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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:39:33 No.15826217 View View Reply Original Report

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>Talonflame used Flare Blitz!
>It's super effective! The opposing Ferrothorn lost 40% of its health!
>Talonflame is damaged by recoil!
>Talonflame is hurt by the opposing Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs!
>Talonflame is hurt by the opposing Ferrothorn's Rocky Helmet!
>Talonflame lost some of its HP!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:40:44 No.15826240 Report

Quoted By: >>15826278

If you use Talonflame you deserve everything you get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:40:49 No.15826243 Report

Quoted By:

>on top of rocks

le suicide bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:41:43 No.15826264 Report

Quoted By: >>15826300

Domt forget the fucking l3ech seed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:42:14 No.15826278 Report

Quoted By: >>15826320 >>15828326

>>15826240

But it's an amazing pokemon that can decide entire battles and forces out more pokemon than any other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:43:16 No.15826298 Report

Quoted By: >>15826324

Seriously?

OU tiers are gonna be full of pokemon that don't deserve to be there it seems.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:43:22 No.15826300 Report

Quoted By: >>15826313 >>15826330 >>15826365 >>15826802

>>15826264
>ferrothorn
>surviving flare blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:44:09 No.15826313 Report

Quoted By: >>15826344 >>15826345

>>15826300
>le 4x weakness means it dies in one hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:44:14 No.15826317 Report

Quoted By: >>15826341 >>15826342 >>15826345

It only took fucking 40%?
What the hell?

are you not holding Life Orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:44:21 No.15826320 Report

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>>15826278
>40% health
>on a quad weakness pokemon

I swear to god if you're a Greninjafag I am gonna have so much desire to hurt you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:44:21 No.15826322 Report

Quoted By: >>15826361 >>15826423

>Life Orb on suicidebird

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:44:27 No.15826324 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826298

Talonflame is very much OU material.

Gen 6 Talonflame > gen 5 Scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:44:54 No.15826330 Report

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>>15826300
its bulky enough to survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:45:24 No.15826341 Report

Quoted By: >>15826367

>>15826317
that would not have killed it either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:45:27 No.15826342 Report

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>>15826317
>Talonflame lost some of its HP!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:45:30 No.15826344 Report

Quoted By: >>15826379

>>15826313
>x4 weak
>Is also a 120bp move
>Also has a STAB bonus
>Now it's 180

Yeah sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:45:32 No.15826345 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826313

Yes, yes it is. Only in rain does it stand a chance of not getting one shotted.

>>15826317

It died from the move. It was already low health.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:46:15 No.15826359 Report

Quoted By: >>15826387 >>15826391 >>15826404

252+ Atk Reckless (custom) Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 48+ Def Ferrothorn: 348-412 (98.86 - 117.04%) -- 93.75% chance to OHKO

OP is retarded.

Sam 4210-5281-1952 [Bibarel, Floatzel, Frogadier]

Sam 4210-5281-1952 [Bibarel, Floatzel, Frogadier] Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:46:21 No.15826361 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826322
A Brave Bird for a Brave Man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:46:34 No.15826365 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826300
In rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:46:40 No.15826367 Report

Quoted By: >>15826404

>>15826341

Are you retarded?

Outside rain, ferrothorn NEVER survives flare blitz from anything, especially not talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:47:14 No.15826379 Report

Quoted By: >>15826427 >>15826429

>>15826344
>81 base attack
>against 131 base defense

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:47:37 No.15826387 Report

Quoted By: >>15826423 >>15826454

>>15826359
where is this calculator that people keep using anyway?

Also,
>48+ def Ferrothorn

I think you're the faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:47:43 No.15826391 Report

Quoted By: >>15826423

>>15826359

It was already low heath and fainted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:48:47 No.15826404 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826367

This post proves your retardation as well as the posters. Assuming the calculator they are using isn't complete horseshit.
>>15826359

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:49:43 No.15826423 Report

Quoted By: >>15826455

>>15826322
>not running Life Orb

>>15826387
I input the standard Ferrothorn set. It's a guaranteed OHKO even if its running 252 Def with Life Orb.

