Can we have a competitive general thread /vp/? We team advice and feedback? Let's have one of those. What is your current XY team looking like, what Pokes are you having the most trouble with countering?
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Setting mine up as we speak but I can't be fucked with IVs.>Goodra special wall >Jolteon >Gliscor physical wall >Chandelure >Smeargle as setup
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>>15527836 Its pretty gud, I'd do Smeragle over Klefki. Spread and moves?
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>>15527704 Bold Dual Screens Klefki
Spore entry hazard Smeargle
M-Alakazam
Profroak
Agressive spin Starmie
Gale Wings Talonflame
I don't use Talonflame much because I don't want to be a fag. My biggest problem are Galvantulas and Bulky Wish Vaporeans.
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I can never really make a competitive team, i've just got plans for lots of different competitively viable mons and will maybe throw them together. At the very least i'll be able to keep the Battle Maison AI on its toes.
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>>15527836 Go with Klefki. You have nothing to lose with the ones you have so far.
Planning to use a Mega?
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>>15527909 Just realised I missed Azumarill too.
Smeargle I'd go sticky web, toxic spikes, spore and rocks.
Klefki I'd go foul play, twave, spikes and maybe sub.
>>15527983 No mega planned but that might change when i mess around with it online. If I used any I'd probably go with gardevoir and replace jolteon since she learns tbolt anyway.
Anonymous
Oh boy, oh boy. I got a tourney @ college late November. and I really could use help. No one is using Talonflame, but people are overhyping Aegis and Mega Scizor. So here's what I came up with.
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Any advice on a Lax Moody Octillery with perfect HP and Speed? Shiny, gotta work with the nature.
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currently running with:it has double team
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i was wondering, would it be a really bad idea to have 2 mega stones in your team?
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>>15528376 It wouldn't be bad if it's for 3v3 I suppose.
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>>15528397 so, it is bad in singles. i just can´t freaking decide between heracross or blastoise
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>>15528500 go heracross. Blastoise is pretty good without the megastone just because of its bulk. A blastoise with scald, d.pulse and dragon tail wrecks m-blaziken and aigislash
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Working on a three-poke team for online battles.>Klefki w/ annoyer set (Foul Play, Thunderwave, Sub, Swagger) >Mega Absol w/ priority sweep (Swords Dance, Pursuit, Rough Play, Sucker Punch) >???
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>>15528140 >Mega Scizor Why would people ever hype that up?
Maybe for some kind of bulky SD set, but even then lefties would probably be better.
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>>15528563 thank you stranger. ill keep that in mind, also, what do you think about blastoise with aura sphere? im guessing that without the mega stone is not as good.
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So I need a little help with this.With the desired (Fire) Hidden Power being close to impossible to obtain, what would be a good forth move for a Timid 252 Sp.Atk-252 Spe Magnezone? It's moves so far are: Charge Beam, Substitute, Thunderbolt and Hidden Power (Dragon)
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Would a No-Guard Machamp be good to put out first?
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>>15528628 maybe a stunlock Togekiss?
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>>15528637 Man I dunno. Got any advice? I'm expecting every team to have Pro-Froakie and Aegis.
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>>15528650 probably not. You're going to want to spam scald as much as possible for that 30% burn.
I think the 4th move on mine was ice beam. This build might not work as much anymore due to the popularity of grass knot on protean greninjas
btw for EVs: 252HP/252Def/4S.Def
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another question, what would be a good moveset for mega heracross? was thinking about this one
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So, can we agree that Gale Wings Talonflame is deadly, in the right hands? Yes it is frail, but there is very little outside of T-Tar in OU that can safely take one down.
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What would be a good supporting pokemon? I just realized my box is filled with offensive pokemon with my only real support being Togekiss. So far the only pokemon I'll definitely have on my team is Mega Scizor.
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>>15530612 Hence why I'm running Assault Vest T-Tar
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>>15530940 Doesn't Asault Vest only boost Sp. Def?
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>Decide to do a little Battle Spot >Suddenly painfully aware just how bad my team is equipped to deal with Mega Venusaur and Azumarill >Remember after a bunch of losses I have a flawless fully trained Ferrothorn sitting in the PC.
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>>15531024 You're so lucky you get Mega Venasaur and Azumarill I always get wrecked my mega Mawile and Talonflame
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I'm making RAIN TEAM.
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I know I want quagsire and mega-mawile on my team, but can't think of something else. Possibly Sap Sipper Goodra, as well.
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>>15531324 Mega Gyarados is dogshit. Mega Blastoise is amazing.
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Hey guys, I'm looking to get into competitive in Pokemon X
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>>15531416 Despite all the grief it gets on here, read up on Smogon.
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>>15531416 I'd start by looking at a list of all the currently released pokemon. At least the ones that are available in X/Y. Pick your favorites outta that then try and see if you can make a balanced team using those. You gotta look at the stats and stuff of each one, alongside their movepools, and typing is also important.
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Liking the Assault Vest Tyranitar so far
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>>15531367 Try a Revenge killers or fast sweepers like Noivern or Talonflame
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How do i get an adaptability Dragalge in the first place?
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>>15531416 Choose your team of pokemon, use smog on for builds.
Catch all of the said pokemon, preferably in friend safaris for the 2 perfect IVs minimum
Breed all of them to have perfect IVs (plenty of breeding guides for x and y on the net, just use google)
Get all of their held items through the Maison, get all the TMs and megastones youll need
You're good to go
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>>15531519 Depends on the rest of the set you're running.
If you're running two STABs+Earthquake, you could just use Fire for floating steel types trying to make you rely on stone miss/miss slide
Electric will leave you walled against Virizon and Breloom, but it'll let you have a much better time against a few notable bulky waters who would otherwise give you problems.
Ice if you like hurting dragons a lot.
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>>15531574 Eh, don't like the designs on either too much. Noivern might work, I suppose. Might able to throw manetric in there if I run something with sticky web, though.
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I'm convinced that Gale Wings, on showdown cancels Paralysis.
Anonymous
Is Drizzle Politoed available in the game yet or should I just go with a Rain Dancer?
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>>15531416 >Pick a non shit Pokemon you like >Pick another one that cover its weaknesses >Pick another one that cover weaknesses of the second one >Pick a Pokemon that can use rapid spin or defog >Add 2 more Pokemon that don't add too many shared weaknesses with the four you already have >Make sure at least 2 of your Pokemon are decently bulky, preferably of the water or steel types. >Make sure at least 3 Pokemon can do damage outside of gimmicks and at least 1 has a boosting move (DD, Quiver Dance, Shell Smash prefered) >Add at least stealth rock to one of them, if you are running a rapid spin user(not defog) and a ghost feel free to add spikes, sticky web and/or toxic spikes >read >>15531606 >Have fun Congrats, you have a functional balanced team.
