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THIS JUST IN

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 08:56:03 No.15719250 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15719906 >>15719995 >>15720009 >>15720142 >>15720447

THIS JUST IN

Ken Sugimori confirmed genwunner

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/129435-Pokemon-Art-Director-Wants-to-Simplify-Pokemon-Designs?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=news

Discuss

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 08:57:46 No.15719270 Report

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har diddly hurr OP maybe its because he did all the gen 1 art and has been around the series since its inception

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:02:49 No.15719321 Report

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bump for interest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:05:39 No.15719350 Report

Quoted By: >>15719360

If they actually go through with it, I'm excited for the new gen.

Might also explain why newer Pokémon artwork is so lifeless; Sugimori never enjoyed drawing them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:07:02 No.15719360 Report

Quoted By: >>15719582

>>15719350

>Lifeless

How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:09:06 No.15719378 Report

Quoted By: >>15719393 >>15719927

Sugimori has been designing Pocket Monsters since the mid-late 80s

While I welcome the change in art direction, it gives Gamefreak an excuse to be lazy shitheads. This is a nicer way of saying we're only going to release 40-50 new Pokemon every new generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:10:43 No.15719393 Report

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>>15719378

They want to slow down the creation of new pokemon before hitting the big 1000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:14:46 No.15719440 Report

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>THIS JUST IN

No

Merrick 4184-1803-4024 (Drapion, Swalot, Cascoon)

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Merrick 4184-1803-4024 (Drapion, Swalot, Cascoon) Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:17:14 No.15719486 Report

Quoted By: >>15719510 >>15719639

>He also believes that it's probably not possible to decrease the number of Pokemon
>Probably

What pokemon would you remove if you could, /vp/?

Fucking Mr. Mime this piece of shit I've hated it since the beginning. Mime Jr.'s fine but fuck this guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:19:11 No.15719510 Report

Quoted By: >>15719536

>>15719486
Some of the obligatory fishing/surfing fish. A lot of them are mono-water and don't do anything memorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:21:30 No.15719536 Report

Quoted By: >>15719600

>>15719510
They are fish pokemon typical to a region, it's like removing rodents or birds. They all serve a purpouse, showing region variations.
Unless you just want tentacools and magikarps in every region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:22:59 No.15719558 Report

Quoted By: >>15719839

FUCK YEAH!

Gonna repost this every time I see a nexgenner

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:24:14 No.15719570 Report

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>He says that fan feedback has revealed that Pokemon fans also feel the same way.

b-b-but genwunners!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:25:25 No.15719582 Report

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>>15719360
Please look up some gen 1 sprites (I'm at work, don;;t have the pic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:26:26 No.15719600 Report

Quoted By: >>15719617 >>15719628 >>15719665

>>15719536
This ain't Monster Hunter, bub

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:27:15 No.15719617 Report

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>>15719600
No, this is a world with separated regions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:28:32 No.15719628 Report

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>>15719600
I question where these MHfags are coming from, lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:29:20 No.15719639 Report

Quoted By: >>15719650 >>15719677 >>15719682 >>15719734

>>15719486
ALL of the Pikaclones, except Plusle and Minun. Those two can stay since they showed off double battles and the Plus and Minus abilities. Emolga can stay too, I guess, since it's kind of cute. Every other Pikaclone should go away, however.

I'd also get rid of Phione, Heatran, the Spritzee line, the Swirlix line, and maybe Manaphy. I'd think about getting rid of Scizor, purely because I'm fucking sick of its busted ass, and seeing it everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:30:04 No.15719647 Report

Quoted By: >>15719674

They probably could do to dial back the complexity of Pokemon designs on average. Though I think they had it right in around Gen 3. Absol is one of my favourites design-wise.

I doubt trying to retcon/replace existing Pokemon designs will go over well. And a lot of gen 1 Pokemon are pretty complex looking; Venusaur is mentioned in the article, after all.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:30:15 No.15719650 Report

Quoted By: >>15720323

>>15719639
>Every other Pikaclone should go away, however.
>hating on best pikaclone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:30:41 No.15719658 Report

Quoted By: >>15719983

Pokemon designs in red and blue weren't simplified either.
>obligatory rhyhorn, cloyster, gyarados

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:31:03 No.15719665 Report

Quoted By: >>15719962

>>15719600
Pokemon is about collecting, nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:31:35 No.15719674 Report

Quoted By: >>15719710 >>15719997 >>15720114

>>15719647
>had it right in gen III
Nope that's where this shit started

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:31:49 No.15719677 Report

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>>15719639
>Get rid of Heatran
>Get rid of mein neger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:32:13 No.15719682 Report

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>>15719639
>ALL of the Pikaclones, except Plusle and Minun. Those two can stay since they showed off double battles and the Plus and Minus abilities. Emolga can stay too, I guess, since it's kind of cute.
>ALL 5 of them should go away
>except 3 of them
You are a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:34:44 No.15719710 Report

Quoted By: >>15719723 >>15719997

>>15719674
no gen III was a good middle ground between the old style and these newish looks
>inb4 hoennbaby
I started with red and blue, but yeah, sure keep parroting that bullshit it will sure make your point more valuable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:35:44 No.15719723 Report

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>>15719710
I actually HATE everything about Gen 3 but the designs so I gotta agree with this anon here.

