So about a week ago I floated the idea around here of setting up a pokemon league with people from around these parts. Coming back with something (only slightly) more formal now. Let's start a discussion about this if you're interested, and shoot me an email so I can get an idea of number of interested people and see if it is worth putting this together.
I will copy paste the text from the attached image below:
/vp/ POKEMON LEAGUE
Pokemon league - Tournament style, single player, more true to the anime with more relaxed rules
Pokemon league - Tournament style, single player, recognised GF series rules
Elite Four + Champion - We could host our own style of Elite four, with somewhat regular rotation of the E4, and regular rotation of the champion
Gym leaders - Have any willing trainer (+friends to house the gym if desired) run a pokemon gym. Anyone who wins earns a badge. (Could feed into the pokemon league)
Duo Battles - Duos pair up and have battles
Team Battles - 3 and 5 man teams could team up to take each other in a league table type system
Ladder leagues - Ladder leagues where solo, duo and team participants could battle each other to move up and down the ladder.
Any other ideas? This could be something really cool.
Anyone interested? Could be fun as FUCK. Mail me at the address below to register interest :)
[email protected]
Sal 1203 9219 8043 (Charmeleon, Growlithe, Braixen)
Sal 1203 9219 8043 (Charmeleon, Growlithe, Braixen) Wed 06 Nov 2013 22:00:05 No. 15666134 Report I don't get it. Is it just a place for lots of battles?
Anonymous
>>15666134 Yeah, just with recollection and e peen growing.
Anonymous
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>>15666134 Your friend safari is amazing by the way.
Anonymous
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>>15666219 Sounds cool. I'd be down to be a gym leader, but I guess I need to shoot you an e-mail for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>15666010 i like the idea of a doing a traditional pokemon leauge with 8 gyms e4+champ, i for one would love to run a bug team.
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To the people who have said they wanna run a gym, get emailing guys!
Anonymous
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I am surprised at the lack of response to this.
Anonymous
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I've been thinking about a gym format for some time, but you'd have to place some pretty heavy restrictions on both sides to make it remotely fair.
Anonymous
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I'd like the idea of being a gym leader just dont think iv got enough commitment to make a strong team.
Anonymous
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Pretty interesting idea. How would the mechanics work? I guess "matches" would occur over wifi, and the gym leader would report victories to some central server. Would definitely need a global database to keep track of player badges and stuff.
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15666010 Holy shit, I guess I made a thread like this
>>15665331 just a few minutes a go. Do you want to merge together? I can take over the Gym Leader/ E4 section and handle the administration and rules of the league.
Also, my email is
[email protected] Anonymous
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I would be very interested in this. The gym leader thing catches my eye. I'm not extremely good at these games but I could fit into that bracket of sorts.
Anonymous
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I'm interested, always did want to be a gym leader and run a mono-type team before
Anonymous
The only thing I worry about with this, is the kind of thing works much better usually on a forum where it's much easier to track registrations and all of that.
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15668614 One of the things I suggest is doing either a) email correspondance and omnipresent /vp/Leage Generals
and/or
b) A Steam/Skype group. This would give the added benefit of knowing who is online.
Ninten 3196-2987-8155
>>15668688 You could make a google doc spread sheet per gym for certified trainers.
Anonymous
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>>15668688 Steam group is probably something more people have access too, but could also be something that works in conjunction with a message board where everything is just clearly laid out for everyone to read.
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Emails guys! It is the easiest way to keep track of everything!
>>15668467 Sounds great, drop me an email and we can talk :)
>>15668740 I was thinking that originally. Easiest way to have an open and verifiable database.
Ninten 3196-2987-8155
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>>15668797 You have one main google doc in the faqs part of the thread that has links to all the others.
Anonymous
If 4chan wasn't an anonymous board, this idea might have worked out better...I would be interested in participating as a gym leader once a solid plan is made on how things will be run.
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15668797 A simple Text document is all we really need for the Gym Leaders. We could use a spreadsheet for determining what challengers have what Gym Badges.
>>15668883 Tripcodes are things bro.
Anonymous
Will we be doing this over the actual versions of pokemon or by battling on some pokemon simulator?
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
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>>15668899 The best way, in my opinion, would be to do it over the actual carts. We could use showdown for mock-battles and practising.