>>15826391
my bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:49:50 No.15826427 Report

Quoted By: >>15826490

>>15826379
LOOK AT ME I'M FULL OF FUCKING SHIT

EVEN IN THE RAIN WITH A +DEF NATURE FULLY INVESTED HP AND DEF FERROTHORN GETS RICKITY FUCKING REKT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:50:12 No.15826429 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826379

Stats say you're retarded.

Next thing you're going to say Tyranitar survives Infernape's Close Combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:51:07 No.15826447 Report

Quoted By: >>15826467

what if OP's talonflame wasn't EV trained

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:51:44 No.15826454 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826387
>>48+ def Ferrothorn

Do you not pump your Ferrothorn with SpD EVs so that you can take hits from both sides?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:51:49 No.15826455 Report

Quoted By: >>15826507

>>15826423
>With Life orb

Theres your problem.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:52:41 No.15826467 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826447
HMMMM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:53:06 No.15826475 Report

Quoted By: >>15826506

OP HERE

Are you people stupid?

Thread wasn't about talonflame's strength, which is fine.

It was about how badly it got rekt for attacking ferrothorn. The residual damage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:53:57 No.15826490 Report

Quoted By: >>15826539 >>15826544

>>15826427
>Life Orb
>still doesn't KO

You people are hilarious. Greninja and Talonflame are such tryhard wanabes for OU.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:54:24 No.15826498 Report

Quoted By: >>15826584

OK guys I figured out what the fucking OP did wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:54:31 No.15826506 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826475
You must be new here.

Seeing how you am powerfully unfamiliar wid De Rail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:54:32 No.15826507 Report

Quoted By: >>15826577

>>15826455
Even without Life Orb, Ferrothorn is OHKOd provided it's running the standard 48 Def build.
252 Def is a 12% chance at OHKOing without entry hazards.

also
>Life Orb on 81 base Attack
>bad
Just Roost off the residual damage. You need Talonflame to hit hard as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:55:24 No.15826539 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826490
>What is Rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:55:33 No.15826544 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826490
>what is rain

Onix tanks hydro pumps in the sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:56:42 No.15826577 Report

Quoted By: >>15826608 >>15826631

>>15826507
so run fucking choice band and don't be retarded.

You could also just run Swords dance and give it something that will help it live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:57:09 No.15826584 Report

Quoted By: >>15826654

>>15826498
>can't into reading the thread

le stats with bs untrained garbage to get lowest possible output...put it rain XD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:58:26 No.15826608 Report

Quoted By: >>15826677

>>15826577
>choice items
>in the gen of priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:59:03 No.15826631 Report

Quoted By: >>15826684 >>15827484

>>15826577
I do run Swords Dance. And Roost.

>Choice Band
What? Have you seen this thing's movepool? It's shallow as fuck, dude. What other two moves besides Flare Blitz and Brave Bird would you be running? Fucking Aerial Ace?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 08:59:44 No.15826648 Report

Quoted By:

>greninja
>talonflame
>aegisteel
thanks for the +10

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:00:10 No.15826654 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826584
Hey, it's not our fault you're a fucking shit breathing retard OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:01:34 No.15826677 Report

Quoted By: >>15826701 >>15826712 >>15828362

>>15826608
>priority moves
>choice band is basically a free swords dance

I don't see why you would think this is bad unless you're a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:01:46 No.15826684 Report

Quoted By: >>15826696 >>15826712

>>15826631
>hat other two moves besides Flare Blitz and Brave Bird would you be running? Fucking Aerial Ace?

Wasn't there an acrobatics set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:01:57 No.15826686 Report

Quoted By: >>15826697 >>15826703

I swear, people will do anything to make Talonflame look like the shittiest Pokémon this gen. Do you really hate it that much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:02:42 No.15826696 Report

Quoted By: >>15826751

>>15826684
There is no Flying Gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:02:41 No.15826697 Report

Quoted By: >>15826717 >>15826828

>>15826686
But it is shit.

