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Jack: 2208-5249-4924 Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:37:04 No.15539302 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15539373 >>15539383 >>15539418 >>15539464 >>15546301

Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyssssssssssssssssss

252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP

or

252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spd

Brave Bird / Flare Blitz / U Turn / Roost

Life Orb or Flying Gem?

Hallllllllp

Jack: 2208-5249-4924

Jack: 2208-5249-4924 Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:39:01 No.15539324 Report

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b-b-b-b-bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:39:59 No.15539332 Report

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there are no flying gems

so life orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:40:18 No.15539336 Report

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Speed is more important than HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:41:15 No.15539350 Report

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i go with max speed because I want to outspeed EVERYTHING. even priority users such as Aegislash, Scizor, Lucario, and of course other talonflames.
And don't use life orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:43:02 No.15539373 Report

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>>15539302
The Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:43:32 No.15539383 Report

Quoted By: >>15539422

>>15539302
swords dance is better than roost IMO. It can become a threatening sweeper if you put it against something that can't hurt it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:44:50 No.15539405 Report

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*Mainly wanting advice on the spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:46:01 No.15539418 Report

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>>15539302
>not using based Band Bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:46:15 No.15539422 Report

Quoted By: >>15539426 >>15539464

>>15539383
nah, keep roost. loose u-turn. u-turn is convenient but non-priority and non-stab. running away is not what talonflame is about. it's a killer. roost lets it kill for longer and sd lets it kill harder. u-turn doesn't do shit for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:47:07 No.15539426 Report

Quoted By: >>15539475 >>15545395

>>15539422
>not doing U-turn/Volt switch tricks all day erry day with a Rotom-W

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:47:30 No.15539436 Report

Quoted By: >>15539495

Talonflame @ Choice Band
252 atk / 252 HP / 4 spe
- Flare Blitz
- Brave bird
- U-Turn
- Steel wing

Only Talonflame set that isn't Pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:47:56 No.15539441 Report

Quoted By: >>15539491

I maxed EVs for SpAtt and Speed with my Alakazam plus put 4 into HP but the bar still isn't filled.
What did I do wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:49:54 No.15539464 Report

Quoted By: >>15539495 >>15539724 >>15541157

>>15539302
>>15539422
Don't bother with HP or Roost. Talonflame isn't meant to tank things. Also more HP just means more recoil damage from brave bird. If you don't put speed, you can't outspeed and flare blitz/u-turn everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:50:37 No.15539475 Report

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>>15539426
once you get talonflame in play you want to keep it there as long as possible. stealth rocks take half of it's hp. it's not something you can easily switch in and out. also why would you do that when you can just kill things like it is meant to do. priority brave bird kills everything. using u-turn is a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:52:23 No.15539491 Report

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>>15539441
there are 2 more evs. max evs is 510

252x2 = 504 + 4 = 508.

you can put them in anything. hp is usually what i do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:52:25 No.15539495 Report

Quoted By: >>15539529 >>15539563

>>15539436
Op here.

Taking >>15539464's advice, how does this sound?

Talonflame @ Choice Band
252 atk / 252 spe / 4 HP
- Flare Blitz
- Brave bird
- U-Turn
- Steel wing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:55:03 No.15539529 Report

Quoted By: >>15539575 >>15539613

>>15539495
that's the only set you should use
it's the one i use too, use it as lead. can get a few KOs
http://pastebin.com/piVhnRwY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:57:11 No.15539563 Report

Quoted By: >>15539575

>>15539495
Enjoy using one of the best counter-sweepers and revenge killers currently available.

Q5VW-WWWW-WWW2-5lT6

Band bird is best bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 11:57:46 No.15539575 Report

Quoted By: >>15539644

>>15539529
>>15539563

Awesome. Thanks everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:00:59 No.15539613 Report

Quoted By: >>15539644 >>15539676

>>15539529
>leading with talonflame

who are you fighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:03:04 No.15539644 Report

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>>15539613
Would depend on enemy team comp. I do it occasionally as it scares the fuck out of people. There's also people who underestimate it and think you're using an in-game bird...

