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>>15282485 you can't have more than one mega in a team
Anonymous
Just wait for the Third game
Aki 2852-7111-1032 Fire (Pansear, Vulpix, Charmeleon)
Aki 2852-7111-1032 Fire (Pansear, Vulpix, Charmeleon) Sun 27 Oct 2013 23:44:07 No. 15282558 Report >>15282485 Dude, Pokebank hasn't been released yet and we are limited, just fucking wait.
Anonymous
As if Scizor, Ferrothorn, and skill-less Rain teams weren't the only things seen in 5th gen standard.
Anonymous
>No mention of Xerneas, Yveltal or Zygarde >No Mewtwo Y >No Lucario >Gyarados
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>Popular pokemon are used a lot
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>>15282485 The metagame is still in its infancy. Things will change up once people start using things and experimenting. Gen V had the same problem with Haxorus and Hydreigon everywhere at first. Now they're hardly threats. Give it some time, and people will find other Pokemon to use other than the obviously good ones.
Anonymous
Im playing offline on the battle maison and having fun with mine Muk.
Anonymous
It's new and everyone wants to use the new and pretty megas.
Anonymous
>mfw Megas being specific to such a relatively small group of mons means the metagame is going to be more centralized than ever
Anonymous
>surprised that people want to play with the new mechanics
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It was always over centralised online even without shit like megas OP.
Anonymous
>>15282772 They'll release more megas, r-right?
Vyro: 3523-2158-1800
Speaking of battles, who is a good third member for my Hydreigon/Aegislash teamcomp? Those two go perfectly together but I need a third man.
Sean - 0061-0522-0780 [Grass: Ivysaur, Oddish, Gogoat]
Sean - 0061-0522-0780 [Grass: Ivysaur, Oddish, Gogoat] Sun 27 Oct 2013 23:53:25 No. 15282994 Report >>15282485 >new pokemon are added >get upset when people use new pokemon during the first month of the games release Oh man, we have a genius over here
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>people mad charizard has reclaimed its thrown as the king of pokemon >anyone that hates on it will simply be disregarded as trolls now >haters from last gen that made fun of charizard are now using one
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>>15282945 Mega Kangaskhan
Anonymous
>>15282748 >>15282810 >>15282994 That's why we see tons of mega Aggron, Manectric, Abomasnow and Venusaur, right?
Face it, it's not mechanics. The metagame completely revolves around a select few megas and it's stale as fuck.
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>>15282730 >Trying to Out-hax the Hax tower. You're playing a dangerous game, laddie.
Anonymous
>>15283066 >thrown If you are under the age of 18, or it is illegal for you to view the materials contained on this website, discontinue browsing immediately.
Sean - 0061-0522-0780 [Grass: Ivysaur, Oddish, Gogoat]
Sean - 0061-0522-0780 [Grass: Ivysaur, Oddish, Gogoat] Sun 27 Oct 2013 23:58:52 No. 15283220 Report Quoted By:
>>15283122 If those teams are as prevalent as you say they are then you're at an advantage because you already have counters available. Or are you too stupid to even do that?
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OP you're free to get rekt by my M-Mawile anytime
Anonymous
>realease all kind of megas with great stats boosts >shit on garchomp
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>>15283122 >the gameplay revolves around a few select megas It's almost as if... it was predictable... and... stay with me here... you could... I'll talk slow, you're kinda dumb... you could predict and... Oh God, wait for it... COUNTER THEM?????
>BLUH THEY HAVE NO COUNTERS get gud
Anonymous
>>15283122 >mega Aggron, Manectric, Abomasnow and Venusaur Because no one likes those Pokemon and they're shit when compared to the ones OP mentioned.
Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Neegra 2406-6346-4023; Ground (Phanpy, Camerupt, Diggersby) Mon 28 Oct 2013 00:01:07 No. 15283315 Report >>15282649 >hardly threats >both are still OU Might want to rephrase that to "They aren't the BIGGEST threats"
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>>15283122 HELP HELP MY ENEMIES ARE TOO PREDICTABLE AND ARE PSYCHING ME OUT BY DARING ME TO COUNTER THEM
also
>dissing Mega Venusaur Thick Fat owns
Anonymous
>mfw I use Mega Banette and no one knows what to do
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I've literally come across one Protean Greninja and one Aegislash in all the battles I've done. None of the rest.
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>>15283315 >>both are still OU not for long Anonymous
>>15282485 >mega blaziken >mega gyarados >implying they are good Anonymous
is sweeping with tyranitar/excadrill still good.
Anonymous
Gen I was way worse>Chansey >Rhydon/Golem >Tauros >Alakazam >Dragonite >Snorlax
Anonymous
>>15283374 mega blaziken is basically cancer incarnate
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>>15283422 Hey
Sometimes you saw Zapdos, or Exeggutor
Anonymous
>That feel when no one I've run into online knows what to do against my Klefki
Anonymous
This is my team.>Arcanine >Togekiss >Hitmonlee >Toxicroak >Talonflame >Gengar
Anonymous
>>15282485 >naming your AEGISLASH bankai But OP you're just as cancerous
Anonymous
>>15282908 Maybe. Remember Blazikenite is nowhere to be found in the game, so maybe other pokemon will be distributed via events as well, with their respective mega-stone.
