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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 21:58:48 No.15177547 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15178456 >>15179255 >>15180442 >>15180556

Introducing the ultimate counter to Mega-Blaziken

Flash-fire Chandelure
-Substitute
-Shadow Ball
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball/Calm Mind

You can swap laughing straight into any variant of Mega-Blaziken that doesn't carry thunderpunch and set up a substitute in his face.

Only question is, is it worth training one of these just to ruin Blaziken's day?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:17:17 No.15178298 Report

Quoted By: >>15178714 >>15178746 >>15179292

I wish I had a Milotic

Eric - 3668 8673 7992 [Dark: Cacturne, Mightyena, Inkay]

Eric - 3668 8673 7992 [Dark: Cacturne, Mightyena, Inkay] Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:21:31 No.15178456 Report

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>>15177547

Anything is worth ruining the most popular poke at the moment.

Though most people dont know how to use blaziken and he turns out to not be a problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:22:43 No.15178512 Report

Quoted By: >>15179698

>Blaziken used Brave Bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:24:25 No.15178599 Report

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Gale Wings Adamant Talonflame >

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:27:03 No.15178714 Report

Quoted By: >>15179739

>>15178298
Hows the weather in Australia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:27:51 No.15178746 Report

Quoted By: >>15179292

>>15178298
they're doing it to show off since MIlotic isn't available

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:31:52 No.15178914 Report

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>tfw I use a Sash'd Chandelure
>tfw I switch freely into Blaziken and make it lose 50% of its health thanks to HJK recoil
>tfw Blaziken runs Flare / HJK / Protect / SD and it's completely helpless
>tfw those Blaziken that run coverage moves get KO'd by Psychic next turn after Sash prevented OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:39:11 No.15179255 Report

Quoted By: >>15180362

>>15177547
I'm training one solely because it fits well on my team. Would this set be any good?

Chandelure@Life Orb
252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 SpD
- Shadow Ball
- Fire Blast
- Will o' Wisp
- Pain Split

I'd like to be able to have some staying power, hence Pain Split, and Wo'W helps counter Mawile and a bunch of other Pokes that give me trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:40:00 No.15179292 Report

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>>15178298
>>15178746
M-Milotic...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:48:53 No.15179698 Report

Quoted By: >>15179913

>>15178512
Why would anyone run a Blaziken over Talonflame if they're going to run brave bird?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:49:44 No.15179739 Report

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>>15178714
On fire.

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:53:16 No.15179913 Report

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>>15179698
It hits a lot harder than Talonflame to start.

Personally, I'd much rather run an Azumarill to counter Blaziken. It can tank Blaziken's STABs and OHKO with Aqua Jet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:55:20 No.15180024 Report

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And then you realized that Pokemon can use moves without STAB, your Chandelure dies and you are sad forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:56:43 No.15180087 Report

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Infiltrator or flash-fire, hmmmm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:59:33 No.15180201 Report

Quoted By: >>15180216

If you use trick on a mega evo will it steal its stone and force it to turn back?

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Fri 25 Oct 2013 22:59:59 No.15180216 Report

Quoted By: >>15180325

>>15180201
Mega stones can't be tricked or knocked off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:02:25 No.15180325 Report

Quoted By: >>15180411

>>15180216
Jesus that sucks, it can still work before they mega evolve though, right? I know it wouldn't do much good since evolving takes priority over everything but you could try and catch them on a switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:03:21 No.15180362 Report

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>>15179255
Anyone? I've never used Chandelure before and I'm wondering if I'll be missing out on too much without Sub or Energy Ball.

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:04:41 No.15180411 Report

Quoted By: >>15180652

>>15180325
Nope. They can't be removed in battle period.

Munter 4613 7531 7814 Phantump, Lampent, Dusclops

Munter 4613 7531 7814 Phantump, Lampent, Dusclops Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:05:22 No.15180442 Report

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>>15177547
i was already considering to have this guy on my team and now i will

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:06:44 No.15180508 Report

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whats a good nature for this guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:07:51 No.15180556 Report

Quoted By: >>15180885 >>15180956

>>15177547
252+ Atk Blaziken Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 183-216 (69.84 - 82.44%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Nearly a guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Blaziken Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 306-360 (116.79 - 137.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Hurrr what is a counter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:07:58 No.15180563 Report

Quoted By: >>15180675

I happen to have a Litwick with a Modest nature in my boxes. Might be perfect for this mega-chicken countering. Should I really 'care' about the IV's or will it just by itself be enough to counter mega-chicken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:10:12 No.15180652 Report

Quoted By: >>15180733 >>15180824

>>15180411
Well shit there goes the set I was gonna run.

Do megas that get a boost in speed get it the turn they evolve? Say I have a mon with base 120 and my opponent is 110. They mega evolve and get bumped up to 130. Do they go first?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:10:55 No.15180675 Report

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>>15180563
Could you live with yourself knowing that my Chandelure will always be objectively superior to yours? If yes, go ahead IVs aren't a huge deal outside of speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:12:23 No.15180733 Report

Quoted By: >>15180803

>>15180652
no they get the speed the turn after

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:14:02 No.15180803 Report

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>>15180733
Thanks

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:14:29 No.15180824 Report

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>>15180652
I believe they do, but turns are decided before Mega Evolution actually happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:16:02 No.15180885 Report

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>>15180556
OHKOs with shadow claw, lol

Kurtz 4983 4945 8078 [Psychic: Abra, Girafarig, Espurr]

Kurtz 4983 4945 8078 [Psychic: Abra, Girafarig, Espurr] Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:18:05 No.15180956 Report

Quoted By: >>15181359

>>15180556
This isn't for your super serious, thinking of every possible counter Smogon battles, brah. This is for all of those chucklefucks who lead mega blaziken to shut down morons who just use their precious fire chicken.

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw

Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:29:21 No.15181359 Report

Quoted By: >>15182284

>>15180956
He's just ensuring that the Pokemon does its job as a direct counter to another Pokemon. There's nothing wrong with doing exact damage calculations to ensure it. Don't be a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Oct 2013 23:51:17 No.15182284 Report

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>>15181359
>I'm allowed to talk shit because I have a ditto safari

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