>>15539575
You're welcome OP. Enjoy the new favourite that'll take you by surprise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:05:20 No.15539676 Report

Quoted By: >>15539759

>>15539613
i have more
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WCnAQVA3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:08:40 No.15539724 Report

Quoted By: >>15541077

>>15539464
>Also more HP just means more recoil damage from brave bird

You've got this wrong. Brave Bird does 1/3rd the damage done to the enemy to Talonflame, so more HP means you can take more recoil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:11:51 No.15539759 Report

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>>15539676
>http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WCnAQVA3

the guy kept his ferrothorn in on your talonflame? the reason you won this battle is because you were fighting a 6 year old.

>talonflame with sucker punch
>talonflame with flying gem

stop fucking around

dawg 4184 2489 5214

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dawg 4184 2489 5214 Sun 03 Nov 2013 12:15:06 No.15539797 Report

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mine is

Talonflame (turbo lel)
galewings
Lifeorb
252atk 252speed 6 hp

Brave Bird
Flare blitz
Swordsdance
Me-first

The funny thing about running 252 speed is that you can outspeed mega mawiles sucker-punch with bravebird and hit it, when mawile now trys to use sucker punch it fails since you're not preparing an attack.
Best part is you can set up a sword dance or switch in for free into suckerpunchs and then kill them easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 13:46:15 No.15541077 Report

Quoted By: >>15541127

>>15539724
After 2 hours of EV training in Speed I see this comment and it makes me want to cry.

252 Atk / 252 Sped / 4 HP is still ok.. right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 13:49:23 No.15541127 Report

Quoted By: >>15541159

>>15541077
>2 hours of EV training

i'm in my second run and I finished EV training a noibat in like 30 minutes. I'm not even at the 7th gym!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 13:51:09 No.15541157 Report

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>>15539464
>Also more HP just means more recoil damage from brave bird
That's not how it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 13:51:11 No.15541159 Report

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>>15541127
Yeah, I was watching a movie at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 13:56:38 No.15541237 Report

Quoted By: >>15541276 >>15541402

Talonflame @ Focus sash
252 atk / 252 spe / 4 HP
- Acrobatics
- Flare Blitz
- U-Turn/Roost
- Swords Dance

Switch in on something with a water/electric/rock move, get your free swords dance while they try to kill you, lose your focus sash and suddenly your Acrobatics is a 2xBrave Bird with no recoil damage. Very high risk but pretty rewarding when dat sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 13:58:01 No.15541276 Report

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>>15541237
If you're switching in, your focus sash breaks wouldnt it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 14:05:23 No.15541402 Report

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>>15541237
sucker punch is a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 16:45:39 No.15545395 Report

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>>15539426
Scizor makes a better VoltTurn partner for Rotom-W

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 17:14:10 No.15546301 Report

Quoted By: >>15546453

>>15539302
>HP on Talonflame
Yeah right. Go Speed, the thing ain't surviving a turn.

Ditch Roost, add another coverage move.

No flying gems in the game, go for either Life Orb or Choice Band.

/thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 17:18:23 No.15546453 Report

Quoted By: >>15547546 >>15548069

>>15546301
Don't need speed if you've got Gale Wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 17:48:52 No.15547546 Report

Quoted By: >>15548069

>>15546453
Gale Wings gives +1 priority to Flying moves.

All the moves on the same priority tier need Speed to check which one goes first.

If you want to outspeed Aegislash's Shadow Sneak, Mega Mawile's Sucker Punch or Scizor's Bullet Punch/Quick Attack, you NEED speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2013 18:05:04 No.15548069 Report

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>>15546453
>>15547546

A list of what you need to outspeed:

.- Prankster set-ups (Klefki, Mega Banette, Sableye, Whimsicott, etc). I was unable to set up Thunder Wave with my Klefki on a battle against a +Spd Gale Wings Talonflame. Consider that.

.- +1 Priority Moves (Ally Switch, Aqua Jet, Bide, Bullet Punch, Ice Shard, Mach Punch, Quick Attack, Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, Vacuum Wave, etc).

.- Other Gale Wings Talonflames (most of which won't have Spd inverstment because HURRR EVERYTHING IS PRIORITIES)

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