Anonymous
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stop playing digimon?
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>>15644051 Choice Scarfer - OHKO end of the story
Anonymous
It'll be banned soon enough.
Anonymous
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>sucker punch >shadow sneak >any ground type >outspeed it get gud
Anonymous
>>15644051 Sharpedo rapes Mega Gengar. Seriously. Someone challenged me to a battle, and I had an EV trained Sharpedo with 252 Attack and Speed EVs. It was faster than any pokemon he had, and could take most of his down in one hit. So he sent out and Mega Evolved his Gengar in an attempt to take down Sharpedo. Sharpedo took it down in one hit before it could attack.
Anonymous
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>>15644051 I kill it every fucking time.
Use ANY ghost or dark move as soon as Gengar comes in
Anonymous
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Assault Vest T-Tar is the closest thing I've seen to a hard counter for this seeing as shadow tag doesn't work turn 1. Swap T-Tar in and it can't do shit. Even dazzling gleam barely does anything since he's not opting to run HP Fighting or Focus Blast while you pursuit and kill him even if he stays in.
Anonymous
>>15644051 >Assault Vest >Priority >Speed Boost >Choice Scarf >This is not that hard Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15644106 From official ranked matches?
>m-muh showdown Anonymous
>>15644628 >subdisable now what?
Anonymous
>>15644658 Assault Vest T-Tar stops Earthquaking you and starts pursuiting.
Now what?
Anonymous
>>15644683 >pursuit It works behind substitutes?
Anonymous
>>15644719 no but it will kill your sub and you have no real way of killing him so you just sit there ans sub over and over and over again until you die
Anonymous
How is running disable on this thing even viable? It has to get once to use disable.
Anonymous
>>15644798 Sub or Protect and Disable, yep.
Anonymous
>>15644777 >Pokemon is 1v1 He can switch out you know.
Also he does get Dazzling Gleam which he SHOULD be running.
Anonymous
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>>15644777 Mega gengar has no attacks to take out Ttar? Why would you earthquake it instead of crunch first?
Anonymous
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>>15644798 It shuts down every check that's not AV T-Tar, Scizor and Snorlax, so yeah.
Anonymous
>>15644813 He gets like no Coverage then holy shit.
Anonymous
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>>15644798 Yes. I used sub disable Gengar in gen 5 and it works fucking great.
Anonymous
>>15644719 No, but how are you subbing the same turn you use disable?
If it goes something like
>Gengar uses sub when T-tar switches in >Gengar uses dazzling gleam or something because it can't disable unless T-tar hits first, T-tar uses EQ, >Gengar uses disable, T-tar gets disabled that turn >Gengar is now no longer protected by sub while T-tar starts spamming pursuit >so either next turn you fail to 2KO with gleam or you sub up again, or I guess switch out and die Unless you're starting after revenge killing with a sub up or something and get in an extra 2 dazzling gleams somehow, there's no real way to win this here.
Anonymous
>>15644869 >ghost/fighting >ghost/fairy >no coverage Anonymous
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>>15644901 He can't hit a lot of things supereffectively running just Ghost/Fairy and Ghost/Fighting is just asking to miss.
Anonymous
>>15644654 wait how does one participate in ranked battles?
Battle Spot -> Random Match?
Anonymous
>>15644837 >He can switch out you know. Yeah, thanks for the free kill due to pursuit and waste of your mega.
Anonymous
>>15644890 Or you know, you could just spam Focus Blast until he dies while you're behind your sub and subdisable every other check.
Anonymous
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>>15644890 How much of a boost is Assault vest?
Anonymous
>>15644937 I didn't know that we were assuming that the Ttar was running pursuit.
Anonymous
>>15644932 Yeah, but you have to sync with PGL first
Anonymous
>>15644953 Assault Vest T-Tar literally can't do anything except attack you. You are incredibly not bulky, your subs don't take a Tyranitar's Crunch, Earthquake, or Pursuit.
You don't have a chance to spam focus blast more than once without risking getting OHKO'd due to T-tar killing your sub while you struggle to 3KO or even keep subbing while taking sandstorm damage.
Disable only works on one move at a time, and you can guarantee that Tyranitar will be carrying both Earthquake for Edgequake and a Dark move specifically for Gengar.
>>15644991 Literally one up from the post you replied to.
Nosson 5300-9438-7094 (Chansey, Loudred, Dunsparce)
Nosson 5300-9438-7094 (Chansey, Loudred, Dunsparce) Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:33:05 No. 15645106 Report Quoted By:
>Choice scarf Gardevoir >No more ghosty
Anonymous
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>>15644654 Now you know why Smogon exists
Anonymous
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>twiddle my dick as he neuters and eliminates
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>>15644500 can you get speed boost sharpedo in x/y?
Anonymous
>Ctrl+F Talonflame >0 hits
Anonymous
>>15645264 Neither of those are counters though, they're revenge killers.
You can revenge kill with anything.
Some nigga up there mentioned fucking choice scarf Gardevoir.