From there you can try other strategies like stall, hyper offense, baton pass, etc, but balanced is the best way to learn stuff.
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>>15531663 Can get it via Hordes or Safari.
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Haruna 0061-0480-5607 (Vullaby, Crawdaunt, Sableye) Sun 03 Nov 2013 05:21:05 No. 15531870 Report Protean Greninja with life orb as special attack and or possibly offensive spikes
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Best nature for Garchomp this gen? I have one ready to breed Iron Head and Outrage onto Hasty, Naive, or Jolly. Question is will Meteor be worth it for the Mega evolution, and is the mega even worth it when compared to Gengar or Kangaskhan.
Anonymous
I caught a shiny Aipom in the friend safari yesterday. It had maxed Attack and Speed, I couldn't believe it.
Anonymous
So what am I doing wrong?
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Only Scyther is banned in LC at the moment right?
Anonymous
>>15532373 >>Timid Greninja drop timid for naive/hasty to maximize your U turn damage which is core on every build.
I went from Modest, Timid, and now Hasty and it's definitely worth the investment.
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So far I'm running Specs Exploud as a special attacker and Mega Mawile as a physical attacker. Currently using my story-mode Aegislash as filler.
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>>15530978 People pack Assault Vest due to the synergy with Sand Stream, enabling you to survive boosted Focus Blasts and fight back
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I used Adamant with no S.Def EVs, but its good enough for a counter at least
Anonymous
So, Kingdra's been my bro ever since GSC, but I've only started getting into the more in-depth stuff like breeding in this gen. Planning a team with one in it.
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>>15533174 Wait, never mind, I mean, SDef IVs
I still have around 220 EVs which equals it with my 0 Def Evs
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Socks 2380-3708-6825 (Magcargo, Shuckle, Nosepass) Sun 03 Nov 2013 05:09:08 No. 15533259 Report Quoted By:
>>15533019 I have actually opted for Rash on my Greninja just because the drop in Def is major vs most priority users
the Spe Def is something I find I never need though since I either get blown over or just kill them first
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>>15533231 Absolute monster in rain but hard countered by Ferrothorn, one of the most common Pokemon in competitive.
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>>15532286 If you can't run fake out, you absolutely still must run U-turn
That's Ambipom's main thing. Even with fake out, it was just to do extra damage as a scout to swap out. That's still what you should be using it for.
Without egg moves, I think you can technically pull off a Last Resort set though, if you don't want to go that route.
Can you grab Low Kick instead of Brick Break, or is that an egg move too?
Anonymous
I spent so long breeding and then training my Azumarill.or I failed it .
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>>15533290 Give it Sitrus berry and make sure it activates after BD. Be smart with switch ins
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whats a good moveset for avalugg?
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>>15533290 Replace drum with waterfall and put super power there. @choice band
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my shitty 6th gen sand team
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What is a good moveset for Weavile..?
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>>15534241 Icicle Crash, Ice Shard, Knock Off, Filler.
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Please advise.
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Hey guys,
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Guys what's a good way to counter Mega-Mewtwo X?
Anonymous
>>15535511 How much does a gale wing brave bird talonflame do to it?
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>>15535653 I dunno, sounds pretty powerful though
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>>15534758 Dragalge @ Leftovers
Modest | 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 SAtk
Poison Point | Poison Touch
- Hydro Pump / Scald / Surf
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse
Try that. You could invest more into Sp. Def over Sp. Atk
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My undying love of Baton Pass continues.
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Are there any particularly good sets for Unburden Hawlucha yet?
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I'll modify this with pokemon from other gens eventually, but I'm thinking:>Protean Greninja >Infiltrator Noivern or Gale Wing Talonflame >Contrary Bulky Malamar >Probably some Mega >Probably Avalugg for Rapid Spin if it's the only 6th gen non mega spinner >Something else, probably Aegislash or something. Might consider Klefki as well
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What are some good teammates for this guy? Besides a rapid spinner I guess.
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>>15534661 Noone can rate me?
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What should I get on Jolteon instead of signal beam?
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Just how viable is Snarls Barkley Furfrou? Or is it just full on gimmick.
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Alright guys, rate me:
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Want to try a Sun team trio for wifi battling, thinking of
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>>15536955 I'd throw on an expert belt on Greninja for the lack of gems at the moment. At least you'll be getting something out of it.
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>>15537067 Kinda like the acrobatics boost though. Do i slap expert belt on it and aerial ace instead? or rock slide?
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>>15536211 The biggest problem Furfrou has is taking special hits. Even at .75x, they'll still be hurting you pretty badly with no way to recover, that's assuming you hit them on the switch and they're not defiant, competitive, or justified.
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I need a teammate for MegaBanette, TrollKlefki (might be Dual Screen if needed), Ferrothorn, Wish Sylveon, Rotom W. I've tried a lot of option but I dont know. Klefki is not even needed and doesn't has good synergy with the rest, I just like him.
Anonymous
>>15537527 I can't claim to have much experience with stalling teams, but maybe Gliscor? He'd help cover the Ground weakness from Klefki and Ferrothorn, and he fits well with the annoyance theme. And with Klefki, I'd go dual screens to make all those defensive 'mons even more infuriating.
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>>15537676 Thanks, it's actualy perfect.
Anonymous
So what are some viable users of eviolite this gen
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>>15539287 doublade is probably the only real new eviolite user.
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>>15539326 Sliggoo's no good with it?
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3523-2236-5793 (Minccino, Smeargle, Teddiursa) Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:57:05 No. 15539560 Report Has no one thought to use Mega Aggron as a physical wall? Maybe send it out first turn for entry hazards and switch out if you encounter a special attacker. Plus with filter for the 25% reduction of super-effective hits.
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>>15539560 >Has no one thought to use Mega Aggron as a physical wall? With 230 base defense, only three 2x weaknesses, and filter?
No, who the fuck would use that as a physical wall?
That's absolutely moronic.
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>>15539560 Still too big of a weakness
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4098-3259-5795 (Mawile, Floette, Dedenne) Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:03:19 No. 15539650 Report Gengar
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So Infiltrate doesn't work on King's Shield
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I've been having moderate success with this, any tips or whatever? I plan on building this in game, what should I use in Celebi's place as a placeholder until pokebank is out? And should I go Mega SD scizor instead of Choice Band?
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>>15539560 >kill their special mons >curse sweep with aggron Anonymous
>>15539650 Once you lose Gengar you have a really, really bad fighting weakness.
Swap Focus Blast on him for Dazzling Gleam. Perfect Coverage with Shadow Ball.
That moveset sort of really doesn't look too good on Pangoro as a choice set. None of it bar crunch is safe to actually use.