Prolet 0275-8310-7917 (Helioptile, Electrode,Galvantula)

Prolet 0275-8310-7917 (Helioptile, Electrode,Galvantula) Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:36:42 No.15719734 Report

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>>15719639
Nice one, contradicting yourself so fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:40:53 No.15719764 Report

Quoted By: >>15719781 >>15719784 >>15719792

For the most part, I'm fine with every generation's designs except maybe Gen V's. I like a lot of them, but since there were just so many Pokemon, there was heaps of shit in there. I think I only liked around 20% of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:42:52 No.15719781 Report

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>>15719764
There's so many of the fuckers now that I think more people should realise they don't have to like every single one of them.

And I really doubt they're all neccessarily designed in one go either, every gen probably has leftover Pokemon designs and ideas that get picked up and re-used in the next gen or even later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:43:39 No.15719784 Report

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>>15719764
From Gen V, I mostly dislike the starters and the vanillite line, mostly because vanilluxe.
I liked the variety in it, honestly, it was like kanto all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:44:47 No.15719792 Report

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>>15719764
I think the problem with gen V is not that they are bad designs, I don't know enought about character design to have a educated opinion anyway, the real thing that makes them so irritating to a lot of people is that they have a more "cartoonish" approach to them they definitely earned the title of reset button at least with the design direction they took, in other reality they could have very well being the "gen 1"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:45:28 No.15719798 Report

Quoted By: >>15719807 >>15719857 >>15719862 >>15719938

I want James Turner to design Pokemon again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:46:20 No.15719807 Report

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>>15719798
only is he promises to only design non food pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:48:31 No.15719839 Report

Quoted By: >>15719873 >>15720042

>>15719558
Actually, the nexgenners have collectively agreed that Ken Sugimori is Epic Fail. Genwunner sympathizers will NOT be making it very far in the pokemon community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:49:57 No.15719852 Report

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>Consequently, Venusaur is his least favorite Pokemon.

Well you fucking drew it you piece of shit. Could have been A LOT more similar to IVYSAUR

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:50:15 No.15719857 Report

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>>15719798
>Game Freak decides to ask a westerner to design Pokemon
>he takes some ice cream and gives it the face of a DQ slime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:50:37 No.15719862 Report

Quoted By: >>15720062

>>15719798
I love Golurk but that doesn't forgive the fucking ice cream cones

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:51:00 No.15719873 Report

Quoted By: >>15719943

>>15719839
can you guys just stop with this shit? it is polarizing
"newgenners" are not a thing and "genwunners" only polute /v/ in 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:51:20 No.15719883 Report

Quoted By: >>15719929 >>15719987

Remember, whatever happens in Gen VII will be the result of your whining. Watch, everyone who wanted simplicity and a return to the roots will bitch. Your beds are being made and you're gonna sleep in them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:53:10 No.15719906 Report

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>>15719250
inb4
"B-b-ut if you think about it anon, he has a point".

inb4 all you faggots switch teams just because someone at GF finally agrees on this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:54:29 No.15719927 Report

Quoted By: >>15719973 >>15720060

>>15719378
40-50. That's a good thing. Why do you need 150 or some arbitrary number of new pokemon each gen. Now they can focus on what really matters. Bringing the game up to it full potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:54:31 No.15719929 Report

Quoted By: >>15719988

>>15719883
nothing will happen jesus christ, sugimori is only speaking his mind he doesn't talks for GF. now if this was masuda then you could think something is gonna happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:54:55 No.15719932 Report

Quoted By: >>15719944 >>15719952 >>15719953 >>15719972

Hey, here's an idea, why don't the completely remove the first 151? They're old and and their designs are awful and bland compared to newer interesting, original designs seen in newer gens.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:55:32 No.15719938 Report

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>>15719798
Only if he traces real-life art again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:55:47 No.15719943 Report

Quoted By: >>15719958 >>15719999

>>15719873
"Newgenners" are as real as genwunners are, and we're proud of it. Instead of being intoxicated by childhood nostalgia (bad) of the first gen, we look forward to the future in hopes that a better pokemon game is released. Gen 6 built upon what didn't work in 5, 5 did the same for 4, etc.

