I've been thinking about adding Mega Gardevoir to my team. It would be a bulky attacker
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 17:50:47 No. 15624191 Report Quoted By:
>>15624165 > What does you think? LMFAO
What do you think**
Anonymous
Garvedior can learn Stored Power via move tutor, so that could replace psychic
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 17:53:55 No. 15624269 Report Quoted By:
> TImid Dragonite
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Personally I find psychic to be a redundant attacking type when you already have a fairy move. They have nearly the same coverage, except fairy is better, and psychic really only offers help against poison types that you'll barely run into.
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 17:55:03 No. 15624299 Report Also, I'd be willing to trade a bunch of mons for a 4 - 5 iv timid / modest raltz.
Anonymous
>>15624165 Get Psyshock, it's way more valuable on Gardevoir to have a mix option than an extra 10 BP.
Personally, I vouch for Future Sight.
Anonymous
I know for a fact I faced someone with the same exact team last night on Pokemon Showdown
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 17:56:48 No. 15624358 Report >>15624271 Agreed. I just am getting owned by Mega Vensaur. It's Thick Fat ability plus high Def and SpD eat my Fire Punch and Ice Beam. They do Barely Half. I might replace Dark Pulse with Extrasensory on the Greninja
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 17:58:11 No. 15624394 Report Quoted By:
>>15624351 >Pokemon Showdown Wasn't me. I don't use that stuff at all.
>>15624328 Good Call!
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>>15624235 She can learn it from the move re-learner now.
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:00:58 No. 15624464 Report Quoted By:
I would just like to say Jolly Dragonite with Weakness Policy is amazing. The only thing that has killed me flat out with multi scale intact have been Protean Greninja. Everything else falls short... Even Icebeams from mega mewto Y. Then I just dragon dance and shit on everything.
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>>15624165 It looks like a good set! Once bank is out, swap Moonblast for Hyper Voice - Pixilate will make it Fairy type and bump up its BP to 117. It also hits through subs.
Anonymous
>>15624358 How does that stat distribution on Megavoir work out for you?
I'm currently running a pure 252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp. Attack - Bold set with wish and calm mind.
With this set Gardevoir has a really good chance of surviving a hit from a choice banded, technician bullet punch from scizor
even though taking a hit from scizor is a stupid plan to begin with . It makes Garde pretty bulky on paper, and if I can get the ball going with calm minds its pretty solid.
Does your set play well for you?
Anonymous
>>15624165 pixilate gives a 30% power boost to the normal type moves it converts to fairy, so if you're just using moon blast for the stab and the debuff doesn't factor in swap it with return.
Anonymous
>>15624597 >Return >Using a physical move on a special attacker I know this is /vp/ and I shouldn't expect any kind of skill but come the fuck on, are you fucking retarded?
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>>15624235 I've tried this on showdown - I've found, for me, anyway, that even in Mega form Gardevoir just isn't tanky enough to stay in and set up more than one Calm Mind, making stored power less efficient than Psychic.
Anonymous
>>15624597 >Physical attack on Garde Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:08:51 No. 15624690 Report >>15624299 I have a 5 IV modest Raltz: male or female.
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>>15624597 >return >physical >85 attack >165 special attack Anonymous
>>15624633 >>15624673 >>15624711 >fuck that was stupid of me sorry I just woke up. only the fact that that pixilate gives a 30% and not the fact that return is Physical registered on me
Tobias (Delibird, Bergmite, Cloyster) 2895-7412-3014
Tobias (Delibird, Bergmite, Cloyster) 2895-7412-3014 Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:10:34 No. 15624752 Report I have two questions
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:11:47 No. 15624787 Report >>15624734 Once bank comes/ or move tutors, hyper voice is the correct option over moon blast. Hits through subs, good in dubs/trips, 30% boost + stab.
Anonymous
>>15624165 What do you breed Gardevoir with to get focus blast?
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:13:23 No. 15624836 Report Quoted By:
>>15624690 Oh I would want the 4-5 IV jolly dratinis. Tell me what IV spread you want on the raltz.
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:14:32 No. 15624884 Report Anonymous
>>15624834 Focus blast is a tm
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>>15624884 >>15624903 I guess I got to find that fucker.
Anonymous
>>15624787 How come Hyper Voice is only available then?
And god I wish Gardevoir could learn Boomburst
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:17:29 No. 15625006 Report Quoted By:
>>15624592 I haven't breed it yet. I need to start from scratch and before I spend two hours breeding I want to make sure it will be worth.
Anonymous
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>>15624982 Its a move tutor from gen V.
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>>15624982 boomburst would be stupidly powerful on M-gardevoir
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:20:20 No. 15625086 Report >>15624690 I'm going to get everything but attack so anything with that.
The dratini's I have all either HP/Atk/Def/SpD/ or SpE
Let me know what you spread you want.
Thanks
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:27:22 No. 15625281 Report >>15624752 You can get Roost. It is a TM. You loss momentum if I were to use roost to replenish my Multiscale.
You have to bring it in after someone is downed or switch it in so it won't get hurt.
