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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:48:17 No.15665760 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15665792 >>15665817 >>15666128 >>15666291 >>15666548

ITT: Gen 6 Pokemon you think will make a name for themselves in OU and Why.

Gourgeist for the great defensive synergy with Snorlax. Also a straight Breloom counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:49:31 No.15665792 Report

Quoted By: >>15665893 >>15665937

>>15665760
I agree, whenever I get a gourgeist/trevenant up against my breloom there's literally nothing I can go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:50:20 No.15665817 Report

Quoted By: >>15665864 >>15666038

>>15665760

Furfrou shuts down Scizor pretty nicely so I'm expecting him to stay either High UU to Low OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:51:56 No.15665864 Report

Quoted By: >>15665959

>>15665817
>Furfrou shuts down Scizor pretty nicely
And then gets wrecked because Sacred Sword is running rampant now, Mold Breaker ignores the only thing even making him salvagable, takes a fuckton of damage from Scizor's own Superpower even at +3, and can't recover that off while it can't do anything in return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:53:12 No.15665893 Report

Quoted By: >>15665983

>>15665792
Switch to most dark types. Gourgeist can't do anything in return except will-o-wisp and you can pursuit her if she runs

OP Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:53:58 No.15665937 Report

Quoted By: >>15666061

>>15665792
And them Wow and shadow sneaks add up. Also she can spin block.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:54:30 No.15665959 Report

Quoted By: >>15666061

>>15665864
>Scizor's own Superpower
Stop battling on showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:55:17 No.15665983 Report

Quoted By: >>15666038 >>15666061

>>15665893
Dark took a hit this gen. No one is running any dark types anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:57:02 No.15666038 Report

Quoted By: >>15666095

>>15665817

What can Furfrou do apart from Roar and Thunder Wave? It's too fast to use U-Turn.

75/169 effective defence is worse than Avalugg, and he has reliable recovery, an offensive presence and a useful ability.

>>15665983

They're using a Dark-type. It just happens to be the one weak to Seed Bomb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:57:42 No.15666061 Report

Quoted By: >>15666141

>>15665937
Spinblocking is sort of useless this gen considering most people will be running Defog once Pokebank comes out

>>15665959
Fine, Furfrou can be niche UU for maybe a month.

>>15665983
How so? Stuff like Bisharp still doesn't care about fairies, Dark is the only type who resists the newly overpowered ghost types' STABs, and T-tar is one of the most common Pokemon this gen. Absol's even a decently popular mega.

The only ones who really got hit bad were Hydreigon and Scrafty, and that was more due to them also being dragon and fighting type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:58:47 No.15666091 Report

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Trevenant for immortality through maximum berry consumption.
Using this guy online is an absolute blast, and that's coming from someone who typically hates using Substitute strategies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:58:52 No.15666095 Report

Quoted By: >>15666418

>>15666038
Who TTar? Yeah he is only running pursuit for his dark move and after a WoW Gourgeist fears nothing from him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 21:59:56 No.15666128 Report

Quoted By: >>15666212

>>15665760
Gourgeist has pretty good synergy with Heatran too but it's a shame that Heatran doesn't resist Ghost and Dark anymore. If the Steel nerf didn't happen they would cover each other's weaknesses perfectly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:00:14 No.15666141 Report

Quoted By: >>15666418

>>15666061
I doubt Defog will get big truthfully.

OP Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:02:23 No.15666212 Report

Quoted By: >>15666317

>>15666128
Snorlax covers them all save Dark and flying but whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:03:27 No.15666246 Report

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Aegislash: Need I say anything?
Noivern: Bypasses substitute with infiltrator, just a better crobat due to its better offenses and movepool
Goodra: All round decent stats, tanks all special attacks
Greninja: Deadly poke with an extremely diverse movepool and ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:04:47 No.15666291 Report

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>>15665760
Klefki, for being an amazing screener with prankster (mainly in doubles) and having one of the best typings in the game, as well as acess to spikes and thunder wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:05:27 No.15666317 Report

Quoted By: >>15666395

>>15666212

How? If you don't really care about hazards, you have literally no reason not to run Defog. Not to mention, it's a big Fuck You to all the HO teams that were running around in Gen V.