Jeremy 0705 2237 8376 Marowak Sandshrew Diggersby
Jeremy 0705 2237 8376 Marowak Sandshrew Diggersby Mon 28 Oct 2013 00:06:22 No. 15283513 Report Quoted By:
The game has only been out 3 weeks. Give it time.
Anonymous
>>15283432 Speed Boost Life Orb Blaziken is stronger.
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>>15283336 I use Mega Banette too
>Priority Destiny Bond Sorry about your attempted 'sweep' Mega Blaziken
Anonymous
Dude, the metagame is in its infant stages. we don't know what will change, we don't know if there's a new good combination lurking out there no-one has thought of yet. Peopl are just picking Pokemon they KNOW 100% for sure are powerhouses.
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>>15283422 >not 6 alakazams Anonymous
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Actualy I don't see megablaziken a lot, but I see shit like ferrothorn and that keychain poke a lot (fucking prankster user is a bastard)
Anonymous
>>15283482 I see alot of Talonflame faggots online, you must be one of them.
You've been haved at.
have fun spamming brave bird like the competitive saavy player you are
Anonymous
>>15283484 It is that youtubeing nigger.
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>>15283422 >no starmie >no exeggutor Anonymous
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>the game has been out for two weeks >complaining about the nonexistant meta
Anonymous
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I trained a megablaziken counter team for 3 days and haven't seen a single mega blaziken online since.
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>Not playing Ratings special
Anonymous
>>15282485 I use a shuckle. I lose most of the times but inducing some people to ragequit with it is priceless.
Anonymous
>>15283482 It's great.
>>15283589 Tools, opportunity, etc.
I'm running BullyJet Azumarill,
I used Azumarill before it was cool. Anonymous
>>15283477 What set are you using on Klefki? I thought about getting one with Foul Play/Thunderwave/Dualscreens
Anonymous
>>15283271 Mega Chomp is great if you set up a sticky web first.
Sticky Web makes most Megas fuking unstoppable.
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>>15283660 What's the moveset you're supposed to use with that?
I remember Rollout being one.
Anonymous
>wanted to use the honedge line ever since it was revealed >game comes out, get my aegislash >shit yes this pokemon is awesome >turn out everyone is using it Plus it's a great counter to a lot of braindead sweepers such as mega chicken and brave bird bird
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>>15282485 You forgot Mega Mawile
Anonymous
>>15283660 >30 HP >No Recovery Who the fuck would rage quit to a Shuckle? Someone using a team of Vivillons?
Anonymous
Can someone tell me what build people are running on Aegislash to make him so good?
Anonymous
>>15283750 >Talonflame >Sweeper What the fuck are you smoking?
Anonymous
>>15283711 This. Sticky Web makes my Megazard-X a near unstoppable monster.
Anonymous
>>15282730 Battle Maison is so fucked that silly sets like yours work better than Perfect EV trained Adamant Gale Wing Talonflames, Mega-Gengar and Aegislash.
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I haven't seen many mega-Blazikens. Presumably because everybody and their mother (myself included) packs an Azumarill.
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>>15283777 Gyro ball with Special attack IVs.
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>>15283708 That is the exact set I'm running now.
I've also ran Sub/Swagger/TWave/Foul Play and Spikes/Toxic/TWave/Foul Play.
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>>15283797 >implying that a choice banded adamant Talonflame with EVs in attack and HP can't single handedly wipe a team that's not prepared for it Anonymous
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>>15283708 >Fight Jap with Reflect/Eject Button Klefki >Pretty Clever >It's other moves are Thunder Wave, Swagger and Foul Play >FFFFFFFFFFFFFF Anonymous
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>>15283797 >not OHKOing half your opponents team with based bird Anonymous
>>15283777 Shadow Sneak/Shadow Claw
King's Shield
Swords Dance
Iron Head/Sacred Swords
Pretty much everybody uses this one.
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>>15283526 But it's not mega.
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>>15283416 no since weather nerf.
Anonymous
>>15283824 Would Poison Heal + Toxic Orb Gliscor be a good BM mon?
I like the idea of no burn/sleep/frozen.
Anonymous
>>15283813 ........
Why the fuck aren't you running him with Dragon Dance?
He's one of the best mega with it on. Literally most teams you come across let you set it up, and if its something that is unstoppable after a setup like MMawile, you can just rape it first turn with Flare Blitz. The only thing that cripples you is klefki, which I seriously hope you bring contingency for.
Eric 0619 2977 0062 (Pikachu, Pachirisu, Luxio)
Eric 0619 2977 0062 (Pikachu, Pachirisu, Luxio) Mon 28 Oct 2013 00:19:04 No. 15283975 Report Quoted By:
>>15283297 I find it funny he even mentioned those in the first place
Anonymous
>>15283896 >Mind games the pokemon Anonymous
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>>15282549 another good reason to hate platinum
Anonymous
>>15283777 Nothing, just that the people coming up against it are idiots.