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586 Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:27:32 No. 15669008 Report Quoted By:
>>15668895 That was a total newfag moment, I forgot tripcodes.
I guess I'll be monitoring this thread.
Anonymous
How good would I have to be? Do i have to be as good as everyone here or what?
Anonymous
>>15669026 i mean to be a gym leader.
In fact, generally, what will the difficulty level be?
Anonymous
>>15669026 To be a Gym Leader, a basic knowledge of the games is required, as with some good Teambuilding and actual battle Strategy.
Just be able to make a semi-decent mono-type team and not be stupid enough to keep an Amourous in against a Scizor.
Anonymous
>>15669063 Hard to say without knowing what skill level people play at.
One league I've seen done did reasonably average gym leaders and put the experienced battle vets in as the E4.
Anonymous
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>>15669104 hmmm, could be fun.
I'd like to have an Ice team since its my favourite type. when i can lose i can blame it on ice type being shitty and badly represented.
Im not that great at competitive play that /vp/ does but im definitely good at pokemon. Im good at the random battles on showdown since i have to think on my feet.
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15669133 We could have it where the GL and E4 rotate based on their performance. A person with a high number of wins or Pokemon KOs can move up, while people who often get swept are moved down.
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586 Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:33:36 No. 15669192 Report so how would we go about deciding the gym leaders?
Anonymous
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>>15669063 well, theawedudes idea was to be an extra challenge as you play through your regular cart, gym leaders and e4 would be equiv to what you would find in the game, which is a pretty neat idea i think. he mentioned something about trying to promote nuzlockers to do it
Anonymous
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>>15669186 That could also work. I'm considering throwing an email your way in a few minutes after I cook something to eat. So I may or may not participate.
Anonymous
>Everyone who wants to participate posts a type he wants to play (or champion where everything is allowed) >if there are more people wanting one type, they fight, and the person who has one the most games will be used as a gym leader >if enough people can be found, several regions can be made (kanto if there are just 8+4+1 people, kanto+johto if there are 16+8+2 people and so on) >higher ranking in your type = higher generation leader >a challenger has to fight his way from kanto to become the champion of the world
Anonymous
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>>15669192 Hey bro, could hop online for a sec so I could get your third pokemon? We've already added each other. Polite sage for off topic.
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15669192 First come, first serve? As long as I get 8th Gym Steel Leader slot.
>>15669260 I don't think /vp/ has enough people to support that, even if this got really popular. At most, I think we could have a "normal" and "advanced" league.
Anonymous
I hope you are trying to run this over a simulator and not in game wifi, its totally unfeasible to do over wifi what with size issues and the such.
Anonymous
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I like the idea of a steam group. which can have messages too.
Anonymous
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>>15669260 6*(8+4+1)+1 people would be needed (with an "world champ")
Anonymous
>>15669373 if this is seriously picking up, i'll volunteer myself as an Ice Gym, preferably one of the first four badges so there is less pressure on me.
I dont play...
egh, 'hardcore' so I probably won't perfect my pokemon through breeding. Is it still OK for me to be considered?
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
Also, I just read over the Kalos Gym Leaders, and my god they are WEAK! So, anyone that is doing some team-building, base your team's strength off of
http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/gyms.shtml challenge mode.
>>15669436 The only problem I see is if a Gym Leader wanted to make a change, it would take a bit to make that change. Other than that, I can see no problems. Can you elabourate so we can make any changes, if necessary?
Anonymous
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>>15669436 >implying it takes long to train a team in-game anymore TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15669480 You definitely don't need to have "perfect" Pokemon, especially at such early gyms. The difference between Adamant 31 Attack IV and Timid 0 Attack IV is just a few stat points at level 10. Just have a general knowledge about team-balance and such. Remember, the challengers will be overleveled compared to you.
Anonymous
>>15669542 Consider me in! Do I e-mail you now?
Anonymous
>>15669542 Why would you try and use levels on the cart when you can auto-level everything to 50 (or down to 50 if you wish to do 3v3 format) so it's still actually a challenge?
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586 Wed 06 Nov 2013 23:49:09 No. 15669696 Report couple of quick questions:
Anonymous
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>>15669542 Ive emailed. If you dont reply youre a gay fag
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15669594 Email me whenever you want. I would also suggest grabbing a trip on 4chan.
