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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:14:07 No.15190832 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15190916 >>15191030 >>15191116 >>15191132 >>15191461 >>15192836 >>15193543

If Water is weak to electric because water conducts electricity, how come Steel isn't weak to Electric for the same reasons?

Why isn't Fire weak to flying when wind can blow fires out?

Things that should be but aren't general

Ian 0018-1300-6519 (Slugma, Ponyta, Braixen)

Ian 0018-1300-6519 (Slugma, Ponyta, Braixen) Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:16:08 No.15190916 Report

Quoted By: >>15190975

>>15190832
>when wind can blow fires out?

it's like you've never even heard of forest fires

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:17:01 No.15190959 Report

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If poison can kill anything, why isn't poison super effective on every type bar poison and steel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:17:27 No.15190975 Report

Quoted By:

>>15190916

then Flying can be weak to Fire instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:18:03 No.15191006 Report

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Except wind helps fires spread, and just because a Pokemon is flying doesn't mean its capable of creating strong winds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:18:45 No.15191030 Report

Quoted By: >>15191079 >>15191108

>>15190832
>put stealth rocks on the fucking ground
>fucking birds go onto the battle and lose 1/4 their hp for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:19:23 No.15191057 Report

Quoted By: >>15191119

with moves like Freeze Dry and Flying Press, Heat Wave should be retyped as a dual Flying and Fire type attack

Can you imagine that on Zapdos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:19:53 No.15191079 Report

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>>15191030
>The user lays a trap of levitating stones around the foe. The trap hurts foes that switch into battle.
>levitating stones
>levitating

They float.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:20:26 No.15191108 Report

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>>15191030

"sharp stones are floating around your party!"

floating being the operative word

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:20:38 No.15191116 Report

Quoted By:

>>15190832
>wind can blow fires out

quick everyone laugh at him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:20:43 No.15191119 Report

Quoted By: >>15191154 >>15193585

>>15191057
Muddy water should be water/ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:21:02 No.15191132 Report

Quoted By: >>15191202

>>15190832

Have you heard of ground wiring before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:21:11 No.15191138 Report

Quoted By: >>15191202 >>15193645

Why is ice weak to steel and rock?

Why does water resist ice, but not the other way around?

Why is this typing so shit defensively?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:21:32 No.15191154 Report

Quoted By: >>15194320

>>15191119

good idea

any other moves that should work this way?

Signal Beam can be Bug/Electric

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:22:34 No.15191202 Report

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>>15191132

doesn't ground wiring exist specifically to conduct electricity into the ground?

>>15191138

steel and ice smash ice to bits

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:24:57 No.15191301 Report

Quoted By: >>15191385 >>15191586 >>15192421

>Zapdos

>special oriented flying type

>can't learn air slash for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:26:48 No.15191385 Report

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>>15191301
>Best special flying move is only 100BP and the signature move of a Legendary
why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:28:30 No.15191461 Report

Quoted By: >>15191522

>>15190832
>how come Steel isn't weak to Electric for the same reasons
Because they (for the most part) don't have anything for the electricity to actually fry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:28:32 No.15191464 Report

Quoted By: >>15191574 >>15191613 >>15194361

Flying isn't a Wind type, it's a "the Pokemon with this type is a bird or can fly" type.

There is no Wind type in Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:29:51 No.15191522 Report

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>>15191461

and the water types do also, by that same merit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:31:13 No.15191574 Report

Quoted By: >>15194361

>>15191464

but like 80 % of flying type attacks involve wind or air somehow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:31:32 No.15191586 Report

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>>15191301
>moltres and articuno get hurricane
>zapdos doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:32:05 No.15191613 Report

Quoted By: >>15194361

>>15191464
I've always thought it should be Wind type instead of Flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:32:09 No.15191619 Report

Quoted By: >>15191662

Flying =/= wind.
You can fry a fish, but a being made out of pure metal won't feel the electricity any harder than a Normal type or Fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:32:53 No.15191662 Report

