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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:52:05 No.15289704 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15289909 >>15289978 >>15290059 >>15290150 >>15293247 >>15297136 >>15299221

Let's talk about the most unjustifiably overlooked Pokémon of this generation: Florges.

>dat special attack
>dat special defense
>dat HP
>dat move pool

This thing is a goddamn monster. How isn't it leading every single competitive team to victory? Pure Fairy is a great typing as well. I know everyone is all butt hurt that it isn't Fairy/Grass, but that would mean it would be x4 weak to Poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:54:49 No.15289792 Report

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I used one in my first playthrough, and she carried me throughout the whole game. Easily one of my favorite Kalos Pokemons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:56:10 No.15289832 Report

Quoted By: >>15290016

does it learn any good egg moves? breeding one now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:56:43 No.15289859 Report

Quoted By: >>15289910 >>15289930 >>15290016 >>15290070 >>15293670 >>15294541

Are they exclusively female? Please tell me they are. I don't need another instance of trap Pokémon ala Gardevoir.

(X) Ex 0619-4261-4388 (Braixen, Magmar, Charmeleon)

(X) Ex 0619-4261-4388 (Braixen, Magmar, Charmeleon) Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:58:14 No.15289909 Report

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>>15289704
Trying to get a shiny egg from her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:58:14 No.15289910 Report

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>>15289859
yes they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:58:46 No.15289930 Report

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>>15289859
Of course not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 02:59:27 No.15289951 Report

Quoted By: >>15289997

I fucking love Florges, dude. It and Delphox are easily my favorites this gen. I want a shiny one with a white flower so goddamn badly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:00:10 No.15289978 Report

Quoted By: >>15291432

>>15289704
oh yes, this thing can tank almost every specail attack you throw at her, i think it has the same specail defense as lugia.
her only problem is shit defenses ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:00:46 No.15289997 Report

Quoted By: >>15290061

>>15289951
Can't you catch white Flabebe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:01:22 No.15290016 Report

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>>15289859
It's Female only, yeah.

>>15289832
Well, it's in solely in the Fairy egg group. So make of that what you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:02:52 No.15290059 Report

Quoted By: >>15290128

>>15289704
It's either a worse Sylveon that can't learn Shadow Ball or Baton Pass or it's a worse Gardevoir that can't learn WoW, Thunder Wave or Hypnosis or Mega evolve, why the fuck would anyone use it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:02:56 No.15290061 Report

Quoted By: >>15296585

>>15289997
Yeah, but I want a shiny one that has a white flower. It's fuckin' gorgeous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:03:03 No.15290069 Report

Quoted By: >>15290712 >>15293313

Florges is cursed to have basically no egg moves. Look at what's already been tried without luck

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/florges.3489691/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:03:03 No.15290070 Report

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>>15289859
female only

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:03:59 No.15290086 Report

Quoted By: >>15290917

Base 78 HP isn't exactly what I'd call "great". It works fine with Florges' monstrous special defense, but its terrible defense stat doesn't do it any favors.

Florges also has two completely situational abilities that only work in Doubles, which isn't exactly a problem in that scene but limits its potential in Singles.

That being said, she does have an amazing support movepool (Aromatherapy and Wish together backed by a decent type is lovely), and she certainly can bite back with Moonblast.

She kind of reminds me of Beheeyem in some ways, as though she's better off in Doubles than in Singles, especially with her abilities and movepool practically begging her to help out other team mates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:05:28 No.15290128 Report

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>>15290059
Really it's a worse Goodra that doesn't have Gooey to make up for it's obvious weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:06:00 No.15290150 Report

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>>15289704
>Every time I hit it with Flying type attack
>Every time it's only normally effective

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:06:00 No.15290151 Report

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>but that would mean it would be x4 weak to Poison.
Like if that means shit. Had Florges been Grass/Fairy he would have been Heatran's buttbuddy. They would have combined so well that FerroCent and SkarBliss would have been green with envy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:21:09 No.15290712 Report

Quoted By: >>15291092

>>15290069
>no egg moves
gen 6 in a nutshell

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:22:45 No.15290771 Report

Quoted By: >>15291596

If this thing got Grass typing and or egg group...
>Breed With Lilligant
>Quiver Dance
Destroy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:26:31 No.15290917 Report

Quoted By: >>15290989 >>15291092

>>15290086
This. I fucking LOVED Florges while I was playing the game, but both of its abilities are unforgivably awful. If you can live with a Pokemon gimped by what is essentially no ability then more power to you.

I'll be here hoping they decide to give Florges literally anything that'd work for a Singles setup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:28:15 No.15290989 Report

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>>15290917
I'm tempted to use one. I went through too many pokemon and settled for anger-point Primeape, and I haven't been able to put use...not like he'd survive. it knocked out a Mewtwo though, so hey.

Floreau 1392-4464-2460 (Rock- Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbacle)

Floreau 1392-4464-2460 (Rock- Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbacle) Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:30:27 No.15291092 Report

Quoted By: >>15291302

>>15290712
But that's false.