Anonymous
Mega Mawile is a good counter so long it doesn't burn you with WoW
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:41:51 No. 15645464 Report >>15645355 OP was just asking what could kill it, not what's a direct counter.
Even then, you're not going to be able to counter it very well once it mega evolves and Shadow Tag comes into effect. But with that said, Pursuit Gengar is likely the best option.
>>15645425 There's no way Gengar isn't going to Substitute at the sight of Mawile. Anything with Sucker Punch is sub bait.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:42:52 No. 15645508 Report Quoted By:
>>15645464 Pursuit Tyranitar, sorry. Particularly the Assault Vest variants.
Anonymous
OFFICIAL SAFARI X/Y THREAD
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>>15645464 >There's no way Gengar isn't going to Substitute at the sight of Mawile. Can it actually do anything back though?
What's stopping Mawile from just iron heading/play roughing(does over 25%, yeah) away subs until Gengar can't even sub anymore?
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>>15645464 >Anything with Sucker Punch is sub bait. Ah, good point
Anonymous
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>>15645100 Focus Blast 2HKO's AV T-Tar.
Anonymous
>>15645464 What's the common moveset for Mawile on singles? maybe you can fit taunt if M-Gengar is that much of a problem to you.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:46:58 No. 15645661 Report Quoted By:
>>15645528 At this point, you're playing a guessing game. He can either Sub up on a predicted Sucker Punch and hammer you with a Shadow Ball the next turn, or just attack you outright.
Mega Gengar can't OHKO Mega Mawile straight up, but without a Swords Dance or Sucker Punch, Mega Mawile can't OHKO Mega Gengar either.
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>>15645624 That wouldn't even matter, would it? Gengar being faster and basically guaranteeing sub means you can't taunt it behind the sub.
Generally Mawile goes for Play Rough/Iron Head/Sucker Punch/Coverage because Play Rough and Iron Head aren't great and can't even hit steel.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:48:27 No. 15645716 Report >>15645624 From what I understand, the common sets seem to be Iron Head, Play Rough, Sucker Punch, and a filler move--usually Swords Dance.
It's unfortunate that Mega Mawile suffers from poor speed, average bulk and average power behind its STABs, because it's a really neat Pokemon with a nice typing.
Anonymous
>yfw when Bulletproof Chesnaught is a Gengar counter >yfw Chesnaught is useful for anythin
Anonymous
>>15645760 >counter >dies to dazzling gleam >most Gengar basically ONLY run Shadow Ball/Dazzling Gleam Anonymous
>>15645716 > and average power Isn't it the pokemon with the highest atk stat after huge power?
Anonymous
>>15645760 For fuck sakes
As someone that uses him he is not a goddamn counter for Gengar at all. Any smart user would use Dazzling Gleam or Sludge Wave
Chesnaught is barely a counter and no smart person would actually bring him on GENGAR of all goddamn things
Stop saying this shit
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>>15645801 He's referring to the actual attacks Iron Head and Play Rough, only because they're not rape machine auto win buttons like Outrage or Close Combat despite ~80-90 being the same as basically anything not a dragon, fire or fighting type.
Anonymous
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:54:20 No. 15645905 Report >>15645785 Some Gengar are often running Sludge Bomb over Dazzling Gleam for pure offensive power, which is stopped by Chesnaught.
...But Gengar has access to Sludge Wave from the Dream World, which is even more powerful than Sludge Bomb. And Chesnaught won't want to eat on of those.
>>15645801 Yes, but its STABs have poor power with only 80/90 BP each (before STAB of course).
Base power is very important, even when compared to STABs. For example, even coming off of Talonflame's very average base 81 Attack, its priority Brave Bird is the strongest in the game--even outdamaging normal Arceus's Extremespeed.
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>>15645892 Read this
>>15645847 Its really irritating that people thinks this
Chesnaught has better and less risky things to check and counter than fucking Gengar of all things.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 04:55:51 No. 15645963 Report Quoted By:
>>15645905 Even when compared to a Pokemon's attack stat. Jesus christ, I'm tired. Sorry--long day at work.
Anonymous
>>15645905 >Some Gengar are often running Sludge Bomb over Dazzling Gleam for pure offensive power Some retarded ones maybe.
Considering Ghost is resisted by a single type and Dazzling Gleam hits that single type Super Effective, that's 160 power compared to 120 neutral STAB that you'd get walled by Bisharp with anyway.
Some people run both Gleam and Sludge bomb, but it's rarely ever that Bomb is replacing Gleam on a competent player who knows not to teach their Charizard Ember, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, and Fly.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:02:02 No. 15646213 Report Quoted By:
>>15646096 Sludge Bomb is actually 135 base power after STAB, while Sludge Wave is 142.
Anonymous
Assault Vest Bisharp.
Anonymous
>>15646235 >Focus Blast is not even going to be a thing on Gengar It will because people are using random Dark-types that wouldn't even be viable if it wasn't for Gengar.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:05:24 No. 15646330 Report >>15646285 Dazzling Gleam hits those super-effectively though, and is more reliable than Focus Blast.