>>15669603 Instead of doing flat battles, we would use.. whatever that term for no-level change.
>>15669696 I would prefer to do Origins style, but that may be a bit too much work for the GLs. In either case, early gyms use less Pokemon. That's just how it works and it feels more comparable to the games.
Xavier- 4441-8761-3885
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I am setting up a gym! Theme is double battles, reply if you want to be a part. I am thinking 1 or 2 other "underlings" or lieutenants or whatever. The theme is double battles. Reply with friend code and whether you added me thanks
Anonymous
>>15669749 I was going to email Bossables (seeing as this is his thread) but if it's going to be no-level change so there's no fucking challenge, I'm out.
Anonymous
>>15669488 Set a sign up sheet with each type and people could sign up to be a gym leader for a region. Choose eight of those types for that region's gym's and if multiple people want to be a gym leader with the same type for that region, they battle for the position.
This is how you will set up your gym leaders for each region. Keep in mind that the teams of the gym leaders in each region have to be somewhat different to prevent monotony. An example would be the Kanto, Hoenn and Kalos Water type leader all using very similar rain teams. A way to avoid this is put restrictions on the Pokemon you can use as a gym leader in a certain region, as in Kanto water leader has to have mostly Kanto water types, etc.
If a leader wants to give their position up just have a sign up sheet for that position and do what you would do when we picked leaders originally.
To ensure the best is picked for Leaders and E4, every (Insert determined amount of time) people who want one of those positions can enter a tourny for that position against others and the winner faces the current Leader/E4 for their position.
Champions for each region would of course be the most recent person to beat the all leaders for that region, E4 and previous champion
Xavier- 4441-8761-3885
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>>15669819 I like this plan.
Narwhal !Dy9mve1U.s
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>>15669749 ok, im all tripped up. i think
Anonymous
>>15669749 If your using a simulator it would be easier to use custom levels as you wouldn't be a level 10 with Tackle and Growl, that shit is boring.
Then again you could just simply have everyone at 100 on the simulator
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15669819 I'll try to set something like that up.
>>15669806 Bossables is asleep (shhh, he is British apparently) and I am currently running the Gym League.
Also, were you thinking of being a Gym Leader or a challenger? Because it is supposed to be weighted in the challenger's favour.
>>15669904 We could do the Leader's Tourney (
>>15669819 ) on Showdown or PO.
Anonymous
>>15670010 Was actually going to apply for the Elite 4; you can still have it at an auto-level and still have it in the challenger's favour. It just comes down to team comp. Managing levels on the cart while battling on WiFi is just way more tedious then it's worth.
Anonymous
>>15669819 Another thing to prevent counter teaming by challengers who would just stack electric types to battle a Flying type gym leader would force challengers to register 12-18ish Pokemon that they are only allowed to use for the "season" of each league. Further restrictions could be placed on what those 12-18ish can consist of like BSTs to better simulate the limited resources a actual trainer at a Pokemon gym would have and to prevent teams from stagnating into typical OU copy and paste
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15670076 For E4, that would be a totally different style. Based on how I want to do it, E4 battles would all be flat, either 100 or 50, depending on what is easier to do.
>>15670092 B-But that is what players do in-game. And anyways, a flying GL can always run Gligar/Gliscor. Unfortunately, being a GL means almost everything is stacked against you. The challengers can see your team, you almost never have 6 Pokemon.
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586
Alex (Garbador, Kakuna, Toxicroak) 0044-2819-3586 Thu 07 Nov 2013 00:05:08 No. 15670264 Report Quoted By:
here is an idea to prevent team countering for mono type GL and E4: Anytime a challenger win/loses a battle, they are allowed to swap out one Pokemon on their team to help them prepare for the next challenge.
Anonymous
>>15670231 Right this is to make it so that challengers don't steam roll the gym leaders. There is no point in not making it a challenge. The Champion is the best trainer in any region so why wouldn't we try to emulate that as well with the /vp/ league
Anonymous
>>15670231 50 is the easiest as the game will out scale up or down to 50. Am I safe to assume E4 would have a full 6 like in rematches, or would it be something silly like 4 again like GF have been doing lately?
