So I watched Pokemon Origins yesterday.
It was really good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU9K024gAow for those that haven't seen it.
It made me realize the original Pokemon anime is a piece of shit.
Why is Ash such a shitty character? Why does he have so little character development?
Why did they insist on keeping him throughout johto and the rest of the regions?
Why did the writers decide to drop so many plot points like we would forget? (pic is just en example of many) OF COURSE WE DIDN'T FORGET, why did Ash promise to go get Pidgeot back but never did? I spent the whole of Johto series waiting for ash to finish his faggy quest because he was supposed to get the GS ball back and on the way to Pallet he would get Pidgeot back! He never did and I realized I hated Ash at that point and decided to stop watching.
Bit unrelated, but I once saw what seemed to be a mini series that focused on Gold and that was actually kinda good. Does anyone know what it was called?
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The creator of Pokemon wanted Ash to actually age, and eventually become what we know as "Red" He wanted Red to be a saviour of Pokemon, taming legendarys and rares, becoming the ultimate pokemon trainer.
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The entire anime is just one long commercial to play Pokemon. As for the saga regarding Gold, it's Pokemon Chronicles and it's called Raikou and the Legend of Thunder (I think)
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Change carries risk. That's the answer.
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Zach | 1736-0719-8504 [Pancham, Meditite, Tyrogue] Tue 29 Oct 2013 00:00:04 No. 15326042 Report >>15325865 iirc, they cut out the Celebi arc with the GS ball in lieu of doing the Celebi movie
Anonymous
No nickname given to Charmander, based Red shoving it up all the Karenfags asses.
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>>15325978 I guess you should call it that. Every episode focuses on a particular pokemon and not much else. It gets very old very fast, but I do believe it did its work in getting me into the games.
Anonymous
>not realizing that the anime is "Hey kids, this is Pokemon, you should buy it!: The Show"
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>>15326085 >shoving it up all the Karenfags asses. What?
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>>15325745 >It made me realize the original Pokemon anime is a piece of shit. Anonymous
>There are people in /vp/ who actually liked Origins
Anonymous
>>15326042 That's retarded. Lugia got an arc AND a movie.
Anonymous
>>15326131 That's true, but then again imagine what would've been like to have a show like the Origins mini and tell me it wouldn't be 100x better and more profitable than focus the whole franchise around a kid that doesn't grow up and no one actually cares about??
Anonymous
>>15325865 If ash focused on catching every pokemon like in origins we would have gotten to see every pokemon anyways it would have been great.
Anonymous
>>15326305 Origins suffered from horrendous pacing.
It would be perfect if it was more than 3 episodes + 30 minutes shameless XY plug.
Anonymous
>>15326342 >more profitable Origins got worse ratings than the regular anime
worse ratings than best wishes
Anonymous
>>15326342 >He thinks a lol GRIMDARK and EDGY story will sell more toys Anonymous
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>>15326305 What did you expected Red to be like? He's like 10 years old jesus fuck
Anonymous
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The fights in Origins were pretty fuckin' cool, but then they skip almost all of the fucking Gym Leaders in the god damn story.
Anonymous
OP, what do you like better? The Simpsons or For Better or Worse?
Anonymous
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>>15326343 I kinda disagree. It was nice seeing Red catching all the pokemon, but it lead up to Red using different pokemon in every battle, that way nobody really cared about his pokemon other than his Charizard.
It's better to have a character with few pokemon that appear more often
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>>15326392 It got bad ratings because they shoved the whole kanto story into a few episodes, if they had spread them out like the ash story it would've done better
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>>15326392 I'm talking about what if they have done Origins-like since the beginning in the 90's, not deciding today to start as whole series around Origins, of course it won't do as well
>>15326400 Yeah that's totally what I said you're good oh god you're good so good so good
Anonymous
>>15325865 >>15326042 I want to know why they even had the original donut steal Star Islands or whatever.
Why hasn;t there been a game where you can go there yet?
Also, is the Origins a one time thing only or do you think they will do one for GSC for either GOld's journey or an alternate telling from Red's point of view?
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>>15326671 I don't think so, unless there's a new mechanic in gen VII they want to promote
Anonymous
>earn lots of money making a full season dedicated to gym and noteworthy events in the game >decide to skip everything and throw in a shameless ad for gen 6
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Giovanni episode was the best.
Anonymous
>>15326884 That I agree, there was no need for the mega stuff if they just wanted to make a mini to
please oldfags, because let's face it no 10 year old today that watched the anime even knows who Red is Anonymous
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>>15327034 I think you underestimate how many people know gen 1, especially in Japan where the company who made origin probably thought would be the only place to care about it because Japan is all for blatant advertisement.