Focus Blast would be a thing for Tyranitar and Bisharp--if Assault Vest WASN'T a thing. Unfortunately for him, they are, so I doubt he'll be running it.
Anonymous
>>15646330 Because like I said, Focus Blast two-shots AV T-tar.
>252 SpA Gengar Focus Blast vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in sand: 288-340 (71.28 - 84.15%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Not even T-Tar is a good check because of that. Yeah, it sucks because it misses, but you're gambling hugelhy if that's your go-to Mega Gengar check.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:09:30 No. 15646457 Report >>15646437 Even if it does, you're predicting a Tyranitar switch in and praying for two hits in a row. That is risky as all hell, especially when Tyranitar has an easy OHKO on you.
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>>15646285 Most popular set is:
>Sub >Disable >Spooky Orb >Dazzling Gleam Right? Well, are you seriously going to give up Dazzling Gleam for fucking Focus Miss of all things? Certainly can't give up Sub OR Disable because they make the set and Gengar's going to sorely miss hitting Dragons and Fightings for Super Effective damage.
That's why you're not going to see Focus Blast any time soon.
That said, Gengar's not even going to hit Bisharp in the first place because of Sucker Punch, if you know how to predict.
Anonymous
>>15646457 Or you can just Sub as you mega-evolve and he switches in.
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:11:15 No. 15646514 Report Quoted By:
>>15646457 On top of that, your only real chance to do this would be on your first turn as you Mega Evolve. If Mega Gengar's already on the field, your opponent can't switch Tyranitar in unless they have a ghost-type on the field.
>>15646494 That could work.
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Chun Li's Spinning Bird Kick 2552-1161-7574 !NdXsekXuGQ Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:12:52 No. 15646562 Report Quoted By:
I've literally never lost to one. I don't know if I've even seen one's first move.
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Assault Vest Tyranitar
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>>15644051 hey anon, this is mega-gengar
i fucked ur mum
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:18:19 No. 15646748 Report I should note, I just ran a damage calc real quick...
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw
Francis 1177 7808 6380 (Teddiursa/Loudred/Ditto) !!co2DfsIUUMw Wed 06 Nov 2013 05:19:20 No. 15646781 Report Quoted By:
>>15646748 >Without Stealth Rock, >unless Stealth Rock is present. I really need to stop posting.
Anonymous
>>15645583 no it dosnt
not on a specially defensive ttar in sand
its more like 3-4 hits, enjoy your 70% accuracy
also crunch is like 80% 1hko with zero attack ttar and pursuit is a clean 2hko if your stupid enough to stay in
Anonymous
>>15647248 It definitely does, at least 85% of the time according to damage calcs. Nonetheless, a healthy Assault Vest TTar should do just fine against Gengar.
Anonymous
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>>15648023 scratch that, it's 100% 2HKO since I accidentally gave TTar both leftovers and assault vest.
Anonymous
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>Mega Banette >Sucker Punch >OHKO
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Yes, mega gengar will fuck any pokemon that you have out, but for the naive users, choice scarf infiltrator chandelure works amazingly well.
Anonymous
>forget Disable is an egg move >already made my 5 perfect IV Gengar
Ed 0146-9311-8263 (Wartortle, Krabby, Poliwhirl)
Ed 0146-9311-8263 (Wartortle, Krabby, Poliwhirl) Wed 06 Nov 2013 07:54:19 No. 15650713 Report Quoted By:
>only use my gengar for trolling >Hypnosis/Dream Eater combo >half my games end with opponent rage quitting >i dont even know how to battle
Anonymous
>>15650673 If it's male just give it an Everstone and breed it with a Ditto holding a Destiny Knot til you get a female and the 5 IVs passed down from Gengar then breed that Gastly holding an Everstone with the male that's passing down the move holding a Destiny Knot until you get the 5 IVs from the Knot passed down from Gastly's side. Easy as fuck.
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Every time I have fought one of these things they have died horribly.
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anyone have a 5iv one with disable
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>>15644051 Wow I just realized that thing between his eyes is actually a third eye, I thought it was like that spot you see on indian foreheads or whatever you know?
Anonymous
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>>15644051 Sucker punch. It's that easy.
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0318-7659-8006 >JuX: Water "Azurill, Floatzel: Panpour" Wed 06 Nov 2013 08:13:55 No. 15650991 Report Just counter with Gengar. Trick a choice item then Disable.
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>>15650991 >implying you can trick away a megastone Anonymous
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>>15650834 2 perfect IV ditto plus a 5 IV Gengar is a 1 in 48 chance of a successful breed. Depending on what you have lying around, that may not be your best option.
Anonymous
>use Greninja >have a Choice Scarf >use Extrasensory >OHKO
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>>15645055 Depending on your game cartridge, you might have to Nsync too.
kill me please. Anonymous
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>>15651126 >using greninja with a choice scarf >using greninja before weakening the team so that it doesn't die like a bitch on a side note, greninja is fucked if the team is gengar with bulky sweepers and tanks.
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