This actually p. much holds true for a lot of things. Smart-fans of the Mother series know that Mother 3 is better than Earthbound in every aspect, Alien 3 > Alien, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:55:52 No.15719944 Report

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>>15719932
Not happening. The original 151 are the most popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:56:37 No.15719952 Report

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>>15719932
I'd say systematically remove shitmons, like the rest of the thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:56:46 No.15719953 Report

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>>15719932
This is some shit tier bait m8 try again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:56:56 No.15719958 Report

Quoted By: >>15721570

>>15719943
>Gen 6 built upon what didn't work in 5
Gen 6 is perfect because it say "fuck you Unova, you were an abortion, we are going back to our roots"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:57:10 No.15719962 Report

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>>15719665
Yeah but all these smogonfags care about is IV's and battling

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:57:47 No.15719972 Report

Quoted By: >>15719980 >>15720127

>>15719932
Not really. There is some shit but there is more shit in later generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:57:48 No.15719973 Report

Quoted By: >>15720122

>>15719927
I thought this was the gen when they were going to bring the series to it's full potential, but I ended with 72 new pokemons and a handfull of megas that are mostly the result of a popularity contest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:58:05 No.15719980 Report

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>>15719972
awful list

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:58:11 No.15719983 Report

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>>15719658
but they were good and "special"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:58:33 No.15719987 Report

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>>15719883
Notice how there are already some people whining about this supposed return to a simpler style and some who are excited? Guess which one of those groups of people will be the ones bitching about it later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:58:43 No.15719988 Report

Quoted By: >>15720020

>>15719929
Sugimori is one of the holding structures for GameFreak. If he wants to intervene with the design process, he's gonna.

3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat)

3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat) Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:59:02 No.15719995 Report

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>>15719250
skipping gen vi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:59:12 No.15719997 Report

Quoted By: >>15720053 >>15720146

>>15719674
Exactly, the original style was perfect

>>15719710
>no gen III was a good middle ground between the old style and these newish looks
That's the problem, things didn't need to be changed
Absol is the epitome of this edgy bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:59:16 No.15719999 Report

Quoted By: >>15720033 >>15720043

>>15719943
what the fuck do you even think newgenners mean? or better yet what the fuck do you mean when you call yourself newgenner considering it was a derogatory name that genwunners invented?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 09:59:59 No.15720008 Report

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Based Game Freak doing things right since Gen 6

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:00:00 No.15720009 Report

Quoted By: >>15720016 >>15720040

>>15719250

Sooo.... which ones does Sugimori hate?

Any confirmation for officially disliked pokemon and GF-hated designs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:00:44 No.15720016 Report

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>>15720009
Everything post Gen II

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:01:05 No.15720020 Report

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>>15719988
he really isn't, unless you mean in the art department, but other than that is masuda who is in charge right now

3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat)

3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat) Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:01:19 No.15720022 Report

Quoted By: >>15720032

someone please fire sugimori he's going to be the cause of the pokemon franchise's death

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:01:53 No.15720032 Report

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>>15720022
If Sinnoh and Unova didn't kill Pokemon, nothing will

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:01:54 No.15720033 Report

Quoted By: >>15720087

>>15719999
The correct term is neXgenner

There favorite gen is the most recent, they have no loyalty or opinions, they just eat what GF shits at them

Einzel: 1736-0343-0412 (Jigglypuff, Togepi, and Floette)

Einzel: 1736-0343-0412 (Jigglypuff, Togepi, and Floette) Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:02:25 No.15720040 Report

Quoted By: >>15720054 >>15720365

>>15720009
He stated that his favorite Pokemon was Gengar because it was the easier Pokemon to draw.

In that regard, he doesn't care for Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:02:32 No.15720042 Report

Quoted By: >>15720075

>>15719839
>Genwunner sympathizers will NOT be making it very far in the pokemon community.
You do realize that Sugimori has gotten very far precisely because of Pokemon. His style is synonymous with the image of Pokemon. He's not going anywhere faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:02:40 No.15720043 Report

Quoted By: >>15720056

>>15719999
If "newgenner" is supposed to be derogatory then the genwunners have defnitely failed epicly in trying to own us. I like "new" things, living in the present AND future, the year of 2013 and beyond. Getting caught up in memories of the past is lame and will inhibit emotional growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:03:03 No.15720047 Report

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FUCK YES

THERE IS STILL FUCKING HOPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:03:26 No.15720053 Report

Quoted By: >>15720073

>>15719997
>That's the problem, things didn't need to be changed
Absol is the epitome of this edgy bullshit
No, that tittle is for mega-charizard X
and to be honest I think most of johto designs felt halfassed and boring which is why I consider gen 3 a refreshing experience, not that I think is perfect or anything , but liked it more than johto which will forever feel like an expansion pack for red and blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:03:29 No.15720054 Report

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>>15720040
Which is probably why he also like Diglett and Voltord

Nexgenners will never understand pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:03:32 No.15720056 Report

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>>15720043
Gen 6 must have been a dick up your anus
>it's new
>b-b-b-but the pandering

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:03:48 No.15720060 Report

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>>15719927

I agree. This gen they FINALLY got the battles close to something that should be this gen visually. They can still streamline the battles a shit ton though, in terms of how fucking long it takes for every single message to pop up and stat change to happen. And seriously how did they not think to make the multi-hit moves go faster by this point?