Florges' line is particularly notable for having a nearly non-existant egg move pool.

Though the information isn't out for egg moves, people have been successfully breeding relevant moves onto Gen 6 mons.

>>15290917
>implying GF cares about singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:31:27 No.15291140 Report

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It's just so fucking ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:31:39 No.15291152 Report

Quoted By: >>15291258

It is gen 6's waifumon, so I can't hate it. Have you seen that ass? Fucking UNF.

Paul 3110-4792-9313

Paul 3110-4792-9313 Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:34:00 No.15291258 Report

Quoted By: >>15292805

>>15291152
It's no Gardevoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:35:02 No.15291302 Report

Quoted By: >>15291475

>>15291092
;_; But I really wanna use Florges in Singles ;_;

I remember someone saying to use a Trevenant alongside Florges and have a Forest Curse used on yourself. That way Flower Veil works on both of you, and you can use Petal Shield or whatever that move was that raises all grass types defenses.

But adding grass seems like it'd be more of a weakness than a bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:38:05 No.15291432 Report

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>>15289978
>specail

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:39:00 No.15291475 Report

Quoted By: >>15296849

>>15291302
>But adding grass seems like it'd be more of a weakness than a bonus.
You're right. Everything that resists Fairy also resists Grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:41:52 No.15291596 Report

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>>15290771
>breeding 2 female only pokemon
good luck with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:47:56 No.15291857 Report

Quoted By: >>15292286

Good moveset and nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 03:59:15 No.15292286 Report

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>>15291857
You can probably run a decent Cleric set with Florges.

Bold, 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SPD
Leftovers
>Wish
>Protect
>Aromatherapy
>Moonblast

Other moves like Light Screen, Calm Mind, or Toxic could be fairly useful, especially since this set doesn't have any EVs invested in special attack and thus Moon Blast won't be too crazy strong, though taunt will shut it down without an attacking move and Protect is useful for recovering with Wish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:13:22 No.15292805 Report

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>>15291258
You're right, Gardevoir is a complete twig

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:13:56 No.15292822 Report

Quoted By: >>15292967 >>15293146

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET A WHITE ONE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:17:38 No.15292967 Report

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>>15292822
Breed it, it's the shiny version
inb4 someone thinks I'm serious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:22:17 No.15293146 Report

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>>15292822
Rare in any patch of grass with Flabebe.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:24:58 No.15293247 Report

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>>15289704
>that physical defence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:27:06 No.15293313 Report

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>>15290069
Holy shit, that is turning out to be a very depressing thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:27:37 No.15293328 Report

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I was more butthurt about it not being as cute as Floette.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:30:08 No.15293415 Report

Quoted By: >>15293514

>How isn't it leading every single competitive team to victory?

I'm sure this is just hyperbole for comedic effect, but It saddens me to think that someone out there actually thinks Florges is that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:32:21 No.15293496 Report

Quoted By: >>15293691

>dies to doomblade
It's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:32:50 No.15293514 Report

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>>15293415
It is but Florges honestly had potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:33:26 No.15293536 Report

Quoted By: >>15293616 >>15293815

Seriously, what the fuck is that stuff around its head?
It looks like it has a landfill or insulation for hair.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:34:43 No.15293576 Report

Quoted By: >>15293620

>She loves you and takes care of you like only a good waifu can

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:35:45 No.15293616 Report

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>>15293536
She's "the garden pokémon", anon.
Just imagine those are flowers and stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:35:47 No.15293620 Report

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>>15293576
Seriously, what the shit is that around her head?
It looks like garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:37:17 No.15293670 Report

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>>15289859
>not liking trap gardevoir

What's wrong with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:37:48 No.15293691 Report

Quoted By: >>15294260

>>15293496
Let's be friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:41:36 No.15293815 Report

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>>15293536
It's the cancer killing /vp/, duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:53:37 No.15294260 Report

Quoted By: >>15294360 >>15294965

>>15293691
Okay.

Carlos 1994-1997-0457

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:56:24 No.15294360 Report

Quoted By: >>15294413

>>15294260
Hey! You aren't me!
I wouldn't have such a shitty name

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 04:57:53 No.15294413 Report

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>>15294360
>not getting the MSB reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:01:53 No.15294541 Report

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>>15289859
What a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:06:56 No.15294715 Report

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>>15290151
who cares

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:11:51 No.15294904 Report

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>>15290150
You are the definition of an idiot if you haven't learned yet.

>mfw people keep trying to use special-oriented fire attacked on my Florges

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:12:13 No.15294919 Report

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It bugs me to no end that there's nothing really noting how she is actually merged with the flower. Needs a new ability:
>Fucking Flower Bitch Or Something
>She's a fucking flower now. Treated as if she has Grass as a second type for STAB, resistances and powder immunity, but no fucking Grass weaknesses because fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:13:34 No.15294965 Report

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>>15294260
goddammit carlos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:16:46 No.15295112 Report

Quoted By: >>15295600

Would this bitch work at all in singles (aka the only kinds of battles that matter)?