If it doesn't OHKO it dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:02:51 No.15826701 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826677
>locked into BB
>steel

All you need is SD because you can cause infinite switches. Choice band is pure retardation. Life orb is enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:02:53 No.15826703 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826686
Such is life for OU candidates

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:03:37 No.15826712 Report

Quoted By: >>15826729

>>15826677
Choice Band on Talonflame is shit.

>>15826684
Gems were nerfed so you're better off with Life Orb +Brave Bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:04:10 No.15826717 Report

Quoted By: >>15826799

>>15826697
>regional bird
>3rd in usage
>best priority in the game
>shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:04:52 No.15826729 Report

Quoted By: >>15826749

>>15826712
Gems where not nerfed, they are still exactly the same. The only difference is we don't have access to any of them other than Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:06:20 No.15826749 Report

Quoted By: >>15826775

>>15826729
People tested the Normal Gems and they lowered the boosts from 50% to 30%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:06:37 No.15826751 Report

Quoted By: >>15826762 >>15826768 >>15826873

>>15826696
Oh right. Come Pokebank I bet there will be.

Also if you're going to use SD I really think Lefties would be preferred. The combination of residual damage from +2 BB, FB, LO, and potentially Rocks is really going to force you to do a lot more roosting than usual, which means less attacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:07:09 No.15826762 Report

Quoted By: >>15826790

>>15826751
Cant transfer items

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:07:31 No.15826768 Report

Quoted By: >>15826790

>>15826751
>Oh right. Come Pokebank I bet there will be.

Can't transfer items through bank m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:07:49 No.15826775 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826749
It's useless now, unless you're running unburden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:09:05 No.15826790 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826762
>>15826768
Well what I mean is that when Pokebank is released, I bet there is also going to be some other stuff made available to fully complete the games, including missing items like the gems.

And it'll only cost $2.99 on Nintendo EShop!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:09:59 No.15826799 Report

Quoted By: >>15826835

>>15826717
>usage means is good

Thats why when people bring a random UU that is actually good into OU people freak out and get wrecked.

The only reason it gets overused its because its a zerg pokemon, you know just like how 95% of OU is

Usage does not make a pokemon good. If that were the case then Greninja and Weavile would be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:10:09 No.15826802 Report

Quoted By: >>15826841

>>15826300
>physical wall cannot survive a SE physical attack
Oh you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:11:26 No.15826828 Report

Quoted By: >>15826858

>>15826697
It still forces you to have something that can tank it and preferably OHKO it back.

I've personally sweeped entire teams of 6 with my Talonflame.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:12:06 No.15826835 Report

Quoted By: >>15826849

>>15826799
>trying to downplay THREE in usage

Wray 3497-0562-6817 (Combee/Masquerain/Heracross)

Wray 3497-0562-6817 (Combee/Masquerain/Heracross) Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:12:19 No.15826841 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826802
>Physical wall can survive a stab 4x weakness
Oh you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:12:35 No.15826849 Report

Quoted By: >>15826872

>>15826835
>what is a shiny new toy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:13:04 No.15826855 Report

Quoted By: >>15826909

>not using itemless acrobatics Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:13:11 No.15826858 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826828

Talonflame takes out at least one pokemon every match and usually more than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:14:19 No.15826872 Report

Quoted By: >>15826915

>>15826849

What is your argument even? If you think talonflame is ever leaving OU or touching UU, you're deluded as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:14:21 No.15826873 Report

Quoted By: >>15827181

>>15826751
go with Lefties
>OHKOs become 2HKOs
>possibly take damage from opponent because it's still alive
>have to do additional BB/FBs to nab that KO, more recoil
>ultimately end up Roosting

go with Life Orb
>OHKOs stay OHKOs
>Life Orb recoil alongside BB/FB starts to stack up
>ultimately end up Roosting

Both situations are very similar, but Life Orb SECURES those OHKOs, which is more important in the end. It won't matter as much if Talonflame ends up dead in the end so long as it gets its job getting one or two KOs done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:16:08 No.15826909 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826855
enjoy your Flare Blitz not OHKOing Ferrothorn nerd

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:16:32 No.15826915 Report

Quoted By: >>15826943

>>15826872
Talonflame might stay in OU, because compared to Greninja, its actually marginally safe there. Greninja is going straight to UU or below.