Every Aegislash ever has Swords Dance/King's Shield/Shadow Claw (or Sneak)/Iron Head. Every single one is predictable as shit, and nobody knows what to do.
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>>15282627 >Zygarde >Ever leaving BL Anonymous
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>>15283178 not everyone that makes an error in spelling or grammar is under 18
Anonymous
>>15283984 That ain't mind games, son. Real mind games is sucker punching with a frail ass moxie Honchkrow. That'll teach you how to predict.
Anonymous
>>15283984 Everybody I've seen so far Sword Dances first, then shields and then attacks.
Thank god Mega-Kangaskhan's Earthquake brutally rapes it.
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>>15284021 > have Mega Charizard-X out vs Aegislash > have to predict, is he going for the King's Shield, and can I safeley Dragon Dance? Or is he going to set up a Swords Dance, and do I Flare Blitz him? it's not about not knowing what to do, it's just that you have to predict correctly. if I DD and he SDs, it's over the next turn when he Shadow Sneaks, if I Flare Blitz his ass and he uses Kings Shield, then I lose -2 Atk, and he lives.
His mere pressence on the field provides a lot pf pressure.
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>>15284087 >>15284079 I was going against my friend, he knows my ass too well.
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>>15284087 When I run the Maison with it (Fuck you, it's good for the Maison), I Shield first if what I'm against looks physical.
That Attack debuff is ridiculously useful.
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>>15284087 >my face when I scrappy power up punch an aegislash in the face, then bury it with a mega earthquake Mega-Kanga is kind of OP, but I don't really mind. I'm happy that an overlooked OG mon is tearing shit up, plus parental bond seems like the ability Kanga always should have had.
Anonymous
>>15283537 This. We don't even know all the egg moves, do we?
Anonymous
>>15283422 >Golem was actually useful Anonymous
>>15284087 I love people like you. I call your MegaKhan, send out 'Slash, play your bluff and switch to Gyrados.
'Sup.
Anonymous
>>15284087 Sounds like somebody could easily fuck you over if they decided to open with a King's Shield
Fuck, if I have a version of protect, I always use that first in order to scout
Anonymous
Since Gengar has an effective move against Dragons, Fighting and Dark and isn't focus miss...
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>>15284294 >resistance to fucking normal >finally someone can stop jolteon and zapdos madness >explosion Anonymous
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>>15284336 Have to say I've entertained the idea of Choice Specs but I need to go get them first. Currently trying out Weakness Policy for laughs.
Anonymous
>>15283489 this. Also, didn't Masuda say that there were megas for each gen, yet we have nothing for gen 5?
Anonymous
>>15284329 EQ isn't a contact move.
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>>15284285 I know Icicle Crash Weavile exists, but as far as I'm aware that's the only egg move of any competitive value that's been discovered.
Anonymous
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>>15282614 >Enemy team preview loads >Blaziken >Blastoise >Lucario >Gardevoir >mfw Anonymous
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>>15283297 >>15283122 >Ignoring the devastation that is Mega Aggron >Ignoring Mega Venusaur and thick fat >Ignoring Mega Banette in general Anonymous
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>>15284459 I did not know he said that. There might be some event pokemon, such as blaziken.
J Tizzle 2723-9479-1063 [Mawile, Metang, Excadrill]
J Tizzle 2723-9479-1063 [Mawile, Metang, Excadrill] Mon 28 Oct 2013 00:37:58 No. 15284577 Report >Exploud has a 140 base STAB move and with no downsides and access to scrappy
Anonymous
>>15284459 >yet we have nothing for gen 5? Mega Vanilluxe
Guy 3153-3999-2973
>>15284509 perhaps you should look up things you are unsure of before you say them
Anonymous
>>15283896 how or when does agiesslash learn kings shield?
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>>15284577 I am, I should use choice specs with it.
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>>15283489 > January > Mega Swampert giveaway > April > Mega Sceptile giveaway > Pokemon Direct in may > Hoenn remakes announced. Not that I actually care that much for Gen3(I'd still buy it) but it would be a genius market strategy.
Anonymous
>>15284604 I wouldn't mind Mega Golurk
Anonymous
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Mgardevoir
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>>15284577 >scrappy >boomburst hits past substitute Anonymous
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>>15284618 EQ is a physical move that doesn't make contact. get fucked
Anonymous
>>15284681 what I want: mega Volcarona
what we'll get: mega Zoruark
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>>15284577 I've been using that on Noivern. Hell, I don't even need to use its STAB attacks.
Anonymous
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>>15284577 Because of low defenses, low speed, and ironically 90ish Special attack
So it's sill possible to wall him and get wrecked if the opponent is prepared or has Priority. Or A-Vest PursuitTar
Anonymous
People who use Legandaries In competitive, But still lose to a variety team don't deserve to own this game.
Anonymous
>>15284577 I use a Boomburst Chatot and it's faster with the same Sp. Atk
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>>15284793 Volcarona doesn't need a mega
Hence it will almost definitely get one.
Anonymous
>>15283958 >Charitard being retarded Did you really expect anything different?
