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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:43:12 No.15299148 View View Reply Original Report

Alright /vp/, if you're so smart : What Pokemon can actually stop Galewings Talonflame from killing them while also being worth more than being Talonflame counters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:47:15 No.15299227 Report

Quoted By: >>15299250

Mega Aggron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:48:36 No.15299248 Report

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Azumarill

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:48:38 No.15299250 Report

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>>15299227
One of the rules was "Being worth more than being a Talonflame counter"

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:49:21 No.15299262 Report

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:49:42 No.15299269 Report

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Furfrou

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:49:52 No.15299272 Report

Quoted By: >>15299285

Azumarill
Barbaracle
Rhyperior
Kabutops
Vaporeon
etc

Any other questions, casual?

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:50:41 No.15299285 Report

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>>15299272
How is one supposed to Counter Togekiss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:50:45 No.15299287 Report

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Avalugg, dont even need max def IV's just EV's.
Sturdy incase it crits, then avalanche the frail firebird. Plus, the recoil from B-bird/Flareblitz gives a nice chance to KO.
9/10 times my Avalugg has beaten Taloncunt

Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)

Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover) Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:50:51 No.15299291 Report

Quoted By: >>15299439

ttar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:51:41 No.15299310 Report

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Any electric, rock, or steel type with decent defense or health.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:54:22 No.15299357 Report

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Cloyster

2681-0070-8752 Jazz

2681-0070-8752 Jazz Mon 28 Oct 2013 07:59:01 No.15299439 Report

Quoted By: >>15299569 >>15299753

>>15299291
Don't use Tyranitar, TalonFlame gives you the finger with U-Turn and GTFOs.

Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover)

Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover) Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:06:31 No.15299569 Report

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>>15299439
pursuit if my brains switched on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:07:42 No.15299592 Report

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>have rocks up
>put red card on something with rough skin or iron barbs
>talonflame is now completely fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:09:59 No.15299623 Report

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Anything that can tank physical attacks from a flying or fire type attack.
Either he'll be forced to switch or try and fight. Either way it'll be fucked.

Neab 0318-7912-3357 (Lampent, Pumpkaboo, Spiritomb)

Neab 0318-7912-3357 (Lampent, Pumpkaboo, Spiritomb) Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:15:41 No.15299716 Report

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>>15299148

Avalugg checks it decently, you can't ohko it due to sturdy and then either roar it out or oneshot it with Stone Edge, maybe even Avalanche

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:15:46 No.15299719 Report

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Slowbro, Tyranitar, Vaporeon, Suicune, Heatran, bulky Zapdos (even an offensive one could take an unboosted Flare Blitz but a bulky one completely shits on it), literally anything that sets up a Substitute on the switch, Hippowdon, Jellicent and Gyarados and those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Anyone dumb enough to think Talonflame will be more than UU at best should probably kill themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:19:06 No.15299753 Report

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>>15299439
80 base attack non-STAB U-turn is not that scary, especially since Talonflame will get its precious anus torn apart by pebbles. There are Pokémon that are worth sacrificing one or two Pokémon for to keep Stealth Rock off the field but Talonflame is not one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:22:58 No.15299813 Report

Quoted By: >>15300147

Can a aqua jet from kabutops even kill it? it really only hits for 40?

Focus sash weak armor? Attack and speed EV?

Swords
Aqua jet
stone edge
pebbles? (are they even viable in 3v3?)/pursuit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:24:29 No.15299838 Report

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>>15299148

Kabutops, Slowbro, Jellicent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:24:59 No.15299844 Report

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Just use ttar. Even without any defense investment, it takes 30% tops from anything talonflame can do. And dies twice over from a stone edge, or loses a good deal to pursuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:31:07 No.15299946 Report

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Any Rock type resists both of its STABs and threatens it. Just like every bird that isn't called Fearow (Drill Run) or Staraptor (Close COmbat).
Also, it loses 50% HP every switch in as long as you have dem rawks set up.
>they send Talonflame to revenge kill you
>-50%
>switch to rock type
>they switch out
>bird doesn't survive the next time they come in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 08:42:04 No.15300147 Report

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>>15299813

you dont even need a sash when kabu 4x resists fire and 2x resists flying with 105 base defense, also im pretty sure its a 100% kill with life orb, Kabu is generally my revenge killer or check in to fast fire beasts like blaziken, infernape or talon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 09:25:32 No.15300881 Report

Quoted By: >>15301077

I've been using Mega Mawile

Tank the invariable Brave Bird, Sucker Punch when they try to Flare Blitz

I actually want to train up a Tyrantrum for similar purposes and use Rock Polish when they switch/smash themselves against him ineffectively, mostly because I want an excuse to fit Rock Polish Tyrantrum into my team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 09:39:07 No.15301077 Report

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>>15300881
I've been choice headsmashing and it basically never works online.

Despite having 80% accuracy I miss 5/7 shots. When I do hit they live and counter or swap out and kill with priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2013 09:58:41 No.15301386 Report

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You need something with high defense that resists both its stabs BUT you also need to be able to avoid being crippled by Will-o-Wisp. And with Heatran unobtainable, the obvious solution is Magcargo.

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