I do not even know what you're doing with Cryogonal there but at this point I'm starting to feel like it's a joke team or something.
Anonymous
I'm planning my first online team for this gen, and here's what I have so far (started with a Bug theme):>Scolipede >Pinsir >Volcarona >Vaporeon >Excadrill >???
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/vp/ I have a question. If Worry Seed, or Simple Beam, or something like that is used on a Aegislash what happens? Does it get rid of it's Forme Change and force it to stay in whatever forme it's currently in?
Anonymous
>>15539716 Why Excadrill? No other Bug Spinners?
Anonymous
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4098-3259-5795 (Mawile, Floette, Dedenne) Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:17:23 No. 15539820 Report Quoted By:
>>15539699 Well I wanted to add this to my post but the text was too long, I havent played pokemon for 3 gens and Im pretty new to the competative scene, this is my first attempt at making a team so yeah. Im a noob. Thought I might get some advice posting it here
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>>15539749 I dropped the bug theme shortly after starting because I did the exact same thing last Gen, so I just took three of my favourites. Considering Pinsir's Mega and Scolipede's buff, I figured they'd be more helpful this time.
I'm not sure why I have Excadrill, as I don't really like it much. After picking him I realised how helpful he'd be though (a second option for Baton Pass). I mean, there's Forretress, but I'd rather reduce the Fire weakness a little. I just need something to handle Water types more effectively at this point.
The problem is that I like using Pokémon I favour, but most of them I'm either really bad with, or they're just no viable for competitive play. Assume the former.
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>>15539851 >I'm not sure why I have Excadrill, as I don't really like it much. After picking him I realised how helpful he'd be though (a second option for Baton Pass). I mean, there's Forretress, but I'd rather reduce the Fire weakness a little. I just need something to handle Water types more effectively at this point. Excadrill isn't going to help you on either of those points unfortunately.
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I'm trying to make a Rain team.T. Spikes or Toxic? is it worth running Wish on a bulkier set or should I just go for regular max. Spd/Sp Atk? but they're both too awesome. 'Mence has H-Pump but Noivern has Hurricane. Scizor?
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>>15528637 Why wouldn't you hype Mega Scizor? It's Scizor with better attack and tremendous defenses. More damage than Lefties, more bulk than Cband, and and no HP loss from LO.
On a RoostDance set the better defenses are far better than Lefties all on their own, because nothing is going to be killing a 252 HP Roost Scizor with chip damage, and 140/100 defenses backed up by that HP EV will definitely allow him to survive more threats than a Leftovers, on top of having even more base Attack.
And it's not like you have to do a RoostDance set on him. Those defenses and lack of LO recoil allow him to set up considerably more aggressively than anything else.
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>>15528637 Nah, the lefties argument only applies to things without reliable recovery. Hence shit like Chansey outclassing Blssey so hard for everything except damage output. Scizor gets roost. It's incredibly viable without lefties unlike Heracross.
Anonymous
Can Talonflame counter Scizor? Even with resist I have my doubts he has the bulk to tank a +2 bullet punch, especially with SR and BB recoil factored in.
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>>15540382 SR's not nearly as prominent anymore, but I'm pretty sure with no investment, even a +2 bullet punch from Megazor isn't an OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 147-173 (51.94 - 61.13%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That's adamant entirely maxed Scizor at +2.
+4 252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def (custom): 220-259 (77.73 - 91.51%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Even if he got a second swords dance off he wouldn't OHKO without residual damage.
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Garchomp @ Yache Berry
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Garchomp @ Yache Berry
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So i'm currently making a 'gimmick' team for a tournament with some friends where we need to have a gimmick.Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
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So my team is composed of:
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>>15543405 Spookie Boogie is a gimmick, not that tryhard shitfest.
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>>15543689 Wether you think it's tryhard or not it IS a gimmick.
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What would be a good water type to fit into my team? Currently I have M Scizor, Lilligant, and Togekiss as guaranteed spots, I feel like a water type for my fourth slot would be great but Blastoise isn't cutting it.
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Is there any way I can make a Glaceon work? I'm thinking hail or trick room+hail.
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>>15543689 Everyone i'm playing with are going to be equally tryhard with their gimmicks.
We're all playing to win.
Do you have any suggestions or advice or do you have nothing to add?
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Is this dude viable in any way?
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Sheer Force and a Life Orb makes him really fucking strong.
Anonymous
I'm too dumb right now to do this. Anyone good with math?
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>>15544017 He's a decent enough Special sweeper with Life Orb and Sheer Force, he got an Attack buff this gen too so he might be good on the Physical side too.
Use Entraintment on Horde Nidoran until you get Hustle.
Anonymous
>>15544017 Yes he hits like a fucking truck with Sheer Force, you don't even need the LO (I use Choice Scarf but LO would make it MUCH stronger)
Invest Max Spec Attack and Max Speed, make it modest and give it Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt and Sledge Wave
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>>15539851 You could try running a Tentacruel?
Good Rapid Spinner. Can set Toxic Spikes(More entry hazards is yummy) can burn with Scald, can use Giga Drain.
Tentacruel is pretty good for your team imo. Also helps with Fire weakness.
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Any advice on a Lax Moody Octillery with perfect HP and Speed? Shiny, gotta work with the nature.
Anonymous
I haven't played competitive since early BW days. This is the first team I've made for X/Y and I've been wondering what I could do to improve it. I've won a couple of games with it so far but I seem to be easy to set up on by stuff like Aegislash, Volcarona, and Dragon Dance MegaZard X.
Anonymous
So i'm building a 3-man random battle team of emolga, chandelure and a currently unpicked third. the team is gonna revolve around chandelure and hex, but i can't seem to find a good grass or poison typed tank that can endure some hits and throw sleep powder/status moves around (aside from venusaur but i can't find anyone who would part with a venusaurite so it's not an option) does anyone have any suggestions?
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Is there any chance that this guy would be playtested in OU just like Kyurem B?
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So I have this team that I've been working on the last two days, I really want it to work but it seems like one thing in my setup goes wrong and everything falls apart... maybe someone could help me and give some advice?>Scoliopede@focusband >Batonpass >protect >EQ >Sub >Togekiss@leftovers >Air slash >Nasty Plot >Shimmering glaze >baton pass >Amparos@mega amphy >Focus blast >Tbolt >Volt switch >Dragonpulse
Anonymous
>>15544520 You can buy the Venusorite in Lumiose City.
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>>15544682 WELL SHIT thanks man!
wait venusaur can be defense oriented right?
Anonymous
>>15544711 He can be tanky with it's hidden ability I believe.
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>>15544739 soo find a friend safari and grind, got it
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>>15532373 >>15532373 >>15532373 Bumping this now that it's not dead.