>>15670326 This is my biggest concern.
TheAweDude !a2uDFch6hM
>>15670326 We don't want people to steamroll through, that is why we have a level limit, but we also don't want to limit it to only the most autistic of Smogonfags. Ideally, a GL should be very hard for an unprepared person. Let's say you are a Flying Gym at position 4. The challenger has stacked Rock and Electric to try and counter you. You bring out your Roost Gligar and absolutely wall him.
In fact, I think that the best way to do it is for Gym Leaders to use the Bring-6-pick-4 rules from VGC. A GL makes a team of 6 (or 4 or 5 depending on their position) and in the battle, he chooses which 4 (or 3 or 2) to bring into battle. So, if the challenger has stacked Electric types against a Flying gym, out come the Tropius and Gligar. Whereas if the challenger has stacked Rock and Ice, the GL could instead use Skarmory and Hawlucha.
>>15670543 E4 would be full teams.
Anonymous
>>15670573 Hmm. Do you use the same email as the OP or is it a different email to contact you?
Anonymous
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>>15666010 Has potential,we should get some drawfags to start the badge designs
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>>15670619 I am my own person! I am theawedude@gmail.
Maybe I should start putting that in my email field Ninten 3196-2987-8155
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I'll volunteer to be the water type gym.
Anonymous
>>15670573 That works and all but then your going to have to limit the regions to prevent every Flying leader from using Gligar's and Skarmories to cover weaknesses
Fisher 3153-3770-9337 (Drowzee, Espurr, Gothrita)
Fisher 3153-3770-9337 (Drowzee, Espurr, Gothrita) Thu 07 Nov 2013 00:19:51 No. 15670769 Report Quoted By:
I sent an email to the address in the OP, I'm down to participate in this.
Anonymous
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>>15670714 That's why you don't base it on particular regions and have it be its own separate entity. Otherwise you then have to limit challenger selection and that just makes it tedious for everyone.
>>15670714 Not necessarily. Remember that Gligar and Skarmory themselves have weaknesses which may be shared with your other team-members. A flying gym will never be able to resist Rock or Ice, but they may be able to be weak to or resist virtually any other type.
Also, look at the BW2 gyms. Roxie has a Koffing (which is immune to ground) and a Whirlipede (which is neutral). And that is only second gym. Even if she had Koffing and Stunky, they each have their own weaknesses.
Anonymous
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>>15670855 Just shot you an email good sir.
Also, I set up a little guideline thingy on google docs.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L08suS6Rkv4isHQ8UHWxPOCnSo54_e2Bw4U0q13nYtc/edit?usp=sharing Feel free to give it a quick read and post comments (I think you can do that). Else just post on here or email me. Remember, I deal with the Gym League, Bossables deals with the Battle Frontier thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Those restrictions are balls to the walls retarded. I'm already a fucking monotype team, do I really need to have my availability restricted to those within a region and not at level set 50?
Xavier- 4441-8761-3885
Is there anyone I can challenge?
>>15672418 I think you misunderstand. There are no region restrictions. Only challengers have to only use Pokemon that they can use.
A gym leader can use any Pokemon that is reasonable in power. A first Gym Bug leader can use stuff like Butterfree, Beedrill, Pineco, Wormadam, even if they are not found in the Kalos region, but not stuff like Scizor or Volcarona.
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>>15672480 We JUST started. I don't even have my team done.
Anonymous
As long as the "competitive" part of it allows the entire movepool. None of this butthurt banning of moves or pokemon. If it's in the game, it can be used, period.>inb4 "wahh! evasion is anti-fun and makes the game too luck dependent!"
Anonymous
>>15672723 fucking retarded
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15672723 How is that fun? Who wants to use Butterfree and Beedrill at level 10 while they get steamrolled by a dude with six pokemon at level 50?
Why would I want to sign up to be an NPC?
>>15672838 >>15672890 >>15672894 I don't think any of you understand. At first gym, you would have three level ten dudes, while the challenger would have a bunch of similarily leveled mons. Unless you are one of those people that levels up to level 50 before taking on the first gym. And even then, challenges cannot use Pokemon 3 levels stronger than the Gym Leader's highest leveled Pokemon.
