assault Vest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:36:38 No.15154266 Report

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>>15154219
Power items don't let you transfer 6 IVs though, the max is still only 5. This has been confirmed. The only difference is that the one stat the power item gives is guaranteed, and 4 are then chosen randomly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:37:03 No.15154277 Report

Quoted By: >>15154363

If you want more BP, do the battle facility in North Lumiose

There's kind of less bullshit and you continue even if you lose (you do 5 battles which get harder)

you get way more BP too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:37:18 No.15154288 Report

Quoted By: >>15154334

>>15154219
Because Skarmory really needs full Sp Atk. Name one mon that needs flawless stats.

Benson 1247-0122-1521

Benson 1247-0122-1521 Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:37:28 No.15154292 Report

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>>15154126
Sylveon can't wishpass or heal bell or baton pass with an assault vest, and it lisses lefties recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:37:39 No.15154294 Report

Quoted By: >>15154323

>>15154219
yeah i definitely need all the special attack i can get on my tyranitar

retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:38:37 No.15154323 Report

Quoted By: >>15154459

>>15154294
You are a double Retard. Tyranitar Can actually use the decent SpAtk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:39:02 No.15154334 Report

Quoted By: >>15154459

>>15154288
Any Mixed attacker. Mixed Salamence, Hasty Greninja, etc.

iMiDGiT 1907-9143-0972

iMiDGiT 1907-9143-0972 Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:40:08 No.15154363 Report

Quoted By: >>15154399 >>15154408

>>15154277
How much do you get, and how long are the battles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:40:42 No.15154381 Report

Quoted By: >>15154458

>>15154179
>It actually ensures faster 5 IVs
Except, mathematically, it doesn't. Unless you start with pokemon who only have 1 good IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:41:31 No.15154399 Report

Quoted By: >>15154432 >>15154542

>>15154363
I've only done one and it dragged on for so long. I hate farming BP in this game, at least B2/W2 had a bit of fun to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:41:53 No.15154408 Report

Quoted By: >>15154449 >>15154542

>>15154363
they're just as long as the Battle Maison battles, the BP you get depends on how well you do.

Losing 2/5 battles I still got 11 BP which is more than what the Maison would give you (3 BP)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:42:46 No.15154432 Report

Quoted By: >>15154490

>>15154399
Yeah man when is Battle Frontier gonna come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:42:57 No.15154439 Report

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Man the battle institute makes me mad, but all that BP at the end...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:43:19 No.15154449 Report

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>>15154408
You mean Institute?

Institute is the way to go. I'm pissed they didn't let you farm at the High Roller. Fuck that palce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:43:38 No.15154453 Report

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>>15153824
Assult armour increase SP def by 50%

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:43:44 No.15154458 Report

Quoted By: >>15154502

>>15154381
How come it doesn't, then? Mathematically speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:43:45 No.15154459 Report

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>>15154334
>>15154323
That really doesn't change the fact that Power Items + Destiny Knot only still guarantees 5 IVs, so you're still going to be grinding for ages trying to get a perfect one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:43:51 No.15154461 Report

Quoted By: >>15154550

>>15154219
> He doesnt realize that power item negates the destiny know. They are not stackable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:45:09 No.15154490 Report

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>>15154432
Really hoping the Frontier comes back in the sequel... Maison's good enough for BP, but I miss the crazy battle formats of each facility in the frontier.

And most of all, I MISS THE RENTAL BATTLES! WHERE ARE THE RENTAL BATTLES!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:45:37 No.15154502 Report

Quoted By: >>15154529 >>15154655

>>15154458
Because I love doing math for other people for free over the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:46:51 No.15154529 Report

Quoted By: >>15154568

>>15154502
Your math isn't worth shit anyways, because it's faulty. Destiny knots and power shit don't stack, so there's no way in hell it's better than knot + everstone.

iMiDGiT 1907-9143-0972

iMiDGiT 1907-9143-0972 Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:47:30 No.15154542 Report

Quoted By: >>15154864

>>15154399
>>15154408
Going to attemp it now. Single Battle. I wonder if Double give smore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:48:03 No.15154550 Report

Quoted By: >>15154665 >>15154706

>>15154461
It doesn't negate. It just guarantees one of the random 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:48:51 No.15154568 Report

Quoted By: >>15154655

>>15154529
My models can take that into account, but assuming the opposite, Destiny Knot + Everstone wins anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:52:27 No.15154655 Report

Quoted By: >>15154889

>>15154502
>>15154568
Okay, then. This is what I've been thinking.

At the moment, I have two 4 IVs Dratinis I want to breed to get my 5 IVs one. They both have in common 3 perfect stats, meaning I'll get those 3 most of the time. So what I'll need is for the Destiny Knot to hit Special Attack as the one stat that it doesn't consider, then pick the the non-shared perfect stats from the parents that have it indeed perfect.

With a Power Item, I'd be ensuring that stat always gets picked no matter what. Whether the Destiny Knot picks it or not, it will always be that parent's, which added to the other almost certain 3 ones, it just leaves the last stat to be decided.

It's not the way I'm doing it myself, but I'm fairly certain it would work out this way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:52:57 No.15154665 Report

Quoted By: >>15154906

>>15154550
>It doesn't negate. It just guarantees one of the random 5
It negates it, It will guarantee 1 IV just like always

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 06:54:18 No.15154706 Report

Quoted By: >>15154906

>>15154550
They are not stackable you fucking mongoloid.

iMiDGiT 1907-9143-0972

iMiDGiT 1907-9143-0972 Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:01:44 No.15154864 Report

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>>15154542
6/7 stars for 13 BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:02:57 No.15154889 Report

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>>15154655
You are roughly four times more likely to get the right nature + IV combo by using Destiny Knot and Everstone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:03:30 No.15154902 Report

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>>15153824
>Steel Pokeball Run
That's pretty much the best thing I've seen all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:03:36 No.15154906 Report

Quoted By: >>15154952

>>15154706
>>15154665
I've been using power item+destiny knot fine
I get 5 of the random IVs and ALWAYS get 31 HP which the Power Item is on
I never said you get 5 random + 1 guaranteed
It's 4 random + 1 guaranteed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:06:48 No.15154952 Report

Quoted By: >>15154972

>>15154906
And why do you hate your pokemon's nature so much you lying faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:07:51 No.15154972 Report

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>>15154952
Nature is irrelevant to what I just said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 07:17:03 No.15155127 Report

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What would you guys say are some good pokemon for the maison/institute? Preferably something that counters their crit/evasion hax. I was thinking something fast and things with no guard or moves like aura sphere. Because every one of their pokemon carries bright powder and if there's any chance at all that you can miss, you will.

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