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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 06:55:31 No.15576248 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15577231 >>15580497 >>15580518 >>15580910 >>15583625 >>15583701

How do I kill it? This guy sweeps teams. Fucking GF can't into confusion hit percentages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 06:57:07 No.15576277 Report

Quoted By: >>15576360

Get a super fast pokemon with flamethrower/earthquake or any shit like that. Then you're good to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 06:57:17 No.15576285 Report

Quoted By: >>15576360 >>15576391

I primarily use a Trick Room team in 3v3 so I've yet to encounter the horrors everyone is facing from this key-ring and the Great Khan pair. That or I've just been paired up with some shitty players in ranked matching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 06:59:32 No.15576360 Report

Quoted By: >>15576406 >>15576442

>>15576277
>>15576285

Prankster gives it priority, otherwise my Greninja with Taunt would just outspeed it. How do I deal with that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:00:41 No.15576391 Report

Quoted By: >>15576512

>>15576285

What's the Great Khan pair like? Is it really that good? Because Klefki is going straight to fucking Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:00:43 No.15576393 Report

Quoted By: >>15576466

A faster Prankster with TrickScarf. Which would only leave Meowstic.

This guy's a better Sableye.
Good luck with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:01:06 No.15576398 Report

Quoted By: >>15576469

Own Tempo anything. Enjoy your free attack boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:01:22 No.15576406 Report

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>>15576360
Pray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:02:49 No.15576442 Report

Quoted By: >>15576483

>>15576360

Klefki sets up Reflect/Light Screen/Spikes, muh Slowbro sets up Trick Room. Next turn: Fire Blast, or swap to Mega Mawile if the situation demands based on team preview. No troubles yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:03:38 No.15576466 Report

Quoted By: >>15576506

>>15576393
What about a Taunt from Prankster Whimsicott?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:03:45 No.15576469 Report

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>>15576398
Enjoy eating a T-Wave

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:04:23 No.15576483 Report

Quoted By: >>15576587

>>15576442

You're playing a different set than I am. Try:

Swagger
into Thunder Wave
Sub up
Foul Play until dead
heal up with Leftovers
Rinse, repeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:05:18 No.15576506 Report

Quoted By: >>15576666

>>15576466
Not available yet. And M-Banette will at best speed tie with it. Then it's just going to get its shit wrecked with Foul Play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:05:24 No.15576512 Report

Quoted By: >>15580637

>>15576391

The only problems I've had with Mega Kangaskhan is that its Fake-Out wastes a turn of my Trick Room set-up; other than that and the occasional Sucker Punch, thing is just barely putting a dent into my Mega Mawile's HP. I can see how it would be a main in the ass for other teams, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:07:47 No.15576587 Report

Quoted By: >>15576812

>>15576483

Oh no, I've encountered that same set; it's just not as noteworthy because either 50% of the time I'll get a minor dent in HP from confusion or I'll just successfully set up Trick Room and immediately swap to Mega Mawile. Foul Play is a joke to Steel/Fairy types.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:11:14 No.15576666 Report

Quoted By: >>15577289 >>15577520

>>15576506
Well shit. I know this belongs in an X/Y hate thread, but really getting annoyed with how NPCs have mons I gotta wait for.
>tfw NPCs have Whimsicott and I can't have on of my own
>tfw NPC had a Cherubi and I can't have one of my own

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:15:12 No.15576752 Report

Quoted By: >>15576845 >>15576850 >>15576921

>magnet pull
>immune to paralysis
>low attack; high defense
>eviolite
Klefki just has to pray for the confusion going its way, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:16:31 No.15576778 Report

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i use quagsire. immune to t-wave + shitty SpA so foul play is useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:18:21 No.15576812 Report

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>>15576587

But doesn't Huge Power just cause the M-Mawile to three-shot itself in confusion? Foul Play isn't even necessary. I'm surprised you haven't had trouble with this. I once saw some dudes Scizor, followed by his Dragonite, followed by his Volcarona, all KO themselves from a fucking Klefki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:20:00 No.15576845 Report