Quoted By: >>15191767

>>15191619

by that logic water should be weak to fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:35:17 No.15191767 Report

Quoted By: >>15192058

>>15191662
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:35:49 No.15191789 Report

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>Gen V introduces Tyrantrum
>Give it ability that powers up biting attacks
>Introduce absolutely no rock-type or Dragon-type biting moves

come on, Dragon Tooth would be pretty awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:41:56 No.15192058 Report

Quoted By: >>15193701

>>15191767

you can fry a fish with fire as easily as you can with electricity

Franny 5043-2360-2567

Franny 5043-2360-2567 Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:50:13 No.15192421 Report

Quoted By: >>15192530

>>15191301
Zapdos really looks shit doesnt it.
Like big bird stuck his wet dick into a socket.

Moltres looks pretty crap too, Articuno is nice I suppose, shame about his typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:52:41 No.15192530 Report

Quoted By: >>15192805

>>15192421

I hope the theory about them having event exclusive mega forms pans out. Maybe you find them in the other power plants and they get opened by a key item like in Platinum

wonder what re-typings they should get, if any

Franny 5043-2360-2567

Franny 5043-2360-2567 Sat 26 Oct 2013 03:59:20 No.15192805 Report

Quoted By:

>>15192530
electric/dark
Fire/dragon
Ice/fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:00:17 No.15192836 Report

Quoted By:

>>15190832
Flying is not wind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:04:07 No.15192986 Report

Quoted By: >>15193130

>Farfetch'd
>Dodrio

"flying type"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:07:12 No.15193130 Report

Quoted By: >>15193386

>>15192986

Farfetch'd is a duck
Dodrio is a roadrunner

those can all fly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:09:26 No.15193236 Report

Quoted By: >>15193272 >>15193452

>Farfetch'd - flying type, ergo weak to grass
>carries a leek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:10:26 No.15193272 Report

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>>15193236

>flying type
>weak to grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:12:47 No.15193368 Report

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>Ice doesn't resist or immune Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:13:16 No.15193386 Report

Quoted By: >>15193754

>>15193130
>Dodrio is a roadrunner
try Emu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:14:11 No.15193428 Report

Quoted By: >>15194058

Ice melts, becomes water.
Stops fire.
Fire heats up.
Water sky high.
Ice freezes water.
The end

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:14:55 No.15193452 Report

Quoted By:

>>15193236
>flying type, ergo weak to grass
W-what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:16:12 No.15193510 Report

Quoted By: >>15194040

Steel conducts electricity, but its also grounded.

Water, as a fluid, lets water pass through it very easily.

Now someone please explain why Ghost is super effective against Ghost.

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:17:04 No.15193543 Report

Quoted By: >>15193659

>>15190832
Fanning a fire makes it larger. And no, that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that fire should be super effective on flying.
Though it would be pretty cool if there were an ability for a fire pokemon that gave it boosts when hit by a flying move

Most water pokemon aren't made of water, but most steel pokemon seem a lot less organic, water pokemon suffer from cardiac arrest, steel pokemon not so much.

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:18:09 No.15193585 Report

Quoted By:

>>15191119
Muddy water should not suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:19:40 No.15193645 Report

Quoted By:

>>15191138

When I was a kid I thought water would be super effective to ice because if you put water in ice it melts faster

I also thought ice would freeze water types because... cold temperatures freeze water

I lost so many battles in pokemon stadium as a kid due to my autism

Will 1693-1123-4742 (Slugma Pansear Braixen)

Will 1693-1123-4742 (Slugma Pansear Braixen) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:20:06 No.15193659 Report

Quoted By: >>15193814

>>15193543
Yo can I add you?
Been looking for a Phanpy...

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:20:54 No.15193701 Report

Quoted By: >>15193805

>>15192058
Well in that case, why not make fire super effective to everything except rock, and ground?

Or maybe it could be he meant fry as in electrocute to death and not cook. Probably not though, just make fire super effective to everything.

