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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:27:43 No.15156284 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15156357 >>15156431 >>15156606 >>15156681 >>15156702 >>15156835 >>15156840

What am I supposed to do?

I'm finding it completely and utterly impossible to even get through 20 battles in regular singles. I cannot for the life of me get to the point of fighting the Chatelaine and unlocking super singles.

I've tried this probably a dozen times now, each time with varying strategies. I've even brought in EV trained mons, switched up typing, all kinds of strategies.

I cannot fucking clear this thing. I keep encountering Sawsbucks and Whimsicotts that just fuck my shit right up.

I'm kind of at my wit's end here. What the fuck should I do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:32:30 No.15156357 Report

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>>15156284
Mega
Kangaskhan

Power Up Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:32:36 No.15156361 Report

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I got through it with my then in-game team of Chestnaught Aegislash and Sylveon. for super singles I swapped out Chestnaught for Mega Kanga and now consistently get to the 30s before I lose

there's a suggested setup here too: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13MvLYLFQq4YcOyMC49DWcOgqij1thEC_sDUKJ4I2Mk4/preview?pli=1&sle=true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:32:49 No.15156367 Report

Quoted By: >>15156758

I've heard Fake Out/Return/Power-up Punch/Earthquake Mega Kangaskhan is a rape train in singles Maison. Sounds like you want priority to stop the whimsicotts though. Maybe Gale Wings/Brave Bird Talonflame in the back?

I've only done doubles so far, but I can agree it's much harder than the Battle Subway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:33:28 No.15156377 Report

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Please help me, /vp/...

My last run I was using a Greninja, Gardevoir, and Hawlucha.

I'm thinking of trying with Talonflame instead of Hawlucha, because the Whimsicott Moonblasted my ass to hell and back. I also probably should EV train Hawlucha in attack since I got pretty close to KOing Whimsicott with Aerial Ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:33:39 No.15156382 Report

Quoted By: >>15156441

Not even the non-Super one? I got through the regular courses pretty easily.

Your team probably don't have enough coverage/resistance/sheer power? I mean, I managed to force my way through the singles with a mono-Dragon team even though they end up spewing Fairies every battle for the last five or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:34:34 No.15156394 Report

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I've gotten to 31 with Life Orb Scizor, Mega Gengar and bulky Snorlax.

I do want a new team, because I'm getting real sick of Fire types fucking up my shit and I only have Rock Slide and Thunderbolt to deal with the super champ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:36:31 No.15156431 Report

Quoted By: >>15156456

>>15156284

Shit is so easy, I got to match 15 then fell asleep because all I was doing was spamming bug buzz/hurricane on my vivillon, my battery died when I was sleeping so now I gotta do it again...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:37:11 No.15156441 Report

Quoted By: >>15156559

>>15156382

I tried using my Reuniclus with maxed Sp. Atk but it ended up showing too many vulnerabilities. Also the speed was a concern, I should consider employing some Trick Room shenanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:38:28 No.15156456 Report

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>>15156431

Well, I find occasionally I'll encounter somewhat of a wall at 13/14 and it _seems_ to become slightly easier after that (probably coincidental). Then around 17 or 18 I'm just wiped by a pokemon with fierce speed or that's probably choice banded or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:39:28 No.15156473 Report

Quoted By: >>15156503 >>15156555 >>15156685

mega kanga
truant entrainment durant
hone claws and protect dugtrio

unbeatable team

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:41:21 No.15156503 Report

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>>15156473

Yeah, I see the google docs FAQ the other anon graciously provided includes those.

I might try that. I can't believe I'm having such a hard time on regular old normal singles for god's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:45:21 No.15156555 Report

Quoted By: >>15156582

>>15156473

Now wait a minute, Truant is Durant's hidden ability. How can that be obtained in X/Y?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:45:28 No.15156559 Report

Quoted By: >>15156578

>>15156441
You don't need much for Trick Room. Just Trick Room. I ran a TR set for mine actually just for the pre E4 runthrough and it works so well. I ran.

Trick Room
Psyshock
Shadow Ball
Recover

You can probably swap Recover for more coverage. He works well. If you can swap him up against a Sp.Attacker he can setup fairly easy and start sweeping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:46:29 No.15156578 Report

Quoted By: >>15156925

>>15156559

Why Psyshock instead of Psychic? Any particular reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:46:45 No.15156582 Report

Quoted By: >>15156758

>>15156555
They're a horde encounter between Anistar and the waterfall/train station town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:48:03 No.15156606 Report

Quoted By: >>15156664

>>15156284
>regular singles

everything is stage 1 evos

what the fuck is your problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:50:56 No.15156657 Report

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I've been winning by leading with a Gale Wings Talonflame with no held item and acrobatics (able to sweep about 70% of matches on its own). If he gets taken down, I have an Adamant Garchomp with EdgeQuake and Adamant Multiscale Dragonite with Dragon Dance and Outrage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:51:33 No.15156664 Report

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>>15156606

Fuck you. Not the last few matches. Did you not read my post? Sawsbucks and Whimsicotts murder me.