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>>15284816 >children don't deserve to own this game Anonymous
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>>15284816 > HURR LENEGDNARIEAR FOR NUBS!1!! Have fun using Moltres
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>>15284816 Yeah I hate those cheap-ass Regice and Moltres users. They should use a Pokemon that takes skill, like Aegislash.
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Or anyjuan with the mind of a child ^
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>>15284816 People who think all legendaries are good don't deserve to own this game
Anonymous
It just feels like the game is broken, I can quite put my head in it...
Anonymous
>>15282485 Now you know how it feels when smashbros faggots always choose Final Destination.
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>>15284970 Did your opponent use sticky web on you?
Anonymous
It just feels like the game is broken, I can quite put my finger on what it is, but this is the worst pokemon gen so far (from a competitive point of view)
Anonymous
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>>15284970 Did they use sticky web?
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>>15283370 Hydreigon resists Ghost, so it's still an option if you like offensive presence (no Blissey) but hate sand (no Tyranitar).
92/90/90 isn't exactly frail, it's immune to every hazard save Perilous Pebbles (and isn't too bothered by those) and it can dish out some punishment in return. It definitely has a sizable niche.
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You're Garchomp has schizophrenia, Hence it doesn't know what it wants to be.
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>>15283592 Shofu. The nigger's name is Shofu.
Anonymous
>>15284970 replay or didn't happen
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>>15284618 perhaps you should look up things you are unsure of before you say them
Anonymous
>>15285017 Why wouldn't you play on final destination? It gives no one a reason to complain about the environment, and no one is going to be able to blame stage hazards.
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>>15283592 Fuck you, Shofu's cool.
Anonymous
>>15282485 You're a fucking idiot. If there really is only 6 pokemon, what's stopping you from making an anti-meta team?
Anonymous
>>15285042 I know that feel an emboar (65 based speed) outsped my timid 31 IV gengar (110 base speed) with a +1 speed stage increase it got from eating a berry ( so it wasnt scarfed). Math says the emboar shouldve had 97.5 speed. before nature. Fuck this game.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15285182 Trick room is pretty strong right now precisely because so many people are running mega blaziken, gengar, and other speedsters.
Anonymous
>>15285105 Let me see if I have it
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>>15282908 Likely.
And the beautiful thing is that if they release Z with new megas, they can just update X and Y to be able to play with those megas too.
Anonymous
Pretty hilarious that everyone was hailing fairy type as the Great Balancer of the metagame and then gamefreak just goes ahead and screws everything up even further with something more broken.
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>>15283958 >>15284872 > implying I am not running DD on it Why the fuck wouldn't I?
Anonymous
>>15285233 >no argument >posts mickey mouse reaction image Go play on pokefloats.
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>>15282908 MegaNidoking is coming I bet
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>>15282485 >anything being worse than Weather Wars Let me guess? X&Y are your first games after RBY/GSC, am I correct?
Anonymous
>giving already powerful pokemon like Blaziken and Scizor Mega forms instead of shit that needs it
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You fucking wish.
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>>15285293 > I CAN ONLY PLAY ON STAGES THAT ARE FAAIIIIRRRR. NUUUUHHHH ITS TPOO HARD DEALING WITH STAGES HAZAAARRRRDDSS... Smashfags are the cancer to any competitive community, if your game needs to be stripped of everything that ACTUALLY MAKES IT FUCKING FUN then its NOT a COMPETITIVE GAME.
Look, I love Smash, but its a party game.
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>>15285138 Boring as fuck.
Anonymous
>>15285249 Well, as expected, I don't have it (honest now who the FUCK would save that replay? It's basically living proof that this game is shit).
Either way I'm done with this trainwreck, call me in Z if gamefreak fixes anything.
Anonymous
>>15283951 Are there any Gligars in friend safari? Because I really want a PH Gliscor.
Anonymous
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>>15285223 That's not how stats work.
Timid Gengar: 350 speed.
Jolly Emboar: 251 speed.
251 x 1.5 = 376.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15285381 Not that you aren't right, but Mega Scizor is crap.
Anonymous
If some kid sends out both Zygarde and Yveltal/Xerneas in a double battle, does Zygarde reverse their aura, weakening its own teammate?
Anonymous
>>15285431 You don't need Safari, Gligar appear in Hordes.
Anonymous
>>15285431 Gligar is a horde mon
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>>15284577 I was planning to make a Trick Room team with a Choice Specs Exploud once I finish my Y playthrough
Used it in my X playthrough. Raped everything that didn't resist it.
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>>15284634 Move relearner.
Anonymous
>>15285431 Not sure about safari, but hordes also work.
Anonymous
>>15284864 >boomburst Chatot wait wut?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15285138 It doesn't even have to be hazards though. The fucking lopsidedness of a stage can also make it banworthy.
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>>15285223 >multiplying base speed You fool, IVs and EVs are additive
Aaron : 3952-7550-6306
Ferrothorn
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>>15285453 You're suppose to use Mega Scizor for things that you wouldn't survive as regular Scizor
if you're trying to use it the end all be all Janitor, then you're doing it wrong.
Anonymous
>>15285439 It was a personal experience.