Quoted By: >>15576921

>>15576752

I do have a Magnet Pull Magnezone... This isn't a half bad idea. It feels like the confusion is enough on its own, sometimes. 50% my ass. More like 75.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:20:15 No.15576850 Report

Quoted By: >>15577087

>>15576752
That's interesting, but can it kill it quickly enough? Klefki can run Recycle ChestoRest if it wants recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:24:23 No.15576921 Report

Quoted By: >>15576943

>>15576752
>eviolite
>>15576845

Okay so, say I already have a Magnet Stone. What do I put on my Magnezone to assist in countering Klefki? Maybe a Lum Berry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:25:44 No.15576943 Report

Quoted By: >>15576992

>>15576921

Why did I say Magnet Stone? I have a MAGNEZONE. I'm tripping balls on prescription narcotics right now, don't mind me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:28:02 No.15576992 Report

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>>15576943

I'm procrastinating by browsing /vp/ whilst simultaneously "studying"; god, I wish I had some ADD medications right now...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:30:48 No.15577068 Report

Quoted By: >>15577140

ITT: Not using a Taunt Glisgor, losing to shit like Klefki

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:31:37 No.15577087 Report

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>>15576850
Magneton can 2hko Klefki with Thunderbolt if Magneton is +sp.atk with 252 in Sp.Atk and if Klefki is Bold with everything dumped into HP and Def.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:33:14 No.15577140 Report

Quoted By: >>15577255

>>15577068

Gliscor doesn't have Prankster. It will just kill itself in confusion. Seriously, you may have gotten lucky once, but you'll get yours soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:33:58 No.15577158 Report

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I got a klefki in a wt with the move fairy lock,something I actually had not heard of.

Would there be any merit in using
>Twave
>Fairy Lock
>Swagger
>Foul play x2
>Rinse repeat,hope they dont get lucky while healing with leftovers

I mean of course subbing is the better way to go but if you wanted to go full gimmick you could use the lock to just have your opponent sit there and twiddle their thumbs while the parafuse hax fuck with everything they have

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:35:10 No.15577186 Report

Quoted By: >>15577316 >>15584567

Magic Bounce is a solid counter to Klefki and will almost always make them switch out.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oubeta-60276325

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:36:24 No.15577215 Report

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Gliscor with defog completely shuts it down

yukio 0920-0223-6059

yukio 0920-0223-6059 Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:37:10 No.15577231 Report

Quoted By:

>>15576248
I have been running lum berry lead with earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:37:55 No.15577251 Report

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It does feel like confusion hits more often than last gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:38:00 No.15577255 Report

Quoted By: >>15577333

>>15577140
No, you use taunt with Lum Berry. You don't need Leftovers since you got Roost. Don't be a dumbfuck, there is a team preview, use it. If you see Klefki, more than likely they will use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:39:30 No.15577289 Report

Quoted By: >>15577332 >>15577336

>>15576666
Wonder trade is going to be so good once pokebank opens.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:40:54 No.15577316 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577186
>that ragequit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:41:49 No.15577332 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577289
And I will have have 5 boxes of shitmons waiting when Pokebank goes live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:41:50 No.15577333 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577255

That's good. I want to do this now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:41:54 No.15577336 Report

Quoted By: >>15577371 >>15577498 >>15577575 >>15581344

>>15577289

Too bad everything else will become shit. Farewell, balanced BattleSpot without shitty hacked Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:43:03 No.15577361 Report

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Prankster Meowstic with safeguard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:43:33 No.15577371 Report

Quoted By: >>15577450

>>15577336

This. I don't want Pokebank. I'd rather just live without the 200 or so Pokemon not available right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:47:56 No.15577450 Report