3308-4672-6647 - Lucas

3308-4672-6647 - Lucas Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:51:48 No.15156672 Report

Quoted By: >>15156685

What is the best method for BP farming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:52:07 No.15156681 Report

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>>15156284
get gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:52:29 No.15156685 Report

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>>15156672
>What is the best method for BP farming?
Did you even read the thread? See: >>15156473

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:53:31 No.15156702 Report

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>>15156284
>I can't sit and do all twenty battles in one go
>Working slowly I finally make it to the final match
>Powered my way through with M-Mawile, Aegislash, and Pangoro
>M-Mawile usually sweeping the teams
>I take out the Chatelaines first pokemon
>M-Mawile took one special hit, very close to yellow
>Next pokemon is Wigglytuff
>Pffft, Normal/Fairy, M-Mawile resists any stab, might as well just go for the Play Rough instead of Sucker Punch
>My Hubris
>Shit Nigger What are you doing.png
>etc.
>Wigglytuff uses Dazzling Gleam
>M-Mawile Fainted
>My face is one of disgust
>Aegislash goes in
>Swords Dance
>Wigglytuff uses Dazzling Gleam
>Crit
>Aegislash Fainted
>mfw I lose the battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:54:15 No.15156715 Report

Quoted By: >>15156758

I just ran Blastoise, raichu and Talonflame.
Surf/ice beam and thunderbolt/grass knot and acrobatics/steel wing.
I only had trouble on the last match which came down to 1v1 but I outsped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:56:19 No.15156758 Report

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>>15156715
>>15156367

I'm tempted to try Talonflame. I'd been training one early on in the game but I figured it would be relegated to the status of a much worse Charizard due to its typing. Evidently not.

>>15156582

All right, thanks. Serebii says hidden abilities are more common in hordes so I guess that's my best bet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:58:45 No.15156822 Report

Quoted By: >>15156837 >>15156875

I ran Archeops, Jolteon, and Greninja

They covered each other's weaknesses quite well and Archeops was able to sweep basically every team ohko'ing almost every poke.

You really just need someone up front that can go first and ohko everything, because if they cannot act, then they cannot RNG bullshit win.
Except for that quick claw rhydon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:59:23 No.15156835 Report

Quoted By: >>15156920 >>15156935

>>15156284
Maximum kek OP. I haven't tried the Super Singles yet since I'm currently EV training my competitive team but I swept the 20 first trainers of Regular Singles with my in-game team where only one Pokemon has optimal nature and none have optimal EVs and the items they're holding are something like Charcoal and other casual stuff. You'll mostly just encounter NFE shit there. I used Delphox as my lead and it got KO'd only once during those 20 matches. You must really suck at the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:59:33 No.15156837 Report

Quoted By: >>15156932 >>15156969

>>15156822
What do you run on your Jolteon? My HP is Dark, so I am only limited to Electric, Dark, and Ghost (Shadow Ball) moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 08:59:36 No.15156840 Report

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>>15156284

A Haxorus with Swords dance/poison jab/earthquake/outrage can almost solo the whole regular singles, along with the first 10 matches of super singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:01:07 No.15156875 Report

Quoted By: >>15156969

>>15156822
>You really just need someone up front that can go first and ohko everything

Greninja with Surf handled most of normal singles quite well. Also Reuniclus with Psychic.

But not everything. And when opponents brought out the big guns with Double Edge or Moonblast or Solarbeam I was done for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:02:29 No.15156907 Report

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Mega Blaziken

Swords Dance
Hi Jump Kick
Protect
Flare Blitz

Rotom-W + Leftovers

Volt Switch/Thunderbolt
Hydro Pump
Will-O-Wisp
Hidden Power Ice

Drapion + Black Sludge

Swords Dance
Crunch
Earthquake
Poison Jab

I got to 41 and I lost because my HJK missed twice. Mega pokemons are OP, use that to grind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:03:01 No.15156920 Report

Quoted By: >>15156965

>>15156835

What was your full team (the 3 you entered)?

If Delphox has very high defenses then I understand. I still can't process how you didn't get hung up by sleep or outspeeding or an enemy buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:03:13 No.15156925 Report

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>>15156578
Psyshock hits the opponent's Defense instead of Special Defense although the move itself is a special move so this way you aren't completely helpless against special walls. Every Psychic type 'Mon in OU and Uber tiers usually carry Psyshock (or Psystrike in Mewtwo's case) so they wouldn't be walled by Chansey / Kyogre / etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:05:07 No.15156932 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:05:13 No.15156935 Report

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>>15156835
>You'll mostly just encounter NFE shit there.

Why can't you read? I stated very explicitly that it wasn't NFEs that murdered my team. It's always a very particular arrangement around the 17th or 18th match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:06:10 No.15156965 Report

Quoted By: >>15156991

>>15156920
I can't even remember my full team since Delphox solo'd 99% of the trainers but I'm quite positive I had Heliolisk with me and the last one was either Tyrantrum or Aegislash although I didn't have to use it. Delphox had nearly max EVs in Speed and Sp Attack and it outsped and OHKO'd just about everyone. Moveset was Flamethrower, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Calm Mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:06:13 No.15156969 Report

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>>15156837
Mine has HP fire, but I rarely if ever used it, since the nerf means it's only really better than thunderbolt, let alone thunder, when it's super effective and you're not very effective.
The rest is the same.

>>15156875
Greninja, while having great coverage with STABs is not a giant powerhouse.
103 SpA is nice, but having someone pulling off 120+ att/spa STAB 100+ natural BP moves is what is really called for here as a lead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:07:17 No.15156991 Report

Quoted By: >>15157161

>>15156965
>none have optimal EVs
>Delphox had nearly max EVs in Speed and Sp Attack and it outsped and OHKO'd just about everyone

So why are you deliberately being retarded here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:08:18 No.15157021 Report

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>5043
>being this bad

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 09:15:19 No.15157161 Report

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>>15156991
>Implying nearly max = optimal

Do you even competitive? Optimal EVs would be 252 SAtk, 252 Spe and 4 HP. Although my Delphox has most of his EVs in Speed and Sp Attack he still has some EVs scattered around the others stats because I didn't bother fully EV training my team just for a normal playthrough. I'm leaving that for my competitive team.

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