Andrew 1521-2910-7027 Shuckle, Boldore, Magcargo

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Andrew 1521-2910-7027 Shuckle, Boldore, Magcargo Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:28:41 No.15295540 Report

Quoted By: >>15295589

What's the breeding chain to get Belly Drum and Aqua Jet onto Azumarrill?

Also, would one then run Belly Drum, Aqua Jet, Superpower, Play Rough? Or would you drop Superpower for Belly Drum and keep Aqua Tail/Waterfall

Andrew 1521-2910-7027 Shuckle, Boldore, Magcargo

Andrew 1521-2910-7027 Shuckle, Boldore, Magcargo Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:29:44 No.15295589 Report

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>>15295540
Just answer the question, I know I fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:30:04 No.15295600 Report

Quoted By: >>15295641

>>15295112

I use one effectively in singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:31:03 No.15295641 Report

Quoted By: >>15295810

>>15295600
IV's, EV's, Nature, Moveset, and Items?

David 1075-1526-5452 Grass, Ivysaur, Sunkern

David 1075-1526-5452 Grass, Ivysaur, Sunkern Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:33:51 No.15295744 Report

Quoted By: >>15297764

But I want Togekiss! Off to the GTS for this one I suppose. Was it retarded to use second Dusk Stone on Murkrow?

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:35:55 No.15295810 Report

Quoted By: >>15295864 >>15297191

>>15295641

Not sure, 252/252 sp.att/sp.def, Modest, and pic related.

I'm currently trying to breed for hidden power ground to cover her poison/steel weaknesses, which will replace psychic, but so far no luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 05:37:27 No.15295864 Report

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>>15295810

Forgot to mention, also looking for a better item than pixie plate, but I haven't done much faffing about in the maison to experiment, and leftovers is being used by a different party member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:00:49 No.15296585 Report

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>>15290061
They pass on their flower colour to their child

Get Masuda Methoding

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:10:16 No.15296849 Report

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>>15291475
Not to mention that none of the types they resist, the other is weak to, iirc

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:20:15 No.15297055 Report

Quoted By: >>15297083

I like Floette's design but I don't like Florges' design. And I already have Togekiss and Gardevoir on my team.
What do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:21:39 No.15297083 Report

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>>15297055
Nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:23:34 No.15297136 Report

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>>15289704
>dat SpDef
Hit my buddy's with a Flamethrower from my SpAtt nature raised, spAtt Iv maxed out, SpAtt EVs maxed out fucking Delphox. It took like a third of its health. I was fucking dumbfounded.

Why it isn't Fairy/Grass, I'll never know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:25:54 No.15297191 Report

Quoted By: >>15297518

>>15295810

>Psychic
>Only super effective on one type that Fairy isn't
>That type is Poison, and most Poison types will outspeed and kill Florges with physical Poison attacks

Better switch that for Petal Dance or, in a sun team, Solarbeam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:34:06 No.15297410 Report

Quoted By: >>15297549

I hate how the Flabebe line is exclusively female. There should have been males too, damn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:37:45 No.15297518 Report

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>>15297191

I already mentioned that I'm breeding for hp-ground to cover both her weaknesses. Psychic is there to cover poison-types.

Also, I run trick room, so outspeeding her is rarely an issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:38:54 No.15297549 Report

Quoted By: >>15297640

>>15297410

>tumblr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:42:15 No.15297640 Report

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>>15297549
We have male Gardevoirs, there should be male Floettes/Florges too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:47:23 No.15297764 Report

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>>15295744
You can get more stones through secret training

Rudolf (IGN= Aefer Yamma) 5472-7478-5328

Rudolf (IGN= Aefer Yamma) 5472-7478-5328 Mon 28 Oct 2013 06:50:31 No.15297847 Report

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Has anyone experimented with Flabebe if it can learn any ground move by egg like Land Power or Mud Shot?
Or other support moves like Heal Pulse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:46:38 No.15299221 Report

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>>15289704
Probably because everyone and their mom is running an iron head aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:55:59 No.15299386 Report

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I don't like its design, but after using it all game and playing with it in amie I couldn't bring myself to get rid of it. It looks like a Hoo or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:08:51 No.15299605 Report

Quoted By: >>15299782

Florges is a worse sylveon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:20:55 No.15299782 Report

Quoted By: >>15299950

>>15299605
Sylveon is just a worse Gardevoir

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:24:23 No.15299836 Report

Quoted By: >>15299950

Anyone else annoyed that it's not Fairy/Grass? It's 75% flower for God's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:31:21 No.15299950 Report

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>>15299782
Nope, gardevoir is held back because psychic is pretty much all downside.
>>15299836
Yes. if florges was fairy/grass it would actually be good.

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