Anonymous
>>15673031 no seriously go fuck yourself
>>15672823 I think banning Torchic/other event mons would be for the best. Imagine if GF releases a Genesect or Victini like they did for BW2, at level 15.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15673031 MAN IF ONLY THERE WAS SOME WAY THAT WE COULD KEEP POKEMON AROUND THE SAME LEVEL
Anonymous
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I still can't believe you can't do Battle Maison over Wi-fi.
>>15673061 >>15673073 >>15673102 OK? What do you suggest instead? Are you saying you would prefer to do a PWT style of thing?
Anonymous
>>15673102 dude okay hold on I have an idea
what if
are you paying attention dude?
what if
what IF
WHAT
IF
there was an option that AUTOMATICALLY set the levels to 50???????????????
Fletch
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Keen to get in on this too, would love to run a Dark gym if it's free. I'll email later.
Anonymous
>>15673031 So its shitty roleplaying then?
Why would anybody ever agree to this?
I bet if this were in gen 4, you'd require everyone to give away a TM for defeating them too.
Eat a fistful of shit.
>>15673161 The damage calcs are completely different depending on the levels. Level 5 Pokemon do more damage on average to each other than a pair of level 100 Pokemon.
>>15673193 It is an extra challenge players would compete in while completing the main story. If you would like, I can also set up a PWT like thing, but that would be more of Bossables' territory.
Anonymous
>>15673146 How about you let people use whatever 6 Pokemon of a type they want without retarded restrictions? If you get rolled by a monotype team then go back and try again.
Anonymous
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>>15673252 yeah nah you're a cunt
>>15673273 So I could use Scizor, Aegislash, Durant, Bronzong, Ferrothorn and Magnezone for first gym? How are challengers going to have any chance when all they have are a pair of starters, maybe a monkey and Flame Body Fletchinder?
Anonymous
>>15673356 These people aren't actually at the first fucking gym.
Anonymous
>>15673356 because they won't fucking have that because they aren't fucking retarded holy shit kill yourself you retarded piece of SHIT
Anonymous
>>15673356 i have no words for this
Anonymous
>>15673356 If you set it up to be played alongside the game you're banning out most people from actually playing your gym. Set it up as level set and let people who've completed the game actually play you shitlord.
Pic related, it's my face when I realised your suggestions were serious.
Anonymous
>>15673356 Why the FUCK would challengers all have a bunch of shitty starting pokemon??
Are you fucking for real right now?
>>15673383 >>15673386 >>15673395 >>15673410 >>15673425 You guys realize that this Gym League is not meant to be post game, right? If that is what you are thinking, talk to Bossables for a PWT thing.
Anonymous
>>15673456 Okay well have fun having more leaders than challengers cause nobody in their right mind is going to play against the /vp/ gym their first time through the game.
Pic related, your challengers.
Anonymous
>>15673456 but that is fucking stupid
nobody is going to go "hey I just beat the first gym ingame, I should go challenge the first gym on /vp/!"
the only fucking people who actually play competitive have actual proper teams and want to do actual proper battles not this shitty roleplaying BULLSHIT
now come pick up your packages they've been sitting here all week
Anonymous
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>>15673501 >Pic related, your challengers. It's over.
>>15673501 >>15673550 This is primarily for people doing another run of the game, like for Nuzlockes and such. With Pokemon bank, you can upload your Pokemon to the cloud and restart the game. Other people may want to do what Bossables is running.
If you have any other suggestions, I will take them into considereation and see if I need to talk to Bossables about it. Right now, I see lots of interest in a PWT like thing.
thelittlestgirl !xTlpneHOlo
>>15673658 If you actually read the posts in this thread you will notice that no one is interested in the idea you are pushing, also:
> "Right now, I see lots of interest in a PWT like thing." There is no interest in anything other than that.
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>>15677200 I have recieved some private emails concerning the Gym League. For those that want to do the PWT, email Bossables.
Anonymous
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I am back and I see you ignored my suggestion on making it a set level virtual league over a simulator and payed for it, no one wants to play with level 10 Flechtlings and Pikachus. Ontop of that no one is going to fuck around with levels during their playthroughs to want to challenge what is basically a bunch of RPers.