Quoted By: >>15577474

>>15577371

Hell, majority of said "missing" Pokemon are just Legendaries that only kids like Ecstasy (AKA Darks) will enjoy using for their 2edgey teams; the Friend Safari is a perfectly fine way to find the other Pokemon with Hidden Abilities. Why GameFreak so desperately wants to destroy their meta-game I will never know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:48:09 No.15577455 Report

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Lilligant with aromatherapy
And HP fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:48:15 No.15577457 Report

Quoted By: >>15577471

Fire punch kanga

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:49:02 No.15577471 Report

Quoted By: >>15577479

>>15577457

>countering an Uber-level Pokemon with another Uber-level Pokemon

At least try to be creative, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:49:21 No.15577474 Report

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>>15577450

I am for the first time having so much fun playing against friends with Pokemon we've all crafted by hand now that the game mechanics are so fleshed out and non-frustrating. This will all be ruined by December.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:49:36 No.15577479 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577471
>uber
>creativity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:50:44 No.15577498 Report

Quoted By: >>15577535

>>15577336
>implying Game Freak doesn't have a way to detect Hacked Pokemon
>implying Hacked pokemon will even be a problem since IV breeding is mongoloid easy
>implying you won't get banned if GF finds out about the hacked pokemon
>Implying Game Freak will let pokemon that come from the Pokebank battle on Battle Spot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:51:46 No.15577520 Report

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>>15576666
nice quads

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:52:29 No.15577535 Report

Quoted By: >>15577627

>>15577498

>implying you won't get banned if GF finds out about the hacked pokemon
>Implying Game Freak will let pokemon that come from the Pokebank battle on Battle Spot

I want to believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:54:30 No.15577575 Report

Quoted By: >>15577608

>>15577336
You know technically it's more balanced when every pokemon has the same stat potential

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:56:18 No.15577608 Report

Quoted By: >>15577803 >>15577809

>>15577575

Some IV's are just near-impossible to breed on certain Pokemon, though. 31-sets are easy, I'll give GameFreak that, but what about Trick Room teams that want 0 IV's in their Speed stats? Hackers just have such an unfair edge when it comes to scenarios like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 07:57:32 No.15577627 Report

Quoted By: >>15577727 >>15577753

>>15577535
I mean the reason people hacked was because IV breeding was a bitch. Now, I don't care if people use hacked pokemon. Doesn't bother me now that IV breeding is easy. Plus, I take satisfaction knowing I played legit. GF did the right thing, they made IV breeding very easy, there is no reason to hack except to get shit like Seismic Toss Chansey and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:03:27 No.15577727 Report

Quoted By: >>15577753 >>15577885

>>15577627

Seismic Toss Chansey/Blissey is no better than the easier sets; Softboiled Clefable, on the other hand, will be a fucking monster to deal with.

>but u cn stil get softboiled clefable legitimately! im jus savin time!

God, I fucking hate that logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:05:13 No.15577753 Report

Quoted By: >>15577784 >>15577792 >>15580493

>>15577727
>>15577627

How DO you get Seismic Toss Chansey and Softboiled Clefable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:06:54 No.15577784 Report

Quoted By: >>15577883 >>15580329

>>15577753

Move Tutors from FireRed and LeafGreen. The moves can't be passed down through breeding, however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:07:15 No.15577792 Report

Quoted By: >>15577883

>>15577753
Pokemon Firered/leafgreen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:07:33 No.15577803 Report

Quoted By: >>15580687

>>15577608
Breeding for 0 Speed is just as easy as breeding for 31 IVs: all you need is a single fucking Ditto with 0 Speed and a Power Anklet to get a parent with 0 Speed for any species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:07:49 No.15577809 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577608
0 is the same as 31 and the IV judge will even tell you when it's 0 now.
The only place where it's a real advantage is with optimal stats for certain Hidden Power types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:11:10 No.15577883 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577784
>>15577792
Seismic Toss can be bred now on Chansey. Softboiled can't be bred on Clefairy though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 08:11:23 No.15577885 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577727