And the online is fucking fantastic. I mean going back to HG/SS trading or battling, ESPECIALLY in person was a fucking MESS. Now it's easier than ever and you don't have to go to a goddamned pokecenter and remember which of the five doors to go to in order to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:04:08 No.15720062 Report

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>>15719862
I've come to terms with the ice cream cones to an extent. Them being Ice on an icicle makes sense. What doesn't make sense is 3 stages of such a simple and hardly changing design or the blatant straw (that's really pushing it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:04:54 No.15720072 Report

Quoted By: >>15720076 >>15720133

Jesus, where did all these genwunners come from? What time is it in America?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:05:00 No.15720073 Report

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>>15720053
>and to be honest I think most of johto designs felt halfassed and boring which is why I consider gen 3 a refreshing experience, not that I think is perfect or anything , but liked it more than johto which will forever feel like an expansion pack for red and blue.

Sure, I can agree with this

gen 3 is designs are at least better than gen 2, 4 and 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:05:00 No.15720075 Report

Quoted By: >>15720090 >>15720109 >>15720211

>>15720042
At this point the pokemon community has grown so powerful that some tepid genwunner sympathizer working in GF will barely matter. WE make this fandom, not the creators.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:05:19 No.15720076 Report

Quoted By: >>15720100 >>15720134

>>15720072
Jesus, I wish Reddit left already

You can be a hipster and hate on Gen 1 all you want there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:06:16 No.15720087 Report

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>>15720033
so if i don't hate anything post gen II I am a nextgenner? I have a hard time thinking you are not just another ruseman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:06:21 No.15720090 Report

Quoted By: >>15720113

>>15720075
>he thinks he's a majority
top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:08:09 No.15720100 Report

Quoted By: >>15720124

>>15720076
Reddit is actually made up of many forward-thinkers of this generation's youth, so it's really no surprise that they believe Gen1 is the worst one, the correct opinion. Plus, hipsters are fucking awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:08:52 No.15720109 Report

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>>15720075
>WE make this fandom
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOLY SHIT
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:09:05 No.15720113 Report

Quoted By: >>15720158

>>15720090
he is, otherwise this franchise would have dies long ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:09:06 No.15720114 Report

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>>15719674
>Nope that's where this shit started

Pretty much. That's when all the cancer came flowing in and edgy kids some of which now plague /vp/ and shitpost

Gen 3 was when Junichi Masuda took over and the original creator stopped having much influence.

Furthermore, pokemon haven't been completely designed by Ken Sugimori since Gen 2, he simply oversee's the design process, so there's a pretty clear difference between Gen 1/2 and the rest.

Oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:09:44 No.15720122 Report

Quoted By: >>15720139 >>15720178

>>15719973
Again you are focusing on the amount of new pokemon. Bringing pokemon up to it's full potential doesn't mean giving fans the same number of pokemon they did last gen, how is that doing anything to bring about idealized potential. That is literally the same thing again. If I say bringing it up to it's full potential, I'm implying there is room to grow. How doing the exact same thing achieves that is beyond my what my education has prepared me for. Now I can see you arguing that less pokemon isn't it's full potential but to reiterate, we already went over this when I mentioned that I'd rather have them focus on other aspects of the game. So here is where our conversation is supposed to be at. When I say improve other things, I'm talking; 3D sprites, fully animated (as we saw gen 6 do), potentially restat old mons, work on balancing, improve wifi functionality, redo the cries for pokemon, so on and so forth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:09:48 No.15720124 Report

Quoted By: >>15720181

>>15720100
>Gen1 is the worst one, the correct opinion. Plus, hipsters are fucking awesome.
>>>/out/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:10:02 No.15720127 Report

Quoted By: >>15720187 >>15720353

>>15719972

Fuck you for the following:
>Kingler, Magneton, Raticate
>Remoraid, Dunsparse (still wish it evolved...)
>Relicanth
>Abomasnow and the fossils

I have nothing to say about Gen 5. Those all are shit designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:10:12 No.15720133 Report

Quoted By: >>15720232

>>15720072
Dude, over 50% of /vp/ think either GSC or HGSS are the best games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:10:14 No.15720134 Report

Quoted By: >>15720159 >>15720164

>>15720076
I'm being serious. The stupidity of 4chan fluctuates, and it seems to coincide with morningtime in America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:11:13 No.15720139 Report

