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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:23:56 No.15384381 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15384419 >>15384426 >>15384823 >>15386944 >>15387396 >>15387428

I spend hours breeding this glorious motherfucker, a shiny alakazam with good IVs, magic guard, maxed EVs, and maxed affection.

And they give his mega evolution TRACE?

Preorder fucking cancelled

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:25:54 No.15384419 Report

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>>15384381
>yfw you trace Protean, Sand Veil, Shadow Tag, Swift Swim, Solar Power, Magic Bounce, No Guard, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:26:13 No.15384426 Report

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>>15384381
>Not checking mega ability before breeding
bait/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:29:06 No.15384477 Report

Quoted By: >>15384601 >>15384740

What's the point of Magic Guard if you aren't going to throw life orb on him?

Besides, trace is the ultimate ability for fucking with people. Send him in against a Levitater/Volt Absorb/Flash Fire/etc and get a free immunity, or against a Shedinja and get motherfucking Wonder Guard.

The possibilities are endless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:33:38 No.15384551 Report

Quoted By: >>15384577

You can now chose which ability to trace in doubles/triples. Even allies.

Best ability?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:34:53 No.15384577 Report

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>>15384551
That's so good of an idea I need to break out the GIF version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:35:14 No.15384582 Report

Quoted By: >>15384627

Fuck you, faggot.

Trace is godly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:36:47 No.15384601 Report

Quoted By: >>15384623

>>15384477
Magic guard is good for sashes that can't be broken by hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:37:48 No.15384623 Report

Quoted By: >>15384634

>>15384601
And that requires a held item. Which Megas don't have anyway.

Kohdok 4098-3526-4984(Spearow, Swanna, Tropius)

Kohdok 4098-3526-4984(Spearow, Swanna, Tropius) Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:37:53 No.15384627 Report

Quoted By: >>15384651 >>15384750 >>15387047

>>15384582
Ah, yes. The days where I ran Gardevoir competitively. There was this one time a guy actually tried to use an Electivire. I switched in Garde, grabbed the speed bonus, and swept.

Lotsa people lead with Mega-Blaziken. Trace one of those, then tell me Mega-Kazam is bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:38:29 No.15384634 Report

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>>15384623
Which is why mega alakazam is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:38:59 No.15384651 Report

Quoted By: >>15384678 >>15384701

>>15384627
Isn't he kind of already fast enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:40:00 No.15384666 Report

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tfw your garde has sync

Kohdok 4098-3526-4984(Spearow, Swanna, Tropius)

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Kohdok 4098-3526-4984(Spearow, Swanna, Tropius) Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:40:34 No.15384678 Report

Quoted By: >>15384700

>>15384651
Nope. Gotta go fast!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:41:33 No.15384686 Report

Quoted By: >>15387325

>people still think megas MUST be activated on first turn by the lead

You should literally cancel your life

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:42:17 No.15384700 Report

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>>15384678
Oh yeah. Good point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:42:17 No.15384701 Report

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>>15384651
>turning down GOEN FAST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:44:21 No.15384740 Report

Quoted By: >>15384793

>>15384477
>What's the point of Magic Guard if you aren't going to throw life orb on him?

Immunity to damaging entry hazards
Immunity to status
Immunity to damaging weather

Not to mention Life Orb Alakazam is stronger than MegaZam, without the penalty of LO recoil. He can also run Sash sets without worrying about it getting ruined by any of the shit I listed above.

Zam's problem wasn't his speed. It was his incredible frailty and somewhat lackluster offensive movepool in a metagame where other sweepers with more bulk and better coverage and utility exist. Magic Guard was the only thing keeping him relevant.

MegaZam doesn't fix either of those problems and takes away that incredibly important ability AND uses up your Mega slot. He's trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:44:58 No.15384750 Report

Quoted By: >>15384768 >>15384805 >>15384817

>>15384627

>trace a mega chicken
>he kicks you in the face the same turn before you can even do anything unless your running protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:45:47 No.15384768 Report

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>>15384750
>megachicken
>being good enough to do that

Trace isn't a move m80

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:46:08 No.15384777 Report

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But Magic Guard Life Orb Alakazam is better than Mega Alakazam. Just don't give it a mega stone.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:46:37 No.15384793 Report

Quoted By: >>15384818

>>15384740
>Immunity to damaging entry hazards
He actually still has this. People seem to forget he comes in as a normal Alakazam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:47:11 No.15384805 Report

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>>15384750
>he literally believe trace is a move that makes you lose a turn

dafu? fuck off, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:47:36 No.15384817 Report

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>>15384750

>trace chicken
>outspeed on same turn
>OHKO with Psychic
>Alakazam's Speed rises one stage because of Speed Boost!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:47:39 No.15384818 Report

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>>15384793
But then you Mega Evolve and he loses it. You only get it the first time you switch in and that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:48:01 No.15384823 Report

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>>15384381
Just use normal Alakazam with Magic Guard you faggot.
Life Orb + Magic Guard is all you need

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 08:50:26 No.15384862 Report

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>even when mega
>that defence
>that hp

The rest doesn't make it for it.
In my opinion at least.

Ughh

Pestkop 4227 - 0773 - 7329 (Audino, lillipup, Ditto)

Pestkop 4227 - 0773 - 7329 (Audino, lillipup, Ditto) Wed 30 Oct 2013 09:50:11 No.15385777 Report

Quoted By: >>15387279

>>Tracing Mega Kangaskhan's parental bond.
>>Hit everything twice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:05:00 No.15386944 Report

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>>15384381
Use the item that changes ability.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:12:30 No.15387047 Report

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>>15384627
>tfw using Scarf Trace Gardevoir before Excadrill/Swift Swim+Drizzle ban

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:27:41 No.15387279 Report

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>>15385777
sucker punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:31:34 No.15387325 Report

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>>15384686
With some megas you might as well.
Mega Chicken doesn't change type or ability, so it's a straight upgrade to just do it.
I always Mega Evolve Banette. No reason not too. Prankster is going to be a hell of a lot more useful than my entry Frisking.
Something like Aggron it's trickier, as you can Mega to dodge potential raping from some types, like Mega Evolving so you dont get 4X Wrecked by a fighting move, or stay regular form against something that is weak to Rock for the Stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:36:02 No.15387396 Report

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>>15384381
do you have abra leftover?

i got plenty of great mons to trade

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:38:15 No.15387428 Report

Quoted By: >>15387765

>>15384381
>Spent Hours
>Only lvl 26

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2013 11:59:20 No.15387765 Report

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>>15387428
>Breeding

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