But its definetely not Aegislash tier of usefulness in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:17:31 No.15826933 Report

Quoted By: >>15826947 >>15827064

how do i kill the naruto frog

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:18:01 No.15826943 Report

Quoted By: >>15826994

>>15826915

Aigislash is shit compared to talonflame in terms of usefulness. Are you insane? That sword is the most predictable and easily countered pokemon there is, especially for its usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:18:23 No.15826947 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826933
priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:21:20 No.15826994 Report

Quoted By: >>15827055 >>15827069

>>15826943
>3 strategies
>predictable

Yeah if you're playing with retards.

Aegislash is super safe, especially if you run it with weakness policy.

Swords Dance with weakness policy is pretty much a guaranteed 4x boost in just one turn setup, which aegislash can do thanks to its defenses. After that it can OHKO most things with shadow sneak.

Don't even begin to bring the argument that Talonflame can kill it, because we're not discussing that here, we're discussing their usefulness within the OU tier. Talonflame is a suicide bird while Aegislash can potentially sweep an entire team without ever having to use King's shield.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:22:26 No.15827014 Report

Quoted By: >>15827053

>Heracross has Mega Evolved into Mega Heracross!
>Goodra used Flamethrower!
>It's super effective! The opposing Heracross lost 49% of its health!
>The opposing Heracross was burned!
>The opposing Heracross used Arm Thrust!
>Goodra lost 8.4% of its health!
>The opposing Heracross's Gooey lowered its Speed!
>Goodra lost 8.7% of its health!
>The opposing Heracross's Gooey lowered its Speed!
>Goodra lost 7.5% of its health!
>The opposing Heracross's Gooey lowered its Speed!
>Goodra lost 8.4% of its health!
>The opposing Heracross's Gooey lowered its Speed!
>Goodra lost 9.3% of its health!
>The opposing Heracross's Gooey lowered its Speed!
>Hit 5 time(s)!
>The opposing Heracross was hurt by it burn!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:24:35 No.15827053 Report

Quoted By: >>15827104

>>15827014
I imagine that was an auto ragequit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:24:38 No.15827055 Report

Quoted By: >>15827069

>>15826994
Fucking this
Aegislash can sweep whole teams from low red HP, if and only if it is played smartly.
The kids on battlespot don't know how to use it.

Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover, lapras)

Desudro 3480-2564-4719 (beartic, snover, lapras) Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:25:24 No.15827064 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826933
ferro
>random scrub acrobatics'ing my ferrothron
>iron barbs
>rocky helmet
>sandstorm
>toxic spikes
>3% acro hits

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:25:40 No.15827069 Report

Quoted By: >>15827091

>>15827055
>>15826994
le earthquake face

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:27:04 No.15827091 Report

Quoted By: >>15827114

>>15827069
>he still thinks I'm going to use Kings shield

I am starting to think I should side with the smogonfags, at least they know what they are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:28:00 No.15827104 Report

Quoted By: >>15827129

>>15827053
Either that or falling off the chair laughing.

I have one rule with battles: Expect to lose hilariously at least 50% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:28:30 No.15827114 Report

Quoted By: >>15827130

>>15827091
>he thinks it matters whether he uses king's shield or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:29:27 No.15827129 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827104
I wish I could see shit that funny where I only have myself to blame.
But it's usually losing my pivot to a OHKO move, or a bullshit miss/critical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:29:32 No.15827130 Report

Quoted By: >>15827145

>>15827114
>let me setup swords dance
>hit me with earthquake because LOL THAT IS TOTALLY GONNA OHKO
>weakness policy
>Shadow Sneak

What response do you have now? How is your normal type gonna kill Aegislash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:30:52 No.15827145 Report

Quoted By: >>15827184 >>15827197 >>15827210

>>15827130
>normal types cannot carry the ubiquitous earthquake
>what is Kangaskhan