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>>15720122
>3D sprites, fully animated (as we saw gen 6 do), potentially restat old mons, work on balancing, improve wifi functionality, redo the cries for pokemon, so on and so forth.
So, retarded details nobody cares about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:11:24 No.15720142 Report

Quoted By: >>15720159 >>15721570,1 >>15721570,2

>>15719250
>Ken Sugimori confirmed genwunner
GEN VII CONFIRMED FOR RETURN OF THE FUCKING KING
V AND VI NEVER HAPPENED

DIGIFAGS AND YUGIFAGS PLS GO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:11:35 No.15720146 Report

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>>15719997
As much of a Toriyama rip-off it was, I really REALLY miss the quaint watercolor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:12:02 No.15720158 Report

Quoted By: >>15720200

>>15720113
Most of the people buying the games think gen 1 designs are the best hence all the pandering in XY towards gen 1 pokemon

The Kanto starters, megas, promo material, the anime, movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:12:16 No.15720159 Report

Quoted By: >>15720171

>>15720134
"Australian time"

>>15720142
>Gen 6
>not Gen 1 in 3D

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:12:53 No.15720164 Report

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>>15720134

Good thing it's 2-5 AM in America and you're a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:13:23 No.15720171 Report

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>>15720159
No, it's not.
It does have a lot of Gen 1 fan pandering though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:13:50 No.15720178 Report

Quoted By: >>15720341

>>15720122
the problem is not that they gave us fewer mons, but rather that the possibility that they keep reducing the number of the regional dex while at the same time not developing the game enough as we can see GF loves to take 1 step forward and 2 backwards everygen and everytime they make some new changes they take baby steps, so in the end wvery new gen would feel with very few new content since the possible change in mechanics will be barely noticeable, the pokemon even less and they will be inevitabily taking out some loved features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:14:00 No.15720181 Report

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>>15720124
I actually already have /out/ open in my tabs already. Planning to post a thread about my rock-climbing trip I had after coming home from the gym. Keep stewing in your seat and get mad about hipsters and classy Redditors shitting on your precious Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:14:07 No.15720187 Report

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>>15720127
All those gen 1 pokemon are good except Jynx

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:15:26 No.15720200 Report

Quoted By: >>15720264 >>15720311

>>15720158
even if they thought that it doesn't means they hate every new design as you seem to think, otherwise this franchise would be dead as I already said

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3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat) Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:15:36 No.15720205 Report

Quoted By: >>15720216 >>15720228 >>15720242 >>15720273

I fucking hate sugimori and the faggot genwunners screaming "LOL MUH CHILDHOOD IS BACK xD" What's the point of this shit? I'm okay with it getting a little less complex but, this amount of pandering is fucking annoying. Making the game just like red/blue will just attract (a few) genwunners but the people who used to like pokemon but now don't like it won't take any notice, if anything, sugimori is probably going to be a supreme faggot and make sure shit like online battling, breeding, Evs etc will all be taken out, I'm fucking sick of this pandering its okay to make a few references to older games but THIS MUCH EFFORT TO ATTRACT A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE is too fucking far. The genwunners will probably grab the copies of gen vi roll around in nostalgia and then stop playing. Gamefreak should be trying to attract people of all ages, after all that would give them more money. Why does sugimori even have the power to change 99% of the game? I know he's the art designer but fuck, he doesn't have to go full genwunner
Gen vii confirmed for cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:15:52 No.15720211 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720075
No we don't retard. No more than Genwun influences have. Look at the G1 pandering this Gen. They will do what the fuck they want to do. The will make PokeGods, they will dethrown them. They will cum in your house anyfucking where. Get over yourself. Sugimori is as much Pokemon as Masuda and Satoshi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:16:42 No.15720216 Report

Quoted By: >>15720239 >>15720276

>>15720205
Look at this autistic manchildren mad.

He's also a waifufag and probably a furry. This is the kind of people we don't want in Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:17:52 No.15720228 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720205
way to blow things out of proportion jesus christ, just take a nap or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:18:07 No.15720232 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720133
So? Somethings gotta be someones favorite.