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>>15544102 >>15544137 Thanks guys, I expected shit like
> Using Nidoking > laughingwhores.jpg Also, Life orb's self damage gets removed by Sheer Force, correct?
So now I have (Mega)Kanga and Nidoking in my core, now I need a final mon for them, and my core is complete.
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>>15544799 Think about their weaknesses and what can cover both of them well.
I'd say something fast to make up for how slow the other two are.
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>>15528140 aren't def EVs better with aegislash?
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>>15544795 Never mind, Venusaur gets Thick fat when it mega evolves. the Hidden Ability doesn't seem to matter if he's Mega.
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>>15544821 Something fast sounds good. I was already planning on maybe makin it a Trick Room team using Reuniclus, or just setting up Sticky Web to help support their slowness.
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>>15544871 That would be good too, actually.
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>>15544879 I can't tell you for sure, but in my experience it takes a box or so to get one with the right combination
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this team has been working really well for me:>Slowbro (muh bro over every generation) >Rest Talk Mega Gyarados >Scolipede w/ Baton Pass >Tyranitar w/ Assault Vest >Heatran w/ Air Balloon, stealth rock >Gourgeist-small, a sub-seeder >252 HP / 252 Speed EVs >Mental Herb >Substitute >Swords Dance >Baton Pass >Protect
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>>15544871 Do Sticky Web, its pretty fucking broken, try to carry Stealth Rocks as well so if someone is packing alot of flying types or levitate mons you can do some damage on the switch in
Carry a Ghost type as well to prevent spinners, I prefer Gourigiest as its bulky and slow so it can outspeed shit after Sticky Web
Anonymous
>>15544906 Trick Room or Sticky Web? or both?
Was planning on leading off with Smeargle. Putting niggas to sleep and setting up entry hazards.
Can't wait till December so i can get my Smeargle to learn Dark Void.
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>>15545060 Either. Have a sticky web user and a trick roomer and try both of them, though obviously not at once.
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>Bulky DDnite >CB aegislash w/ added shadow ball >Specs rotom-w anti-lead >Dual screens magic bounce espeon >Prankster sableye >Prankster klefki
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>>15545009 Im trying to use Scolipede with Weakness Policy personally, it opens Scolipede up for attacking when it needs to and you can pass your buffs off when you need to
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>>15545085 >>15545040 Thanks, gonna stick with Smeargle then. Spore, and then Spikes, SR and Sticky Web.
Maybe leave Spiks behind and teach it parting shot? That would be a cool move I guess. getting out of there safely and nerfing my oponents stats, maybe forcing a switch?
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>>15531870 why not have a furfrou that can wall both types with a focus on SpDef. his ability ruins physical attackers.
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>>15544961 Hmm I see, maybe I'm just a bit unlucky
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scizor - bullet punch, swords dance, roost, U-turn. adamant with metal coat, HP and Atk evs
Anonymous
>>15545128 thats interesting. do you find that you can still get around taunt users?
pls post EV spread and moves
Anonymous
What's better on Aegislash, max def or atk?
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>>15532373 if you don't have adaptability on drag, it's not worth trying to use it as a special attacker.
he could be a very annoying wall. Go with Toxic, Dragon Tail, Rest and protect or something like that to stall people out.
252 HP, 252 SpD.
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Smeargle (probably as lead)
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Anyone find any fun with Avalugg?
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>>15545696 He's pretty solid as a physical tank.
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greninja
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>Tyrantrum's Rock Head is finally on Showdown
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Should I run speed or HP EVs on my Scizor with attack?
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I was thinking of building a bulky attacker Hippowdon but I'm not sure which set is more viable. As far as I know, there isn't any way yet to get Slack Off to Hippo yet since you need a member of Slakoth or Chimchar family for that and neither can be found in X/Y so I had to come up with something else. Comments on these? Do they both suck?
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Galvantula w/Compound Eyes and Choice Scarf
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>>15545696 You should have seen that one replay that was posted here a couple of days ago. Fucking Avalugg, you have no idea:
>Survived a CRITICAL Focus Punch from Breloom >Survived a +4 (!!!) Sacred Sword from Aegislash >Finally survived an Earthquake from Dragonite when at below 50% health and made the opponent rage quit I'm telling you, there is NO WAY to get past Avalugg with physical moves. No fucking way.
Anonymous
>>15546228 Dark/Fight/Poison works out pretty well
except for gliscor obviously with my Scrafty. Though in his case, I have to be at +2 to OHKO with crunch and hope they don't sacred sword or king's shield...
Anonymous
>>15546228 Your RD setup would be very predictable and I think Breloom might shit on it. Wouldn't recommend Wish on the Flarion.
Anonymous
>>15546163 Have Smeargle sketch Slack Off from something like Slowpoke and then breed it with Hippowdon.
Anonymous
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>>15546371 Based fucking Smeargle
Anonymous
>>15546324 I haven't even seen Gliscor much this gen. It's crazy, but I'll still keep that in mind.
>>15546362 Rain Dance? I think I've got a fair amount of guys to handle Breloom if it should switch in on the rain. Noivern and Toxicroak resist both of its stabs, though admittedly I'm not sure if the latter would be able to outspeed after the switch in.
And you say no Wish because Flareon's HP is so shitty?
Anonymous
>>15546371 Holy crap, that's brilliant. What would be the best set with Slack Off? I was thinking something with mixed wall capabilities, like this:
Hippowdon @ Leftovers
252 Atk / 252 SDef / 4 HP
Careful nature
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge / Rock Slide
-Fire Fang
-Slack Off
Hippowdon has a nice physical bulk even without any EV investment so the 252 SDef EVs should help it taking special attacks. Viable or complete shit?
Anonymous
>>15546555 Why Fire Fang instead of Ice Fang? Other than that, that's definitely the set I'd recommend.
Anonymous
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>>15546537 Yeah, Noivern's probably enough.
Anonymous
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I'm trying to make a team with a bunch of my favorite pokemon from over the years who all get mega evolutions. Of course, I won't be using all the megas, but I want them all to have one just in case the situation arises.>Blaziken >Tyranitar >Gardevoir >Gyarados >Abomasnow >Gengar
Anonymous
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>>15546637 Fire Fang because:
>>15546163 >Fire Fang is chosen as the primary coverage move since it hits all the Pokemon that resist EdgeQuake (Breloom, Torterra, Chesnaught and Levitate Bronzong) for super effective damage, while also making it easier to get past Forretress, Ferrothorn and Scizor. Anonymous
>>15546537 Yeah, Gliscor's uncommon at the moment because its hidden ability is only obtainable via hordes and it takes a fair bit more effort to get than the usual Poke, (Battle Maison is the only place with Toxic Orb and the only place with Razor Fang with which to evolve it). Nothing impossible, but a lot of fucking around for something when there are easier and more readily obtainable alternatives.
