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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:38:01 No.15364359 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15364390 >>15364392 >>15364556 >>15365680 >>15367307

>People actually care about IVs
But, why? They make such a little difference in stats that it's a waste of time breeding for the perfect IV'd pokemon when you're not even gonna EV the other perfect stats save for 2.
I mean seriously, why would you waste your time for a difference so small that it would probably be bested by a poor iv'd pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:38:45 No.15364390 Report

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>>15364359
>things that a 1 point speed difference isn't a huge deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:38:46 No.15364392 Report

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>>15364359
>what is speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:39:15 No.15364413 Report

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There's always going to be someone more serious about this game then you.

I ev train, but that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:42:43 No.15364556 Report

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>>15364359
>waste of time breeding

What else is there to do post game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:43:00 No.15364571 Report

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>>15364390
>1 point
>priority move gets used

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:45:25 No.15364670 Report

Quoted By: >>15364912

Inferior Speed IVs will lose you games.

Apart from that, yeah they're not that important but considering how pathetically easy it is to get a competitively viable pokemon this gen, it's worth knowing what they are and how to get them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 22:52:28 No.15364912 Report

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>>15364670
They wanted competitive battling to be more of a casual scene.

I can't help but love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:05:16 No.15365403 Report

Quoted By: >>15367456

You want any stat advantages you can get in a competitive match. This gen I've already been in a few matches I would have lost if it weren't for those few extra HP or defense IVs.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:08:44 No.15365518 Report

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Speed IVs are so important that many people didn't use HP Fire on Latios to be able to keep that 31 IV, even if it meant losing on coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:09:58 No.15365576 Report

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Because you can win or lose by a small margin, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:10:30 No.15365596 Report

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My tallonflame survived a scald with 4 HP and went on to kill everything, so I think those HP and Defence IVs were differently worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:12:23 No.15365680 Report

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>>15364359
Not being able to outspeed your opponent costs you matches
Not being able to hit harder than your opponent costs you matches
Not being able to take hits better than your opponent costs you matches

Out of all those things, only one relies on one stat. Attack is based on two depending, but defense is based on three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:14:49 No.15365773 Report

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If one had to estimate, how much sort of on "average" would 31 IVs in a stat yield over 0 IVs in that stat, but same base/EVs? This is presuming all other factors are identical.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:15:55 No.15365826 Report

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>>15365773
31

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:17:45 No.15365895 Report

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>>15365826

So the IV is merely added? That's what I thought before, but OP's remarks made me think it might have been even smaller.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:18:57 No.15365951 Report

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>>15364556
You can play a different game

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:20:19 No.15366006 Report

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>>15365895
OP is an idiot
Just multiply the IV by your mon's level, divide by 100, and always round down. That's how you get the effectiveness your IV will have. It will actually havea 34 point different on a positive natured stat as well.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:21:19 No.15366062 Report

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IVs are the real difference between shit pokemon and good pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:49:49 No.15367180 Report

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OCD

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:52:56 No.15367288 Report

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>Starmie vs. Starmie, last pokemon standing
>Oh god oh god oh god
>I Thunderbolt first
>YEEEEESSS
>and then focus sash, then he thunderbolts back
>fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:53:27 No.15367307 Report

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>>15364359
Read this in a beginner's comp guide today:

>Let's take our Mixed Infernape from above. You'll notice that he runs HP Ice. This is because Dragon Pokémon are very common, and quite a few of them have a 4x weakness to Ice. This means that sneaking Ice moves onto certain Pokémon can prove very valuable for your team. The special thing about Infernape is that it has 108 speed. This is faster than almost all Dragons, so it can really catch them off-guard. The only problem is that many Dragons are quite bulky, even without HP investment. This is where the Power Creep comes in. According to Smogon's damage calculator (this is on their front page. It's an invaluable tool; use it), an Infernape with a neutral SpA nature and 4 EVs against any standard Salamence set with 0 HP and SpD EVs and a neutral SpD nature has an 93.75% chance to OHKO. This is due to a thing called damage roll, which is a number randomly generated by the game and determines whether the used move will do anywhere from 85% to 100% of the actual calculated damage. Now, that 6.25% could potentially be the difference between winning and losing, so we want to guarantee a OHKO. What we do is continue adding EVs into SpA on the damage calculator until it tells us that we will have a guaranteed OHKO. Upon doing this, we discover that this Infernape needs exactly 12 SpA EVs to guarantee an OHKO on Salamence. We will take these 8 extra EVs out of Attack. Never EVER take extra EVs out of Speed when Power Creeping. You can still get the exact same damage out of something with one or two less attack points than normal, but you need every single bit of speed for obvious reasons.

Even if you're not doing what he's describing, the logic is the same. You could miss out on a win because your IVs caused you to be outsped by one point or miss a KO by 1 HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2013 23:57:52 No.15367456 Report

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>>15365403
What this faggot said

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 00:02:29 No.15367631 Report

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>31 points in each and every stat
>Not a big deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 00:34:42 No.15368896 Report

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With 31 atk IVs
>+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 298-351 (95.81 - 112.86%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
With 0 Atk IVs
>+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 272-320 (87.45 - 102.89%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

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