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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:11:36 No.15779180 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15779208

What should the EV distribution be on this guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:12:22 No.15779208 Report

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>>15779180
What I am really asking is if 248 HP 216 DEF and 44 SPE is will the standard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:13:05 No.15779225 Report

Quoted By: >>15779255 >>15779263 >>15779277 >>15779290 >>15779295 >>15779317 >>15779326 >>15779332 >>15782134

252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:13:50 No.15779255 Report

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>>15779225
..........

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:14:18 No.15779263 Report

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>>15779225
sounds about right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:14:22 No.15779264 Report

Quoted By: >>15779326 >>15779367

85/85/85/85/84/84

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:14:44 No.15779277 Report

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>>15779225
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:15:01 No.15779290 Report

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>>15779225
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:15:26 No.15779295 Report

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>>15779225
NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:16:20 No.15779317 Report

Quoted By: >>15786978

>>15779225
i think you mixed up togekiss and archeops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:16:41 No.15779326 Report

Quoted By: >>15779370

>>15779225
>>15779264
anyone who isn't retarded wanna contribute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:16:55 No.15779332 Report

Quoted By: >>15779375 >>15779549

>>15779225
LOL
Try 248 HP, -ATK, 216DEF, 44+SPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:17:56 No.15779367 Report

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>>15779264
No dude, that's fucked up, it's clearly
*84*/85/85/85/84/*85*
gotta get that speed up, ya dingus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:17:56 No.15779370 Report

Quoted By: >>15779402 >>15779516

>>15779326
>>15779326
Just invest it all in speed and special attack with a timid nature.

Guy needs to flinch out people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:18:09 No.15779375 Report

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>>15779332
This is what I've been building so far. I didn't think much would have changed from BW and that defensive togekiss would still be for the best...especially considering weakness to steel and shit, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:19:05 No.15779402 Report

Quoted By: >>15779441

>>15779370
Why not speed and hp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:20:18 No.15779441 Report

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>>15779402
Actually yeah that's much better for flinching people out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:22:25 No.15779504 Report

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248 HP 216 DEF 44 SPE

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:23:15 No.15779516 Report

Quoted By: >>15779540

>>15779370

This is a terrible idea and should not be given the slightest consideration.

Honestly it depends on his role. Paraflinch or Nasty Plot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:24:10 No.15779540 Report

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>>15779516
Yeah, anyone with even the severest autism already dismissed his idea as autistic....no need to say it out loud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:24:33 No.15779549 Report

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>>15779332
This. Nasty plot+Dazzling gleam/Air Slash=rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:28:25 No.15779663 Report

Quoted By: >>15779706

Best nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:29:23 No.15779680 Report

Quoted By: >>15779704 >>15779743 >>15779807 >>15779961

what about movesets? is it more important to run dazzling gleam, or to run air slash to do flinching?

or should I run both and not have nastyplot/twave/healbell/roost?

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:30:27 No.15779704 Report

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>>15779680

Togekiss can't learn Heal Bell in Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:30:30 No.15779706 Report

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>>15779663
Bold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:31:52 No.15779743 Report

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>>15779680
I've always loved mine that runs air slash aurasphere t wave and roost, it's attacks honestly depend on what the rest of your team can't hit. If they need dragon/fighting/dark coverage than dazzling gleam is good.

Hatch 2191 7639 5863

Hatch 2191 7639 5863 Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:34:59 No.15779807 Report

Quoted By: >>15779937

>>15779680
Air Slash
T-wave
Roost
Flamethrower/Aura Sphere/Dazzling Gleam
The last move depends a lot on what the rest of your team covers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:40:15 No.15779937 Report

Quoted By: >>15780113

>>15779807
....and get rid of nastyplot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:40:58 No.15779961 Report

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>>15779680
Thunder Wave
Air Slash
???????
???????

Doesn't really matter after that.

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:43:43 No.15780034 Report

Quoted By: >>15780124 >>15780303

I love how so many people use the Paraflinch Togekiss without ever even realizing how fucking deadly Nasty Plot Togekiss is.
He can 2HKO almost everything in OU with just one use of Nasty Plot, and use his incredible bulk to get time to set up in almost any situation. The best part is almost no one ever sees it coming, because 99% of people are expecting Paraflinch Kiss.

Hatch 2191 7639 5863

Hatch 2191 7639 5863 Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:45:39 No.15780113 Report

Quoted By: >>15780158

>>15779937
If you want to run a sweepish togekiss it's a different moveset and ev spread entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:45:56 No.15780124 Report

Quoted By: >>15780186

>>15780034
Exactly, which is why I need to really, REALLY be convinced to part with nastyplot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:46:59 No.15780158 Report

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>>15780113
You might be retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:48:05 No.15780186 Report

Quoted By: >>15780232 >>15780238

>>15780124
Just don't

Air slash/Nasty plot/Roost/Heal Bell is what I run, and it works wonders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:48:25 No.15780201 Report

Quoted By: >>15780277

Correct Moveset:

T-Wave
Air Slash
Confuse Ray
Attract

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:49:25 No.15780232 Report

Quoted By: >>15780295

>>15780186
Heal Bell kiss isn't in gen6

What game are you playing?

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:49:34 No.15780238 Report

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>>15780186

How are you getting Heal Bell on Togekiss in Gen 6? Serebii says its impossible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:50:53 No.15780277 Report

Quoted By: >>15780377

>>15780201
replace attract

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:51:20 No.15780295 Report

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>>15780232
Pokebank OU on showdown. Sorry, didn't notice. Use a coverage move or T-Wave then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:51:41 No.15780303 Report

Quoted By: >>15780388

>>15780034
It all depends on what you play with. I've considered him but paraflinch togekiss works better with what I've built my team around. So everyone doesn't ignore it, we just all have different to things to choose from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:53:42 No.15780377 Report

Quoted By: >>15780424

>>15780277
no.
Attract is devastating.

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:54:03 No.15780388 Report

Quoted By: >>15780476

>>15780303

That is very true. He works great on my team because I usually run Scizor, Gliscor and Togekiss. Togekiss replaced Snorlax as a Sp. wall and fulfills the role of Sp.Atk while doing it.

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:55:07 No.15780424 Report

Quoted By: >>15780446 >>15780523

>>15780377

Does Confuse stack with attract?
Could you even imagine the frustration?

>chance to be paralyzed
>chance to hit itself
>chance to not attack at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:55:55 No.15780446 Report

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>>15780424
>60% chance to flinch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:57:04 No.15780472 Report

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>People still using paraflinch Togekiss
>20 fucking 13
It's hilarious, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:57:08 No.15780476 Report

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>>15780388
>gliscor and togekiss together
Mah nigga, that destruction

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 03:58:22 No.15780523 Report

Quoted By: >>15780608

>>15780424
Paralysis + Confusion + Attract + Flinch Togekiss gets used in Showderp sometimes. The problem is that it's walled by any electric type that's the same gender or genderless.

Unless you're using body slam. Then it's Ghost.

Keithin [3067-5015-2315]

Keithin [3067-5015-2315] Sun 10 Nov 2013 04:01:17 No.15780608 Report

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>>15780523

Particularly Zapdos. But Togekiss can't efficiently work around Zapdos anyway.
I don't run Paraflinch Kiss anyway, just a funny thought. I can definitley see getting the "Other player has disconnected" message while running that set a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 04:54:01 No.15782134 Report

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>>15779225
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 08:25:17 No.15786978 Report

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>>15779317
You want the 4 in defense on Archeops, not HP.
That way it can switch into rocks twice without activating defeatist.

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