A set stolen from Smogon:

Clefable @ Leftovers w/ Magic Guard
Bold / 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
- Cosmic Power
- Moonblast
- Softboiled/Wish
- Stored Power

Expect to see this shit a lot after December, especially with Fairy-Type's resistances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 09:52:39 No.15579571 Report

Quoted By:

Fun ways to beat Klefki:

Magic Bounce
Faster Priority users (though they're not around yet, but watch Klefki use drop when they do)
Magnet Pull Magnezone (sure you'll take a swagger or two, but the chances are they'll drop before you will).

I also keep meaning to try Arena Trap Dugtrio with a Lum Berry

Switch in, enjoy your free Swords Dance when they Swagger you, EQ

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 10:46:03 No.15580282 Report

Quoted By: >>15580544

ITT: faggots owned by klefki
i'm enjoying your tears

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 10:49:47 No.15580329 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577784
So I gotta breed for IVs the old fashioned way again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:05:03 No.15580493 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577753
Seismic toss is an egg move for chancey now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:05:25 No.15580497 Report

Quoted By:

>>15576248
Prankster Sableye running will-o-wisp and encore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:07:42 No.15580518 Report

Quoted By:

>>15576248

magic bounce megaabsol is hilarious against it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:09:49 No.15580544 Report

Quoted By: >>15580680 >>15580716

>>15580282
>implying you can beat him
>implying you're just as anal devastated at the fact you can't beat him so you must lie on the internet to keep your small but hopeful ego up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:13:18 No.15580588 Report

Quoted By:

Guys i got a shiny Klefki but it has Magician...any sets i can make to use it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:18:24 No.15580637 Report

Quoted By:

>>15576512
That's because they're bad and not running EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:22:21 No.15580680 Report

Quoted By:

>>15580544

magic bounce

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:22:40 No.15580687 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577803
that only works in hgss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:25:35 No.15580716 Report

Quoted By: >>15581013

>>15580544

ground type with lum berry

enjoy the free 2x attack boost and sweep away with quakes

mamoswine works, garchomp works

doesnt even have to be a ground type, just something strong with strong quakes or flamethrowers, that can take a thunder wave with lum berry, you sacrifice the free 2x attack but at least klefki is dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:40:56 No.15580910 Report

Quoted By: >>15580947

>>15576248

So what set is the one that's making Klefki so problematic? EV spread? I can't seem to make anything good out of it, or decide between all the possibilities...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:44:00 No.15580947 Report

Quoted By:

>>15580910
Swagger
Thunder Wave
Substitute
Foul Play
252HP/252DEF/6SpD
Bold. Leftovers.

That's pretty much what every annoying motherfucker is running

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:47:16 No.15580993 Report

Quoted By:

Taunt (prankster taunt preferred)
Whirlwind/Roar
Something that can't be Para, with low atk
Own Tempo (I'm sure there's a Tangled Feet gimmick in there somewhere, though)
Trapping and Perish Songing the fucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:48:25 No.15581013 Report

Quoted By:

>>15580716
Electric types work for that too, though theres less good physical sweeper amongst them to take advantage of

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 11:54:48 No.15581095 Report

Quoted By:

what about a cell battery item or electivire ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 12:21:38 No.15581344 Report

Quoted By:

>>15577336
>implying it's not just a matter of time until an X/Y-compatible Pokegen comes out anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 15:04:35 No.15583625 Report

Quoted By:

>>15576248
heart of the cards mang, heart of the cards o wait wrong game well get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 15:08:46 No.15583701 Report

Quoted By:

>>15576248

Own Tempo Numel walls it.

Your welcome, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 15:10:52 No.15583745 Report

Quoted By:

Flare Blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2013 15:54:45 No.15584567 Report

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>>15577186
>that forfeit
OH FUCK, my sides left orbit!

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