You know that feeling when you're like "oh shit, two garchomps, but it's okay I have choice s- NO WHAT WAT
WHAT
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAazaAAAAaaaaaaAAaAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>enemy garchomp used outrage! I'm done, putting this dogshit on ebay.
Anonymous
Why aren't people using megaheracross?
Anonymous
>>15285563 Breed with Noivern to create a rockstar parrot destroyer of worlds.
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>>15285622 galvantula with sticky web
Anonymous
>>15285714 guts heracross is stronger
Anonymous
>>15285727 >210BP with no drawbacks Anonymous
>>15285691 >This entire post Jesus Christ shouldn't you be in school Timmy?
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>>15285042 maybe he had a quick claw
Anonymous
>>15285714 Because Moxie > Skill Link
Anonymous
>>15285138 >>15285580 It's called FUN.
That's why Powerstone 2 was such a blast to play. Because the stage was your enemy too, unless you knew how to take advantage of it.
Anonymous
Wait, Chatot gets Boomburst?
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>>15285899 MAKE BABBY WITH NOIVERN
Anonymous
so what fairy types are useful so far?
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>>15285811 Think for a moment and imagine if Noivern had gotten Aeriliate (all Normal-type moves are now Flying-type and are boosted in power by 30% before STAB) as its Hidden Ability.
Imagine what could have been.
Anonymous
>>15285810 not really,guts heracross reaches an attack stat of 574 after the guts bonus which is not really different from megaheracross attack stat of 515, megaheracross has also greater bulk, better attacks and he doesn't get the status damage that guts heracross needs in order to get the bonus
>>15285830 I disagree, since in order to make moxie work well you should run a scarf, and with the scarf you're often locked on moves that can't do shit to certain pokemons
Anonymous
>>15285817 It's sunday retard.
Anonymous
>>15285986 The keychain pokemon and megamawile (swords dance+sucker punch coming from huge power mega-mawile hurts a lot)
Anonymous
>>15285505 >>15285479 >>15285475 >literally leaving it up to blind guesses No thanks.
Anonymous
>>15285453 Its already been explained that you use Mega Scizor for bulkier sets
AgIn, while some Megas make Pokemon like Mawile slightly more usable, but overall they are made to be OPTIONS
Anonymous
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>>15286166 Skill Swap, or try poisoning each one and seeing which heals.
Really won't take more than 10 minutes.
Anonymous
>>15285845 The reason "tourneyfags" have the majority of stages banned or delegated as counterpicks is because they afford a ridiculous advantage to stupid playstyles (circle-camping, infinite drill-shining offstage, etc) or certain top-tier characters. That, or the hazards contribute majorly to the outcome of a match (the launcher on Pirate Ship can kill at 0%, the cannonballs at a similar percent, etc.)
It's not because they're not fun to play on- a lot are. It's because they give a huge advantage to certain characters or remove the skill element of the game in some way.
It's very similar with items, too.
Anonymous
>>15286147 Also Togekiss and Azumarill if you want to go retro.
Thankfully having them reduces the need to spam Outrage
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>>15283484 >Not naming your aegislash soedgy Anonymous
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>>15286243 Yeah, this. I main Fox in Melee and some dude INSISTED on playing on Temple, because it was his favourite stage
So I just shot him and ran away for 8 minutes
Anonymous
>>15286214 >>15286277 oh yeah, I forgot about azumarill, everyone on showdown is using him
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mine>shuckle >gardevoir >tyrantrum >dragalge >clawitzer >banette
Hajime - 4227 1615 0880
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>>15286166 I can trade you an Impish Gligar with Immunity, anon-kun. Possibly with decent IVs, though I make no promises as I'd be choosing at random. Let me know if you have a preference for gender or if you want it nicknamed. Anonymous
>>15285986 People say sylveon is shit
But my sylveon with moon blast, shadow ball and rest + sleep talk has gotten me out of trouble way more times than I care to count. Games that I thought were over weren't because the enemy only had special attackers and couldn't do shit to sylveon. He also works as an opener to deal with dragons / ghosts / physic / dark mons.
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ITT: people misusing the word "literally"
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>>15286342 most people using him right now are doing so because they're scared of Blaziken
Sam 3995-7930-5732 Loudred, Aipom, Ditto
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>>15282529 nobody took the b8 m8
WALUIGI !!FMD0gRbVsUx
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>>15286243 IF YOU CAN'T DODGE THE CATAPULT ON THE SHIP, THEN YOU SUUUUCK.
WALUIGI NUMBER ONE!
Anonymous
>>15286144 >Hurr murica is the only country I guess I wasn't wrong about you needing an education Timothy.
Anonymous
David 0602 6268 7937 lillipup/kecleon/ditto
David 0602 6268 7937 lillipup/kecleon/ditto Mon 28 Oct 2013 01:25:37 No. 15286485 Report Quoted By:
I don't play ranked and not really looking to be "competitive", but I have a lot of success with
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>>15286342 Its the best check against Blaziken while also providing decent power with Play Rough, Super power or Aqua Tail/Waterfall
Gets walled hard by Venosaur and though so pack a Fire or psychic type
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>>15283122 >complains about everyone using the the same pokemon >2 fire megas, one that resists fire and one that can trap and bail in "ou" >2 megas weak to fire, 1 that gets resisted and outsped is weak to anothers secondary stab and one that is weak to common coverage moves and has an immunity to his stab i wonder why. i assume the meta is more centralized around using or countering mega blaziken right now, just saying.