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:22:13 No.15193754 Report

Quoted By: >>15193906

>>15193386
How about we not worry about species for a second, and just take a look at the fact that it doesn't have fucking wings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:23:34 No.15193805 Report

Quoted By: >>15193886

>>15193701
well rocks and the ground are just super cooled magma so fire>everything

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:23:45 No.15193814 Report

Quoted By: >>15194063

>>15193659
Sure, I could use a Braixen I suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:24:09 No.15193822 Report

Quoted By: >>15194144 >>15195385

There is no fucking logic. The types are so vague. What defines a Fighting type or a Normal type? Fire boils water, lightning sets trees on fire, ice freezes water.

Shit doesn't correlate.

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)

Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:25:43 No.15193886 Report

Quoted By:

>>15193805
Well that does it. Game Freak, fix your game to make sense. Fire super effective everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:26:05 No.15193906 Report

Quoted By:

>>15193754
Maybe it can just jump really high

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:26:04 No.15193907 Report

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Steel should have been strong against dragon because of the whole knight vs dragon thing. Hell they even have similar ideas in Japan where Yamata no Orochi is slain by Susanoo's Kusanagi sword.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:29:28 No.15194040 Report

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>>15193510
only ghosts can ghost

I've always kind of wished psychic and ghost were super effective against eachother, but that wouldn't be fair to gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:30:00 No.15194058 Report

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>>15193428
>Ice freezes water

What? That doesn't make any sense. The cold surrounding the water freezes it, which is why freeze dry is SE vs water. When ice comes in contact with water in an environment that isn't as cold as the ice, the ice WILL melt.

Will 1693-1123-4742 (Slugma Pansear Braixen)

Will 1693-1123-4742 (Slugma Pansear Braixen) Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:30:07 No.15194063 Report

Quoted By:

>>15193814
Thanks!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:32:00 No.15194144 Report

Quoted By: >>15195247

>>15193822
>Fire boils water

Where the hell did you people go to school? Fire doesn't boil water, heat causes water to boil. For this reason heat wave COULD be neutral vs water types. But all other fire moves make sense vs water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:32:43 No.15194175 Report

Quoted By: >>15194468

>fire strong against steel
>fighting strong against steel
>ground strong against steel

I mean, I know it needs weaknesses, but none of them make a whole lot of sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:36:36 No.15194320 Report

Quoted By:

>>15191154
Aurora Beam Ice/Psychic
Mystical Fire Fire/Psychic
Electroweb Electric/Bug
Magical Leaf Grass/Fairy
Leaf Storm or Tornado Grass/Flying
Ominous Wind Ghost/Flying
Steel Wing Steel/Flying
Hurricane Flying/Water
Sludge Wave Poison/Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:37:41 No.15194361 Report

Quoted By:

>>15191464
>>15191574
>>15191613

It should be Air type. This incorporates both the flying in the air aspect and the wind-based aspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:39:18 No.15194422 Report

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>fighting strong against rock and steel, the hardests substances
>logically they should be super effective against fucking everything

fighting is just a fucking stupid type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:40:17 No.15194468 Report

Quoted By:

>>15194175
>Smelting
>Lel superpowered strength bends gurders
>Dude this is Japan making these games, their steel buildings get fucked by earthquakes all the time. If this was America, Steel would be weak to Flying instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 04:54:57 No.15195028 Report

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Honestly electric should be SE against ground and NVE against flying. If something is grounded, that means it has low potential and electricity flows into it.

If you try to hit something that's in the air with electricity, you just get an open circuit.

Oh, and ice should should be SE against fire because you put out fire by lowering the combustible material's temperature.

Nine to Five Hero !xPOSER9PtU

Nine to Five Hero !xPOSER9PtU Sat 26 Oct 2013 05:00:56 No.15195247 Report

Quoted By: >>15195612

>>15194144
He's thinking of stoves, not sticking your lighter in some water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 05:04:38 No.15195385 Report

Quoted By:

>>15193822
Water is highly resistant to changes in temperature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2013 05:10:43 No.15195612 Report

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>>15195247
Exactly, its still the heat not the fire

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