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:33:31 No.15827181 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826873
This. I never expect Talonflame to survive in battle, I just use him as a kamikaze bird. And even when untrained (the only one I've used is the first I caught, since I've yet to breed a good one), it almost guarantees one OHKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:33:42 No.15827184 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827145
dat rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:34:27 No.15827197 Report

Quoted By: >>15827222 >>15827241 >>15827523

>>15827145
>Opponent sends out Kangaskhan
>Switch to Aegislash
>The opposing's Kangaskhan's Kangaskhanite is reacting to Retard's Mega Ring! Kangaskhan has Mega Evolved into Mega Kangaskhan!
>The opposing Mega Kangaskhan used Power-up Punch!
>It doesn't affect Aegislash...
>The opposing Mega Kangaskhan used Earthquake!
>It's super effective!
>Aegislash's Weakness Policy sharply raised its Attack!
>Aegislash used Sacred Sword!
>It's super effective!
>The opposing Mega Kangaskhan fainted!

EVERY time, it's actually pretty funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:34:56 No.15827210 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827145

Seriously, what the fuck can it do to kanga aside from getting sucker punched or earthquaked?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:35:34 No.15827222 Report

Quoted By: >>15827239

>>15827197
OR you play against actually good enemies who take a minute to look at your team in the preview.
But nah, that'd be too logical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:36:44 No.15827239 Report

Quoted By: >>15827253 >>15827256

>>15827222
Tell the idiots I'm mowing down, not me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:36:49 No.15827241 Report

Quoted By: >>15827274

>>15827197

How does that account for kanga easily switching into aegislash?

GG spooky sword

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:38:11 No.15827253 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827239
>he thinks anyone has problems with aegislash

hahhahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:38:21 No.15827256 Report

Quoted By: >>15827338

>>15827239
Yes, you're playing idiots. Does that mean your strategy is good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:39:48 No.15827274 Report

Quoted By: >>15827317 >>15827342 >>15827401

>>15827241
Ok, assuming the Aegislash user was stupid/unfortunate enough to Shadow Sneak against a Kangaskhan switch-in, King's Shield the EQ/Sucker Punch, tank the next hit, Sacred Sword.
He is not a difficult guy to figure out, and far from uncounterable, but why do you all insist that Kangaskhan can do it when it really can't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:42:36 No.15827317 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827274

You're assuming the user is retarded.

You king shield the obvious EQ and then are left wide fucking open.

What are you going to do? Tricks between SD and king's shield to stall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:43:49 No.15827338 Report

Quoted By: >>15827370

>>15827256
Means it's good enough.
I suggest all of you "if you even think about aegislash you're a stupid scrub who should drink bleach" people go crack open a dictionary and find the word "adapt".
I'll put my Aegislash away when he doesn't slaughter fucking everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:44:03 No.15827342 Report

Quoted By: >>15827367 >>15827371 >>15827431

>>15827274
He tanks the next hit and then gets sucker punched to death when he wants to attack.
This is all related to the user's level of braindead. Also remember, king's shield does squat against eq/sp. Unboosted sacred sword won't OHKO the kangaroo, so the only choice left is carrying weakness policy, which requires him to take an EQ. The only option left is death. Or boosting before kanga switches in. Or having set up all the hazards, or .... see where I'm getting at? Discussing this is retarded, because there's so many factors going into what will happen in the matchup.
The only thing you can say for sure is that unboosted kanga WILL destroy an unboosted Aegislash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:45:38 No.15827367 Report

Quoted By: >>15827401

>>15827342
See at least YOU get it.
The idea, however, is that if you have an unboosted Aegislash at any time other than its first use you are using Aegislash incorrectly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:45:44 No.15827370 Report

Quoted By: >>15827401

>>15827338
Yeah, good enough to beat idiots. That's like saying im the BEST at tennis when my opponent is in a wheelchair. Are you playing on battle spot by any chance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:45:46 No.15827371 Report

Quoted By: >>15827401 >>15827542

>>15827342

Exactly. This guy cannot understand this. He thinks that dumbass sword is invincible when it's EASILY worked around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:48:17 No.15827401 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827370
Yes I am.