Then you dragon dance, take what ever hit they dish out and you'll practically always live. If the move they hit you with is super effective. you get +2 Atk and SpA and with the DD you'll be at +3 Atk and +1 Spe. You'll outspeed almost everything and will be set up to sweep.
You won't need to roost after that.
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:30:45 No. 15625380 Report >>15625086 I can do an HP Def SpA SpE
HP SpA SpD SpE
HP Def SpA SpE
Def SpA SpD SpE
or 5 IV (with an atk IV in there, I guess for breeding).
All modest, tell me what gender, and what spread you want.
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:33:05 No. 15625447 Report Quoted By:
>>15625380 Oh id probably want the HP/Atk/Spd/SpE Spread. And female, because I have a bunch of 6 IV gabites males for breeding to get a 5 IV perfect dragonaire with.
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:38:02 No. 15625567 Report >>15625380 HP Def SpA SpE would be perfect.
I don't care about sex.
The Dratini's I got are
3 X F - Hp Atk Def and Spe
F Atk Def Spd Spe
F Hp Atk Def SpD
F HP Def SpD Def
F Atk Def Spd Spe
F Hp Atk SpD Spe
Let Me know
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:41:16 No. 15625662 Report Quoted By:
>>15625567 Cool. I got you added. I'm ready whenever
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:44:25 No. 15625768 Report >>15625567 HP Atk SpD Spe
And ill look for HP Def SpA SpE, i'll add you now
Anonymous
I've posted this like 5 times now, with almost no help. I've never had a competitive team and this is my first and only Pokemon I've raised for competitive battling, so can anyone help me improve on it/build the rest of my team around it?
Anonymous
>>15624165 would be hard to make use of multiscale without leftovers or roost when rocks are out
maybe a spinner like forretress to replace ferrothorn, who can have almost the same moveset minus leech seed
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine)
Rinsako 5215 0505 7477 (ICE) (Snover, Iciclethingy, Pilloswine) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:52:34 No. 15626015 Report >>15625768 Sorry my Wifi Connection is using tethering right now, i'll be available tomorrow once I get back home. I'm on a taxi to the airport, so once I'm on a more reliable connection, I'll get you a ralts. I can try to breed a 5 IV one in the meantime.
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:52:54 No. 15626022 Report Quoted By:
>>15625900 Agreed. Honestly. I have only be doing battle spot where no one sets up stealth rocks. I do however have an excadrill for that. I would probably sub him with the gliscor. But Fortress does sound good.
Also, the subpass bypasses stealth rocks but that isn't always the most reliable thing
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:55:55 No. 15626098 Report Quoted By:
>>15626015 Bummer.
No Worries. Hit me up. I'll trade you the dratini. In the mean time, I'll just bread my own.
Thanks.
>>15625873 I've been using mawile. It is really nice. I prefer sucker punch instead of substitute. EQ and fire attacks tend to destroy it and I'm invested in max HP. I generally get one attack off and then sucker punch and that does the trick
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3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat) Tue 05 Nov 2013 18:58:42 No. 15626161 Report Anonymous
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>>15624165 Why do people use @ incorrectly? it makes no sense.
Anonymous
Get that voice move instead of moveblast. Use her pixelate to hit through subs. Like Dragon subs. And psychock for a physical hit
Tobias (Delibird, Bergmite, Cloyster) 2895-7412-3014
Tobias (Delibird, Bergmite, Cloyster) 2895-7412-3014 Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:06:13 No. 15626376 Report >>15625281 If im not mistaken prority is a huge part of the mate now so That +1 speed might not be as useful as you think. Just saying.
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby)
Zoo 3711 7785 5041 (Sandshrew, Camerupt, Diggersby) Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:14:21 No. 15626592 Report >>15626376 Agreed. Pr
But what Priority Moves can do a lot of damage to Dragonite? After the first Multi Scale hit, I'm generally left with at least 50-65%. The only thing that take me down below that have been Ice Beams from Mega Metwo Y and Garchomps/ Outrage. But they don't have priority moves.
I understand that it is a risky move but if done correctly and prepared for... it is a great way to sweep. I mean, I have OHKO'd so many mons.
It fits well with my team. For the most part, ever other member is really stally/bulky so they dance around most of the threats.
Also, the only real trouble I have had is with Kleki, Mega Kan, and Mega Vensaur but I have a feeling the Mega Gardevoir I'm adding will help.
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Guys can Gardevoir learn Draining kiss? With egg moves or something.
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>>15625873 >Choose something to cover mawile's weaknesses >Choose something to cover that thing's weaknesses And bam, you gave your team's core.
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>>15626313 Not available ubtil pokebank opens.
>>15626161 I don't see Gardie hitting ou. Too much competition, too much scizor. It's gonna wreck in uu though.
Tobias (Delibird, Bergmite, Cloyster) 2895-7412-3014
Tobias (Delibird, Bergmite, Cloyster) 2895-7412-3014 Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:39:23 No. 15627377 Report Quoted By:
>>15626592 Well you speak from experience i speak from theory crafing so im probably gonna defer to you on that then. Ill try both and see what works better.