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3582 9696 9666 (Sawsbuck, Oddish, Gogoat) Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:18:30 No.15720239 Report

Quoted By: >>15720244 >>15720248 >>15720250 >>15720273

>>15720216
>lol xd muh gen I is best xD bcuz i hav nostalgia loll
Get out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:18:40 No.15720242 Report

Quoted By: >>15720273

>>15720205
I can not +1 this hard enough. I'm screencapping this and posting it on /pokeymans on my Reddit Gold account. Cheers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:18:56 No.15720244 Report

Quoted By: >>15720260 >>15720266 >>15720276

>>15720239
Oh god, no more waifumons to fap to! Stop it Sugimori, I hate you, bawwwww *wall of text nobody read*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:19:26 No.15720248 Report

Quoted By: >>15720266

>>15720239
You're the dick breathed faggot who's going full autism overload here. You get out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:19:35 No.15720250 Report

Quoted By: >>15720266 >>15720276

>>15720239
Go rub one out to your waifu and fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:20:23 No.15720260 Report

Quoted By: >>15720271

>>15720244
I like how they state the new gens and pokes are the future and start turning into little crying piles of shit when Sugimori enters to fix the shit that was the last 4 gens.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:21:05 No.15720263 Report

Quoted By: >>15720333

Anyone who uses the term "genwunner" as an insult unironically is from Reddit.

Do not reply to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:21:06 No.15720264 Report

Quoted By: >>15720324

>>15720200
They do think that. Doesn't mean the franchise is dead because they are only one part of the demographic. GF did some surveying a few years back and realized they had a huge old fan following. There are still a lot of New fans but to think that they far outweigh dedicated fans means you know not of what you open your slit about. There are A LOT of people who still buy the games, that love to play with their older mons, like some of the new ones but still believe by and large the new art direction has been subpar. Especially the legendaries. Fuck the new legendaries..except Xerneas, Yvaltal, and Zygarde. They my niggas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:21:21 No.15720266 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720250
>>15720248
>>15720244
>All this autism

Come, let us solve the dysfunctional puzzle that is your mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:21:28 No.15720271 Report

Quoted By: >>15720290

>>15720260
I find diffiicult to believe you have not enjoyed the last 4 gens of pokémon yet, you take the time to be on this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:21:32 No.15720273 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720242
>>15720205
>>15720239

Anyone hear an echo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:21:55 No.15720276 Report

Quoted By: >>15720284

>>15720250
>>15720244
>>15720216
>Everyone hating on Gardevoir
They say taste is personal, but I guess you Genwunners think it only applies to your preferred choice of Gen. Double standard much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:22:54 No.15720284 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720276
I like Gardevoir as a Pokemon, not as a girlfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:23:30 No.15720290 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720271

I'm capable of enjoying the old games AND the new, yet having enough of a critical eye to recognize when a large portion of the new designs can be SHIT. I like most of the stuff from X/Y OK, there was plenty in D/P I liked, but holy fuck Black/White was a mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:24:52 No.15720311 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720200
I'm saying "genwunners" are the majority who buy new games

I'm not saying genwunners hate new designs, just that gen 1 designs are the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:25:35 No.15720323 Report

Quoted By:

>>15719650

I don't think they meant adult Pikablu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:25:37 No.15720324 Report

Quoted By: >>15720347 >>15720427

>>15720264
so you are telling me MOST of the people, because thats what the first post I replies said, hate the new designs yet, they have keep buying every gen for what now? 10 years? because that is the only way I think this could work if said mayority thinks the new pokemons suck, they have been buying something which it's primary selling point is the very thing they hate. I gotta admit I can not beat that dedication, If I hated something this long I definitely would not have buyed any of these products.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:26:19 No.15720333 Report

Quoted By: >>15720348

>>15720263
saved

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:26:56 No.15720341 Report

Quoted By: >>15720376

>>15720178
I see you like muh patternz but let's look at the patterns then shall we. What 2 gens introduced both the fewest pokemon and the most new features....Gen 2 and 6. There's your answer. There is nothing but shitposting, wishful thinking, and angsty contrarianism that should make us jump the gun on thinking that they can't or won't do right. As much as people like to gripe and nitpit GF, they are seriously one of the better and consistently quality developers out there. And I'll have to disagree with you 1 step foward, 2 back. It's more like 1 step foward and 0.5 back as the features they remove (while I miss some of them) are honestly not that important. My hope is that they use this opportunity now to go 2 steps forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:27:44 No.15720347 Report

Quoted By: >>15720418

>>15720324

Because there are always enough new features/new pokemon that aren't shit to have fun. And I enjoy a new pokemon game every other year or so (or more like every year these days). Doesn't mean I have to be super happy with every single new pokemon and declare the old ones I loved to be shit. So fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:27:54 No.15720348 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720333
you do realize they lurk around here and copy us rigth? if suddenly everyone were to shit on new gens here they would just start acting like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:28:16 No.15720353 Report

Quoted By: >>15720357 >>15720360

>>15720127
Relicanth
>bad
You do realize what it's based on right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:28:33 No.15720356 Report

Quoted By: >>15720381 >>15720444

What's with all the faggots screaming "yay yay yay my childhood"? Just go play red and blue if you hate new gens so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:28:57 No.15720357 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720353
yea ur mum

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:29:14 No.15720360 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720353

I am saying I LIKE those I posted.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:29:32 No.15720365 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720040
>because it was the easier Pokemon to draw.