Anonymous
>>15546900 >Yeah, Gliscor's uncommon at the moment because its hidden ability is only obtainable via hordes You have no idea. I still need to get the BP for a fang.
>>15545199 is me Anonymous
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I need help on my gogoat
Anonymous
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>>15527704 >check enemy team has no faeires or steels left >put a trick room >switch to adaptability dragalge wearing specs >dragon pulses fired and nothing survived, has worked pretty well for me on showdown OU
Anonymous
LOOK UPON MY WORKS, YE MIGHTY, AND DESPAIR:The Cinccino is something of a mascot, but it has been surprisingly effective thus far.
1160-9720-8822
>>15547190 Your team Rocks!
Anonymous
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>>15547190 what items are they holding?
Anonymous
>>15547190 Your team scares me into reconsidering my own.
Anonymous
>>15547190 You need a spinner.
Stargazer 1392-4166-2238 (Fraxure, Noibat, and Sliggoo)
Stargazer 1392-4166-2238 (Fraxure, Noibat, and Sliggoo) Sun 03 Nov 2013 17:46:06 No. 15547460 Report Quoted By:
>>15527836 Both of your walls are ice weak, and you only have Chandelure to tank it, and he's got crap defense stats. I'd suggest switching Gliscor maybe for Forretress or Ferrothorn, and then use it to bait fire attacks to switch Chandelure into.
Anonymous
>>15547317 This. Rapid Spin / Defog support is mandatory for a team where 3/6 are weak to pebbles. Replacing a couple of those Flying types with something else wouldn't hurt either.
Anonymous
What are some good special walls that won't die? My team is Forretress, Gliscor, Aegislash, Tentacruel, Goodra and Mega Gengar. Gliscor regenerates through everything physical, but the other walls have poor recovery.
Anonymous
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is there any way to get super fang on crobat this gen? Other than pokebank in december?
Anonymous
>>15547540 Assault vest ttar or goodra
Anonymous
First team.. Any recommendations?
Anonymous
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>>15547616 >Assault vest My goodra already only has attacking moves for type coverage. This sounds like a good idea.
Anonymous
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>>15547627 Cookie cutter the team.
Anonymous
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>>15547627 gengar should probably run dazzling gleam for coverage over thunderbolt, SD scizor shouldn't run u-turn bc it's counterproductive, use something like X-scissor instead
Anonymous
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>>15532373 A poison touch dragalge with no physical attacks.
You're looking for a poison point dragalge.
Anonymous
Nidoking @ Focus Sash
Anonymous
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>>15544507 Bump. I've replaced Mawile with SD+Roost Mega Scizor and now I'm weeping over the fact I can't use Superpower on it yet.
Anonymous
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how do i make a goodra
Anonymous
>>15547316 That bad, huh?
>>15547464 >>15547317 Okay, thanks guys. I'll get on that.
>>15546975 In the exact same boat. Need the fang, then I'm golden.
dem hordes, mang >>15547266 OH YOU
Anonymous
>>15548044 Why do u have a Sand Veil Garchomp eventhough u don't have a pokemon who can create a sand storm?
Anonymous
Is it possible to get giga drain on volcarona in x and y?
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>15548169 Didn't have a Gible with its hidden ability back then.
Anonymous
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>>15548260 you can't until pokebank
Anonymous
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>>15548260 I have psychic on there, but honestly its more of an accessible filler move. I dont think theres any good substitutes in XY.
Anonymous
>>15548044 Physical Nidoking is shit, special is the way to go. Although Nidoking has a slightly higher Attack than Special Attack, the boost from Sheer Force and Life Orb make it much better as a special attacker. Educate yourself:
http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/nidoking I also think it's a bit pointless to have two physical Dragons that are both 4x weak to Ice. Some versatility would be nice.
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette]
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette] Sun 03 Nov 2013 18:18:01 No. 15548567 Report Quoted By:
So my main sweeper right now is Charizard-X due to his dragon dance. The problem I'm having is that I need a real spinner or defog user for the team and I can't figure out what to use.
Anonymous
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bold Klefki question.
Anonymous
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Mega-Kangaskhan/Nidoking/Trevenant
Anonymous
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>>15548435 Even after Nidoking's Attack boost this gen?
Anonymous
Is Trick Room a viable solution to making Mawile faster I've tried Tailwind but that leads to my Talonflame getting Ko'd instantly
Anonymous
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how's this for barbacle?>Shell smash >Stone edge >Razor shell >x-scissor/poison jab/cross chop/EQ
Anonymous
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>>15548770 Save the tailwind for WHEN your talonflame is going to die anyway. Then you can just drop your mawile in with no problems.
Anonymous
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>Playing a nipp on wifi >Start with togekiss >He switches in tyranitard, I paralyze him. >Continue to spam air slash after air slash >After over 10 turns of constant air slash, tyranitar is finally in the red, flinching on every single turn >He forfeits the match
Anonymous
Did Gen 6 introduce any Rapid Spinners of note
Anonymous
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>>15549373 Avalugg has it. Don't know if he uses it well.
Anonymous
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Are there good spinblockers this gen?
Anonymous
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>>15535511 >mega mewtwo X vs
Talonflame @ Choice Band
Adamant
252Atk/252speed/4 HP
-Brave Bird
-U-turn
-Flare Blitz
-Steel Wing
Depending on the opponent's team you could literally lead with talonflame and wreck
up to half a team. Anonymous
Anonymous
Is Gourgeist viable?
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette]
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette] Sun 03 Nov 2013 19:13:33 No. 15550734 Report Quoted By:
Hey guys, weird question, but how viable would a bulky spinner Excadrill be? It saw some fringe play when it was forced into Ubers, so now that it will probably be OU I want to try it out. Does anyone know if he can get Knock Off as an egg move as well?
Anonymous
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best ability for heliolisk? Don't have a specific team made but what's generally the best? dry skin?
Anonymous
>>15550686 I've wanted to try a Super size gourgeist for shadow sneak, but yeah I don't think either are too great competitively.
Anonymous
>>15550686 Trevenant is okay with harvest. Give it a lum berry and rest.
Anonymous
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>>15550686 From what I've seen the viable forms are Super Size and Small. People really don't mention the middle two.
Super Size can be used as a general attacker with Seed Bomb and Shadow Sneak. Small can be used as a Sub-Seeder with enough speed and bulk to do its job well. Also it can learn a handful of fire moves so it can use Fire Blast to hit Forretress/Ferrothorn, and Super Size can use a Trick Room/Explosion combo to set up for its teammates and dent something in the process.
