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Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:35:22 No.15627234 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15627446 >>15628043 >>15632140 >>15632721

I feel +15 to all stats of this thing would't save it. Prove me wrong /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:36:35 No.15627277 Report

Quoted By: >>15627349 >>15627509

+15 to all stats would save any pokemon. You're talking about a +90 to BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:37:54 No.15627328 Report

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I feel inverse Wonderguard would save it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:38:01 No.15627332 Report

Quoted By: >>15627916

Only giving it wonderguard would save it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:38:32 No.15627349 Report

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>>15627277
Kyurem says hi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:41:29 No.15627446 Report

Quoted By: >>15627610

>>15627234

Aurorus > Tyrantrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:41:40 No.15627451 Report

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>slow ice/rock type with shit stats

It would need something seriously broken to be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:42:44 No.15627487 Report

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You'd need Super Multiscale or something to save it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:43:17 No.15627509 Report

Quoted By: >>15627556 >>15627608

>>15627277
Would giving +15 to all stats save Shedinja, or just ruin it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:45:05 No.15627556 Report

Quoted By: >>15631612 >>15632113

>>15627509

+15 base HP would allow it to survive 4 switch ins with Stealth Rock, 17 turns of Sandstorm, etc..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:46:41 No.15627608 Report

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>>15627509
Make it go uber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:46:46 No.15627610 Report

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>>15627446

That's not proving anything. It's also incorrect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:49:23 No.15627697 Report

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Literally the worst typing possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:50:49 No.15627739 Report

Quoted By: >>15627845 >>15627963 >>15628812 >>15632337

>Not wanting an ice-type hyper beam with a 30% damage boost, not including STAB
>While still having amazing bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:53:53 No.15627845 Report

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>>15627739

>using Hyper Beam ever
>implying it doesn't die to everything because of that terrible defensive typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:55:52 No.15627916 Report

Quoted By: >>15628120

>>15627332

How? He would be killed by any Grass, Water, Fighting, Steel or Ground move.

If he got Power Gem, he would really not be so ridiculously bad with Snow Warning, but I can't really think of a way to make him viable without making him Uber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 19:57:35 No.15627963 Report

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>>15627739
>Considering Hyper Beam
>Doesn't mention Blizzard

Beta as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:00:09 No.15628043 Report

Quoted By: >>15628208

>>15627234
All the fossil pokemon mostly suck.
Especially the older ones that have a lower BST than Aurorus and Tyrantrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:02:06 No.15628120 Report

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>>15627916

Solidest Rock, Halves damage from SE hits.

Still weak to Fighting and Steel. No valuable resistances. Still can't take advantage of its Rock stab. OK movepool with Boltbeam, T-Wave, Encore and Mirror Coat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:04:47 No.15628208 Report

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>>15628043

I don't know much about Tyrantrum, but there's no way Kabutops, Omastar, Rampardos or Carracosta are worse then Aurorus. Hell, even Cradily is probably better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:06:51 No.15628285 Report

Quoted By: >>15628363 >>15628545

>all these people who think Aurorus is bad

I bet you're the same people who think Fennekin is the worst starter in this game.

Kevin 1950-8705-8776 (Bug - Combee, Volbeat, Venomoth)

Kevin 1950-8705-8776 (Bug - Combee, Volbeat, Venomoth) Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:07:49 No.15628312 Report

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Needs an Ice/Dragon mega form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:09:12 No.15628363 Report

Quoted By: >>15632267 >>15632393 >>15632732

>>15628285
I 2shotted Dianthas Aurorus with a rotom-wash that was 20 levels lower than it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:14:41 No.15628545 Report

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>>15628285

It has the absolute worst defensive typing in the game, yet its stats lean towards a slow, bulky special attacker. The only thing it has going for it is Snow Warning, and weather got nerfed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:18:19 No.15628686 Report

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pls fix ice
Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:21:08 No.15628782 Report

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a good physical attack stat and extreme speed would save it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:22:23 No.15628812 Report

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>>15627739

>Aurorus
>any bulk at all

You must be thinking of a different Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:27:56 No.15628969 Report

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Now we know why this guy went extinct

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:51:27 No.15629674 Report

Quoted By: >>15629759

Hopefully gamefreak learn from this and adds some resistances to ice-type in the next generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 20:53:58 No.15629759 Report

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>>15629674
Good joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 21:06:55 No.15630137 Report

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Ice is trollfreak's internal little joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 21:57:49 No.15631612 Report

Quoted By: >>15632035

>>15627556
>Extra HP can help u survive longer vs %HP Entry Hazard and Weather Damage.

Nigga, are you stupid or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:00:44 No.15631705 Report

Quoted By: >>15632262

Defensive ice can only work if you give them retardly strong stats

Avulugg is really good.

Alex 5386 - 8490 - 1395

Alex 5386 - 8490 - 1395 Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:12:08 No.15632035 Report

Quoted By: >>15632326

>>15631612
Compared to something with a max HP of 1? Yes, yes it can.

