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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:19:38 No.15788999 View View Reply Original Report

So you can't copycat roar in gen VI. Prankster Riolu is now useless as a phaser. Any other gimmicks/pokes rendered useless this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:21:13 No.15789013 Report

Quoted By: >>15789129

Assist can no longer call two turn invulnerability moves.

RIP Spooky Boogie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:23:12 No.15789047 Report

Quoted By: >>15789137

>>15788999
Aww can anyone else confirm this? Prankster Riolu @focus sash is my favorite troll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:26:18 No.15789089 Report

Quoted By: >>15789112 >>15789136 >>15789161

Did they fix Level 1 facade aron with heal bell?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:28:27 No.15789112 Report

Quoted By: >>15789120

>>15789089
That's not broken though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:29:14 No.15789120 Report

Quoted By: >>15789126 >>15789129

>>15789112
> implying Spookie Boogie and Prankster Riolu are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:30:04 No.15789126 Report

Quoted By: >>15789147

>>15789120
Broken as in "not functioning properly".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:30:08 No.15789129 Report

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>>15789013
>>15789120
WHAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:31:00 No.15789136 Report

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>>15789089
Endeavor with Shell Bell*
And it's still very much real. Sand nerf hurt it's effectiveness though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:31:02 No.15789137 Report

Quoted By: >>15789177 >>15789234

>>15789047
It certainly doesn't work on Showdown, and AFAIK all changes on Showdown are directly because of well-recorded changes in-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:31:47 No.15789147 Report

Quoted By: >>15789178

>>15789126
But none of the stuff they "fixed" was functioning improperly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:32:52 No.15789161 Report

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>>15789089
Facade and Heal Bell? Do you mean Endeavor and Shell Bell?

That wasn't really as broken as Divecats/Riolu though, and it was just made up from several strategies put together instead of one seemingly broken strategy that would have no other usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:33:48 No.15789177 Report

Quoted By: >>15789202

>>15789137
Honestly this is probably the worst thing about this Gen. Which speaks volumes on how good it is when my biggest complaint is the removal of a troll gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:33:51 No.15789178 Report

Quoted By: >>15789213

>>15789147
Oh please. You call having a move jump up 6 priority tiers "functioning properly?"

You call ignoring a restriction on protection moves "functioning properly?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:34:52 No.15789202 Report

Quoted By: >>15789237 >>15789250

>>15789177
Prankster Riolu was more than trolling, it was actually pretty fucking dangerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:35:28 No.15789213 Report

Quoted By: >>15789233 >>15789249

>>15789178
So your problem is with Prankster not with Riolu/roar/copycat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:36:36 No.15789233 Report

Quoted By: >>15789252

>>15789213
Which is why they fixed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:36:40 No.15789234 Report

Quoted By: >>15789258

>>15789137
But on Showdown neither works switching out with ghost types against trapping abilities/moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:36:53 No.15789237 Report

Quoted By: >>15789248

>>15789202

If you're a complete scrub who carries no priority moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:37:37 No.15789248 Report

Quoted By: >>15789277

>>15789237
Or if they'd taken out your mons with Priority moves already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:37:36 No.15789249 Report

Quoted By: >>15789277

>>15789213
Prankster usually makes neutral priority moves +1, roar is supposed to be -6 but prankster still boosts that to +1.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:37:41 No.15789250 Report

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>>15789202
>protect
>Riolu dies next turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:37:56 No.15789252 Report

Quoted By: >>15789626

>>15789233
Sad when they have to "fix" the game because people are too stupid to get gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:38:40 No.15789258 Report

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>>15789234
Your grammar is atrocious but if you means "but on Showdown you can't switch out ghost types against trapping abilities/moves" then that doesn't contradict what I said; all the changes they have made to Showdown have been proven to be in the game, that doesn't mean all that has been proven to be in the game has been changed on Showdown yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:39:38 No.15789277 Report

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>>15789248
Yeah, all strategies become dangerous when they are in perfect conditions

>>15789249
Don't recall nuetral ever being specified in game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:45:15 No.15789331 Report

Quoted By: >>15789376

Well considering prankster only works on roar because you're actually using copycat, it seems pretty clear it's an unintended result of prankster.

Sucks about Spookie Boogie though, that even required you to build your whole team around it and if your opponent had even one counter you more or less lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:45:38 No.15789336 Report

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ITT:
people happy it's easier to use defunct teams with less coverage your ntsit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:49:51 No.15789376 Report

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>>15789331
Unintended? Sure. Needed to be fixed? I don't see how

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:54:20 No.15789431 Report

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> spend time removing fun quirks from the game ala prankster copy cat roar
> completely leave double team alone
Gamefreak in charge of priorities
lol see what I did there? Prankster? Priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 11:55:35 No.15789450 Report

Quoted By: >>15789569

Spooky boogie may be dead, but spinny boogie is alive and well
for reference, it should still work:
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-20651579

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 12:05:27 No.15789569 Report

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>>15789450
do you have a team export?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 12:10:53 No.15789626 Report

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>>15789252
>too stupid to get gud
it was not about getting gud, it was about prankster not working as intended It was supposed to give +1 priority to a move. Roar having -6, it should have been left at -5, but the game instead brrought it to 0 and THEN applied prankster for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2013 12:20:30 No.15789733 Report

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Unless I keep fucking it up, the amusing combination of swords dance, baton pass, agility, and a focus sash on shedinja is falling apart as I can't get baton pass on it anymore..

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