The easier a pokemon is to draw the more GF cares about it?

Welp, Gallade is officially screwed. At least I might now find peace of mind with this uneasy truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:30:18 No.15720376 Report

Quoted By: >>15720491

>>15720341
my fear, and I do not express it as fact, but just fear, is that they will cut the number of mons, and keeo their regular schedule of new features which is rather slow at the current pace

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:30:34 No.15720381 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720356

NONE OF US ARE SAYING WE HATE THE NEW GENS YOU VAPID ILLITERATE FUCKS.

We like the designs of the old gens becuase they were, on average, better, and sure as fuck more iconic. There are plenty of new ones I like, they're just mostly the less-overdesigned ones. Look at Pancham. I fuckin' love Pancham.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:33:39 No.15720413 Report

Quoted By:

Gen 7 confirmed for best gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:34:08 No.15720418 Report

Quoted By: >>15720431

>>15720347
what is up with all these little shits polarizing everything, I am not saying you should hate the older gens or that should be super happy with every new pokemon, but to hate a design is just amazing how can you even care to put enought energy to hate something as trivial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:34:47 No.15720427 Report

Quoted By: >>15720543

>>15720324
Let me ask you what a company like GF should be more focused on.
a) A dedicated and consistent group who buys every gen, that provides sure sales, that has certain expectations that come from past experiences

or

b) A child who recieved pokemans from their rich aunt for christmas that gives fuck all about what pokemon look like or are supposed to look like because his generation has a hundred different mon series that have come and gone and to him pokemon could add rockets and yu-gi-oh and he wouldn't give a shit because he's not that invested anyway? Also his bitch ass doesn't have a job and probably has too short an attention span to pre order consistently from any other franchise than COD because he can shit talk with the other 12 year olds from school that he formed a clan with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:35:05 No.15720431 Report

Quoted By: >>15720498

>>15720418

>design of pokemon is trivial

THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING HERE THEN? WHAT ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:36:39 No.15720444 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720356
We like the new gameplay mechanics and overworld graphics

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:36:45 No.15720447 Report

Quoted By: >>15720456

>>15719250
guaranteed 200+ replies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:37:25 No.15720456 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720447
Oh please most people know this is easy bait. We just love arguing this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:37:28 No.15720458 Report

Quoted By:

This thread was doomed to spawn evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:39:41 No.15720491 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720376
Then I will berate them for it as a good consumer. Just like I would before berate them for churning out redundant and often bipolar quality mons en mass as opposed to focusing on other things that had been needing attending to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:40:33 No.15720498 Report

Quoted By: >>15720569

>>15720431
first calm down, nigga and second, Is fucking trivial when you think is ruining a franchise that clearly is doing well, you may hate the new designs, but a lot of people love them. Since your opinion is entirely subjective you should now better than to scream about how something is ruining the games when the problem is not gamefreak's design team but the fact that your polarizing view of if it "it doesn't fits my criteria of what is good is ruining the game" but your lack of tolerance to different points of view

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:43:33 No.15720527 Report

Quoted By: >>15720574

Based Ken is dropping it hard and calling an end to this awful age of Pokemon "Belts and Zippers".

I was looking forward to Hoenn remakes but fuck them I'm already hyped for Gen VII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:44:41 No.15720543 Report

Quoted By: >>15720563

>>15720427
I don't even know where the fuck you got that second example and how you came to the conclussion that dedicated fans dislike new gens since it is clearly not the case and did you seriously just included COD in your argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:46:45 No.15720563 Report

Quoted By: >>15720585

>>15720543
I did. I'm sorry you think anything is taboo here. But by and large the older and more dedicated fans are the most predominantly in favor of the old art direction as apposed to the new one. Please get out and consult some real life people. Get red pilled. I know you hate the idea of Genwunners but this is true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:47:24 No.15720569 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720498

WHEN DID I SAY ANYTHING WAS RUINING ANY GAMES? Scroll up the chain of responses. I said I LIKED the new games.

Fuck this I'm out. You're determined to demonize people for liking shit you don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:48:05 No.15720574 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720527
Belts and Zippers? wasn't that in Kanto with all the mons wearing clothes? oh wait Kalos is a Kanto rehash I get it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:49:25 No.15720585 Report

Quoted By: >>15720609

>>15720563
nigga I have been with pokémon since the 90's do you really think that only new people are in favor of the styles change? do you really live in a word of us vs they with no middle ground?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:52:10 No.15720609 Report

Quoted By: >>15720645

>>15720585
No I really don't I just realize that most In our age Demographic (again MOST)........MOST. Goddammit. Most motherfucker why don't you fucking get it. MOST just fucking go look at facebook. FOR FUCKS SAKE. Pay attention.....most. Which brings me to thought, guess why so many of my friends finally decided to get back into it? Guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 10:56:00 No.15720645 Report