>>15827371
Of course I get it, because
>>15827367
is also me, and >>15827274
is me as well.
Aegislash is easy to counter if you know what you're doing but the average schmoe doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:50:10 No.15827431 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827342
actually, Sucker Punch would activate Weakness Policy too, you know? With Steel not resisting Dark type anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:54:20 No.15827484 Report

Quoted By: >>15827529

>>15826631
Steel Wing
For rock types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:57:10 No.15827523 Report

Quoted By: >>15827540

>>15827197
>team preview shows a ghost pokemon
>BETTER SPAM FIGHTING TYPE MOVES YES SIRRIE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:57:34 No.15827529 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827484
>Steel Wing
>on 81 base Attack
>doing shit to rock types, which generally have high defense

lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:58:35 No.15827540 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827523
>team preview showed a ghost pokemon
>fighting a Tyranitar
>well he did have a ghost so I'll let this one go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 09:58:40 No.15827542 Report

Quoted By:

>>15827371
Actually, just bs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:38:18 No.15828055 Report

Quoted By: >>15828087 >>15828142

>Klefki and Aegislash users (aka "I am a meta babby that relies on luck because I suck dick")
>put Taunt Gliscor on team
>tears overflow out of my computer screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:40:56 No.15828087 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828055
>letting klefki swag all over you

Spark 1418 - 7429 - 9262

Spark 1418 - 7429 - 9262 Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:41:13 No.15828089 Report

Quoted By: >>15828110 >>15828115 >>15828154 >>15828204 >>15828260

>Talonflame did something!
>The other pokémon doesn't go KO!
>The other pokémon did something!
>Talonflame is KO!

Every Talonflame battle ever. You may counter Blaziken and Aegislash but that's all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:42:32 No.15828110 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828089
Banded Talonflame OHKOs lots of stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:42:54 No.15828115 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828089

Are you serious right now?

Literally no fighting, bug or grass types stay in on talonflame.

After a single SD? Nothing outside rocks stay in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:45:14 No.15828142 Report

Quoted By: >>15828192

>>15828055
Aegislash literally cannot break a gliscor even with +6 boost.
Gliscor will just kill it in 2 uninvested earthquakes. You don't even need the taunt. It's hilarious

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:45:49 No.15828154 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828089
>talking directly out your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:46:41 No.15828168 Report

Quoted By: >>15828201

This thread proves how incompetent the majority of /vp/ is at competitive

It's hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:47:15 No.15828173 Report

Quoted By:

>tfw no priority rock move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:49:08 No.15828192 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828142
citations

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:50:22 No.15828201 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828168
Say that to my face on showdown, coward.

Josh [4313-1174-8062] [Combee-Volbeat-Venomoth]

Josh [4313-1174-8062] [Combee-Volbeat-Venomoth] Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:50:28 No.15828204 Report

Quoted By: >>15828211 >>15828244

>>15828089
>have sticky web galvantula as lead
>Talonflame used Brave Bird!
>Galvantula hung on its Focus Sash!
>Galvantula used Thunder!
>Talonflame fainted!
He's not that hard to counter as long as you have a Sturdy/Sash pokemon on your team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:51:27 No.15828211 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828204
Honestly, I just use Ambipom
I one shot them with fakeout

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:51:53 No.15828219 Report

Quoted By:

>switch in whimsicott after they send out aegislash
>Whimsicott used encore!
>they think they'll get free boosts so they don't switch out
>seed them
>whimsicott's encore ended
>whimsicott used encore!
>laugh as they struggle helplessly with a 4x attack boost, their health slowly draining

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:53:44 No.15828244 Report

Quoted By: >>15828264 >>15828287

>>15828204

Now your retarded spider will never get its sticky web off, the entire point it has a slot. You sure won that exchange.