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>>15283750 use whatever fucking pokemon you like.
I fucking love Infernape and used the shit out of him in Gens 4 and 5, and I can;t wait to have my bro back. he'll probably not be as good as he was now, but I'll still use him.
Anonymous
>>15286457 >American imageboard visited by roughly 79% americans >W-H-A-T? SOMEONE ASSUMES IM FROM AMERICA AND DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT MY THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE! FUCKING AMERIFATS! THEY ONLY THINK THEY MATTER Anonymous
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>>15286473 I dunno, the ones that went against me always used the classic waterfall and/or aqua jet
Rocco 0705-3021-0890
>>15286473 I run him Choice Banded with Aqua Jet/Waterfall/Play Rough/Superpower, which is probably standard. You can also use him with Belly Drum and Aqua Jet now too, which is pretty terrifying.
Anonymous
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>>15286243 That reminds me, I once went to a tournament when Pirate Ship was still a counterpick stage. I was getting my ass kicked by Metaknight but I still won because he kept getting bombed.
Anonymous
So my plan is at the moment, Perfect train some of my favourite pokes, and do nothing.
Anonymous
>>15286590 I use a Belly Drum/jet set. The item? Mystic Water..
yeah, laugh it off. It fucking works
Anonymous
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>>15286473 Aqua Jet
Play Rough
Then you choice of belly Drum, Aqua Tail, Waterfall, Super Power, Substitute, Focus Punch
Either Choice Band if no Belly Drum or Sub or Leftovers for the others
Max attack and your choice of HP and EV spread if you want to outspeed certain walls
Anonymous
>>15286636 rattle off some of your favorites
Anonymous
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>>15282627 > Playing on Free Mode >>15282485 > No mention of Talonflame. > No mention of Rotom-W. Anonymous
>>15286398 My sylveon has light screen.
>those special attack tears It helps a ton that I can just switch into Noivern from him and he will have the screen for protection
Anonymous
>>15286644 Is that even legal?
Anonymous
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>>15283708 Not him, but I'm running Spikes, TWave, Foul Play, and Dazzling Gleam. Pretty great as a lead
Anonymous
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>>15286844 I should consider using light screen and replace it with sleep talk (I have a chesto berry, so I can still use rest + insta awake for extra survavility)
David 0602 6268 7937 lillipup/kecleon/ditto
David 0602 6268 7937 lillipup/kecleon/ditto Mon 28 Oct 2013 01:38:35 No. 15286934 Report Quoted By:
>>15286869 Yeah it is. Males and females can pass on egg moves now.
Anonymous
>>15286665 >>15286636 So Parasect is number one, I understand he works with spore.
Flygon
Klefki
Bisharp
Omastar
Cradily
Cloyster
Driftblim
Marowak
Masquerain/Volcarona Pulling up the rear
Anonymous
>>15286955 > Klefki > Cloyster > Flygon These are solid Pokemon
Anonymous
>>15286955 klefki, cloyster, flygon, marowak, and volcarona, are all decent-to good.
Anonymous
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>>15283708 Swagger T-Wave Subs Foul Play
Anonymous
>>15287069 >>15287025 Most builds would be taking 1, 2 at best and building around them correct?
Anonymous
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Klefki is probably the most fun thing I think I've ever used. Thanks anon who posted his video earlier
Anonymous
>>15286955 if you want to use parasect use it with dry skin, spore (obv), leech seed, aromatherapy and x-scissors (x-scissors>seed bomb, since leech seed and spore can't do shit to grass types)
A subseed set may be fun, but parasect is too slow to do it well
EVs: HP and defences
Anonymous
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>>15287069 Has anyone figured out if marowak got any new egg moves? As far as I can tell it only got Power-up-Punch and Confide this gen, and that's terrible.
Anonymous
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>>15284319 good luck doing that with megamawile foul play, gyarados has sort of high attack doesn't it? mmwile does
GhostSt 4811-7059-5300 Poison (Ariados-Kakuna-???)
GhostSt 4811-7059-5300 Poison (Ariados-Kakuna-???) Mon 28 Oct 2013 01:49:54 No. 15287375 Report Quoted By:
>>15284970 Talking about dat. I was fighting an asshole whose Quick claw ALWAYS activated. It was something like 6 or 8 consecutive turns
Anonymous
>Not going Choice Band ShellSmash Barbaracle.
Anonymous
>>15287135 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgxkZ8HXmg Watch this, it gives you a good idea how a solid team looks like. Klefki and Flygon together could actually form a decent core imo
Anonymous
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>>15287457 >choice band shell smash Good luck with that.
Anonymous
>>15287191 Thanks, I originally thought of using him in a raindance setup with Driftblim my dancer, I obviously wouldnt be playing super serious, I just want to cram as many of my favourites in a team that has decent synergy
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15287515 that would be nice, but again, parasect is so slow that wasting a turn for the raindance for him is a big risk.