Anonymous
>there are people on /vp/ who seriously believe Red could defeat RSE or DPPt Ash
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>>15326540 Havent seen that second series and never heard of it.
Ai used to like Simpsons but then it went to shit. Relevance?
Anonymous
>>15327428 Ash has very little to do with the game series and you know it. How many attacks does pikachu know?
Why you would think to pit him against anyone from the games is beyond me.
Anonymous
>>15328517 >How many attacks does pikachu know? 4? What about it?
Anonymous
>>15328635 what are those four then?
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>>15328517 The Pokemon in the anime are restricted to 4 attacks too.
Ash's Pikachu has had Thunderbolt, Iron Tail, and Quick Attack since like fucking Roxanne, and the last move was Volt Tackle until Best Wishes where it was changed to Electroball.
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>>15328839 Thunderbolt, Quick attack, Iron tail and Electro ball
Anonymous
>>15328635 So pokemon actually only know only 4 moves at any given time in the anime?
Did he forget iron tail, thundershock, thunderbolt, agility or volt tackle?
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>>15327428 I don't remember RSE Ash as being good at all.
But Origins Red seems like exactly the kind of faggot to be using Mewtwo, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, and Mega Charizard X in every single battle, so I sort of doubt Ash could beat him any more than he beat Tobias.
Which was not a lot.
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>>15328923 He hasn't use Thundershock or Agility since like, Johto.
I'm pretty sure he's running Thunderbolt/Iron Tail/Electro Ball/Volt Tackle right now.
He forgot Quick Attack to learn Volt Tackle, I remember that.
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>>15328923 Don't think he's had Thundershock since Kanto. Believe he lost Thunder/Agility when it learned Iron Tail. Forgot whichever one he didn't forget for Volt Tackle in the beginning of D/P, iirc. Then forgot Volt Tackle for Electroball in Best Wishes.
Anonymous
>>15327428 Red is a Champion, and Ash is shit compared to Champions. No amount of your spite towards Redfags would change the fact that he'd 4/0 Ash at worst just like Tobias.
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>>15326368 I kept thinking I was skipping episodes because suddenly Red had 3 badges, then 5 then 7...
I also thought it was just a 4 episode long commercial for X,Y. But seeing charizard punch mewtwo in the fucking face was cool.
Anonymous
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>>15325745 The writers for the pokemon show are complete and utter garbage.
Anonymous
>>15326316 Lugia is also the only Pokemon EVER created by the anime staff.
Anonymous
>>15329988 Ash's Sinnoh team was too strong, so the writers had to bring in a faggot with Darkrai and Latios to stop him from winning the league.
Anonymous
>>15330420 What? Why did he have those pokemon?
Anonymous
>>15330207 What about HoHo in season 1 episode 1
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>>15330505 Nobody knows. He just sorta popped up and soloed everyone in the league with a Darkrai. Ash is the only person in the entire tournament who managed to knock the damn thing out. We never really learned much about him.
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>>15325745 pokemon chronicles...
also you forgot about his special hat...
Anonymous
>>15325745 It took you this long to realize the anime is shit?
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>>15330537 Ho-oh was already revealed to the public at that point. There's one really, really old Japanese magazine scan floating around that has his G/S artwork on the same page as some pre-release information about the anime.
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>>15330723 Lugia is credited as being designed by Takeshi Shudo, director of the second Pokemon movie. I don't feel like digging up an article about it, but it was one of the main things attributed to him when he died
Anonymous
I don't get it. Why does Ash have to be such a stupid trainer? What purpose does it serve, business wise?
Anonymous
Goddamnit why can't I hold all these feels?!
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>>15332387 It makes him more relatable to the kiddies. He's allowed to get stronger over a season, but he can't go kicking butt from the get go of the next one - he has to work back up.
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>>15327428 >Implying mewtwo wouldnt solo ashs entire team. Anonymous
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>>15327428 >There are people who think a wet paper towel isn't enough to beat Ash Anonymous
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Are they ever going to make and english version of this? I've watched the subbed versions but It's just not the same to me.
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Wouldn't announcing it defeat the purpose of it being a HIDEout?
Anonymous
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>>15330684 I've known it for a long time, but I think Pokemon Origins really puts it out there. I think it could even be Nintendo (or whoever's in charge of the animated series) actually admitting they did a shit job with the series.
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>>15327428 Red actually has 150 Pokemon.
He could take a dump on Ash using Mewtwo, Charizard X, Moltres, Zapdos, Articuno and Dragonite.