Anonymous
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>>15550872 >>15550886 Thats really gay, I need a good Spin Blocker for my team but I'd rather not use Aegislash.
LC guy
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I'm here for little cup advice!
Anonymous
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>>15532286 Use it to baton pass. It can pass Nasty Plot, and that's curazeh nigga.
Anonymous
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>>15550551 I-I really like your team... Anonymous
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I'm wanting to run a Mega Aggron and a Hydreigon on the same team.
Anonymous
How would you guys improve this team?Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
Anonymous
2122-6546-4354 Kirballs1 [Combee,Masquerain,Pinsir]
2122-6546-4354 Kirballs1 [Combee,Masquerain,Pinsir] Sun 03 Nov 2013 20:50:52 No. 15554729 Report Quoted By:
>>15528140 >Greninja Tmid w Expert Belt/Life Orb >252 Sp.A/252 Spd/4 HP >-Ice Beam >-Grass Knot >-Surf >-U-Turn >Noivern Timid w Life Orb/Choice Specs >252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd/4 Sp. Def >-Draco Meteor >-Flamethrower >Air Slash >-Boomburst/Roost >Mawile Adamant Mega Evo >252 Atk/252 Hp/4 Sp.Def >-Taunt >-Iron Head >-Play Rough >-Sucker-Punch >Ditto Impostor Relaxed w Choice Scarf >252 HP/4 Def/252 Spd >Aegislash Brave w Leftovers >252/Atk/252 HP/4 Sp.Def 0 Speed IVs >-King's Shield >-Shadow Sneak >-Swords Dance >-Sacred Sword >Tyranitar Adamant w Assault Vest >252 HP/252 Atk/4 Sp. Def >-Quake >-Stone Miss >-Pursuit >Fireblast >Fixed I won't go into detail but this set would be more consistent in the long run.
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette]
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette] Sun 03 Nov 2013 20:53:56 No. 15554858 Report >>15554364 why would you lock yourself into 3 types? That isn't a balance team, and you will lose games because of it. Even a weather team can't be so single-minded and expect to win consistently in the long run.
That being said, Excadrill under sand is still GG and your Mega Garchomp EVs are probably wrong. The only reason to go Mega Garchomp is for the increased bulk since it lowers your speed, so you'll want to invest in HP instead of Speed I think or just go with the standard Sand Veil Chomp with Life Orb or Choice Band, especially because the new weather rules kinda mess up his new ability from actually giving him much extra damage.
Anonymous
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>>15554858 >why would you lock yourself into 3 types? For fun.
It's not to be super competitive, it's for fun and playing with friends.
Anonymous
>>15554858 >sand veil chomp But that's banned you doofus
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette]
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette] Sun 03 Nov 2013 21:00:11 No. 15555084 Report >>15554944 Nothing is banned right now, bro. If we're following banned, Excadrill was banned to Uber as well last gen.
Anonymous
>>15555084 >What is evasion clause Anonymous
Guys, I absolutly love M-Manectric. He just doesn't seem to be useful at all. What would he be decent at? I dont want to have it as just a filler role.
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette]
Robert 0473-7776-0862 [Spritzee, Togepi, Floette] Sun 03 Nov 2013 21:08:02 No. 15555359 Report >>15555115 Evasion Clause - A Pokemon may not have the moves Double Team or Minimize in its moveset.
They did ban it in OU for last gen, but it was allowed in Ubers. I don't think it was cleared up for this gen yet.
Edas FC 3067 4825 6521
im trying to do a physical wall gliscor and 3 questions came up to me (i dont take credit for the moveset or anything)
Edas FC 3067 4825 6521
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>>15556451 meant EVs in the 2nd question
Joshiii
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>>15555359 Who knows ,That weather nerf effects things
If im not mistakin
Joshiii
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>>15556451 that poison heal n toxix orb
Anonymous
>>15555299 MegaManectric seems like it would be good for doubles, since it can switch in and absorb Thunderwaves with Lightningrod and then have Intimidate activate - meanwhile you set up rain/sun and blast away with Thunder/Flamethrower. I'm not sure how I would use it in singles, though.
Anonymous
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>>15555299 Run it in a bulky volt-turn core with Scizor and Landorus-I. Run a setup sweeper or two that can take advantage of the momentum/-Attack mons Intimidate grants.
>>15556451 The moveset is standard. Roost is likely not needed since you're running Poison Heal Gliscor (which you are, right) and can either use Substitute or another move in its place.
Honestly, it's really standard, so just use the Smogon gen 5 set.
Toxic Orb, of course. If you aren't running Poison Heal Gliscor on a physical wall Gliscor, you aren't using it right.
Anonymous
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>>15556782 Ah! That is perfect! Thanks dude. Didn't think about doubles.
Anonymous
Could you guys perhaps give me some ideas?
mat- 4682 9894 5615 (ariados kakuna muk)
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>>15533160 nothing to say but im jealous, im trying to get a shiny one today. i want to used moody too and see how it goes. i was thinking mixed attacker with protect and just go with whatever stats youre getting boosted
Anonymous
Could you guys perhaps give me some ideas?
Anonymous
Asking again.
Anonymous
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>>15556927 >>15556973 No idea why this happened, it told me it got the captcha wrong the first time.
Anonymous
>>15557082 I've heard good things about Trevenant, maybe try him out.
>>15556973 Maybe... Dragon Claw for STAB, Poison Fang for Fairies, Earthquake for Steels, and a filler (Fire Fang for Skarmory and Ferrothorn, Dragon Dance for those free turns, Stealth Rock for the helluvit, or something else).
Anonymous
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Any idea what kind of teammates a charizard x uses well in 3's?
Anonymous
>>15557368 My bad, Fire Fang is probably better over Earthquake, but I dunno how big the boost from Strong Jaw is.
Ellis 1607-2348-9941 Y Grass- Sunkern, Sawsbuck, Maractus
Ellis 1607-2348-9941 Y Grass- Sunkern, Sawsbuck, Maractus Sun 03 Nov 2013 22:12:57 No. 15557515 Report My team currently is
Anonymous
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>>15557082 >Using hazards kek
Anonymous
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>>15557510 It makes it as if it were STAB.
Anonymous
>>15557368 Hmmm, well the Treeman IS awesome. But his stats seem so.....mediocre..
I hoped he'd be really bulky since...you know, he's a fucking TREE.