What would really make parasect dangerous is some speed, so if you can find a way to make him more fast use it (if not just use him normally, his bulk is not perfect, but he can resist enough stuff in order to use spore)
Anonymous
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>>15287457 >Choice Band >Shell Smash Anonymous
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>>15284509 I know. I was saying that King's Shield would cause me to go, "Oh, you're trying that?" and let me switch out to a proper counter
Anonymous
>Mega Alakazam >Gengar >Barbaracle >Scizor >Zoroark >Aegislash
Anonymous
Tyler 1950-8693-7517 (Mawile, Skarmory, Excadrill)
Tyler 1950-8693-7517 (Mawile, Skarmory, Excadrill) Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:00:31 No. 15287835 Report I've got Volcarona and Mamoswine perfects so far and I don't really know how to build a team.
Anonymous
>>15287647 I read a team that once used him in a gimmick team w/trick room (I still dont see the point considering his attk is still pretty shit), any experiences in something like that?
Tyler 1950-8693-7517 (Mawile, Skarmory, Excadrill)
Tyler 1950-8693-7517 (Mawile, Skarmory, Excadrill) Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:03:47 No. 15287977 Report >>15287835 Was thinking Alakazam or Ampharos.
Anonymous
Anonymous
whats the best ability for Chandelure now?
Anonymous
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>>15287885 I'm sure that the point was just using a combination of spore, leech seed and substitute, in a trick room something like this would work well
Anonymous
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>>15288000 Thanks, I'll get on it
No. Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15285293 Smash Bros. isn't meant to be competitive. Fuck, Sakurai put in RANDOM TRIPPING because he didn't like how it was becoming a competitive game
Anonymous
>>15286200 > AgIn, while some Megas make Pokemon like Mawile slightly more usable, but overall they are made to be OPTIONS Unless your name is Charizard, in wich case, it's your ONLy option
Anonymous
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>>15288120 and then he took it out for smash 4
Anonymous
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>>15288120 You want party game? Go play mario party.
Tyler 1950-8693-7517 (Mawile, Skarmory, Excadrill)
Tyler 1950-8693-7517 (Mawile, Skarmory, Excadrill) Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:08:55 No. 15288191 Report >>15287835 >>15287977 Any.. advice? Anyone? Besides the Ampharos hater I guess.
Anonymous
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>>15285138 its funny because Final Destination may not even necessarily be the best stage for your matchup. there are several stages picked just as much as Final Destination
Anonymous
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>>15287488 as this guy says, try some unusual(but not shit) things on your team. I for instance like to run a defensive Nidoqueen, even in my OU teams.
Anonymous
>>15288134 but Charizard has TWO options
Anonymous
>>15285381 Lucario, Gengar and Blaziken are the only OU mons who's megas are better than their original forms. Pretty much everything else prefers the use of an item.
The ones that really changed are things like Kangaskhan, Banette, and Mawile.
Anonymous
>>15288413 i thought mega hera was better than normal hera
Anonymous
>>15288360 And only Y is any good.
Anonymous
>>15288454 Heracross hasn't been OU
Anonymous
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>>15288454 he is, but heracross wasn't an OU poke in gen 5, even if he was usable to a good extent in OU matches
Anonymous
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>>15288191 Volcarona and Mamoswine are both weak to water and can't break through bulky water types. Volcarona not having access to giga drain in xy and all.
If you run Volcarona you probably want a rapid spin or defog user. Tentacruel can rapid spin but wouldn't be able to cover stuff like earthquake Gyarados which gives your two other Pokemon trouble as well.
Anonymous
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>>15286955 Every one of those pokemon is usable, even Masquerain, believe it or not.
Cloyster is OU as fuck, flygon and bisharp are both UU for good reason, klefki is shaping up to be one of the best Prankster users, Parasect devours rain and is a good support poke, omastar is a slower, special attacking version of cloyster, cradily good mixed bulk and decent mixed attacking stats, drifblim is a good setup-sweeper and baton passer and Marowak hits like a tank if given the opportunity.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15288015 Shadow tag, at least until that gets banned. Might not be as good as mega-Gar, but with a scarf it's faster, plus STAB fire blast can put down a few things that Gengar can't.
Anonymous
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>>15286955 >Bisharp Congrats, you can easily set up on any Aegislash.
Anonymous
Blame the lack of Move Tutors.
Anonymous
>>15288454 Regular Hera is better. He has more speed, which is something Hera needs all he can get, plus better abilities (guts and moxie are better than skill link).
What really sucks for Heracross is that he didn't get any new moves. He still has no good way past Gliscor or Gligar, and now he has to contend with these damn fairies that resist both of his STAB attacks.
Anonymous
>>15288972 Move Tutors are the dumbest thing.
Why not just add those moves to their "relearnable" list?
Anonymous
>>15288837 Chandelure doesn't get Shadow tag anymore, it seems.
Anonymous
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>using Choice Band Imposter Ditto against Megas
Anonymous
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>>15289070 So they can use all those pointless items they created as currencies.