Quoted By: >>15720726 >>15720748

>>15720609
For what I remember most people hat have bought the games for so much years have been okay with the new shit, facebook means nothing when almost none of them have bought anything pokémon related in years, and what is up with your friends? are you implying that your anecdotal evidence is prove of anything? truth is you can not prove that MOST people that have bought the games up to this day agree with you while the fact that new games have been sucsessfull until proves that MOST people are okay with changes and nothing else get that in your head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:03:36 No.15720726 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720645
Even sugimori says they have realized the fan outcry has been pointing in that direction. And yes I do think my anecdote evidence does support my position. I have yet to meet anyone i real life my age or older who thinks the new designs are by and large better. Most dislike them or are really critical of a lot of them. I'm probably the most sensible. I have a lot of friends from different experience with pokemon. I'm just saying, I've had a lot of them jump back in after years of staying away. Most hate a lot of the new designs. Facebook is good evidence of this. Not all of the them still play the games. Not all of them don't. One thing they all seem to have in common. If they started with gen 1 or 2, they almost unanimously have gripes about a lot of the new pokemon. I'm not even making the case for either side here. It's just really really easy to see there is a lot of negative sentiment from all over the online community and real life from long time fans of the series. I think it's safe to say all of us here are long time fans. We may not dislike every pokemon but we still buy the games for other reasons but I don't even understand why or how we could be arguing if there really is an outcry from most long time fans. I don't know anywhere where there isn't some GenWar bullshit festering.,

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:06:03 No.15720748 Report

Quoted By: >>15720829

>>15720645
>proves that MOST people are okay with changes
But it doesn't say what they're okay with.
Nintendo and GF have done surveys and have seen plenty of times how many people have voiced negative opinions towards the designs while praising features and improvements.

If the opinions were in favor of the newer direction they wouldn't have the man that oversees the designs publicly talking about going back to the old ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:14:09 No.15720829 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720748
>>15720748
Not just that but the article opens with him saying they have taken note of the outcry lately. I don't even think anon is really arguing whether there is a large outcry at this point but just trying to hold onto the direction pokemon has been. But you know what. Fuck it. Fuck the newgen antigenwun faggots here. You know why? Because they have their points, they have the right to their opinion but fuck them for being self centered faggots the likes of which rank on old pokemon day and night because they aren't new and because nostalgiafags exist. Fuck em. They take it over the edge and maybe the franchise would do to have a little balance that doesn't leave the old to whither and die. I think it's long overdue that they give the older fans some credence. I'm not asking for a full on return to black and white 2d bittune here but just some balance taken away from these crazy new shiny chasing short attention span faggots that would have had pokemon turn into an indistinguishable shonen mon throwaway mashup with no cohesiveness, and an anime style and plot that wouldn't differ from another franchise out there. So yeah fuck you guys at least until you learn to share the franchise like we've had to for the past couple of years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:14:46 No.15720836 Report

Quoted By: >>15720854 >>15720928

The samefag in this thread is hilarious, because the /vp/ I know isn't populated with genwunner faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:16:31 No.15720854 Report

Quoted By: >>15721005

>>15720836
Haha what? You do know Gen 2 wins all the polls here right? You were here when this became it's own board right? For all the GenWar threads inbetween new games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:23:27 No.15720928 Report

Quoted By: >>15721005

>>15720836
Than you don't know /vp/
I suggest lurking a little more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:25:20 No.15720948 Report

Quoted By: >>15720960 >>15720968

Relax he just probably means preventing shit like Keldeo from happening ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:26:25 No.15720960 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720948
But Keldeo is the best pony. Ponytafags be mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:27:06 No.15720968 Report

Quoted By:

>>15720948
That sad shit is that it aver happened to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:31:22 No.15721005 Report

Quoted By: >>15721069

>>15720928
>>15720854
Bitch, please.

I know for a fact Johto gets shat on all the time here. What the fuck poll is it going to win? If anything gen V has been praised on /vp/ for ages now. It's cute how you've come out of the woodwork thinking your relevant 'cos Sugimori's a faggot, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 11:36:39 No.15721069 Report

Quoted By:

>>15721005
>Sugimori's a faggot
You mad newgenfag?
I hope Unova gets retconned into a "Dream World" and is never seen again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2013 12:20:01 No.15721570 Report

Quoted By:

>>15719958
>we are going back to our roots

oh god lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Mar 2020 01:17:11 No.15721570,1 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>15721570,2

>>15720142
">bawww gunfags fuck off!"
Not in a zillion years pokefag, one day we'll have our own board called /vy/ yugioh

Anonymous

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>>15721570,1
Based
>>15720142
">soyboy tears"
Fuck off pokephile

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