Anonymous
>raise a team of my favs >have a roughly 1:1 ratio online >play friend in 6v6 >lose horribly >Garchomp, Mega Kanga, Gale Force Talonflame, the whole shebang >"Dude stop using those guys they suck" >Whatever man I like my favorites >"That's the talk of a loser. You want to win right?" >It's just a game man >He spams my with how to build the most cookie cutter shit conceivable >Just ignoring him until he calms down
Anonymous
I want to build a team around my
Anonymous
http://pastebin.com/5cxMS63c Special Battle team for Season 1. Delphox is a new addition but may be promising to handle things like Klefki and Gourgeist.
What's the ruleset for the usual rated Singles/Doubles? Haven't given them a look yet.
Anonymous
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>>15557515 Your suicide forretress will die setting up hazards and then those hazards will just disappear because you have no spin blocker
Anonymous
>>15557668 for starters it's 3v3
Indrid 1950-8057-0667 [Poison,???]
for goodra i was thinking on having it have:
Anonymous
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>>15545200 I doubt you are here still but...
188 HP
252 Attack
68 Speed
Megahorn
Poison Jab
Baton Pass
Superpower
Taunt doesn't bother me much, since its more of a late game option. I usually have to baton pass it out and due to weakness policy I can do so with either a special or physical attacker so Im not getting screwed over if I did just Swords Dance but I only have Special attackers left
Anonymous
>>15557617 The set I've seen for him the most is Shadow Claw/Horn Leech/Will-o-Wisp/Leech Seed, and I'd imagine the latter three would make him pretty damn bulky.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>15557731 Doesn't stop you from using a team of six.
Anonymous
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>>15557731 Item clause and set to level 50? I assume certain mons are restricted from use as well?
Anonymous
How do people feel about Aegislash for competitive?
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>15557838 It's good, but laughably predictable once you've had a few battles with them.
Anonymous
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>>15557838 Everyone will hate you until they stop bitcing and actually look for a counter
Anonymous
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>>15557838 Even my in-game one with a +speed -defense nature destroyed people when the game first came out and nobody knew what to do against it.
Once people know about it, though, I don't think it'll be very good because it's so predictable. Status shuts it down because King's Shield doesn't protect against it.
Anonymous
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>>15557838 When it comes to those, i usually just switch pokemon. it goes into sword mode, does some damage then its usually ohko'd with a special attack
Alebon 1864-8942-2029
So, guys. I run a Steel type gym at my University. I need help figuring out how to make Mega Aggron work. All advice is welcome.
Anonymous
>>15557758 > That moveset Damn, WoW AND Leech Seed? And Horn Leech is a physical Giga Drain right? That's pretty interesting. And with Shadowclaw and Horn leech he has pretty nice covereage and covers my Nidoking and mega Kangaskhan well.
Anon, I think you have just finished my core
What nature and EVs should I run on this guy?
Anonymous
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How viable do you guys think Trick or Treat is in singles?
Anonymous
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>>15557838 Are people still discussing whether to go adamant with full speed or whether to go 0 speed IV?
Anonymous
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Khan has kinda ruined the game for me. I either lose, or the other guy forfeits.
Anonymous
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>>15557644 A tanky Unaware Quagsire might help for if (when) your opponent ever gets through the confusion with their Atk boost intact, and he'd help with Klefki's Fire weakness. Not sure about a third, though.
Anonymous
>>15557985 >I run a Steel type gym at my University That sounds like fun, I am jelly
Anonymous
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>>15557990 > kangaskhan > nidonking > trevenant I hope this is a UU team Anon. This team doesn't stand a chance in hell in the OU environment.
Anonymous
>>15557985 Most aggrons i go against have a mixture of
-thunder wave
-heavy slam
-double edge
-dragon tail
Anonymous
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EV training concept question, I get that putting EVs into a pokemon's best stats is a good way to build generic sweepers/tanks but I've been wondering what EVs are good under what scenarios for more niche pokemon like dual screens Serperior or various other support pokes/ bulky sweepers. I'm also wondering about HP EVs, are they really that usable? It seems to me that they're just extra HP points while putting stuff into actual defense seems more effective. Thoughts?
Anonymous
>>15557985 I'm jealous, I wish I could be a gym leader
I hope you represent your steel type visually. Your clothes should be make of steel.
Anonymous
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>>15558084 I was thinking of creating a meta game group of 8 trainers to run gyms for /VP/
Would be fun. Could have a special image set up with badgesets for people who beat the gym leaders.
Maybe you'll see a thread when I set it all up and can take part :)
Alebon 1864-8942-2029
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>>15558084 >>15558124 It is pretty fun. And I will sometimes RP this shit in a grey suit if I have more than one challenger at a time. No joke.
>>15558090 That's good, I'll work off of that. I'll probably use the Thunder Wave, and I'll consider Double Edge. I'll almost definitely use Dragon Tail if I can get it without breeding.
Anonymous
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playing around with this idea for a physical wall
Anonymous
>>15557990 Yeah, Horn Leech is basically physical Giga Drain, 75 base power.
As for nature and EVs, I'm not exactly sure. I'd go with either Impish and max HP/Def for a full-on physical tank, or Careful with HP/SpDef or HP/mostly SpDef/a bit of Def and have WoW cover his physical side.
Edas FC 3067 4825 6521
how does this sound? Heracross with assault vest
Anonymous
>>15558384 Dies to areal ace?
Anonymous
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>>15556973 Do one with Brick Break.
I want to see a Tyrantrum making Brick Break work.
Edas FC 3067 4825 6521
Nico 4570-6971-6045 - Frogadier, Bibarel, Floatzel
Nico 4570-6971-6045 - Frogadier, Bibarel, Floatzel Sun 03 Nov 2013 22:39:23 No. 15558572 Report What is a good Klefki support role?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15558266 And what item? Harvest seems interesting with a Sitrus Berry. or I could also just go Lefties.
Anonymous
So I want to make a Trick Room team but the Steel/Psychics getting hit by Ghost and Dark moves just makes it so god damn hard to have any kind of resistances between your room setters. I was trying to find Roomers that have good offensive presence to threaten so that people won't set up on them or have some form of recovery to be able to come in again and again. Thinking about Slowbro/king and I'm obligated to use Reuniclus, but is Mega-Banette any good? It's frail as fuck and I don't really see it getting off more than one Trick Room and its movepool is more like a movepuddle.
Indrid 1950-8057-0667 [Poison,???]
Anonymous
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>>15558659 Or maybe a Big Root? Seems gimmicky, but it sgould give me nice healing with leech Seed and Horn leech.
Anonymous
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>>15558384 Basically your only reason for not using Mega Heracross on a defensive/bulky set is because you have leftovers recovery over Mega. Don't squander that.
Either run full offense with choice/burn orb, or capitalize on the recovery the mega can't get instead with sub, because if you're just gonna boost that incredibly mediocre special defense, you're a lot better off running mega and getting a physical defense boost as well.
Anonymous
I bred 7 pokemon to use in online singles. Is this the right place to bring up a "rate my team sort of thing?"