Leo 4871 4442 7047 (kakuna, garbodor, whirlipede)

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Leo 4871 4442 7047 (kakuna, garbodor, whirlipede) Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:15:01 No.15632113 Report

Quoted By: >>15632202

>>15627556
>aurorus
>weather damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:15:44 No.15632140 Report

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>>15627234
No argument here. http://pokemondb.net/type/dual
Ice/rock is at the very bottom by cumulative score. It's literally the worst typing combination a pokemon can have defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:17:28 No.15632202 Report

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>>15632113
You fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:19:05 No.15632262 Report

Quoted By: >>15632380

>>15631705
>is weak to every major physical attacker while being a physical wall
>gets 80%-90%'d by Mega Luc, Conk and Terrakion

It's poop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:19:12 No.15632267 Report

Quoted By: >>15632393

>>15628363
Fuck man, i one shotted it with a Malamar 35 levels below it. One super power and it ded. It's clearly shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:21:06 No.15632326 Report

Quoted By: >>15632558 >>15632647 >>15633209

>>15632035
Anything with over 1 total actual HP can live it. It's percentage damage dip shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:21:29 No.15632337 Report

Quoted By: >>15632587

>>15627739
>>>>hyper beam

>implying anything with TWO 4x weaknesses, one of which is a popular typing, can be bulky in any shape or form
It's the same reason Aggron has it really fucking bad, but at least it has high defense to make it not get fucked over so hard.
Aurorus doesn't have a base defense stat over 100; it's fucked by anything which outspeeds it (which isn't hard) with a fighting type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:22:55 No.15632380 Report

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>>15632262
There's a clip of one surviving a Breloom focus punch stab crit with over 20% HP. It does it's job good nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:23:39 No.15632393 Report

Quoted By:

>>15628363
>>15632267
>Diantha sends out Aurorus against my Sylveon
>Take this opportuniuty to use Calm Mind
>Aurorus used Light Screen!
>Use Calm Mind five more times until Light Screen wears off
>OHKO with Draining Kiss

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Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:27:51 No.15632492 Report

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Ice type is completely useless

Offensively its okay but everything and there mom can learn ice beam and you dont really need to STAB ice attacks to kill most dragons

Ice literally has NO RESISTANCES besides fucking ice type

Keep in mind this is the same type that is weak to stealth rocks, fire attacks, fighting, and bullet punch

Gamefreak needs to either re-balance ice type and give it more advantages then...uh taking no damage from hail i guess

Any good ice pokemon is not because its ice but its because it has good stats or move pool. Ice type is nothing but a disadvantage for any pokemon that has the type

Gamefreak please

Alex 5386 - 8490 - 1395

Alex 5386 - 8490 - 1395 Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:29:53 No.15632558 Report

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>>15632326
Yes. I don't think you understand, +15 HP is included in that 'anything' value, and that +15 HP would allow Shedinja to survive SR and Sandstorm, which was the original speculation. If you're going to be a dick, at least get your shit right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:30:58 No.15632587 Report

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>>15632337
Also, bullet punch scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:33:14 No.15632647 Report

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>>15632326
You know that Shedinja doesn't have over 1HP right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:36:34 No.15632721 Report

Quoted By: >>15632902

>>15627234
>mfw they give one of my favorite pokemon the objectively worst type combination in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:37:06 No.15632732 Report

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>>15628363
She was so easy. I 1shotted Diantha with my Dragon Dance-Moxie Scrafty. 1 Dragon dance and moxie helped me OHKO all of her pokemon after Hawlucha, including the MegaGardevior

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:40:35 No.15632828 Report

Quoted By: >>15632941

Why are there so few ice pokemon that are trully overpowered? There's at least a handful in every type that are overpowered as fuck. Ice hardly has any. Can't stand the types that feel neglected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:42:58 No.15632902 Report

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>>15632721
someday a mega might change that, Anon ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:43:17 No.15632907 Report

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So someone tell me how to make one of these usable. Not even "good," but usable.

I'm just finishing EV training my fourth fucking Tyrantrum (well, now a Tyrunt) and I'm doing at least three more so I figure I should try the other guy at least once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:44:27 No.15632941 Report

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>>15632828
Ice has literally 1 resist

and that resist is ice

Unless they have another good type its really hard to switch them in safely especially considering ice type also comes with a weakness to spooky rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:52:26 No.15633154 Report

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>Two 4x weaknesses
there is no way to make this viable without retconning its typing. The only mon I can think of with two 4x weaknesses that is remotely good is Aggron, and that has more to do with insane defense on top of a new Mega with Filter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Nov 2013 22:54:32 No.15633209 Report

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>>15632326
You're being silly, Anon. A Pokémon with 2 HP would only survive two turns of a sandstorm. A Pokémon with 5 HP would survive five.

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