>>15772077Can you name a single widely used STAB fire move that would OHKO heracross, but fail to even 2KO megacross? Because that would be the difference between actually good and "barely relevant as a difference because you only got 10 extra special defense you dense fuck stop trying to tank a fire blast"
>Non-scarf heracross is not fast enough to matter, You go from outspeeding base 80s to just not. That's a fucking tremendous difference.
>and scarf heracross is considerably weaker than megacross.Not after a single moxie boost.
After killing a single thing, it's just as strong (if not moreso) than Megacross while also being a fuckton faster.
>Band heracross can't avoid status and is lockedIf you run moxie instead of
>Guts heracross dies to anything it doesn't outspeed (which is a lot).If we're arguing power,
>You don't get a choice scarf AND a burn orb or choice band. You have to choose.Without a choice scarf you're still faster. Choice band is rarely used, but still makes you hit stronger and faster than mega heracross. With a burn orb, you still have no item, but you're immune to status, have more attack, more speed, people don't want to trick you, and you have more options than megacross because you don't have to 100% rely on your ability to even be on par.
Even if you're arguing defensive, leftovers+Sub Heracross runs a better bulk up set than Megacross despite the defenses because Megacross has barely "decent" defenses and can only sub up three times due to the mega stone and no recovery outside of rest.
And running just bulk up/rest/sleep talk even gives you a single move to attack.