Anonymous
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>>15289039 read
>>15286080 Also, 10 base speed isn't that much and thanks to sticky web megahera can outspeed pretty much anything that isn't scarfed
Anonymous
>>15283662 Isnt BellyJet illegal?
Anonymous
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>>15288454 You really think people will use an ugly thing like Mega Heracross?
Anonymous
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>>15289039 don't forget about scarfed moxiecross, which can sweep whole teams if they're unprepared.
Anonymous
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>>15289083 never could. you have the best chance of finding one in a friend safari, any others you might have found or had are fake.
Anonymous
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>>15282485 I never ever see any of these in online ranked. Everyone is using Garchomp, Rotom-W, Azumarill, and/or gale winds Talonflame.
Sarkan 3368-1341-1434 [Fighting] Sawk, Tyrogue, Mienfoo
Sarkan 3368-1341-1434 [Fighting] Sawk, Tyrogue, Mienfoo Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:16:32 No. 15290535 Report Quoted By:
>>15289341 Not anymore. Gen VI added Belly Drum to his moveset.
Dynamod 1306 - 5915 - 2706
>>15289341 if a mama Azumarill knows Bellydrum (probably learned from the Poli- family) and the father knows Aquajet (probably from the -zel family), then the baby Azumarill will know both Bellydrum and Aquajet, at least this generation.
Anonymous
>>15290672 Wait, mothers can now pass on moves?
Anonymous
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>>15285986 HUGE power Azumurill
Anonymous
>>15290672 How useless is it though?
>enemy hits you >drum belly >near death if he doesn't take more than half your hp, dead next turn if he takes down your hp OR even worse
>you come first >belly drum >ded Anonymous
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>>15291170 That's not how you play a Belly Drummer. You force a switch by countering the other Pokemon. Water/Fairy can force out so many things, which makes it easy for it to Belly Drum on the switch.
Anonymous
>>15290672 Is that a special case or is it like that with egg moves now?
Anonymous
>>15291294 Mothers pass egg moves down now, works for everyone.
Anonymous
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>>15291379 OH GOD THE POSSIBILITIES
Anonymous
Anyone have a threat list of the current meta?
Dynamod 1306 - 5915 - 2706
>>15291469 Megas in general are threat pokemon, as well as Talonflame (Choice band Brave bird WILL sweep your team if you don't prepare for it, no joke)
Anonymous
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>>15284864 i know what I'm breeding next
Anonymous
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>>15291545 >sweep your team >it will kill maybe 1 or 2 Pokemon before murdering itself on recoil because noHP >Steel Anonymous
>>15282945 Mega X
Where X could be most anything. Just pick a good mega that you like, maybe Garados or Aerodactyl
Anonymous
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>>15283526 But worse overall.
LO Blaziken has ONLY FIVE PERCENT more power than M-Blaziken, while M-Blaziken gets to have extra bulk, ability to outspeed earlier on, and not losing 10% of your health every turn.
Anonymous
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>>15283484 >not running a mixed Aegislash and naming it Jafar It's almost as if you don't want to wield semi-infinite, nearly cosmic power.
Anonymous
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>>15283766 Someone who lost their attack to power split.
Anonymous
>>15291928 Mega Gengar and Aegislash on Everything
Anonymous
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>>15285240 Except what are you using to set up on them?
Anonymous
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>>15286562 Be more respectful of Europe you twat. Your descendants came from here at one point.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15292148 Maybe. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't like having multiples of the same type in his team though. And more importantly, I'm guessing he's talking about BM (3 man teams are only BM, right? Online uses the full 6?), where Mega Gengar has no ability because nobody ever bothers to switch out. Maybe Mega Alakazam instead.
Anonymous
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>>15292366 yet they say greninja won't be ou
the match before that i did the same thing but without any calm mind boosts
Anonymous
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>>15292372 Nope, online is still half teams. Game Freak fucking hates 6v6 for no apparent reason.
Anonymous
This is why I don't really like pokemon battling anymore. There are now over 700 pokemon and all you see most the time is about 10 total. There is just no variety, and gamefreak doesn't even try to balance anything. How is making a pokemon with 600 BST and one with 400 BST even balanced? Obviously the 600 is going to be used way more.They need to up the base stats of some crappier pokemon and nerf the base stats of others. Also why is pokemon so fucking focused on one shotting one another? It's fucking lame to fully train a pokemon for it be one shotted, low level battles are much more fun because there aren't all these moves that instantly one shot.
Anonymous
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>>15284970 >what is speed tie Anonymous
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>>15294457 >only 10 Pokemon are in OU >BST is all that matters, so they should all have the exact same >it'd be better if it took a dozen turns for sweepers to whittle each other down Gatavis 2552-1088-1672 (Pancham Riolu Machoke)
Gatavis 2552-1088-1672 (Pancham Riolu Machoke) Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:54:34 No. 15296420 Report Quoted By:
Rotom-W not having access to Pain Split as it did in gen 5, what'd be a good recovery move for it? Rest could be an option, but being asleep for two turns might prove to be a problem.
Anonymous
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>>15283297 I love my mega abomasnow. Shit sucks when blizzard runs out but i can just mega evo and bring the hail right back! PAIN TRAIN DONT STOP NIGGA