>needing a sash to counter a poke

hahahah

...

hhahahha

Mellow

Mellow Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:55:18 No.15828260 Report

Quoted By: >>15828283 >>15828307

>>15828089
>in shit rating
>someone switches Talonflame in on my M-Mawile
>sucker punch
It's so funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:55:35 No.15828264 Report

Quoted By: >>15828283 >>15828335

>>15828244
don't you have school in a few hours?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:57:02 No.15828283 Report

Quoted By: >>15828319

>>15828260
>spam sucker punch
>SD boosts
>roost
>tailwind
>switch
>laugh in your face

>>15828264
>ad hominem from buttmad retard

Sain 0061-0080-0976 (crabby quagsire and Frogadier)

Sain 0061-0080-0976 (crabby quagsire and Frogadier) Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:57:04 No.15828287 Report

Quoted By: >>15828305 >>15828312

>>15828244
And then it uses sticky web on the next pokemon. Since you know, the Talonflame died and the spider still has 1hp.

wow, you're dumb,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:58:20 No.15828305 Report

Quoted By: >>15828331

>>15828287
Most competent players will have some form of priority.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:58:33 No.15828307 Report

Quoted By: >>15828350

>>15828260
>M-Mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:58:50 No.15828312 Report

Quoted By: >>15828331

>>15828287

Are you retarded?

Am I not going to switch a priority user?

Am I not going to goinng to switch a faster poke>?

Listen, just because you beat some retards, does not mean you are not horrible yourself.

You will never get your shit off against any competent player. Period.

Mellow

Mellow Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:59:13 No.15828319 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828283
I said I was in shit rating, they don't even know M-Mawile's movesets

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:59:31 No.15828326 Report

Quoted By:

>>15826278
It's overused as fuck pokemon along with Greninja and Aegislash.

It's like people don't know how to build teams by themselves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 10:59:51 No.15828331 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828312
>>15828305
rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:00:02 No.15828335 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828264
>im mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:00:03 No.15828336 Report

Quoted By: >>15828355

>not using a full final gambit team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:00:48 No.15828346 Report

Quoted By: >>15828367

>GOD AEGISLASH IS SO SHITTY IT ONLY DOES ONE THING
>GOD TALONFLAME IS FUCKING AWFUL ONLY BASE 80 ATTACK GET FUCKED
>WOW GRENINJA IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE 100 SPECIAL ATTACK WHO CARES ABOUT PROTEAN, RU AT BEST
/vp/ does not know how to competitive and these constant threads are proof

Mellow

Mellow Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:01:19 No.15828350 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828307
What's your problem with M-Mawile?

I mostly use it because Mawile is so goddamn cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:01:39 No.15828355 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828336
>Not using Lead Sandstorm Shedinja with Safety Goggles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:02:17 No.15828362 Report

Quoted By: >>15828378

>>15826677
>Choice Band
>basically a free a Sword Dance

confirmed retard

Choice Band is 1.5x, SD is 2x. Big fucking difference and that's not even considering the fact that you're not locked in to one move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:02:43 No.15828367 Report

Quoted By: >>15828389 >>15828410

>>15828346
Greninja is a non-issue most games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:03:33 No.15828378 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828362
Yeah, I mean, why should anyone use Choice Bands, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:04:28 No.15828389 Report

Quoted By: >>15828441 >>15828451

>>15828367
ice beam
u turn
shadow sneak
water shuriken

with that speed and life orb?

He's useful. Very very useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:05:33 No.15828410 Report

Quoted By: >>15828466 >>15828483

>>15828367
I'm not saying Greninja is some huge threat (though Protean is hype shit), but saying that it's shit is deluding yourself. The thing is OU, or a top tier UU at the very least. People seriously underestimate its potential just because they want to pretend they're not involved with people riding its hype train (which is partly justified, but it is definitely being made out to be much better than it actually is to be fair)

Can't wait for Z when Mega Mew gets Protean

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:07:42 No.15828441 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828389
He dies to neutral damage and he has very few safe switch-ins.
He's also ripped apart by rotom-w.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:08:43 No.15828451 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828389
It still tends to die in one neutral hit because shit defenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:09:46 No.15828466 Report

Quoted By: >>15828483

>>15828410
>protean mew
Such an unstoppable rape machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 11:11:28 No.15828483 Report

Quoted By:

>>15828466
>>15828410
>Mega Mew
>+20 to all stats
>Protean
Hold me

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