And yes, it's entirely possible to have a team not reliant on entry hazards, or have a Defogger that can set up his own hazards.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:07:28 No.15666370 Report

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Say what you want about sneaky pebbles and lol80attack. Priority Brave Bird/Acrobatics/Roost/Tailwind is just way too legit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:08:16 No.15666395 Report

Quoted By: >>15666491 >>15666492

>>15666317
I just think that if you want to run any hazards, like a lot of teams do, then defoging is a waste of time. Not to mention the pokemon that get it, save Crobat are not stellar iirc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:09:00 No.15666418 Report

Quoted By: >>15666554

>>15666095
T-Tar occasionally runs crunch as well for actually reliable damage. Running some base calcs, Gourgeist invested in HP and SDEF like normal takes about 80% of its health before it can WoW back.

>>15666141
If rapid spinning can keep Forretress OU for three gens, Skarmory and Gliscor getting Defog will just kill it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:11:36 No.15666491 Report

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>>15666395
>I just think that if you want to run any hazards, like a lot of teams do, then defoging is a waste of time.
Most defoggers (simply because there's a fuckton of defoggers) can run hazards themselves though. People have no problem of sending out Skarmory, getting rid of clearing out the field, and then re-setting its stealth rocks and spikes if it wants to. Because that puts full control of the field in your hands. Especially if your opponent is running magic bounce or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:11:38 No.15666492 Report

Quoted By: >>15666678

>>15666395
>Not to mention the pokemon that get it, save Crobat are not stellar iirc.

As soon as Pokebank opens, all Flying-type Pokemon will have it.

Having, say, Skarmory defog the enemy rocks away then set up his own is really worth it.

Charles 5000 2982 8736 (Machoke, Sawk, Tyrogue)

Charles 5000 2982 8736 (Machoke, Sawk, Tyrogue) Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:13:08 No.15666548 Report

Quoted By: >>15666581 >>15666740

>>15665760

More importantly, Gourgeist is a hard counter to M-Khan. M-Khan needs Shadow Claw (which is silly) and somehow be at +2 to actually kill Gourgiest on a switch. Gourgiest then Will-O-Wisps if M-Khan stays in. If M-Khan isn't sent to Ubers (which is actually possible), Gourgiest will serve as the go-to "I need something that can switch in M-Khan" pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:13:18 No.15666554 Report

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>>15666418
Okay yeah a crunch TTar is a threat but ones without it are not counters to Gourgeist and a significant number of TTars don't run it. Though that might change with Aegislash and Gourgeist around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:14:01 No.15666581 Report

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>>15666548
> If M-Khan isn't sent to Ubers (which is actually possible)
like, not even slightly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:16:59 No.15666678 Report

Quoted By: >>15666974

>>15666492
>all
Sauce? We don't know it's egg move status anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:18:50 No.15666740 Report

Quoted By: >>15666924

>>15666548

>Any Decent M-Kanga
>Not running Crunch

People have had time to work with this.

Charles 5000 2982 8736 (Machoke, Sawk, Tyrogue)

Charles 5000 2982 8736 (Machoke, Sawk, Tyrogue) Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:24:34 No.15666924 Report

Quoted By: >>15666974

>>15666740

>Giving up your only way to deal with faster sweeping threats

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:26:04 No.15666974 Report

Quoted By: >>15667545

>>15666678
Anything that could learn it in Gen 4(who doesn't require a dream world ability to be good) or Gen 5 will have access to it in Gen 6 come pokebank.

>>15666924
Most faster sweeping threats will be laughing at you as you just gave it a free chance to sub up and attack you safely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:42:16 No.15667545 Report

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>>15666974
The big question is can you Poison Heal and Defog on a Gliscor? If not that is a big negative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:50:07 No.15667832 Report

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Diggersby for being a better Azumarill and a straight Aegislash counter.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:03:19 No.15668243 Report

Quoted By: >>15668400

>tfw some of the movesets used on smogon arent possible to attain ingame because the tms dont exist anymore
>tfw smogontards think their shitty movesets are gonna last when pokebank comes, and you transfer something impossible over

h4h4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:07:42 No.15668400 Report

Quoted By: >>15669237

>>15668243
Wait what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:18:29 No.15668742 Report

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Carbink for being a useful version of Shuckle. Though Shuckle DID get Sticky Web

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:30:46 No.15669112 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:34:47 No.15669237 Report

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>>15668400
One example I know of is Wish Blissey/Chancy, which was a one time event that happened way back in 3rd gen and and is actually rare as fuck despite every Blissey in showdown having wish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Nov 2013 01:00:14 No.15672178 Report

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does a shadow sneak from Gourgeist OHKO a spike setting Froslass?

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