Anonymous
>>15558572 Dual Screens Klefki. Reflect, Light Screen, Toxic/Thunder Wave, Foul Play.
>>15558659 Go with Harvest if you're feeling lucky with that 50% chance, otherwise Leftovers with Natural Cure to make sure he can't be Toxic'd.
Nico 4570-6971-6045 - Frogadier, Bibarel, Floatzel
Nico 4570-6971-6045 - Frogadier, Bibarel, Floatzel Sun 03 Nov 2013 22:48:24 No. 15558927 Report >>15558820 What EV spread?
Anonymous
>>15558818 Yes.
>>15558672 Gourgeist might make a decent Trick Room-setter with stuff like Will-o-Wisp and Explosion.
Anonymous
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>>15558672 >Thinking about Slowbro/king They have regenerator, go for it. Shit's literally perfect for what you want.
>and I'm obligated to use Reuniclus, Technically not obligated if you have at least two or three. It's just really good at that.
>but is Mega-Banette any good? It's frail as fuck and I don't really see it getting off more than one Trick Room and its movepool is more like a movepuddle. >Anyone have any experience with Mega-Banette? That huge attack, combined with shadow sneak and sucker punch, and go first even if your opponent is slower in trick room, priority will-o-wisp/thunder wave to fuck over any opponents, Mega Banette is pretty deadly.
Anonymous
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Should I use protect or camouflage on Zygarde?
Anonymous
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>>15558927 I go with max HP and as close as I can get to even defenses, so he can take a hit from both sides. I think mine has something like 252 HP/84 Def/168 SpDef with Bold.
Anonymous
>>15558672 Mega Mawile would be fun in a Trick Room team.
Or mega aggron
Anonymous
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>>15559214 I think I'm going to give Mega-Mawile a shot if Mega-Banette doesn't work out, which I'm still skeptical about. She does get Sucker Punch and Shadow Sneak, but it pretty much leaves me walled against any dark type. I think my best bet is to Will-O-Wisp those.
Anonymous
How does this Nidoking sound?
Anonymous
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I still haven't beat x/y
Anonymous
>>15558940 Alright, my 7 bred mons are
Aegislash - Offesive Pivot
Quiet - Life Orb - 252 Atk/SpA 6 Hp
Shadow Ball
Shadow Sneak
Iron Head
Sacred Sword
Hydregeion Special Sweeper(?) (works best with hit-and-run tactics)
Modest - Choice Specs - 4 Hp 252 SpA 252 Spe
Draco Meteor
Surf
Focus Blast
Flamethrower
Gliscor - Physical Wall
Impish - Toxic Orb - 252 Hp 218 Def 40 Spe
Earthquake
Roost
Ice Fang
Taunt
Noivern - Utility/Revenge Killer
Timid - Leftovers - 6 Hp 252 SpA 252 Spe
Draco Meteor
Super Fang
Air Slash
Flamethrower
Tyranitar - Special Wall
Adamant - Assault Vest - 252 Hp 252 Def 6 Atk
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Pursuit
Dragon Tail/Roar
Scizor - Physical Priority
Adamant - Choice Band - 252 HP 252 Atk 6 SpD
Bullet Punch
Quick Attack
U-Turn
Aerial Ace
Gengar - Special Sweeper
Timid - Gengarite - 4 Hp 252 SpA 252 Spe
Anonymous
>>15559706 Woops
Gengar runs:
Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Anonymous
>>15559763 replace Focus Miss with Dazzling Gleam.
Anonymous
>>15559822 You know, I keep thinking about it, but I've had more problem with shit that keels over to Miss than Dazzling Gleam.
Anonymous
>>15559891 is that possible SE really more valuable than guarateed dargon coverage though?
Anonymous
>>15559987 I have dragon coverage on my two other dragons. Unless something is running a scarf or using a wall build, Noivern can usually 1-shot them with Draco Meteor, let alone the Hydregion.
Aaron 4167-5332-5548 (Water: Wartortle, Octilery, Polliwhirl)
Aaron 4167-5332-5548 (Water: Wartortle, Octilery, Polliwhirl) Sun 03 Nov 2013 23:21:49 No. 15560189 Report Quoted By:
First ever team i've made. The idea is to para and burn everybody I can, while inducing confusion rage, then doing what I can with Talon Flame and Cloyster, then with whoever is left from that, use the two tricks on them so they will be locked into a single move, then cleaning up with M-Gengar, who will use sub to bait an attack, then disable, and they'll be trapped by him. So they will struggle to death as I wail on them. Sludge bomb on gengar for fairy types. Feedback please!
Anonymous
>>15560121 thats not the point i was making. the coverage given specifically to Gengar (that wont miss) versus the coverage given to Gengar (that misses so much that it has miss in its nickname), is what you need to take into consideration
Anonymous
>>15559706 Looks like the team has a pretty big Ice weakness, and the only two pokemon on the team who resist Water aren't very bulky, not to mention how Water-types love to carry Ice moves.
>>15560121 So you're fine with your MegaGengar being destroyed by Garchomps?
Anonymous
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>>15560240 Ah, now I get what you mean. I suppose I'll have to try it out and see how it works out.
Anonymous
>>15559385 Anyone?
Also, who's a good revenge killer in this game?
Anonymous
>>15560553 Talonflame is fantastic, and I like Noivern a lot too.
Anonymous
So I'm building a team with favorites, but I don't know if I should use Klefki or Aegislashit is a casual team so i alrady know about sneaky pebbles, thank you in advance though
Anonymous
>>15560695 With all those heavy-hitters already, a dual screens Klefki would help a lot more than yet another sweeper.
Anonymous
>>15560695 I would go with klefki. Support is seriously so helpful in this. You could even use a smeargle instead to get rocks and sticky web. The speed drop helps so much.
Klefki @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 Def / 248 HP / 8 Atk
Impish Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Swagger
- Substitute
- Foul Play
Anonymous
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>>15560298 I haven't had too much of a problem with Ice attacks since I can switch over to Tyranitar, who can tank like a motherfucker. I've seen him survive two STAB focus blasts, so only physical Ice moves are a big deal.
As for the garchop wrecking my gengar, well, I actually don't run him all that often, and the few times he's faced a garchomp, they almost always go for EQ, giving me a free turn to switch to Noivern who can either kill it outright, or setup gengar for a revenge kill. Alternatively, attacking the garchomp can setup Noivern for the kill.
Unless its ScarfChomp. Those things wreck my shit.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15560599 And what about that Nidoking set?
Anonymous
>>15561164 nidoking runs better physical, but if you want special, i see no problem with it.
Anonymous
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>>15561342 > nidoking > better physical U wot m8
